Ballot Label summary

The California Secretary of State's summary from the Official Voter Information Guide^[1] of Proposition 2 is as follows:

• Requires that calves raised for veal, egg-laying hens and pregnant pigs be confined only in ways that allow these animals to lie down, stand up, fully extend their limbs and turn around freely.
• Exceptions made for transportation, rodeos, fairs, 4-H programs, lawful slaughter, research and veterinary purposes.
• Provides misdemeanor penalties, including a fine not to exceed $1,000 and/or imprisonment in jail for up to 180 days.

Lately, I've been getting a lot of flack for saying that PeTA supports "happy meat" or meat that is raised humanely. I support this stance of PeTA's, albeit not a very known one. You see, PeTA flip flops on it's stances on meat. It tells people that veganism is the ONLY way to go, but praises big meat and fast food for choosing more humane living situations.

I realize that not everyone will go vegan, or even veggie. Some people can't do it, can't do it right, or just refuse to give up meat. So my advice to them is: buy non factory farmed meat, eggs, and dairy.

Some good sites for you to consider:

www.eatwellguide.org
www.eatwild.com
www.localharvest.com

Now, does PeTA support happy meat? Hm... let see. Yes: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17844064/

And does PeTA give awards to people who build slaughter houses? Hm... lets see. Yes: http://www.abolitionist-online.com/

Why happy meat? Dying is painful and unpleasant, period. Dying from old age, bleeding out, from giving birth, from disease, etc is all painful and unpleasant. I doubt many deaths are painless (regardless of whether or not we cause it), save for a shot to the head or dying in their sleep. At least the animals in a non factory farmed setting lived a full life before continuing the food chain.

"Aren't we keeping them from their full lives?"

Well, considering most of the animals we use as livestock aren't hunters, they don't need to roam or hunt. Most graze or just walk/lie around. Pigs, chicken, cows, etc. These animals ARE living their full lives. They just have to stay within a fenced area, and I'm speaking of local/family farms, not factory farms.

In NO WAY am I supporting factory farms, and if you've read this far and think that I do, please read it again.

To the vegans who think they don't support any death, you are being hypocritical. Unless you farm your own vegetables or know the people you buy your veggies from, you contribute to the deaths of millions of animals caught in combines, pesticides to keep "pests" away, and countless deaths in processing machinery. Many farmers have control hunts to keep down the deer population from eating YOUR grains, beans, etc. Unless you don't drive a car, you make your own clothes (with cotton you made yourself), make your own home products (soap, brushes, etc), I don't want to hear it. Do you have ANYTHING in your house with plastic on it? Well, some plastic was/is made from animals. You're not doing all you can to stop all the animal suffering, so stop being so high and mighty for being vegan, or when people eat happy meat.

From: www.dogpolitics.com I couldn't say it better myself. :)

Are You Funding The Dog Holocaust?

First off, I’m not entirely anti-PeTA. PeTA has some good views, like eradicating factory farms, getting our pet population down, and stoping animal abuse. I would have to say that I don’t support PeTA for the most part, though. Their view on Pits Bulls is misguided, and their venture to eradicate the entire breed because some dogs are trained to be violent and blame those horrendous acts the humans force on them on an entire breed is downright idiotic. Punish the deed, not the breed.

Their other views on companion animals/pets and the eradication of them is silly as well. I feel as if we have a special bond with our animals, and I feel the world benefits by our relationships with them. Yes, we have an overpopulation problem. No, spaying and neutering out of existance is NOT the answer. We need education, and spaying and neutering. Not wiping them out. My view on their euthenasia policy.
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I’m a veggie, but I don’t believe that meat eating is wrong. Wiping it out for all humans isn’t the answer. Many people can’t live healthy lives being veggie, and a completely veggie world could mess our ecosystem up.

Again, education is the answer to all of these problems! I don’t tell people not to support PeTA, but I don’t support them financially and I ask people to support other animal right/welfare groups instead.

Some times PeTA has good ideas and good petitions/movements. The point of this site is NOT to push you to hate PeTA. I have many friends who do, and thats fine. The point of this site is to educate you to know what you’re supporting. You can support PeTA in some of their ventures, but supporting them financially is donating money to causes that you don’t want to support.

You don’t have to agree with me completely on my view on vegetarianism, or animal rights/welfare, but feel free to use information on my site, even if you don’t want to add me. If you ever have questions, please contact me for more info.

Note: This will be updated at a later time when I remember more things. Sometime I just forget until people send me messages and post comments.

This is in response to this, where PeTA2 claims that eating meat is bad, and therefore, makes you CRAZY. You all know I'm a vegetarian, but I'm sorry, this is going TOO far.

So, lets look at all the EVIL meat eaters, shall we?

Benito Mussolini, Italian dictator
Charles Manson, infamous murderer
David Duke, founder of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan
Jim Jones, Kool-Aid drinking cult leader
Osama Bin Laden, terrorist leader

You're right, none of these people would win a Nobel Peace Prize, and it MUST be because they ate/eat meat, right? No, it's because of their lives, beliefs, and upbringing. I'll admit, people who condone killing wouldn't have a problem killing and/or eating meat, but thats like saying all bad people have been exposed to dogs, so kill all the dogs. Yeah, that's probably true, but it's kind of unrelated.



So, to counter, let me show you some GOOD meat eaters:

Although Martin Luther King Jrs wife, Coretta Scott King was a veggie, MLK Jr was NOT.


MEAT EATER

Winston Churchill, led Britian during World War II, and is thought to be a great man and thinker.

MEAT EATER

Aristotle wrote on diverse subjects, including physics, metaphysics, poetry (including theater), biology and zoology, logic, rhetoric, politics, government, and ethics.

MEAT EATER

Jesus, asking for fish and loaves. Is that enough evidence to prove he ate meat, PeTA?


MEAT EATER




Now, to move on, how about some EVIL vegetarians?

Volkert van der Graaf's extra-legal activities as an animal rights activist include at least two murders.

VEGGIE

Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme, one of Charles Mansons girls, was a veggie. Although she never killed anyone, she tried twice.

VEGGIE

Maybe Charlie Manson isn't a vegetarian, I can't find any hard proof that he is or isn't, but I DID find that he IS an Animal Rights Activist. "There is no comprimise to saving ATWA, ATWA is a holy war." [ATWA = Air, Trees, Water, Animals]
I love how they FAILED to mention he's an Animal Rights Activist, just like they are.

By the way, rumor has it that Hitler was an Animal Rights Activist/vegetarian too.

Oh, and lets not forget PeTA praising Timothy McVeigh, the OKC bomber, for choosing a vegan last meal. Here, they ask him to choose a vegan last meal. So, it's cool that he killed people, but not kill animals?

Here is McVeighs response:

"You gotta remember," McVeigh writes in the letter obtained by the Post, "this is meat-eatin' farm country; still, good job getting the attention to your cause (like protesting dead rats on 'Survivor') ... Truth is, I understand your cause -- I've seen slaughterhouses myself -- but I still believe in reasonable taking and eating of game (as an outdoorsman and hunter) ... My one main problem with the veg movements is this (besides the fact that I'm a libertarian): Where do you draw the line, and what standard is used to define that line? ... What about grubs/worms/etc.? (that chick on 'Survivor 2'). And finally, plants are alive, too: they react to stimuli (including 'pain'); have circulatory systems, etc.; so how about them? I cannot sustain a prolonged intellectual debate on the subject as my time is short, but I'd suggest hitting Ted Kaczynski up for his opinions on the subject."

Don't know if PeTA corp. made these, but I don't think they would disapprove. I honestly think these are to be aimed at our youth, especially our teenage boys.

This video may or may not be from PeTA (although it does say peta2 in the browser), but I've seen a lot of animal rights activists trying to push this as real.

If so, I've got a GREAT site for you!

American Temperament Test Society, Inc. (ATTS)

ATTS was established to:

• Provide for a uniform national program of temperament testing of purebred and spayed/neutered mixed-breed dogs.
• Conduct seminars to disseminate information to dog owners, dog breeders and evaluators (testers) concerning dog psychology, motivation, reaction and other aspects of temperament testing.
• Recognize and award certificates to dogs that pass the requirements of the temperament evaluation.
• Work for the betterment of all breeds of dogs.
• Select, train, prepare and register temperament evaluators.

It's not the most beautiful site, but it's awesome!

Upcoming tests.
FAQ

Now, if you don't live anywhere near where the tests are being held, here is another cool place:

Canine Good Citizen

The Canine Good Citizen (CGC) program, established in 1989, is an American Kennel Club program to promote responsible dog ownership and to encourage the training of well-mannered dogs.

• Accepting a friendly stranger.
• Sitting politely for petting.
• Allowing basic grooming procedures.
• Walking on a loose lead.
• Walking through a crowd.
• Sitting and lying down on command and staying in place.
• Coming when called.
• Reacting appropriately to another dog.
• Reacting appropriately to distractions.
• Calmly enduring supervised separation from the owner.

If all ten objectives are met, the handler can apply for a certificate and special dog tag from the AKC stating that the dog has earned the CGC.

Dogs do not have to be registered with the AKC to earn a CGC, nor do they have to be purebred or, in fact, registered with any canine organization. The goal is to promote good citizenship for all dogs.

Thanks for the link, guys!

Ok, doing some snooping around, I found some more info on the PeTA death van scandal, here.

PeTA Trial Begins November 13

The accused: Andrew Benjamin Cook of Virginia Beach, Va. and Adria Joy Hinkle of Norfolk, Va.

The PeTA workers were arrested on June 15, 2005. Allegedly, they euthanized 31 animals (dogs and cats) and dumped the dead bodies into a waste container located behind an Ahoskie grocery store.

Dr. Pat Proctor, owner of AAH, said he contacted PeTA in regards to picking-up the animals. Hinkle and Cook came to his business on June 15 and picked-up the animals, promising to find them good homes. However, the cat and her two kittens, all judged by Proctor as in good health and adoptable, were among the 31 dead animals linked to Hinkle's and Cook's possession on the day of their arrest.

Hinkle and Cook were arrested by the police late in the afternoon of June 15. When, on a stake-out, they observed a white van in which the two were operating stop in an area located behind Piggly Wiggly in Ahoskie's Newmarket Shopping Center and toss several black bags in a commercial dumpster, a traffic stop was initiated on the van - a vehicle registered to PeTA.

The bags located in the dumpster contained 18 dead dogs, including one bag containing seven puppies. An additional 13 dead animals, including the mother cat and her two kittens, were found in the van.

Twenty-two of the animals discovered on June 15 were collected the same day by Hinkle and Cook.

An autopsy performed later on one of those dogs revealed the animal was in good health prior to its death.

(I stole bits and pieces of a story online. THIS STORY, FOUND HERE.)

PeTA digital camera found, may lead to incrimination.

Ahoskie Police Chief Troy Fitzhugh reported that a warrant had been executed to retrieve the images recorded on a digital camera allegedly used by the two PeTA workers.

"The photos will be used as evidence during the course of the ongoing investigation," Fitzhugh said.

"All we do know and can release to the media at this time are the following facts in the case," Fitzhugh said. "(1) These animals were alive when they were picked up on June 15 from the Bertie County Animal Shelter. (2) The incident involving the dumping of these animals occurred at 5 p.m. on Wednesday afternoon, June 15. There have been some reports I've seen that said this incident occurred at night. (3) We do know at the time of the arrest that a female was operating the van and a male was a passenger."

PeTA has suspended Hinkle in lieu of their investigation. Cook remains actively employed with the Norfolk, Va. based organization.

(I stole bits and pieces of a story online. THIS STORY, FOUND HERE.)

Similar cases found.

Hearing date for employees of PeTA reset for Aug. 16

Drugs used to kill animals, shown to be used by PeTA employees.

"We have received confirmation from the SBI Crime Lab the drugs contained in the tackle box were Ketamine and Pentobarbital," Roberts said.

Dr. Cheryl Powell of the Powellsville Pet Clinic, who is a licensed veterinarian, said Ketamine is primarily used as aesthetic drug that is used to sedate animals.

"You would have to get carried away with that drug to kill," Dr. Powell said.

She said the Pentobarbital was the sedative given to animals to euthanize them.

(I stole bits and pieces of a story online. THIS STORY, FOUND HERE.)

Also, aids patients against PeTA.

(THIS BLOG IS A PERSONAL ARTICLE WRITTEN BY THETRUTHABOUTPETA)

You're a vegatarian or vegan (aka the complete vegetarian), now what?

One of the main reasons I started this site, is so people who were touched by PeTAs words on how animals were being treated and are now either vegetarian or vegan, can now know what PeTA really stands for.

You've seen the videos, of turkeys being thrown, baby male chicks in dumpsters, calfs in cages, animal testing, and skinning animals while they're still alive. They moved you... made you want to stop eating meat. Made you want to stand up and DO something!

Why this injustice to all these living animals? Why do they have to die, let alone in such a horrible manner?

Now, you belong to one of the largest animal rights groups in the world. They educated you, and told you they want to save animals. You listened and watched and understood... but did you really understand?

Some of the things that PeTA stands for, I can sympathize with. Lets save the animals! But did you know, that PeTA doesn't WANT to save them, like you and I do? They want "total animal liberation." Sounds good, huh? It's not what you think.

In PeTAs world there are NO: pets, seeing eye dogs, farms, ranches, horseback riding, zoos.

Thats right! All the animals that you have had throughout your childhood, who helped you grow and become the person you are, SHOULDN'T exist in PeTAs world. Just the thought of not growing up with my cats... my dogs.. my snake... my hamsters... my ferrets.... all my animals who had loving and nurturing homes, makes me sick to my stomach. I wouldn't be the same person I am now without them, and I know you wouldn't either.

Just imagine growing up without the pets you had! Can you imagine them not being there? PeTA believes that having pets is animal enslavement. See here: 

"As John Bryant has written in his book Fettered Kingdoms, they [pets] are like slaves, even if well-kept slaves." -PETA's Statement on Companion Animals

Ingrid, as well as many PeTA supporters believe that domesticated animals shouldn't exist:

"The cat, like the dog, must disappear..... We should cut the domestic cat free from our dominance by neutering, neutering, and more neutering, until our pathetic version of the cat ceases to exist." -John Bryant, Fettered Kingdoms: An Examination of a Changing Ethic, PETA 1982, p.15.

PeTA and it's supporters even has the GALL to compare the lives of animals to the lives of humans:

"Human beings, as a species, have no more value than slugs." -- John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal

"What we must do is start viewing every cow, pig, chicken, monkey, rabbit, mouse, and pigeon as our family members." ---Gary Yourofsky, Humane Education Director, PETA, The Toledo Blade, June 24, 2001

"The life of an ant and the life of my child should be accorded equal respect." -- Michael W. Fox, Vice President, The Humane Society (The Associated Press, Jan. 15, 1989).

"We feel that animals have the same rights as a retarded human child" -- Alex Pacheco, Director, PETA, (New York Times, January 14, 1989).

"There is no rational basis for saying that a human being has special rights. A rat is a pig is a dog is a boy. They're all mammals." -- Ingrid Newkirk, PETA's President (in The Washington Times August 29, 1999).

They even decide to take it even further than that! They decide that not only are humans and animals equals, and should be treated as such, but that in the past, the KILLING of millions of humans is as equal to the killing of animals:

"Six million Jews died in concentration camps, but six billion broiler chickens will die this year in slaughter houses." -Ingrid Newkirk, President, PETA, The Washington Post, November 13, 1983.

They even dared comparing the heartbreaking pictures of black men being hung in trees, to pictures of cows being strung up. Here is a quote from nhregister.com, a newspaper site online:

One man demanded that the NAACP get involved immediately. Five minutes later, Scot X. Esdaile, president of the state and Greater New Haven chapters of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, arrived at the scene, surveyed the photos and blasted the organizers.

"Once again, black people are being pimped. You used us. You have used us enough," Esdaile said. "Take it down immediately."

"I am a black man! I can't compare the suffering of these black human beings to the suffering of this cow," said Michael Perkins, 47, of New Haven. He stood in front of a photo of butchered livestock hung next to the photo of two lynched black men dangling before a white mob.

"You can't compare me to a freaking cow," shouted John Darryl Thompson, 46, of New Haven, inches from Carr's face. "We don't care about PETA. You are playing a dangerous game."

Again, I'm not asking you to stop fighting animal torture, and the slaughtering of animals. Thats what this site is all about! I just want you to know what you stand for. If you honestly believe everything that PeTA stands for, then support them. But please, be informed.