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September 3, 2009 - Thursday 
In all the debate going on about Health Care Reform, I figured rather than shout down those whose only argument is that they can yell louder and talk over any opposing point of view, I'd give it a more personal treatment on why I personally support HCR.

I figure this breaks down into three major parts; spiritual, practical and self serving. To do it properly, we're going to focus on one of these components per blog, because we have a lot of ground to cover.

We're going to start this blog-o-rama with the most important one. No matter my own circumstances or even the practicality of it, the main reason I support health care reform is that it is a moral imperative to me and everything that I believe.

In other words, if I were personally able to afford health insurance or was perfectly healthy and didn't need insurance, my faith demands that I fight this fight for those who aren't as fortunate.

It's as simple as that.

I am a Christian, and was raised in the Christian faith from the womb. The town where I was raised was supposedly reported in the 1950s as having more churches than gas stations. Currently there are over 250 churches for my town of 120K people. My family had strong roots in Oklahoma and Texas, and you could say that we all were deeply entrenched in conservative religion.

I was in the church from the time I was born, doing the Sunday School, vacation Bible school thing, saved at age 8, baptized at age 12 - and somehow in the middle of all that religion I managed to find out who Jesus Christ was, and who he'd become to me.

The two are obviously not mutually exclusive, which we'll get into in more detail in a minute.

The Jesus I heard about in Sunday school, or read about in the Bible, believed in the health of the people. It was in fact quite common for Jesus to heal/save right in the same event. To be made whole always meant in body as well as in spirit. To settle for any less would be incomplete.

And Jesus was (and IMO is) anything but incomplete.

If you look back at the society of that day, many people ostracized the sick as punished by God for their sins or the sins of their family. They were shunned and left to suffer and die, they were feared, judged and abandoned.

For Jesus, this would not do. He touched their life and made them well - it was his calling. He came to heal the sick, he said, and was unafraid even to raise the dead from their graves simply because of his great love and compassion for them, as well as the people who loved them.

"Well, Ginger, that's symobolism. When Jesus said he came to heal the sick, he meant the sinners. It was about saving souls."

Convenient argument, considering the gospels are filled with accounts of his miraculous healing powers that touched not just the faithless, but the faithful as well.

Consider the story of the woman who had suffered with the issue of blood for twelve years, and only wanted to touch the hem of his robe - knowing that it would heal her.... 'n it did.

"But that was a story of faith, not of healing."

You can't have one without the other. They walked hand in hand all through the gospels. In fact, the argument can be made that the healing came not from Jesus but from the faith itself... but that's a theological discussion for another time.

When Jesus saw suffering of any kind, it was his calling to fix the problem. In the book of Isaiah, where his life was prophesied, it says that by the suffering he endured we are *healed*.

The literal definition of "heal" - "to restore health or soundness", "to set right, repair", "to restore".

Jesus proved over and over again physical healing was part of the deal.

Therefore, as Christians, we need to be focused on making sure we are all healed not just in our spirit, but in our minds and in our bodies.

In FACT... in Matthew 10:8 he commands us to "heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those with leprosy, drive out demons." He goes on to say, "Freely you have received. Freely give."

Jesus also advises that we, "Be perfect, as your father in heaven is perfect."

If we are truly made in God's image, I'm thinking cancer, heart disease, depression and various other ailments are not part of that package. Those are imperfections, and that's not part of who God was or who Jesus was.

"That doesn't apply to me. I treat my body as a temple."

Good for you. So did Jesus. But note he wasn't content just staying healthy himself. He wanted everyone around him healthy too. That is an extension of love. If you love someone you don't want them to be sick or suffer, and you will do everything you can to make sure they are made well.

Restored as it were.

Now I could give you a dozen scripture references here on how important healing was to Christ, but there are a lot of them and that's a lot of work for people who obviously don't bother reading the Bible they stand upon. If you just read through the first four books of the New Testament they'd be impossible to miss. Even if you're one of those fundamentalists who want to tell me what is literal and what is symbolic by your own terms and definitions, even you can't argue that the very fact that healing/health IS a symbol shows the importance of our physical health in unison with our spiritual souls.

So when there's the issue of insuring the uninsured, making sure those who couldn't either afford or qualify for life saving health care, I consider that a Christ approved calling. It's a moral issue at its heart that puts humanity above profit, and there is no argument based anywhere in that Bible that supports fighting against it.

In fact, if we really want to dig deeper into it, there are plenty of scriptures that fight against the fight against HCR. If you don't agree, consider how your argument would stand up if you were face to face with Jesus today. If you were trying to tell Jesus you were afraid of socialism, which by your definition means "spreading the wealth" around, how do you think he'd respond to you? Do you honestly feel that he would change his tune from what he told to the rich young ruler, who upheld all the "rules" of religion, but was unable to fulfill the heart of it because he cared more about his fortune than he did what Jesus was telling him to do.

Consider that next time you want to paint a Joker face on the President.

In fact, most of the arguments against HCR have to do with money.

Find me one verse - just one - where Jesus said it was okay to shaft someone else so that you can keep more of your money in your wallet.

In fact, Jesus said the two greatest commandments were loving God and loving others as you love yourself.

More importantly, check out Matthew 6:24 “No one can serve two masters. For you will hate one and love the other; you will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

So none of your arguments would hold water with Christ.

If you're fighting against HCR, you're ultimately fighting against Christ himself. You can save your sanctimony when it comes to the anti-choice, anti-gay stuff, because when it comes right down to it the only person you care about is yourself... not others, and certainly not God.

But I'm going to go one further.

If Jesus's mission was to give life and give it abundantly, and the devil's mission is to steal, kill and destroy....

Consider which of those two influences you're ultimately fighting for when you fight against making sure that every man, woman and child has health care and will not have to lose everything if the worst happens and they become seriously ill.

The people who benefit from your actions are the stock holders, the share holders, the insurance companies and those whose wealth has nothing whatsoever to do with you OR your God.

So I guess you need to figure out exactly where you stand.

If you're fighting against the fundamentally moral position of taking care of everyone, specifically the "least of these", you can not stand with Christ.

Think about that next time you pray for the death of a president, or the failure of health care reform.

You can either be Christ-like, or be a Pharisee. It's up to you.

Sojourners FaithforHealth.org
August 16, 2009 - Sunday 

Current mood:astounded
Category: News and Politics
As the opposition to Health Care Reform grows louder and more insane, the most incredulous part of the whole debacle is the group whose clamors ring the shrillest.

It is from the Religious Right, who fear beyond anything that Obama is marching us straight towards a socialist civilization that will dare to put the quality of human life over the almighty dollar.

As someone raised in the Christian faith and a believer going on four decades, this puzzles me on a very fundamental level.

I may have to read the gospels - again - to figure out what Jesus *exactly* to whom they consider the author of their faith, because the Jesus I love would turn their self serving, fearful, hate-mongering tables over.

Someone will have to explain it to me because I don't get it. Does their Bible *not* have the following passage from the 25th book of Matthew?

35'For (A)I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me something to drink; (B)I was a stranger, and you invited Me in;

36(C)naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you (D)visited Me; (E)I was in prison, and you came to Me.'

37"Then the righteous will answer Him, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You something to drink?

38'And when did we see You a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You?

39'When did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?'

40"(F)The King will answer and say to them, 'Truly I say to you, (G)to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.'


Likewise, didn't Jesus *also* say this to the rich boy who came to him asking how he could follow him aside from abiding by all the rules?

16(O)And someone came to Him and said, "Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may obtain (P)eternal life?"

17And He said to him, "Why are you asking Me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but (Q)if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments."

18Then he said to Him, "Which ones?" And Jesus said, "(R)YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER; YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY; YOU SHALL NOT STEAL; YOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS;

19(S)HONOR YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER; and (T)YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF."

20The young man said to Him, "All these things I have kept; what am I still lacking?"

21Jesus said to him, "If you wish to be complete, go and (U)sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have (V)treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."

22But when the young man heard this statement, he went away grieving; for he was one who owned much property.

23And Jesus said to His disciples, "Truly I say to you, (W)it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.

24"Again I say to you, (X)it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."


I mean, I kinda hate to break it to you... but if "spreading the wealth" around to cover "welfare" for the poor makes one a socialist....

JESUS WAS A SOCIALIST.



So that picture you're all spreading around showing Obama with the Joker face? Jesus's face should fit there also.

Can you just imagine the fit that the Religious Right would throw if we dared pass around a photo of *that*?

Ooo boy.

Now I know this must be upsetting for all you out there who want to use your Bibles as canons against us "godless" Liberals. I know it helps you sleep better at night to stand on all this unearned moral superiority that you're somehow special or chosen because you attach the "Christian" label onto your lapel while you wave your American flags. But the sad truth is you haven't a clue as to what it means to be "Christ-like" as long as you put money before your fellow man.

And that includes bemoaning your taxes being raised to take care of those "lazy good for nothings" sponging off of the welfare system.

That's just one more reason to put yourself and what you do for you before someone else, which is the antithesis of Jesus.

Matthew 25:

41"Then He will also say to those on His left, '(AN)Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the (AO)eternal fire which has been prepared for (AP)the devil and his angels;

42for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink;

43I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.'

44"Then they themselves also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?'

45"Then He will answer them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.'

46"These will go away into (AQ)eternal punishment, but the righteous into (AR)eternal life."


Jesus Christ was a healer, who came into this world to "heal the sick". In fact, Jesus equated our physical health with the health of our souls by making sure those who were ill were made whole. It sort of went hand in hand with sins being forgiven.

AND he did it for free.

Well, to be honest there was a price to be paid but he willingly paid it... but that's another theological debate for another time.

There's no Christian basis to make health care a capitalist endeavor. None. Our empathy and compassion to our fellow man - and here's the clincher... whether we like them or not - should outweigh something as replaceable as money.

Fortunately these harpies making such a ruckus against health care are not the majority. For every Pat Buchanan or Sarah Palin who shame God by this hateful and self serving position against health care reform (sometimes clear distortions of positions some of them have taken themselves), who dare to use the word "evil", there is a group like Sojourners, who have made it their mission to take the true Christian stand for our fellow Americans who simply cannot afford to get sick.

There is indeed an evil at work here in this argument. I ask anyone who calls themselves Christian to turn off Rush Limbaugh and Fox News long enough re-read the words and actions of Jesus Christ and find out which one is evil:

Putting the love of money above the needs of a human life.

Or

Showing compassion to those who are sick and need to be healed.

You can choose to be the light of the world, like Jesus.

Or you can choose to hold tight to that which is temporal so that no one else can "get yours".

But be warned. We will know you by the choice that you make, no matter how loudly you claim to be a "Christian".

(And Jesus will too.)

Matthew 7:

15"Beware of the (L)false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are (M)ravenous wolves.

16"You will (N)know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?

17"So (O)every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit.

18"A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit.

19"(P)Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

20"So then, you will know them (Q)by their fruits.

21"(R)Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.

22"(S)Many will say to Me on (T)that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?'

23"And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; (U)DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'

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August 14, 2009 - Friday 
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One thing that continually confounds me is the determination of the American Conservative Right to fight against their own best interest.

The only thing they seem willing to conserve is the very same system that routinely fails them enough that they need to vote "their" guy in to fix things or save them.

It's akin to hiring that handy man who continually does shoddy work so you'll need to hire him again to fix what he should have fixed the first time.

Politicians reach out to "Main Street" America as some sort of American Ideal. Small town morals, family values and the like blanket behavior, legislation and intent that is anything but.

And yet, especially since 2008's history making election, these politicians whose legislative work has been more in favor of big corporations and against Ma and Pa from Backwoods BFE, have managed to work Ma and Pa and all their kin into a frighteningly zealous fervor.

I've heard the word "revolution" used, which would be fine IF these folks were actually trying to revolt against that which holds them back and for that which will empower them.

By buying into these innuendos and bald faced lies, they are doing anything but.

I'm just going to say this as plain as I can.

These bought and paid for politicians (which includes you rat ass Blue Dogs out there), and 24 hour news talking heads do not give two shits about you or your family.

You are nothing more than a vote they manipulate as the mood strikes.

Case in point:

Republican politicians run on "pro-life" platforms to get the vote... yet, even though in the thirty-plus years since abortion has been legalized a Republican has held the highest office of the nation 2/3rds of the time in a pretty significant majority, somehow or another they haven't seen fit to follow through on anti-choice legislation.

Why? Maybe because if they DID do anything about it, they'd lose a huge chunk of "single issue" voters out there who only trudge to the polls to make their token vote of conscience to "save the children".

(And yet... this same contingent will trudge just as quickly to the polls to vote against these children getting health care.... curious!)

Likewise, this whole "birther business" is a lot of smoke and mirrors that has dick to do with Obama himself.

The legislation is a waste of a tree to prove that all FUTURE presidents would have to prove they are American citizens, which by the way you can't tell me they don't already. Have *you* ever tried to get a government job?

This has nothing to do with proving or disproving Obama's citizenship OR the legitimacy of his presidency. All it is there for is to create enough doubt in your mind that such a possibility could exist so that you remain fearful enough to control.

"He's not one of us." (i.e., he's a threat)

Now they're getting you all worked up against health care reform, as they seek to block your getting the very same health care coverage you pay for THEM to get (as well as Iraq and Afghanistan, as part of the war funding). They're misleading you to believe the absolute worst to keep you terrified so that you will revolt...

AGAINST YOURSELF.

Pastors are encouraging their congregants to bring their guns to church, hate crimes are on the rise and fur is flying EVERYWHERE... while everyone is busy fighting each other they're too occupied to hold their politicians accountable for less than honorable behavior.

And no, I don't mean having a beer.

It wasn't too long ago that being able to have a beer with a guy was a good reason to vote him into the highest office in the country.



Almost every person who has dared to engage in a debate with me over health care reform has been someone who DOESN'T HAVE INSURANCE. Most of whom are too broke to afford it.

And they trot out the same tired misinformation that, if they'd just calm down enough to look at things from a logical point of view, they'd easily understand to be exactly what it is: a line of bullshit by a small group of people who like to keep you ignorant because you're easier to push around the chessboard.

1. "We can't afford health care reform."

EEEHHHHH. Wrong. Per the CBO (Congressional Budget Office), the plan will be deficit neutral AND even produces a surplus.

Gee. A surplus. We haven't seen one of those since....



You know how those tax and spend liberals are...



2. "They're going to kill old people and pay for abortions!!"

Ah, yes. The "evil" of the health care bill.

Again... EEEHHHHHHHH. We're not going to pay for abortions, and we're not going to gas your granny.

Not only are these claims egregious and unapologetic fabrications, this is one more example of the schizophrenic leaders of the Radical Right saying one thing and doing another; the queen of said behavior Sarah Palin leading the way.

If your grand leaders don't even believe the line of moose pucky they're trying to sell to you, that makes your believing such things really grasping at straws.

Which is only slightly less desperate than grasping for straw men. Which brings us to ...

3. "He's going to turn us into Canada or the UK!!"

Three strikes... you're OUT.

No where has Obama ever endorsed a single payer system. In fact, introducing a form of socialized medicine into the free market atmosphere actually *lends* to the free market theory in keeping prices competitive and low enough to be advantageous for the consumer.

It has worked successfully in those countries you'll never hear these politicians who oppose universal health care measures talking about; countries say... like FRANCE... which happens to top the World Health Organization's list of top health care systems in the world.

The much maligned UK actually comes in the top 20, landing squarely at #18, which might be why Prime Minister Gordon Brown and Britons far and wide have flocked to the social networking site Twitter to defend their National Health Service (or NHS) against these misleading attacks (read: lies) from the American GOP on how awful or inferior their health care system is.

Canada, conversely, came in at number 30, and that probably does justly deserve some the ridicule and the fear that these politicians are throwing at it.

Until, of course, you realize that the United States comes in at number 38. That's eight less than Canada and a whopping twenty less than the UK.

But what's in a number?

Ah, yes. Good ol' #4.

4. "Health care reform is the start of socialism!"

I'm not even going to post the photo of Obama that has been circulating out there, but odds are you know exactly the one I mean.

This claim is so paranoid I'm not even really sure how to counter it with common sense, because I suspect those who lodge the complaint are in quite short supply.

Even IF the country went to a single payer system for health care, that does not mean that the entire government would become socialist. Most countries that have some form of universal health care are *REPUBLICS* and *DEMOCRACIES*, which includes our evil, no health care worth havin neighbors to the north.

Maybe the idea of socialism wouldn't be so frightening if people actually knew what it meant.

As G.I. Joe says, knowing is half the battle.

So to recap...

The health care is not going to spend us into the poor house, it's not going to kill your grandma or make you pay for evil abortions, it's not going to be a single payer system like Canada or thrust us straight into a socialist government regime.

So if you're out there, and you're uninsured, and God forbid if you're sick, please stop going to these town hall meetings and championing the cause AGAINST yourself.

Take a deep breath. Relax. Calm down.

Otherwise you're going to have your blood pressure spike and end up in the hospital.

And who of us can afford *that*?
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