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Wednesday, June 24, 2009
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Just look at this! Hehehehehehehehehehehe! ----- Original Message ----- From: Yahoo! Answers To: SophieCapri Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:15 PM Subject: Yahoo! Answers: Your answer has been chosen as the best answer Hey, Capri, look what you got! Congratulations, you've got a best answer and 10 extra points! Your answer to the following question really hit the spot and has been chosen as the best answer: Go ahead, do your victory dance. Celebrate a little. Brag a little. Then come back and answer a few more questions! Thanks for sharing what you know and making someone's day. The Yahoo! Answers Team
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Thursday, June 18, 2009
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To start with, I'll post a site that I found amusing. People actually believed there was such thing as a gundam!? Lol! http://www.bouncingredball.com/2009/06/18/tokyos-giant-gundam-struck-with-lightning-burns-in-flames/Now, what has me boiling over Yesterday on the news, there was a story about two cowardly girls that robbed a 92 year old lady, not only did they rob her of her purse, which is bad enough, they beat her! She was an active person, but now they've caused pelvic injuries, kicking her about the hips and I think the head as well. Bloody cowards! They should be publically named, shamed and flogged! I could personally dole it out, I am so damn sickened by these robbing cowardly bullies! Maybe I'll write something about my characters giving it to them since I can't do it personally.
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Monday, June 15, 2009
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On Animal Planet this morning, they showed the Houston, Texas SPCA execute two raids. In theory, it was identical to what 20/20 showed in June of last year. The only difference is that no one publicly challenged the actions the SPCA took against the two households. The first raid was of an older couple - perhaps in their late 50's early 60's (I'm bad at guessing ages) - that had about 110 small crossbreed dogs. Many were loose on the fenced-in property and many were in the house. The house was cluttered, but I don't remember there being a law regarding good housekeeping. They handcuffed the wife and put her in a car. The husband ran in the house and got his shotgun. He just stood outside, held the rifle against his side, pointed straight up. He made no threats about using it. I'm not even sure if it was loaded. The cops, all lined up along the fence, all drew their guns quite dramatically and took a threatening shooting stance. You know the one - legs spread, knees bent, both hands on the pistol held with arms outstretched in front of them at face level. Another cop ran to his car, pulled out what looked to me like a portable canon (heavy duty rifle), jumped up on another car's trunk, then roof, and took a stance pointing it down at the man. I understand that there was the potential of a problem, so I am not minimizing what they did --- just that it was sooooooooo dramatic and phony looking. They called the people hoarders. The cops told him to give up the rifle and he said no, that if he did, he knows they're going to shoot him. But he did give it up - through it over (rifle still pointed upwards) to the man. They then grabbed him and slammed him down against the car's hood and handcuffed him. The final result was that the SPCA took all the dogs - the dogs all had great weight on them BTW - and said they would put them up for adoption. The man was charged with a weapons violation but they were not charged with animal cruelty. Ummm - is this the America our forefathers wrote about in that thing called the Bill of Rights and Constitution? Hmmm? Then the second raid was at the home of an elderly woman. She was sitting in her living room in a rocking chair - scared to death - and holding onto two or three small dogs on her lap for dear life. Her house looked clean and uncluttered. She had a lot of cats. They all seemed to be in good shape. They said they found one cat in a room with the door closed - that the woman probably didn't know it was in there and probably hadn't fed it because it was allegedly skinny and dying. They put that one in a crate but it didn't look to me like it was anywhere near death at all. Drama - drama. You saw how they grabbed the cats and put them in crates. One guy grabbed a cat near another guy's leg. The cat grabbed the guy's leg and scratched/bit the hell out of him. He sustained a baaaaad gash. That really had to hurt. After all the cats were taken and loaded on the trailer, a woman from the SPCA approached the woman, bent down, and told her she could keep the dogs. After the show was over, the cruelty investigator from the NYC ASPCA (blonde female - I forget her name - came on asking for donations. She's the one that participated illegally in a raid upstate NY a few years ago. It was early in the morning and woke up the family by banging on their window with her gun drawn. She made her and her husband come outside in their underwear (late November) and did a body search on them, feeling inside their underwear ... while the male cops watched. The female victim, in her bra and panties, asked to go inside to put some clothes on. They said no. The eight year old daughter came outside to see what was going on. This ASPCA person pointed her gun at the child and told her to get inside. The only good things about airing these shows is that we and the general public get to view what goes on at a raid - and some day, we will be able to use it against them. Voila! Happy day! wjf From Jan B Subject: Re: Animal Planet 11/15/06 - Houston SPCA Date: November 16, 2006 1:47 AM This country is getting SOOO screwed up. I cannot believe that we are letting our agencies carry out little wars on citizens like this. No wonder the Republicans lost. They have very little to offer in the way of protecting our freedoms. They just let these little agencies and bureaucrats run roughshod over little people, taking their property under false pretenses. Then they have the nerve to say that they are bringing democracy and freedom to other countries. I don't think they even know what freedom and democracy are, anymore, or what people are going through. Out here in California they are giving out insane penalties for all sorts of things relating to code enforcement. They just make up the penalties. $600 a day or more is not uncommon. Well, we let them do it to the corporations, and now they want to do it to everyone. See how it works? The reason that they are after old people like this is that they know they have assets which can be attached, and they know that they will never live long enough to sue them in court. So, they bully old people. Chickenshit bastards! We should have NEVER let the government have any forfeiture rights in the so-called "drug wars". If you want to see something, go look at FEAR.org. In a few places where the cops have been successfully backed off of forfeiture, these kinds of raids have all but disappeared. These are fundraising adventures, to raise money to go directly to the agency. Some old guy like that fella in the story is going to use his shotgun one day. It's coming to that. These guys fought in wars to defeat tyranny like this. I'm sure they know tyranny when they see it. From Valerie Subject: Re: Animal Planet 11/15/06 - Houston SPCA Date: November 16, 2006 6:43 PM When I first got sattelite (um, which was only two years ago LOL...don't laugh, I still don't have a DVD player) I thought Animal Planet was great, my daughter was 9 years old at the time and we enjoyed watching Animal Precinct, or whatever it's called. Then I started to see through it...they tell the people that they're going to help them out, but they end up arresting them anyway. I only remember one episode that doesn't make me sick...someone called them on a shop owner who had a Komondor and complained that the dog was in poor condition and was completely matted. Thankfully, the officers knew what a Komondor was supposed to look like and they left the man alone. I now have Animal Planet blocked, at first my daughter complained, but she's a little older now so I explained to her all the reasons why we can't support that channel. Val From Jan B Subject: Re: Re: Animal Planet 11/15/06 - Houston SPCA Date: November 16, 2006 11:41 PM This is actually very typical of interactions with police, anymore. They arrest everyone and let the courts and lawyers sort it out. And you mentioned that they are misleading people, using the soft approach to get their confidence, then they arrest later on, after gathering information and building their case. Also, this is very typical! This is why the criminal lawyers will always caution you never to answer any questions. Usually, it doesn't prevent arrest, and it will probably only get you deeper into trouble. Police often misquote and misinterpret statements or twist your words, so it's better just to remain silent. You can ask if you are under arrest, and if you are not, then you should remain on your property and inside your home and DO NOT let them in. You can also order them off your property, but of course you cannot force the issue if they don't. They can only get in and arrest with "probable cause". You can ask them what their probable cause is, and it should be specific in nature. Generally, they need a warrant, OK'd by a judge (They can call in for this), OR your consent. Once you have let them in willingly, you have waived your Fourth Ammendment rights, and sometimes this is the only thing that will get you out of trouble later on.. Reason and explanation will not likely get you out of trouble, at all. But if the cops screw up on their process, and you are not so foolish and naive as to waive your Fourth and Fifth Ammendment rights, you might be OK, based on technicalities of the arrest. Most of us think that we can let the cops in and just talk with them. In private life they may be more reasonable, but on the job, most of them want to make sufficient arrests to make themselves look good on paper.. productive and aggressive policing, you know. They will err on the side of screwing up your life, and a lot of them have no regrets at all.. In fact, this is "fun" to them. They may also do things like haze you or try to say tormenting things to incite you to speak or even touch them. How do I know all of this? Because I went through it. And let me tell you what the one cop said to me, "Because of you, probably all of your dogs are going to die". When he said this to me, he was standing RIGHT next to me, and I am very sure that he wanted me to touch him, so that he could charge me for assaulting an officer. This does not have to be a strike or blow. Only a simple touch is all that it takes. I am not a touchy person with strangers, so I did not fall for it. I just looked at him like he was crazy. I really had NO idea what kind of danger my dogs were in, and actually he was right.. A lot of them DID die after they were impounded. Some from gross neglect on their part, and some because they were running up such a huge bill that I realized I had to cut some of my losses and give up the old and dogs which were not critical to my future breeding program. A lot of dogs died, but many were saved, and got out of there.. I worked to make that happen. God knows, my lawyers didn't do much! This pissed the cops off to no end, by the way. They like to think that they run the city, for the most part, and I really put a few kinks in their tail before it was all over. The sweetest little victory was getting most of the poor dogs out. Well, maybe some day I'll write about what happened. For now, just take my word for it. You cannot trust the police. They can lie and deceive and there is absolutely nothing you can believe or trust them in. This is all according to US Supreme Court decisions. The only thing you can safely and reasonably do is to keep your gates and doors locked and shut, do NOT let them in, make no statements to them, and have a good reference on a criminal lawyer, whose number you should know by heart, to give to a trusted friend, who should also have keys to your property. You will get one free call from jail and you need to make it count. Oh.. About someone having keys to your property... When the police and / or animal control have rummaged all through your things and dragged all your dogs, cats and whatever off to the impound, they will generally leave your property standing wide open.. gates, doors and all, an invitation to looters, vandals and curiousity seekers. We were lucky to have a good friend to come and close our place up. What a Godsend! I still cannot believe that police do things like this, but they do, and they seem to think it's cute and clever. Also cute and clever, they strip-searched us both.. For what, I cannot imagine. Neither of us had a criminal history at all. Again, I feel that it was done, sort of Abu-Graib style, to dehumanize and demoralize us. It was suggested to me that I take a shower in the jail, and I did, because I was in a daze and wanted to cooperate. I strongly suspect that I was recorded, naked, for later amusement and cop parties or something stupid which would interest cops off-duty. The demoralization did work very well. I was suicidal for quite a while, but probably more because I was so distressed at the condition of my dogs, once I saw them. That was the real shocker. They were sick, miserable, wounded from fights, overcrowded, frightened, lying in runny excrement, and had puss running from their noses. I will NEVER trust police and law enforcement again. They are a strange combination of sophomoric idiots, predators and NAZIs at heart. Some of them are better than others and have some vestige of a conscience, but seldom will they intervene. They just want to make it to retirement, so they're not going to rock the boat by doing the right thing. The greatest irony of all in my case is that I had donated dogs to the police and US Customs in the past and was looking forward to doing more donations after I retired, oinly a few years off. Needless to say, nothing like that would happen now, even if I was still able. It is a moot question, since this screwed up my finances and retirement so badly that I could no longer afford to do it. But let's put it this way.. I get no joy from the idea of having one of my dogs put on a helpless person. And, this has been done with police K9s in the past. I just wanted to say one thing more.. That the experience of an arrest and prosecution, even the more invasive things like strip-searching and body cavity searches would not bother the street thug or a real criminal, at all. They are made out of a different sort of stuff than the average person, which is in good part why they are what they are and why they do what they do. There have been a lot of studies on sociopathy and criminal behavior to back this up. But to the person of average senstivity, or great sensitivity, this process can be so brutalizing, so humiliating and degrading, that it can trigger profound depression and even suicidal tendencies. Don't let anyone tell you that the animal rights activists have not killed anyone, yet. They have, and through legal process! Because there are two aspects of activism.. One is underground and subversive in nature, using clandestine movements and activities such as sabotage and arson. The other is legal activism. And this is by far the most serious kind, but it is completely unaddressed by our society. There are already several instances of attempted and successful suicides of people who were arrested for animal cruelty, usually because they were operating breeding kennels or rescues, with many animals. The victims are usually older people. Interestingly, these people may be at a much higher risk due to loss of physical and mental faculties as part of the aging process, and because they come from a time when things like this just were not seen in free societies. Often, they have a deep trust of authority and a sense of decency and pride, which, when betrayed and violated, give way to a sense of shock, shame, betrayal and grief which compells them to take their own lives. Many years ago there was an old couple who liked to sit together in the park and feed pigeons. There was a city ordinance against feeding birds in public and some idiot city employee with an obsessive-compulsive personality disorder arrested them. When these old people went home, they talked it over and then very quietly pulled all their curtains and locked the doors and went to bed with the gas turned on. It was the same with a famous old couple in Wales, whose "crime" was a lifetime of raising, showing and judging Cairn Terriers. After they were arrested and their dogs confiscated, the two of them held hands on a precipice overlooking a wild river and jumped. I wonder where we are going as a society. There are things more important than technical observations of the law and the keeping of an orderly society under efficient authority.
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Saturday, June 06, 2009
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From: Beth M (theeternis) Here is my lovely little anti-twilight short story. Hope it's funny. If it's not, at least it was fun to write! *In a forest, early in the morning* Sigma: (breathing heavily) Bez, this is ridiculous. Where the heck are we going-and how long till we get there? Bez: Quit whining. I told you this would be a nice long hike, and you agreed to come. You could have stayed back at the ship. Sigma: (incredulously) What? Everyone else left! Your ship is creepy. *the pair climb up a particularly steep and rocky slope* Bez: It is not. (Points up ahead) We'll meet up with Thande and Matrix at the clearing beyond this rise. Sigma: (Sighs in relief) Bez: Oh come on. We've only been going for, what- Sigma: Six hours! Six freaking hours! *They argue as they enter a clearing in which Matrix and Thande stand. There are three other adults and one child in the clearing as well.* Bez: Matrix, will you please tell Sigma that six hours is not a long hike? (notices the strangers) Who are they? Matrix: (mischievous smile) The little one is a mutant. Child: I am not a mutant! (turns to adult female) Mommy, tell the metal man I am not a mutant! (pouts) I broke my tooth on him! Thande: That is usually what happens when you try to eat a robot. Bez: (disbelieving expression) Thande, did you just make a joke? Adult female: Excuse me! Your forgetting the important people. Bez, Sigma, Matrix and Thande: (turn to face female) Female: (flustered) Well, don't you know who we are? Bez: Should we? Female: (loud, rather undignified and childish noise) Oh, Edward they don't know who we are. Bez: Ohhh...Now I get it. (disappointed expression) Shouldn't you be dead? Edward: Oh no, no, no. We are immortal, but i wouldn't expect someone like you to know that. Bez: What? (moves to pull out gun.) Mutant child: (leaps forward) Wee! Fresh blood! (sinks fang into Bez's arm) Jacob: No, no! Bad Nessie! drop her! Bez: Get this freaking monster off me before I blow her brains out! (begins to hit her on the head with gun) Thande: (takes hold of "Nessie" and begins to pull) Bez: Ouch! Hey, watch it! (aims gun at renesmee [or however you spell her name!]) Jacob: (realizes Bez will really shoot his precious vampire buddy. Grabs hold of her.) Nessie drop it! That's not nice! (Thande: (manages to dislodge child and gently tosses her to her parents. Parents: (are staring into each others eyes and so do not catch their offspring) Bez: Ewww! (scrubbing at wound) If I become a vampire, I'm going to kill someone. *simultaneously* Edward and Bella: Oh your so beautiful/handsome, my most perfect wondrous wonderful vampire person. (begin to kiss) Matrix: Am I the only one who thinks this is so wrong? Jacob: (scuttles over to renesmee) Oh are you okay? Mutant: (crying) The mean lizard thing threw me! I'm gonna bite him! (charges at Thande) Jacob: (restrains her) No! That guy wouldn't taste good. *Separately* Bez: Thats it. I have a bone to pick with you guys. (edward and bella continue to kiss) Ahem. Excuse me. Hey! (Throws pine cone at them. It hits edward in the forehead.) Oh whatever. (turns to Jacob and renesmee.) You'll do. Jacob: (still restraining child.) Huh? Renesmee: I'm gonna bite him! (gnashes teeth) Bez: (Sighs) First of all, you need to clarify some things. (gestures at edward and bella) why? I mean of all the possible things the universe could have spun out, why this? Jacob: To be honest, I'm not entirely sure. If you were to ask for my opinion- Bez: Which I'm not. Jacob: -then I would say it's destiny. Bez: You're an idiot. (looks back over at edward and bella) (disgusted expression) Matrix, separate them. Matrix: (relieved expression) With pleasure. (Walks over to them. sweeps his arm out and gives them a good whack. edward flies into a tree several meeters away, fully imbedding himself into the bark. Bella flies into a nearby pond) Sigma: You didn't need to do it so harshly. Matrix: What, are you on their side now? Sigma: No! I just...oh nevermind. Bez: There. Now, where were we? Oh right, your little destiny spiel. It's crap. And you know what's even more crappy? (gestures at bella and edward, now in equally bad positions) Them. One, vampires do not marry humans. THEY EAT THEM. And they like it. And for that matter, so do you. Don't give me any crap about vegetarian this or vegetarian that. Blood is blood no matter how you slice it. Edward: (has dislodged himself from the tree) How dare you attack my perfectness! How dare you! (pouts with hands on hips) Thande: You are not perfect. Edward: What?! And just who are you, Mr. Scalyface? Thande: You are not perfect. Edward: Stop saying that! Stop it! (stomps) If you don't appologize right now, I'll be very cross! renesmee: (has succeeded in escaping from jacob. she charges at Thande once more.) Aaaaiiiiiieeeee! Alien blood! (Attempts to stick fang into Thande's calf) Thande: (kicks out sharply. child flies across clearing and into Bella, who has finally succeeded in climbing from the pond. They both fly backward into the pond.) Thande: (disgusted expression) Filthy thing. Edward: Ooooh, now you've done it! Now I'm going to get you! (starts forward) Bez: Now, now, lets not damage the fragile vampire. (Steps between Thande and edward) Edward: Get out of my way! (swats Bez out of his way.) Thande: (glaring) Idiot. (Grabs edward by the throat and throws him into the forest) Sigma and Matrix: Yes! Thande: (walks over to Bez and helps her up.) Bez: (yelling in edwards general direction) Stupid freak! (turns to jacob) What, you were just going to watch that? I get chucked into a pile of roots by an egotistical vampire and you just sit there? (starts towards him angrily) I ought to-(grimaces and clutches at side. leans against Thande as she catches her breath) Sigma: (concerned) Bez, are you all right? Bez: (sarcastically) Ya, Sigma, I'm fine. I think I just broke a few ribs, that's all. I also think some of those ribs are poking into things that they shouldnt, but I'm just fine. Sigma: It was just a question, you don't need to get all rude about it. Matrix: (scanning Bez) She's right. (shakes head) I'd fix her up right here, but i don't have the medical supplies. (glares at jacob) I expect you to take full responsibility for this. Jacob: (Dumbly) Wha-at? What did I do? Thande: Nothing. And that is why you must pay. (Notices that Bez has begun to bleed profusely) We need to get her back to the ship. Matrix: (nods) agreed. Do your best to stop the bleeding. Bez: (attempts to remain standing. collapses and passes out after a few minutes) Thande: (catches her as she falls) Sigma and Matrix: (pull out guns) Jacob: But...It's not my fault! Sigma: (angrily) Right. You just didn't do anything about it! ( she marches up to him) You're just as responsible. Jerk! (punches him in the nose) That one's for Bez! (punches him in the stomach) That one's for me! (Begins to walk away. Turns back around and kicks him sharply in the shin) And that ones for being a creep! (Marches back over to Matrix. The group of four leave the clearing, moving at a rapid pace.) Jacob: (alternates clutching at shin, nose, or stomach.) Edward: (stumbles back into clearing) Bella and Renesmee: (emerge from pond, very wet and slimy) *simultaneously* Edward and Bella: Oh my perfect darling those people were so horrid werent they? oh yes, but they went away, now we can be together! *start kissing* Renesmee: But I wanna bite that guy! I'm gonna get him! (starts gnashing teeth) Jacob: (Throws up into a nearby bush) THE END (In case your wondering, Bez does get surgery in time. From then on, the group had a healthy dislike for vampires, werewolves, and anything related to them.)
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Saturday, June 06, 2009
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Here's what might happen if some characters I rp, famous and my own created alike, end up stranded somewhere with the Cullens. Stranded With Vampires Car: stalls Ameh, driving: "Oh, no, not now, please, not now." Melanie: "What's wrong?" Ameh: "Not sure, the gas tank's full." Melanie: shakes her head. Ameh: gets out her cell and calls AMA or some other service for dealing with stranded vehicles. When the call is finished, the occupants of the vehicle decide to get out for some fresh air and time out of their cramped conditions. When they do, there is another vehicle, specifically a Volvo coming up just behind them. It grinds to a hault as well, and a man gets out. Ameh and Melanie don't notice this at first, but the two passengers in the back get out, and notice something strange about the Volvo driver. Pippi: stares for a moment as the man's face and other exposed skin starts sparkling. She quickly turns away to avoid not only the glaring brightness, but to hide the fact she noticed at all. Pippi: covers her mouth and sneezes. Ameh: *Looks back* "Bless you - " then notices Edward Cullen's glitter, "What is that doing in the middle of nowhere?" Then she sees the thing move. "Holy...crap...It's alive!" Bella stumbles out next. Out the back of the Volvo come a dark-complexioned man, that would be Jacob, and a cute little girl who scrambles off his lap, that would be Renesmee. Renesmee: "Can I have some blood now?" Jacob: "Nessie, shhhh!" Bella: "We're out, but maybe we can get some up ahead." Capri: is the last to get out of Ameh's vehicle. Jacob: eyes first Melanie, whose hair style and color are a lot like Bella's, then Capri with her dark complexion. Renesmee: "Don't look at them, look at me and give me some blood." Jacob: "SOrry, honey, your mommy and daddy would be better at helping you get that." Pippi: hears, but can't believe what they're saying. Ameh: gets off the phone. "It could be more than an hour." Bella and Edward: meet in front of the Volvo, and forget about it and everything around them. Edward: "Oh Bella, *Sniff nibble* you smell so good. *Smooch sniff smooch*" Bella: "And I love you, you are so perfectly beautiful!" *Smooch.* Edward and Bella: *Smackersmooch-fest.* Capri: *Mutters in disgust.* "Break it up already. Gah, some people." Melanie: *whispering* "Ameh, that guy's shining." Ameh: nods back. Renesmee: *Decides she likes the look of Ameh, who is blonde and very short for an adult, so looks like a kid from a distance. She runs over to the fairy, shouting.* "Hi! I'm Renesmee!" Ameh: *Surprised smile* "Well, hi there!" Pippi: lookes concerned at Ameh, and shakes her head. Renesmee: "Wanna play?" Ameh: "Uh, I'm sorry, I've forgotten how." Renesmee: "Leach is easy. You just pretend you're wading in a lake, and I'm the leach, so I come up to you and drink your blood!" "Jacob: "Nessie!" Bella and Edward in unison: "You are so beautiful, you are so perfect." *Smooch-fest continued.* Melanie: "Unbelievable!" Pippi, concerned: *Approaching Renesmee.* "We don't play games like that." Renesmee: "I do!" *Giggles.* Before anyone can react, the vampire child takes hold of Ameh and sinks her fangs into her. Ameh: "AAAAAAAA! Help! Get her off me!" *Thrashes wildly but can't remove Renesmee, who is stronger, being a vampire after all.* Renesmee: drinks. Pippi: "Let her go!" *Takes hold of Renesmee and pries her off Ameh.* Melanie and Capri, realizing Pippi has things well in hand, look on, horrified at what they just saw. Renesmee, to Pippi: "Hey!" Pippi: tosses Renesmee aside as gently as she can, Nessie is a child after all. Ameh, shaken and still bleeding: "OMG..." Pippi: holds Ameh protectively, trying to calm her, but is alarmed at how much her friend is bleeding. Manages to get out her cell phone to call emergency, but realizes she won't need to a second later. Capri: gets out her cell and calls 911 while frantically opening the trunk to get out the first aid stuff. When the call is finished, she approaches Pippi and Ameh. Starts administering to the injury the best she can manage, it being an artery bleed. Renesmee: "Mmm," *Sniffs and dares to wander too close to Capri.* Jacob: "Nessie, darling, no!" Capri, looking around at Jacob's alarmed call, sees Renesmee behind her, and unlike Pippi, she doesn't handle it gently. She elbows Renesmee violently, causing her to lose her balance and fall backward. Renesmee: "Waah!" Capri, horrified and disgusted: *Glares daggers over her shoulder and shouts at Renesmee.* "Try that again and I'll wring your disgusting little cannibalistic neck!" Bella and Edward, still oblivious: *kisskisskisskisskiss smooooooooooooooooch! "I love you!" "You are so perfect!" "Ooooh, you are so hot!" Jacob: *Comes up to Capri and picks up Renesmee.* "Nessie, sweetie, you know better than to play games with strangers, I'm your friend, remember?" Renesmee: "Yes, and you're my very bestest friend in the world! I just need some blood, I'm starving!" Jacob: "there are still some bananas and potato chips in the car, if you were hungry, you could've - " Renesmee, angrily: "I don't want that stuff!" Capri, glaring back at Renesmee: "And I don't want YOU sinking your teeth into me or any of my friends, or anybody within sight, understand!?" Jacob, to Capri: "I'm sorry about this, mam - what shall I call you?" Capri, shortly: "Ms. Monroe." Jacob: "My name's Jacob Black." Capri: *Ignores Jacob's attempt at friendly chat and looks to Pippi.* "I've done all I can, let's get Ameh into the car." Pippi moves to help Capri. Together they wrap Ameh in a blanket, and Pippi gently puts her in the car. They decide to stay with Ameh in the car until the ambulance arrives. Edward and Bella: tongue-kiss. Melanie: *Looks on, then realizes something.* "You're Jacob Black, is that Edward Cullen and Bella Swan?" *indicating Bella and Edward who are shamelessly doing everything just short of THE act in front of their car. "They're gonna swallow each other at this rate." "Jacob, chuckling: "Yes, and you are?" Melanie: "My name is Melanie. If Renesmee wanted some blood, she could've taken some from me instead, Ameh's been through so much." Capri, snapping at Melanie from the car: "NO! Don't even think of it, Melanie!"" Ameh: "Ewww, no!" Pippi: "Melanie, come here and stay in the car with Ameh." Capri, dabbing at her forehead with a tissue: "Where can that blasted ambulance be?" Melanie: gets into the car. Ambulance: arrives. A few more minutes and Ameh is loaded on a stretcher and taken to the nearest hospital. Capri, to Melanie: "I don't care how cute or hungry that little kid is, don't EVER offer her your blood again, do you understand?" Melanie, nodding: "I just feel bad about what she did to Ameh, and that I didn't stop it...Again." *bursts into silent tears* Capri: *Puts arm around Melanie* "That wasn't your fault, it happened so fast that no one, least of all Ameh had any idea this was going to happen." Pippi: "That's true, Melanie, I thought something was very off about the little girl, but didn't know she would move so quickly and literally sink her teeth into someone." Melanie: "She's not just any little girl,, now that I know she's being taken care of by that man, actually werewolf Jacob Black, she's a baby vampire, and her father and mother are Edward and Bella Cullen." Capri: *groans in displeasure, and tries not to look all that rattled. Pippi, nodding, eyes narrowing: "Like in 'Twilight'?" Melanie: "Yes." Jacob: *Taps on the window* "Ms. Monroe?" Capri, scowling back: "What's keeping you lot here?" Jacob: "We ran out of gas." Capri, sighing and gritting her teeth: "Great, just great!" Jacob: "You wouldn't happen to know where the nearest zoo or pet shop is, would you?" Melanie: "Ewww!" Capri, sarcastically: "Oh, sure, I know this place like the back of my hand, and how to fix this car, and how to gas up your car even though we're out in the middle of nowhere... *Exploding* Of course I don't know where the nearest zoo is!" Pippi, to Jacob: "If you walk in any direction long enough, you might find something." *Puts a hand on Capri's shoulder to help her calm down. Melanie: laughs at Pippi's wry sense of humor. Capri: still doesn't crack a smile. Jacob: picks up Renesmee again and holds her tenderly. Renesmee: clings to Jacob. Jacob, giving Renesmee a very affectionate look: "It's okay baby girl, I'll give you some blood." *indicates where he wants her to feed* Renesmee: bites into Jacob and starts drinking. Melanie: "Eww, gross!" Capri: *Beginning to freak, shaking tightly clenched fist at Jacob and Renesmee, shouting. "Go away! Get outa my sight!" Pippi: *Touches the panicking fairy's shoulder* "Take it easy, Capri...I'll be right back." *Opens the car door* Capri: "Be careful!" Pippi: "I will, don't worry." *Gets out of the car and closes the door, then walks around to the side of the car Jacob and Renesmee are on and approaches them.*. "Ms. Monroe's too upset to speak with you, and I can't exactly blame her. But I'm upset with you people for another reason - this imprinting business is indecent." Capri: "Stay in the car, Mel." *Gets out and follows Pippi.* Jacob: "I know some people are upset about it, but it's the way things are done in our culture of vampires and werewolves." Pippi: "Of course that's how it's done in your - society, as is blood-drinking, which is repulsive in another way, but she's just a child. *indicating Renesmee* Jacob: "I can't help it, she's so beautiful." "Pippi: "And she's an extention of her mother, who you couldn't have." Jacob: "She has solved all our problems, miss, - I'm sorry, I didn't get your name?" Pippi: says her name. Jacob: "Because of her, Edward and I are friends now, and she and I - " Capri: looks on the verge of getting sick. Pippi: "Yes, I get it, Mr. Black, I just don't agree with it. and please, don't give me some speech about how non-vampires and non-werewolves need to be more tolerant and accepting. You might as well be telling all mice to allow any and all cats to get near them." Renesmee: *Stops drinking to give Pippi a bemused look.* "That's funny, cats eat mice!" Pippi: "My point exactly." Jacob: "But some of us werewolves and vampires get along even if we're supposed to be enemies." Pippi: "Of course you do, the reason werewolves and vampires are historically enemies in the first place is likely because of competition over food, that would be us, human prey, the thing you both have in common." Jacob: "Damn, you're smart, and brave." Renesmee: "Strong too. I don't know how you managed to stop me from drinking your friend's blood, I'm stronger than most people who aren't vampires and I'm just a kid, so when I get older, I'll be even stronger!" Capri: scowling and gritting teeth. Jacob, to Renesmee: "Yeah, she probably couldn't stand up to Edward or Bella though. "Hey Edward! Come over here, I found a human you might want to take on!" Pippi: *shaking her head.* "Nothing quite like dodging the issue..." Edward: *Smooch* "Oh I say, really?" disengages from Bella for a moment and walks over to Jacob and Pippi, looks at Pippi, "Do I dazzle you?" Pippi: *Covers face and sneezes.* "A little too much." Capri: glares at Edward and steps forward, taking a defensive posture. Edward: "So, what, may I ask, shall I call you?" Pippi: says her name again.. Capri: "Don't call me at all." Edward: "Ah yes, Pippi - I think I may have heard about you." Jacob: "I wonder which one of you could beat the other at arm-wrestling?" Edward, guffawing: "Me, easily, she might be strong for a human, but I am a vampire after all!" Capri, to Edward: "If you do anything to hurt her, I'll - " Pippi: *Turns toward her sufficiently worried friend.* "It's all right, I'll be fine as long as he sticks to wrestling." *Then looks back at Edward.* "Well, what are you waiting for, have at it." Edward: grabs Pippi's wrist and tries to bend her arm back in a wrestle. Pippi: *Arm-wrestles back, winning the contest easily, then pitches Ed Cullen sending him flying so he lands on the roof of his Volvo.* "You were saying, Mr. Cullen?" Edward: "What the!? Aaaaagh!" Jacob: "Holy shart!" Capri: bursts out laughing.* Bella: "Edward!" *Runs over to Pippi.* "How dare you man-handle my most coolest, perfect husband!" Capri, warning Bella away with a hand: "That's close enough!" Pippi: "Your 'most coolest perfect husband,' does that mean you have more than one now?" Bella: "That isn't funny!" Pippi: "What's really not funny, Ms. Cullen, is the child grooming, blood-drinking and male-domination this vamp and werewolf society practices, and that you're okay with it." Capri: nods emphatically. Bella: "I uh, hadn't thought of that. But it's no reason to hurt my Edward!" Edward: climbs off the roof of his car, looking a bit miffed. Pippi: "It's hardly my fault if Jacob and Edward's idea turned out to bruise your husband's ego a little." Bella: "Why you - you - you - " *Lunges toward Pippi.* Capri: hits Bella with a magic blast that knocks her flat. Bella: "Aaaaaaa!" Capri, glowering at Bella and Edward: "You'll get a lot worse if you come anywhere near me or my friends again!" Bella, getting up: "Edward won't drink your blood, he's a vegetarian vampire!" Capri: "Bullcrap! There's no such thing. Anyway, what about the rest of you? That monster of yours already tried to suck one of my friends dry!" Renesmee: *Pointing at Capri and looking at Bella* And she shoved me and made me fall!" Bella, incensed, glaring at Capri: "How could you do that to my daughter!?" Capri, rolling her eyes: "Nevermind, you're too young to understand..." Bella: "She's an innocent child!" Capri: *glaring, raising her voice to match Bella's intense outrage.* "Innocent nothing - she could've killed one of my friends!" "Edward: "There is such thing as a vegetarian vampire. I only drink animal blood, so I'm a vegetarian, so more perfect than other vampires." Pippi: "Since when is animal blood considered vegetation?" Edward and Bella: *Looking blankly back at Pippi.* "Uh...Um...Duh...Uh, uh, well, uh," *Staring back and forth at each other, still stumped, then at Pippi again.* Pippi: "Calling yourself a non-cannibalistic vampire would be more accurate." Edward: "Okay, you win, it's just that it sounds really cool to call myself a vegetarian vampire." Capri: "No, it just sounds totally idiotic, and I meant what I said, keep your distance!" *blasts Edward this time, then Bella again, and then Jacob* Edward: *Screams and becoming frightened at Capri's display of magic power.* "I don't know what we're dealing with, but let's get out of here!" The cullens and Jacob: scramble into the Volvo, but then realize they are nearly out of gas. Tow service: Shows up, and Ameh's car is towed away to the nearest town to be fixed, and the girls are driven to town as well, leaving Edward, Bella, Renesmee and Jacob behind.
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Saturday, June 06, 2009
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Beware of anyone who wears their "compassion"/"caring"/"kindness" on their sleeve, chances are they are really anything but... "I'm so compassionate That I will scream to anyone I can about how I know in my purist heart of hearts that you must be an uncaring animal abuser or that you don't love animals every time you disagree with me and refuse to join me in any part of the animal rights cause from promoting spay/neuter to shutting down breeders, from banning animals as pets to promoting the change of "ownership" to "guardianship" and doing away with pet sales in favor of "furkid adoptions"
"I'm so compassionate That I'll call you an unfit, irresponsible, neglectful or even abusive pet owner or breeder when you do things differently from me where your animals are concerned.
"I'm so compassionate That I'd much rather believe every made-up and staged animal abuse tale than do anything to help those who have been falsely accused of animal abuse and victimized far more by their accusers than any animal could have been in their care."
"I'm so compassionate That I take in all sorts of strange and stray animals and put previous pets at risk of catching disease, but if I think you are breeding too many of your own healthy pets, I'll call you a mill."
"I'm so compassionate That I'd rather see a world without pets than a world of happier fellow human beings and animals, because I know that animals are always suffering in the company of human beings!"
"I'm so compassionate That I'd rather see the human race wiped out than another animal breeding in the care of a human being."
"I'm so compassionate and I care oh so very much That I'll support or commit acts of stealing your animals, or acquire them from you legally and then lie, claming them as my own or as "rescues" or "liberated" and I'll slander you into the ground as an animal abuser so everybody will worship me and my 'compassion' and hate you forever as an animal abuser!"
"I'm so compassionate and caring that I'll gladly put my own life and the lives of every other person on the road or in the car with me in danger by swerving and hitting a tree or another person just to avoid hitting a stray cat or squirrel on the road."
"I'm so kind-hearted That if I think you are not doing right by the animals, I will get my animal activist friends to bombard you with hate-mail and/or try to post the most obnoxious or heinous stuff around the net in your name. I will make a nuissance of myself online by sending animal welfare chain letters that demonize animal breeders and owners. If you block mmy attempts, I will sign your email address up without your permission and under insulting nicknames to animal extremist news letters, dating, porn and other sites I may like but you obviously think are sick and lame."
"I'm so compassionate That I sit dry-eyed through an account of a missing child, the death of a parent, or hearing about traumas that people suffer such as child abuse, rape, murder, but my eyes well up and brim over and I start heaving great sobs of sorrow when I think of those poor, poor bees being raped and forced to breed by the beekeepers to make honey, and the poor dogs and cats who are pimped out by breeders because PEta told me so!"
"I'm so compassionate That every time there's some kind of natural disaster, I cry and scream for everyone to help the animals because I really couldn't care less about the human beings who are killed or had their lives devastated. and I blame humans for everything that has ever gone wrong with the environment and climate anyway."
"I'm so compassionate That my pleas and efforts to help humans reunite with their pets after a disaster is not out of concern for the people, but only for the animals who I feel incredibly sorry for.
"I'm so compassionate That I look at a human tragedy and scheme up the most ludicrous ways to exploit them, all so I can tell you how to live your life. I really don't care that people were maimed or suffered terrifying, prolonged, agonizing deaths, I see the shooting of a cow or bear, or the squashing of a cockroach to be far worse."
"I'm so compassionate That I see victims and survivors of terrible events as worth less than chickens!"
"I'm so compassionate That I'll force a vegan diet on my cat.
"I'm so compassionate that I'll do my best to traumatize your kids into a vegan diet and alienate them from you by telling them you're a murderer because you own a fur coat or anything made of leather."
"I'm so compassionate That I'd like to force you to eat a diet of things you hate even though you might rather starve and I don't care if veggies give you bad gas, bloating, and allergic reactions."
"I'm so compassionate That I'll call you a child abuser for feeding eggs, dairy, and especially meat to your children."
"I'm so compassionate That I'll threaten to poison you and your kids or may actually go through with it because if you eat animals you deserve to get sick and die a horrible agonizing death."
"I'm so compassionate That I'd like to shoot the kids who shoot ducks."
"I'm so compassionate That whenever I hear about a bear, cougar, or tiger attacking, killing, and partially eating a person, all my tears are for the animal who must've been starving or encroached upon and I feel no sorrow for the hapless human or their family.
"I'm so compassionate That I'd sooner save extinct wild dangerous tigers than humans who are overpopulating the world like a cancer. I'd rather save a man-eating tiger and put people including children at risk of suffering a grisly painful death. After all, the loss of one child is nothing and the world absolutely needs tigers living in their proper habitats.
"I'm so concerned, caring and loving That I'd rather animals go extinct in the wild than live in the care of humans other than myself."
"I'm so compassionate that I think it's okay to kill lab workers, slaughter house workers, and doctors that perform abortions."
"I'm so compassionate That I rejoice in the suffering and/or death of anybody I consider an animal abuser, from lab workers to hunters to exotic schefs."
"I'm so compassionate That I get a huge belly laugh whenever an animal kills a person I hate and judge as an animal abuser, even if I never met them."
"I'm so compassionate That I admire and feel for an individual who I consider to be noble and caring for refusing to eat meat, but I gladly overlook the fact this person killed and maimed a countless number of people by an exploding bomb.
"I'm so compassionate That as a member of law enforcement, I'll tread lightly around killers and rapists and let them off with a slap on the wrist, but I'll fake social visits in order to get into a home and persecute, abuse, torture and bully to the fullest extent of the law and then some - any pet owner who owns the wrong thing or is disabled or too poor to spend scads on their animals! And I'll be proud of myself for tasing and half-killing some poor disabled woman for owning some animal I don't want her to, and not to my ridiculously high standards!"
"I'm so compassionate That I'll rob the grave of a family member and steal their remains until the breeder of guinea pigs in that family stops breeding rodents for lab experiments!"
"I'm so compassionate That I think cutting down a tree is more grievous than selling a child to a brothel."
"I'm so compassionate That I think you deserve to get raped if you ever owned or wore fur."
"I'm so compassionate That I wish some disease or disaster would wipe out all of the human race except for myself, of course, and then I get what's left!"
"I'm so compassionate That I'm telling you I am and you must believe me."
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Saturday, June 06, 2009
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Here's an extended list of ar/aw quotes. Quotes from Animal Rights, Welfare and Protectionists "We, in the green movement, aspire to a cultural model in which killing a forest will be considered more contemptible and more criminal than the sale of 6-year-old children to Asian brothels." -- Carl Amery "If an 'animal abuser' were killed in a research lab firebombing, I would unequivocally support that, too." Gary Yourofsky, founder of Animals Deserve Adequate Protection Today and Tomorrow (ADAPTT), now employed as PeTA's national lecturer The animal rights movement is " part of a revolutionary process aimed at restructuring the major institution of society...." Dr. Morgan, Mobilization for Animals (from his book, Love and Anger, An animal rights organizers' handbook). "If you haven't given voluntary human extinction much thought before, the idea of a world with no people in it may seem strange. But, if you give it a chance, I think you might agree that the extinction of Homo sapiens would mean survival for millions, if not billions, of Earth-dwelling species ... Phasing out the human race will solve every problem on earth, social and environmental." --"Les U. Knight" (pseudonum), "Voluntary Human Extinction," Wild Earth, Vol. 1, No. 2, (Summer 1991), p. 72. "The extinction of the human species may not only be inevitable but a good thing....This is not to say that the rise of human civilization is insignificant, but there is no way of showing that it will be much help to the world in the long run." -- Economist editorial "Phasing out the human race will solve every problem on earth, social and environmental." -- Dave Forman, Founder of Earth First! "Man is the most dangerous, destructive, selfish, and unethical animal on earth." Michael W. Fox, Scientific Director and former Vice President, Humane Society of the United States, as quoted in Robert James Bidinotto" "Animal Rights: A New Species of Egalitarianism," The Intellectual Activist, September 14, 1983, p. 3. "Humans have grown like a cancer. We're the biggest blight on the face of the earth." Ingrid Newkirk, PeTA's founder, president and former national director, Readers Digest, June 1990 "Humans are exploiters and destroyers, self-appointed world autocrats around whom the universe seems to revolve." --Sydney Singer, director, the Good Shepherd Foundation, "The Neediest of All Animals," The Animals Agenda, Vol. 10, No. 5 (June 1990), p. 50. "It?s terrible to have to say this. World population must be stabilized, and to do that we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. This is so horrible to contemplate that we shouldn?t even say it. But the general situation in which we are involved is lamentable." Jacques-Yves Cousteau, environmentalist and documentary maker "I suspect that eradicating smallpox was wrong. It played an important part in balancing ecosystems." John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal "We?re at 6 billion people on the Earth, and that?s roughly three times what the planet should have. About 2 billion is optimal." Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University population biologist "It is cosmically unlikely that the developed world will choose to end its orgy of fossil-energy consumption, and the Third World its suicidal consumption of landscape. Until such time as Homo sapiens should decide to rejoin nature, some of us can only hope for the right virus to come along." David M. Graber, research biologist for the National Park Service "My own doubts came when DDT was introduced. In Guyana, within two years, it had almost eliminated malaria. So my chief quarrel with DDT, in hindsight, is that it has greatly added to the population problem." Alexander King, founder of the Malthusian Club of Rome "The world has a cancer, and that cancer is man." Merton Lambert, former spokesman for the Rockefeller Foundation "Honorable representatives of the great saurians of older creation, may you long enjoy your lilies and rushes, and be blessed now and then with a mouthful of terror-stricken man by way of a dainty!" John Muir, founder of the Sierra Club "If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels." Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh, leader of the World Wildlife Fund "Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?" Maurice Strong, U.N. environmental leader "A total population of 250?300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal." Ted Turner, CNN founder, UN supporter, and environmentalist "I got the impression that instead of going out to shoot birds, I should go out and shoot the kids who shoot birds." Paul Watson, a founder of Greenpeace "I am not a morose person, but I would rather not be here. I don't have any reverence for life, only for the entities themselves. I would rather see a blank space where I am. This will sound like fruitcake stuff again but at least I wouldn't be harming anything." Ingrid Newkirk, founder, president and former national director, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PeTA), as quoted in Chip Brown, "She's a Portrait of Zealotry in Plastic Shoes," Washington Post, November 13, 1983, p. B10. "We have wished, we ecofreaks, for a disaster or for a social change to come and bomb us into Stone Age, where we might live like Indians in our valley, with our localism, our appropriate technology, our gardens, our homemade religion -- guilt-free at last!" -- Stewart Brand (writing in the Whole Earth Catalogue) "If radical environmentalists were to invent a disease to bring human populations back to sanity, it would probably be something like AIDS" -- Earth First! Newsletter "Cannibalism is a "radical but realistic solution to the problem of overpopulation." -- Lyall Watson, The Financial Times, 15 July 1995 "Torturing a human being is almost always wrong, but it is not absolutely wrong." --Peter Singer, as quoted in Josephine Donovan, "Animal Rights and Feminist Theory," Signs: Journal of Women in Culture and Society, Winter 1990, p. 357. "Man should not feel so superior to animals. He has not the right to." Adolph Hitler, 1939 "Six million Jews died in concentration camps, but six billion broiler chickens will die this year in slaughter houses." -Ingrid Newkirk, President, PETA, The Washington Post, November 13, 1983. ?There are about 2,000 people prepared at any one time to take action for us ... The children of targeted scientists and executives are enjoying a lifestyle built on the blood and abuse of innocent animals. Why should they be allowed to close the door on that and sit down and watch TV and enjoy themselves when animals are suffering and dying because of the actions of the family breadwinner? They are a justifiable target for protest.? Robin Webb, ALF leader, Sunday Herald ( Scotland) Sept. 19, 2004 "The employees? are not good people, and do not deserve to enjoy the Holiday season. Let's make this one so stressful, they won't be able to balance their hot cider between shaking hands." E-mail message dated December 15, 2002 from (SHAC) Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty "I would be overjoyed when the first scientist is killed by a liberation activist." Vivien Smith, Former ALF Spokesperson, USA Today, September 3, 1991 "Every time a police agency pepper-sprays or uses pain-compliance holds against our people, their cars should burn." Rodney Coronado, convicted felon in the 1992 Michigan State University firebombing and beneficiary of PeTA funds, "Conference on Organized Resistance," American University, January 26, 2003 "It doesn't matter if there are people in there. They're irrelevant! It doesn't matter about the police. They're irrelevant! It doesn't matter about the high fences. They're irrelevant! It doesn't matter about the doors. They're irrelevant! It doesn't matter about the locks. They're irrelevant! What matters is our brothers and sisters in there. Smash everything when the cops aren't here! Get them out!" ?"We'll sweep the police aside. We'll sweep the government aside. We'll sweep Huntingdon Life Sciences aside, and we'll raze this evil place right to the ground!" Robin Webb, British Animal Rights Terrorist, Speaking at Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty, (SHAC) rally, East Millstone, New Jersey, outside a medical research facility, December 1, 2002 "Hit them in their personal lives, visit their homes ? Actively target U.S. military establishments within the United States... strike hard and fast and retreat in anonymity. Select another location, strike again hard and fast and quickly retreat in anonymity ... Do not get caught. DO NOT GET CAUGHT. Do not get sent to jail. Stay alert, keep active, and keep fighting." Craig Rosenbraugh, radical animal rights spokesperson for terrorism and a recipient of PeTA funds, in Open letter to activists, published on the Independent Media Center website, March 17, 2003 "In light of the events on September 11, my country has told me that I should not cooperate with terrorists. I therefore am refusing to cooperate with members of Congress who are some of the most extreme terrorists in history." Craig Rosebraugh, animal rights radical, spokesperson for animal and earth related crimes and recipient of PETA funds, statement following Rosebraugh's subpoena to testify before a Congressional subcommittee on eco-terrorism, November 1, 2001 "I think food producers should appreciate that we're only targeting their property. Because frankly I think it's time to start targeting them." Rodney Coronado, convicted felon for the 1992 firebombing of Michigan State University research facility (57 months in federal prison, 3 years probation), speaking at the "Conference on Organized Resistance," American University, January 26, 2003. "The right to have children should be a marketable commodity, bought and traded by individuals but absolutely limited by the state." - Kenneth Boulding, originator of the "Spaceship Earth" concept (as quoted by William Tucker in Progress and Privilege, 1982) "I'm not only uninterested in having children. I am opposed to having children. Having a purebred human baby is like having a purebred dog; it is nothing but vanity, human vanity." Ingrid Newkirk, PeTA's founder and president, New Yorker magazine, April 23, 2003 "There is so much blood on this chicken-killer's hands, a little more on his business suit won't hurt." Bruce Friedrich, PETA Director of Vegan Outreach, PETA news release, June 23, 2003. "To give a child animal products is a form of child abuse." Neal Barnard, Medical Advisor, PETA, from Bernard's book, Food For Life "Serving a burger to your family today, knowing what we know, constitutes child abuse. You might as well give them weed killer." Toni Vernelli European Campaign Director, PETA, PETA Europe news release, "Meat Expo Declared A 'Danger Zone' By Vegetarians: PETA Targets Smithfield 2000" November 27, 2000 "If someone is killing, on a regular basis, thousands of animals, and if that person can only be stopped in one way by the use of violence, then it is certainly a morally justifiable solution." Jerry Vlasak, spokesman for Animal Defense League, Penn & Teller Bullsh*t, April 1, 2004 "Arson, property destruction, burglary and theft are 'acceptable crimes' when used for the animal cause." -Alex Pacheco, Director, PETA "Grocers who sell veal have no idea what's coming ? If they have me arrested, that's good for me, and bad for them. We have 75,000 members of our club who aren't going to like it". Dee Crenshaw, Organizer. Farm Sanctuary, Alexandria (LA) Daily Town Talk, March 18, 2001 "Although fish and chip shops haven't been targeted before so far as I can remember, they would be considered legitimate targets." Robin Webb, UK Spokesperson for animal rights terrorism, The UK Guardian December 12, 2001 "It is dangerous to engage in even the most innocuous-seeming discourse with the FBI/ Homeland Security/ a local detective?" Ingrid Newkirk, PeTA's founder and president, Letter to activists posted on Yahoo, March 17, 2003 "My dream is that people will come to view eating an animal as cannibalism." Henry Spira, director, Animal Rights International, as quoted in Barnaby J. Feder, "Pressuring Purdue," New York Times Magazine, November 26, 1989, p. 192. "Get arrested. Destroy the property of those who torture animals. Liberate those animals interned in the hellholes our society tolerates." Jerry Vlasak, Animal Defense League, Internet post to AR Views list, June 21, 1996 "Getting arrested is fun." Dan Mathews, PeTA's director of international campaigns quoted in Orange County Weekly (CA), July 25 - 31, 2003. "Believe me, you don't have to worry about prison. I've been there -- it's a doggle. You can put your feet up and recharge your batteries, and go back out there when you're released and start all over again. You can go to education to read up. I mean someone, someone actually read up on electronics while they were in prison, and went out and started doing electronic incendiary devices. Use your time inside to teach yourself!" Robin Webb, British Spokesperson for Animal Rights Terrorism, speaking at SHAC rally, Edison, New Jersey, November 30, 2002 "Here's a little model I'm going to show you here. I didn't have any incense, but -- this is a crude incendiary device. It is a simple plastic jug, which you fill with" *instructions on how to commit an arsen deleted* "and you destroy the profits that are brought about through animal and earth abuse. That's about -- two dollars. " Rodney Coronado, animal rights felon for the 1992 Michigan State University fireboming, and recipient of PeTA funds, speaking at "National conference on Organized Resistance, American University, Washington DC, January 26, 2003. Note: Coronado pled guilty to the charges stemming from the 1992 MSU arson case but even so, PeTA donated $45,200 to the Coronado Support Committee in 1995. During the previous year, while Coronado was still on the loose and living underground, PeTA granted a loan (not yet repaid) to Coronado's father for $25,000. "When you're a 20-something grassroots activist, and you're deciding how to spend your time and money to make a difference, it makes a lot of sense to cause a million in damage with just $100 of investment. That's a better return than any other form of activism I've been involved in." Rodney Coronado, LA Weekly, August 29, 2003. "Setting fire to the feed truck falls within the work they the ALF do. It was most likely done in an effort to cause the most damage possible to the farm without hurting anyone or any animals. What these farmers do to chickens is terrorism -- what we do is not." David Barbarash, Associated Press story filed after the arson of a poultry truck in Indiana caused $100,000 in damage, July 3, 2000 "I will be the last person to condemn ALF the Animal Liberation Front." Ingrid Newkirk, PeTA's president and founder, The New York Daily News, December 7, 1997 "We have found that civil disobedience and direction action has been powerful in generating massive attention in our communities ... and has been very effective in traumatizing our targets." -J.P. Goodwin, Committee to Abolish the Fur Trade, National Animal Rights Convention '97, June 27, 1997. "In a war you have to take up arms and people will get killed, and I can support that kind of action by petrol bombing and bombs under cars, and probably at a later stage, the shooting of vivisectors on their doorsteps. It's a war, and there's no other way you can stop vivisectors." -Tim Dailey, British Animal Liberation Front Leader "In England we do have some problems with legislation that prevents us from buying certain products, but over here you don't have the same excuse. You've heard Black Panther leader Mr. Bobby Seale: you're allowed to bear arms. Why are you here now listening to me? You can go out and get animal liberation! Robin Webb, British Animal Rights Terrorist, speaking at a Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty (SHAC) rally, Edison, New Jersey, November 30, 2002 "Today's terrorist is tomorrow's freedom fighter." Kevin Kjonaas, National Director and spokesperson, Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty USA (SHAC USA) Animal Rights 2002 Convention, June 30, 2002 "The liberation of animal life can only be achieved through radical transformation of human consciousness and the overthrow of the existing power structures which human and animal abuse are entrenched." Trans-Species Unlimited (Readers Digest, June 1990) "If enough people are determined to stand up to an issue, you know what? It's gonna get solved. Saying that human concerns outweigh animal concerns is just more bullshit." Chris DeRose, Last Chance for Animals: SHAC rally, Edison, New Jersey, November 30, 2002 "We're a new breed of activism. We're not your parents' Humane Society. We're not Friends of Animals. We're not EarthSave. We're not Greenpeace. We come with a new philosophy. We hold the radical line. We will not compromise! We will not apologize, and we will not relent! ... Vivisection is not an abstract concept. It's a deed, done by individuals, who have weaknesses, who have breaking points, and who have home addresses!" Kevin Kjonaas, animal extremist and National Leader-spokesperson for Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty USA, (SHAC-USA) rally, East Millstone, New Jersey, outside a medical research facility, December 1, 2002 "Our philosophy is to go for one company at a time, and go for its finances. If we had gone down and protested outside HLS every day for the last five years we would have got nowhere," Greg Avery, SHAC, BBC Online, October 5, 2004 "The $10,000 microscope was destroyed in about 10 seconds with a steel wrecking bar we purchased ... for less than $5. We consider that a pretty good return on our investment.? ALF memo about destruction of lab at U. of Oregon Oct. 1986 If a car being blown up in a driveway or animals being liberated from a lab scares them, then I would say that fear pales by comparison to the fear that the animals have every day. The kind of true violence that these animals endure at the hands of people at Huntingdon leaves me with little sympathy. Kevin Kjonaas, National Director and spokesperson, Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty USA, (SHAC USA); spokesperson, Animal Defense League; New York organizer, Viva! USA; as quoted in A harsh animal-rights campaign targets NJ firm, workers. Chris Mondics, The Philadelphia Inquirer, July 14, 2002. " behind every corporation there are people who have homes and liability and privacy issues." Kevin Kjonaas, (SHAC) Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty leader and spokesperson, quoted in the Mercury News, San Jose, California, May 10, 2003 "Last night in San Diego a bunch of townhouses were burned down, and reporters from two corporate TV stations just asked me, 'What good does that do your movement?'... If that hadn't happened, you wouldn't be here tonight. People willing to risk their lives to protect the environment by destroying buildings built on the habitat of endangered species make people take notice... Fire is a very sacred power, one of the key elements of our planet...We use fire to cleanse ourselves, and when we address buildings and institutions that have no other purpose but to destroy life, fire is the only way to stop them. When people ask if someday someone might get hurt by one of our actions, I ask them why they don't get so concerned about the people who are killing animals for a living. That is what the terrorism in this society is. Destroying property to protect life is the most sacred thing we can do." Rod Coronado, Earth Liberationist, convicted arsonist in 1992 Michigan State University firebombing and beneficiary of PeTA funds, speaking "Revolution Summer" in Hillcrest, CA (a suburb of San Diego), August 1, 2003, the day a $50 million fire credited to the Earth Liberation Front torched an apartment construction project, Zenger's Newsmagazine, 2003. "A lot of people think that -- Oh my god, that's going too far, you know. People can support bringing animals out of labs, but they can't support arson. Well, I'm sorry. I'm not here to, to please people. I'm not here to win the support of people. I'm here to represent my animal relations who are suffering this very second. And I don't care what anybody says about what I do to achieve their freedom." Rodney Coronado, convicted felon for 1992 Michigan State University firebombing and PeTA beneficiary, speaking at SHAC rally, Edison, New Jersey, November 30, 2002 "We have a 100 per cent success rate. Whoever we choose to target is finished." Heather James, SHAC co-leader , London Evening Standard, March 29, 2004 "Huntingdon Life Sciences is going to close. You can't close it with those evil riot police there, but they're not always here! It's not always daylight ... Come here when it's dark, when there's no moon, with people you can trust! There are individuals in there who need you to do that! But when you get them out, don't leave the equipment or the building standing either! Smash it! Smash it! Smash it once and for all!" Robin Webb, British Animal Rights Terrorist, speaking at a Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty (SHAC) rally, East Millstone, New Jersey, outside a medical research facility, December 1, 2002 "So-called activists who talk to the police disgust me, and I think one of the major reasons the animal liberation movement has not made more significant gains is because many activists do not understand the evolutionary nature of this movement. We're fighting a major war, defending animals and our very planet from human greed and destruction. There is no room for collaborators." David Barbarash, Spokesperson for the Animal Liberation Front (ALF) No Compromise, the journal of the Animal Liberation Front "KFC has no excuse for refusing to adopt these basic, minimal animal-welfare standards ... After two years of fruitless negotiations with the company, we?re trying a more personal approach." Bruce Friedrich, PETA Director quoted in August 19, 2003 PeTA press release announcing PeTA's intent to dispatch activists to Louisville, KFC's headquarters, to interact with the community, churches, institutions, neighbors of KFC's president, and CEO, etc., in order to get KFC to submit to PeTA's demands. "Sometimes breaking the law, and sometimes pushing the boundaries of what's told to us is ? what is right and wrong, doesn't matter. And it comes down to questioning what is effective and what is not effective." Kevin Kjonaas, Spokesperson and National Director for Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty USA (SHAC USA), speaking at "Animal Rights 2002" convention, June 30, 2002 "It's not about loving animals. It's about fighting injustice. My whole goal is for humans to have as little contact as possible with animals." Gary Yourofsky, founder of Animals Deserve Adequate Protection Today and Tomorrow (ADAPTT), now employed as PeTA's national lecturer "Bank executives have had their yachts sunk behind their houses. Cars have been blown up; windows have been smashed; offices have been stormed. We're tired of yelling at buildings -- no one cares. We're tired of yelling at executives while they're in those buildings, and allowing them to go home and forget about us who are out there that afternoon -- we're going to their homes. We're doing what's effective. We're shutting this company down." Lauren James, Organizer, "Conference on Organized Resistance," American University, January 26, 2003 "I am convinced that we can shut down a lot of these animal abuse industries whether the public agrees with it or not. And whether these industries are shut down by violent or non-violent acts in the end, to me, doesn't really matter. David Barbarash, Spokesperson for the Animal Liberation Front (ALF) No Compromise, BBC Documentary, "Beastly Business" (October 1, 2000) "We encourage others to find a local Earth raper and make them pay for the damages they are inflicting on our communities... Furriers, meat packers, bosses, developers, rich industry leaders are all Earth rapers ? We must inflict economic sabotage on all Earth rapers." Craig Rosenbraugh, recipient of PETA funds, Spokesperson for Earth Liberation Front (ELF) statement, August 1, 1999 "A burning building doesn't help melt people's hearts, but times change and tactics, I'm sure, have to change with them? If you choose to carry out ALF-style actions, I ask you to please not say more than you need to, to think carefully who you trust, to learn all you can about how to behave if arrested, and so to try to live to fight another day." Ingrid Newkirk, PeTA's founder and president, Interview in ALF quarterly Bite Back, February, 2003 "Why should any one of us feel that 'it shouldn't be me taking that brick and chucking it through that window? Why shouldn't I be going to that fur farm down the road and opening up those cages?' It's not hard; it doesn't take a rocket scientist. You don't need a 4-year degree to call in a bomb hoax. These are easy things, and they're things that save animals: And so I want all of you in this room to, A) Question not just what is right and wrong, but what is effective, And B) why can't all of us be doing it? I think the animal rights movement is strong - that's my opinion. But it's time to start flexing our muscles." Kevin Kjonaas, Spokesperson and National Director, Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty USA (SHAC USA) "Animal Rights 2002" convention, June 30, 2002 " I openly hope that it hoof-and-mouth disease comes here. It will bring economic harm only for those who profit from giving people heart attacks and giving animals a concentration camp-like existence. It would be good for animals, good for human health and good for the environment. Ingrid Newkirk, PeTA founder and president, ABC News interview April 2, 2001 "Would I rather the research lab that tests animals is reduced to a bunch of cinders? Yes." Ingrid Newkirk, PeTA's president and founder, New York Daily News, December 7, 1997 "I wish we all would get up and go into the labs and take the animals out or burn them down." -Ingrid Newkirk, President, PETA, National Animal Rights Convention '97, June 27, 1997 "Perhaps the mere idea of receiving a nasty missive will allow animal researchers to empathize with their victims for the first time in their lousy careers. I find it small wonder that the laboratories aren't all burning to the ground. If I had more guts, I'd light a match." Ingrid Newkirk, PeTA founder and president, The Chronicle of Higher Education November 12, 1999 "Even granting that we humans face greater harm than laboratory animals presently endure if ... research on these animals is stopped, the animal rights view will not be satisfied with anything less than total abolition." Tom Regan, The Case for Animal Rights, 1983 "Even painless research is fascism, supremacism." Ingrid Newkirk, PeTA's founder and president, Washington Magazine, August 1986 "If abandoning animal research means that there are some things we cannot learn, then so be it ... We have no basic right ... not to be harmed by those natural diseases we are heir to." -Tom Regan, The Case for Animal Rights, 1983 "Even if animal tests produced a cure for AIDS, 'we'd be against it.'" --Ingrid Newkirk, national director, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PeTA), as quoted in Fred Barnes, "Politics," Vogue, September 1989, p. 542. "If the death of one rat cured all diseases, it wouldn't make any difference to me." -Chris De Rose, Director, Last Chance for Animals "If natural healing is not possible, given the energy of the environment, it may be right for that being to change form. Some people call this death." --Sydney Singer, director, Good Shepherd Foundation, The Earth Religion (Grass Valley, California: ABACE Publications, 1991), p. 52. "If we really believe that animals have the same right to be free from pain and suffering at our hands, then, of course we're going to be, as a movement, blowing things up and smashing windows ... I think it's a great way to bring about animal liberation ... I think it would be great if all of the fast-food outlets, slaughterhouses, these laboratories, and the banks that fund them exploded tomorrow. I think it's perfectly appropriate for people to take bricks and toss them through the windows. ... Hallelujah to the people who are willing to do it." Bruce Friedrich, PeTA's director of Vegan Outreach, Animal Rights Conference, 2001 "Throughout the late '80s, me and a handful of friends just like you people here, we started to break windows, we started to slash tires, we started to rescue animals from factory farms and vivisection breeders, and we graduated to breaking into laboratories ? As long as we emptied the labs of animals, they were still easily replaced. So that's when the ALF in this country, and my cell, started engaging in arson." Rodney Coronado, convicted felon for 1992 Michigan State University firebombing and PeTA funds beneficiary, speaking at SHAC rally, Edison, New Jersey, November 30, 2002 "As a direct-action warrior, it made a lot of sense to me to attack institutions in the fur trade ? we need to destroy them by any means necessary." Rodney Coronado, convicted felon of 1992 Michigan State University firebombing and beneficiary of PeTA funds, "Conference on Organized Resistance," American University, January 26, 2003 "Property destruction is a legitimate political tool called economic sabotage, and it's meant to attack businesses and corporations." David Barbarash, Spokesperson for the Animal Liberation Front (ALF), NPR radio show, "The Connection" January 7, 2002 "Physically shut down financial centers ? Using any means necessary, shut down the national networks of NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, etc. Not just occupations but actually engage in strategies and tactics which knock the networks off the air ? Spread the battle to the ... very heads of government and U.S. corporations ... "When you see the loss of 9 billion animal lives each year, it's inappropriate to hold a sign or pass out a petition. It's appropriate to go out and burn down the factory farm." Joshua Harper, recipient of PETA funds, The Seattle Post-Intelligencer, June 18, 2001 "Damaging the enemy financially is fair game." Alex Pacheco, animal rights radical, PeTA co-founder and one of its original 3 board members, Washington City Paper, December 18, 1987 "Animal liberation, of which the anti-vivisection movement is a part, animal liberation is not a campaign. It is not a struggle. It is a war! It is an all-out bloody war, in which the countless hundreds of millions of casualties have, so far, all been on one side. How can we allow that to continue?" Robin Webb, British spokesperson for animal rights terrorism, speaking at SHAC rally, Edison, New Jersey, November 30, 2002 "I see a spark of hope in every broken window, every torched police car." Joshua Harper, recipient of PeTA funds,The Seattle Post-Intelligencer, June 18, 2001 "Our nonviolent tactics are not as effective. We ask nicely for years and get nothing. Someone makes a threat, and it works." Ingrid Newkirk, PeTA's founder and president, US News and World Report, April 8, 2002 "Getting together three or four friends of mine, we came back a week later to that farm, we broke into the main laboratory, we trashed every single piece of equipment, we stole documents and lists of fur farms across the nation. And we started a fire in an experimental fur farm, an experimental feed building, where they manufactured the experimental diets which were the focus of research at this farm. And that fire destroyed all the equipment, and in the ensuing raid, the raid that happened caused enough damage that six months later that lab was forced to shut down. That was five people, folks -- once again maybe like twelve hundred dollars, a couple weeks of planning, five people. But that wasn't the end. I knew I had to continue, and for the next -- oh gosh, a little over a year -- we took out, one by one, every recipient of what's called the Mink Farmers Research Foundation. It's a foundation whose sole purpose is to aid research to benefit the fur farm industry." Rodney Coronado, convicted felon for 1992 Michigan State University firebombing and PeTA funds beneficiary, speaking at SHAC rally, Edison, New Jersey, November 30, 2002 "We have found that civil disobedience and direct action has been powerful in generating massive attention in our communities ... and has been very effective in traumatizing our targets." JP Goodwin, Committee to Abolish the Fur Trade, National Animal Rights Convention '97, June 27, 1997, now employed by the Humane Society of the United States "I know it's illegal trespassing, but I don't think it's wrong," Ingrid Newkirk, PeTA's founder and president, Montgomery County, Md. Journal, Feb. 16, 1988 "More than anything we applied arson, and effectively we destroyed -- um, let's see -- the Northwest Fur Breeders Cooperative in Edmonds, Washington, which we hit a week later after OSU. We hit Washington State University's Eastern Washington experimental fur farm. We did get seven coyotes out of there, six mink, and ten mice ? We burned down a fur farm that was on the market to be sold, in Oregon also. We went to the Michigan State University's experimental fur farm program and destroyed thirty-two years of research, by using fire once again, and rescued two mink from there." Rodney Coronado, convicted felon for 1992 firebombing of a research facility at Michigan State University, at SHAC rally, Edison, New Jersey, November 30, 2002 submitted and approved. " Medical research is "immoral even it it's essential." Ingrid Newkirk, PeTA's founder and president, Washington Post, May 30, 1989 "To those people who say, ..My father is alive because of animal experimentation,' I say ..Yeah, well, good for you. This dog died so your father could live.' Sorry, but I am just not behind that kind of trade off." - Bill Maher, PETA celebrity spokesman "If my father had a heart attack, it would give me no solace at all to know his treatment was first tried on a dog," Ingrid Newkirk, founder, president and former national director for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, (PeTA), Washington Post, Nov. 13, 1983. "I do not believe that it could never be justifiable to experiment on a brain-damaged human." Peter Singer, Animal Liberation: A New Ethic for Our Treatment of Animals, 2nd ed. (New York: New York Review of Books, 1990), p. 85. "There could conceivably be circumstances in which an experiment on an animal stands to reduce suffering so much that it would be permissible to carry it out even if it involved harm to the animal... even if the animal were a human being." Peter Singer, Animal Liberation: A New Ethic for Our Treatment of Animals, 2nd ed. (New York: New York Review of Books, 1990), p. 85 "I would not knowingly have an animal hurt for me, or my children, or anything else." Cleveland Armory, founder, Fund for Animals (Larry King Show, October 29, 1987). "In appropriate circumstances we are justified in using humans to achieve goals (or the goal of assisting animals)." Peter Singer, in Behavioral and Brain Sciences (1990, Volume 3,), p. 46. "If an animal researcher said, "Its a dog or a child,' a liberator will defend the dog every time." "Screaming Wolf" (pseudonym), A Declaration of War: Killing People to Save Animals and the Environment (Grass Valley, California: Patrick Henry Press, 1991), p. 14. ?I don?t approve of the use of animals for any purpose that involves touching them ? caging them.? Dr. Neal Barnard, president, Physician?s Committee for Responsible Medicine(PCRM), The Daily Californian (February 9, 1989) quoting Bernard's address to an audience at International House (Berkeley). "Animal experiments occupy a central place in the material and spiritual edifice of our whole civilization. We are speaking here of one of those foundation stones whose removal could cause the whole house to collapse." Rudolph Bahro, Building the Green Movement, trans. Mary Tyler (London: GMP, 1986) p. 203. "Human beings, as a species, have no more value than slugs." -- John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal "We feel that animals have the same rights as retarded children." -Alex Pacheco, Director, PETA, New York Times, January 14, 1989. "What we must do is start viewing every cow, pig, chicken, monkey, rabbit, mouse, and pigeon as our family members." Gary Yourofsky, Humane Education Director, PETA, The Toledo Blade, June 24, 2001 "What could be the basis of our having more inherent value than animals? Their lack of reason, or autonomy, or intellect? Only if we are willing to make the same judgment in the case of humans who are similarly deficient." Tom Regan, "The Case for Animal Rights," In Defense of Animals, Peter Singer, ed. (Oxford: Blackwell, 1985), p. 23. "The life of an ant and the life of my child should be accorded equal respect." - Wayne Pacelle, Senior Vice-President oF HSUS, formerly of Friends for Animals, The Associated Press, Jan. 15, 1989 "The life of an ant and that of my child should be granted equal consideration." Michael W. Fox, Scientific Director and former Vice President, The Humane Society of the United States, The Inhumane Society, New York, 1990 Regan when asked which he would save, a dog or a baby, if a boat capsized in the ocean: "If it were a retarded baby and a bright dog, I'd save the dog." -Tom Regan, Q&A session following a speech, University of Wisconsin-Madison, October 27, 1989. "If it were a child and a dog I wouldn't know for sure... I might choose the human baby or I might choose the dog." Susan Rich, outreach coordinator, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PeTA), on the Steve Kane Show, WIOD-AM radio, Miami, Florida, February 23, 1989. "An animal experiment cannot be justifiable unless the experiment is so important that the use of a brain-damaged human would be justifiable." -Peter Singer, Animal Liberation: A New Ethic for Our Treatment of Animals, 2nd. edition, 1990. "Surely there will be some nonhuman animals whose lives, by any standards, are more valuable than the lives of some humans." -Peter Singer, Animal Liberation: A New Ethic for Ourt Treatment of Animals, 2nd edition, 1990. "We are not especially 'interested in' animals. Neither of us had ever been inordinately fond of dogs, cats, or horses in the way that many people are. We didn't 'love' animals." -- Peter Singer*, Animal Liberation: A New Ethic for Our Treatment of Animals, 2nd ed. (New York Review of Books, 1990), Preface, p. ii. "If an animal has any rights at all, it's got the right not to be eaten." Gary Francione, speech, University of Minnesota Law School, November 6, 1991. "...the animal rights movement is not concerned about species extinction. An elephant is no more or less important than a cow, just as a dolphin is no more important than a tuna...In fact, many animal rights advocates would argue that it is better for the chimpanzee to become extinct than to be exploited continually in laboratories, zoos and circuses." Barbara Biel, The Animals' Agenda, Vol 15 #3. "Animal liberationists do not separate out the human animal, so there is no rational basis for saying that a human being has special rights. A rat is a pig is a dog is a boy. They are all mammals." --Ingrid Newkirk, national director, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PeTA), as quoted in Vogue, September 1989. "A rat is a pig is a dog is a boy." Ingrid Newkirk, PeTA's founder and president, Washingtonian Magazine, August 1986 "One day people will regard specism as we now regard racism." - Barry Horne Expressing opposition to use of bug sprays "Only a few of the million you kill would have bitten you." Dr. Michael Fox, Scientific Director and former Vice President of Humane Society of the US (HSUS), Returning to Eden, Fox publication "Human care (of animals) is simply sentimental, sympathetic patronage." - Dr. Michael W. Fox, HSUS, in 1988 Newsweek interview "We have no ethical obligation to preserve the different breeds of livestock produced through selective breeding. ... One generation and out. We have no problem with the extinction of domestic animals. They are creations of human selective breeding." - Wayne Pacelle, Senior Vice-President oF HSUS, formerly of Friends for Animals; Quoted in Animal People, May, 1993 "In a perfect world, animals would be free to live their lives to the fullest: raising their young, enjoying their native environments, and following their natural instincts. However, domesticated dogs and cats cannot survive "free" in our concrete jungles, so we must take as good care of them as possible. People with the time, money, love, and patience to make a lifetime commitment to an animal can make an enormous difference by adopting from shelters or rescuing animals from a perilous life on the street. But it is also important to stop manufacturing "pets," thereby perpetuating a class of animals forced to rely on humans to survive." -PETA pamphlet, Companion Animals: Pets or Prisoners? "I don't use the word "pet." I think its speciest language. I prefer "companion animal." For one thing, we would no longer allow breeding. People could not create different breeds. There would be no pet shops. If people had companion animals in their homes, those animals would have to be refugees from the animal shelters and the streets. You would have a protective relationship with them just as you would with an orphaned child. But as the surplus of cats and dogs (artificially engineered by centuries of forced breeding) declined, eventually companion animals would be phased out, and we would return to a more symbiotic relationship enjoyment at a distance." -Ingrid Newkirk, PETA vice-president, quoted in The Harper's Forum Book, Jack Hitt, ed., 1989, p.223. "Liberating our language by eliminating the word 'pet' is the first step ... In an ideal society where all exploitation and oppression has been eliminated, it will be NJARA's policy to oppose the keeping of animals as 'pets.'" -New Jersey Animal Rights Alliance, "Should Dogs Be Kept As Pets? NO!" Good Dog! February 1991, p.20 "Pet ownership is an abysmal situation brought about by human manipulation." -Ingrid Newkirk, President, PETA, Washingtonian, August 1986 "It is time we demand an end to the misguided and abusive concept of animal ownership. The first step on this long, but just, road would be ending the concept of pet ownership." -Elliot Katz, President, In Defense of Animals, "In Defense of Animals," Spring 1997 "You don't have to own squirrels and starlings to get enjoyment from them ... One day, we would like an end to pet shops and the breeding of animals. Dogs would pursue their natural lives in the wild ... they would have full lives, not wasting at home for someone to come home in the evening and pet them and then sit there and watch TV." -Ingrid Newkirk, President, PETA, Chicago Daily Herald, March 1, 1990. "Let us allow the dog to disappear from our brick and concrete jungles -- from our firesides, from the leather nooses and chains by which we enslave it." -John Bryant, Fettered Kingdoms: An Examination of A Changing Ethic, PETA, 1982, p.15. "The cat, like the dog, must disappear..... We should cut the domestic cat free from our dominance by neutering, neutering, and more neutering, until our pathetic version of the cat ceases to exist." -John Bryant, Fettered Kingdoms: An Examination of a Changing Ethic, PETA 1982, p.15. "As John Bryant has written in his book Fettered Kingdoms, they pets are like slaves, even if well-kept slaves." -PETA's Statement on Companion Animals "One day we would like an end to pet shops and breeding animals Dogs would pursue their natural lives in the wild." -Ingrid Newkirk, Chicago Daily Herald, March 1, 1990 "Breeders must be eliminated! As long as there is a surplus of companion animals in the concentration camps referred to as "shelters", and they are killing them because they are homeless, one should not be allowed to produce more for their own amusement and profit. If you know of a breeder in the Los Angeles area, whether commercial or private, legal or illegal, let us know and we will post their name, location, phone number so people can write them letters telling them 'Don't Breed or Buy, While Others DIE.'" "Breeders! Let's get rid of them too!" Campaign on Animal Defense League's website, September 2, 2003. "Our goal is to make the public think of breeding dogs and cats like drunk driving and smoking." Kim Sturla, former director of the Peninsula Humane Society and Western Director of Fund for Animals, stated during Kill the Crisis, not the Animals campaign and workshops, 1991 "Down with Breeders!" - actress Alicia Silverstone, Break Through of the Year awards on ShowTime, April 16, 2006, where she presented an award to some woman for all the work she did for dogs in shelters and for HSUS. Then Alicia suggested for everyone to support their local pounds! "Animal Fancies provide an escape from the real world, a sense of purpose in a lot of purposeless lives, a chance to play God by breeding animals, and a chance to play celebrity by showing them." Phil Maggitti, The Animals' Agenda, December 1991. "The bottom line is that people don't have the right to manipulate or to breed dogs and cats ... If people want toys they should buy inanimate objects. If they want companionship they should seek it with their own kind." -Ingrid Newkirk, President, PETA, "Animals," May/June 1993 "My goal is the abolition of all animal agriculture." JP Goodwin, employed at the Humane Society of the US, formerly at Coalition to Abolish the Fur Trade, as quoted on AR-Views, an animal rights Internet discussion group in 1996. "I think the whole concept of private property as an ultimate 'good' has got to be replaced. There's a higher good out there than private property...." David Foreman, co-founder and leader, Earth First! (Animal Rights Reporter, June, 1989) "Meat consumption is just as dangerous to public health as tobacco use ? It's time we looked into holding the meat producers and fast-food outlets legally accountable." Neal Barnard, President of Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM) and PeTA's Medical Advisor, PETA, PCRM press release, "Physicians Advise Feds to Go After 'Big Meat' Next", September 23, 1999. "Everyone who agrees unnecessary animal suffering should be ended must eat no animal food products." David J. Cantor, Farm Sanctuary Investigator: Letter to the Editor, Kansas City Star, complaining about a reporter who refused to give up eating meat, December 11, 2000 "Eating meat is primitive, barbaric, and arrogant." Ingrid Newkirk, founder, president and former national director, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PeTA), as quoted in Charles Griswold, Jr., "Q&A," Washington City Paper, December 20, 1985, p. 44. "If beef is your idea of 'real food for real people,' you'd better live real close to a real good hospital." Neal Barnard, President, Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM), and PeTA's Medical Advisor,The Buffalo News, December 1, 1995 "Meat stinks!" People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals slogan, as quoted in Joe Vansickle, "Playing Catch-Up," Beef, March 1991, p. 34. "Do you know that fat little guy from Seinfeld? He has become the main pitchman for KFC, Jason Alexander. And beginning in May he is going to star in the West Coast production of 'The Producers.' It's made for us. We can be slamming him as the play opens. If we do this properly, he will wish he never saw a chicken." Dan Matthews, Director of Media Relations, PETA: The New Yorker, April 14, 2003 "It's time for the animal rights movement to take this fur industry and drive the final nail into the coffin by whatever means it takes. If that means being outside the executives houses, if that means blockading their doors, whatever it takes." John 'J.P.' Goodwin, Humane Society of the US Campaign Director, former executive director of the Coalition to Abolish the Fur Trade, in speech at the World Congress for Animals, June 20, 1996 "Back to the Pleistocene!" --Earth First! slogan, as quoted by Virginia I. Postrel, "The Green Road to Serfdom," Reason, April 1990, p. 24. "Everything we have developed over the last 100 years should be destroyed." -- Pentti Linkola "The only real good technology is no technology at all. Technology is taxation without representation, imposed by our elitist species (man) upon the rest of the natural world" -- John Shuttleworth "The only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States: We can't let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization, we have in the U.S. We have to stop these Third World countries right where they are. And it is important to the rest of the world to make sure that they don't suffer economically by virtue of our stopping them." -- Michael Oppenheimer, Environmental Defense Fund "I find that as I get older I seem to become more of a Luddite... And hearing animal experimenters describe me as a Luddite--which I used to think I was not. And now I think Ned Lud had the right idea and we should have stopped all the machinery way back when, and learned to live simple lives." --Ingrid Newkirk, national director, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PeTA), speech at Loyola University, October 24, 1988. "If we could shut down all sport hunting in a moment, we would." Wayne Pacelle, Senior VP Humane Society of the US (HSUS), formerly of Friends of Animals and Fund for Animals, Associated Press, Dec 30, 1991 "Our goal is to get sport hunting in the same category as cock fighting and dog fighting." Wayne Pacelle, Senior VP Humane Society of the US (HSUS), formerly of Friends of Animals and Fund for Animals, (Bozeman (MT) Daily Chronicle (October 8, 1991) "We are going to use the ballot box and the democratic process to stop all hunting in the United States ... We will take it species by species until all hunting is stopped in California. Then we will take it state by state. Wayne Pacelle, Senior VP Humane Society of the US (HSUS), formerly of Friends of Animals and Fund for Animals, Full Cry Magazine, October 1, 1990. "We are complete press sluts." Ingrid Newkirk, PeTA's president and founder, The New Yorker, April 14, 2003 "Probably everything we do is a publicity stunt ... we are not here to gather members, to please, to placate, to make friends. We're here to hold the radical line." Ingrid Newkirk, PeTA's president and founder, USA Today, September 3, 1991 "We're looking for good lawsuits that will establish the interests of animals as a legitimate area of concern in law." Ingrid Newkirk, PeTA's founder and president, Insight on the News. July 17, 2000 "We would be foolish and silly not to unite with people in the public health sector, the environmental community, and unions, to try to challenge corporate agriculture." Wayne Pacelle, Senior VP Humane Society of the US, formerly of Friends of Animals and Fund for Animals, at the Animal Rights 2002" Convention, July 1, 2002. "Once we get three more directors elected, the Sierra Club will no longer be pro-hunting and pro-trapping and we can use the resources of the $95-million-a-year budget to address some of these issues." Paul Watson, Founder, Sea Shepherd Conservation Society, NY Times, March 16, 2004 "If we are not able to bring the churches, the synagogues, and the mosques around to the animal rights view, we will never make large-scale progress for animal rights in the United States." Norm Phelps, Program Director, Fund for Animals: "Animal Rights 2002" convention, July 2, 2002. "Whether or not the public regards . . . direct action as fringe or as extremist or terroristic or whatever label they want to put on it, doesn't really matter to us because the public at large is apathetic and is going to sit on its ass regardless of whether it agrees with us or not," Kevin Kjonaas, National Director, Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty USA (SHAC USA); spokesperson, Animal Defense League; New York organizer, Viva! USA; quoted in Animal rights advocates clash with U. Minnesota researchers. Dylan Thomas, Minnesota Daily, University of Minnesota, November 11, 2002. Fatuous Predictions: The battle to feed humanity is over. In the 1970s, the world will undergo famines. Hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now. Population control is the only answer -- Paul Ehrlich - The Population Bomb (1968) I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000 -- Paul Ehrlich in (1969) In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish. -- Paul Ehrlich, Earth Day (1970) Before 1985, mankind will enter a genuine age of scarcity . . . in which the accessible supplies of many key minerals will be facing depletion -- Paul Ehrlich in (1976) This cooling trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century -- Peter Gwynne, Newsweek 1976 If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder by the year 2000...This is about twice what it would take to put us in an ice age. -- Kenneth E.F. Watt on air pollution and global cooling, Earth Day (1970) "What we've got to do in energy conservation is try to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, to have approached global warming as if it is real means energy conservation, so we will be doing the right thing anyway in terms of economic policy and environmental policy." -- Timothy Wirth, former U.S. Senator (D-Colorado) Animal welfare VS. animal rights Animal welfare is animal rights, the non-vegan version. "Not only are the philosophies of animal rights and animal welfare separated by irreconcilable differences... the enactment of animal welfare measures actually impedes the achievement of animal rights... Welfare reforms, by their very nature, can only serve to retard the pace at which animal rights goals are achieved." Gary Francione and Tom Regan, "A Movement's Means Create Its Ends," The Animals' Agenda, January/February 1992, pp. 40-42. "The theory of animal rights is simply not consistent with the theory of animal welfare or other approaches that reject the rights view and, more importantly, embrace animal exploitation. Animal rights means dramatic social changes for humans and nonhumans alike; if our bourgeois values prevent us from accepting those changes. then we have no right to call ourselves advocates of animal rights." - Gary Francione, Director of the Rutgers Animal Rights Law Clinic: Animals' Voice, VOL. 4, NO. 2, pp. 54-55) "I despise 'animal welfare.' That's like saying, 'Let's beat the slaves three times a week instead of five times a week'." Gary Yourofsky, founder, Animals Deserve Adequate Protection Today and Tomorrow (ADAPTT), PeTA's national lecturer, quoted in "As Threats of Violence Escalate, Primate Researchers stand Firm", Chronicle of Higher Education, Washington, DC, November 12, 1999 "The major success of this decade the 1980s has been the reapplication of the concept of rights in the human population to nonhuman species." John Kullberg, president, American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, as quoted in Charles Oliver, ?Liberation Zoology," Reason, 22, No. 2 (June 1990), p. 24. "As long as humans have rights and non-humans do not, as is the case in the welfarist framework, then non-humans will virtually always lose when their interests conflict with human interests. Thus welfare reforms, by their very nature, can only serve to retard the pace at which animal rights goals are achieved." Francione & Regan, "A Movement's Means Create Its Ends," Animals' Agenda, Jan.-Feb., 1992 --
The only difference between animal welfare and animal rights is that animal welfarists don't necessarily go far enough for the vegan animal rights movement by shunning meat-eating, the wearing of leather or fur, or the
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Friday, June 05, 2009
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Humans are classified in the animal kingdom because we have more in common with many animals than we have with any plant or mineral. This classification is not meant to put humanity down on a level with other animals and advance animal rights and other radical anti-human movements. The animal kingdom is divided into various groups such as vertebrates and non-vertebrates, mammals and non-mammal species. Once these lines have been drawn, it is considered a gross error and possibly even dangerous to assume a species belongs to one category particularly when care of that species is involved. Of course, there are many more classifications within the animal kingdom, a rat is not a pig, is not a dog, is not a boy. On this basis, it is time to establish another line which must never be crossed if humanity is to have a chance against the dangerous anti-human sentiment that is animal and environmental activism. People (humans) VS animals. Animals are animals, and people are people. Animal rights/welfare activists claim we are all animals, and there are many activist groups and individuals who wish to put animals above humans as deserving of even the most basic of rights. Language is one very important tool they are using to attempt this goal. In an article titled Watch Your Language, Charlotte McGowan, Newton, Massachusetts, calls attention to this disturbing trend: "I would like to make some observations about language. The animal rights people want to change language to help them in their quest to give animals legal standing and we are helping them. Time to stop." The following are animal rights/welfare terms that have managed to be picked up and believed by the general public thanks to shoddy media publicity that touts animal rights dogma as fact, and the sentimental tendency for pet lovers to anthropomorphize, not wanting to realize the truth about how dangerous this cutesy trend actually is in advancing the animal rights agendas. It is in your best interest to reject all of these. explanations below. 1. "Adopt" - Acquiring animals from another person, breeder, pet store, or pound. Animals are not people. They are bought, sold, given away, and acquired. Human children are adopted... Ms. McGowan addresses the misuse of this term in her article, saying: "Adopting - this is a term used for humans. We don't adopt animals. Sorry, rescues don't offer animals for adoption either. They offer them for placement. They re-home them. But they aren't adopted. If money changes hands, they sell them. A shelter here in Mass grosses over $700,000 a year selling imported shelter strays, mutts and feral street dogs. They go for $350 a pop. They don't rescue in my opinion, they keep product in the store! They have a big so-called not for profit 501(c)3 business. If we start calling it like it is (and I do) believe me you are going to feel so much better. Now if a purebred rescue collects money from someone for a dog, they are taking money as a placement or re-homing fee or they are asking to be reimbursed for expenses related to the re-homing." McGowan gives a call we all need to heed if we are to maintain the right to have our own animals in our own homes, and have a choice in which animals we may keep as pets. "Let's drop adoption. Animal rights people love us if we help them. Let's stop helping them." 2. "Foster" - Taking in an animal,again using a word meant to apply to children - fostering is for children, not for animals. Charlotte McGowan agrees. Though she mentions dogs specifically in the following statement, it holds true for all animals. "Fostering - This is a term used for children taken by the state and put in the care of people not their parents. We don't foster dogs. We provide temporary care for displaced dogs. Sorry if you find that awkward but we can all benefit by retraining ourselves." 3. "Referring to animal(s) as "Child" "furkid" "furchild" "for-legged children" "furbabies" "*insert animal species)-child/kids" any reference to an animal as a "child" "son" or "daughter" "little sister/brother" or "big sister/brother" if the animal came along before the child, and even as "grandkids" if your pet has given birth, or your grown children have acquired pets - This is an attempt to remove the words "pet" and "owner" from our vocabulary, and our rights to keep and see animals for what they are - animals. This trend is extremely common among pet lovers, but it's a push to give animals equal status to humans, a very large part of the animal welfare/rights agenda. "What we must do is start viewing every cow, pig, chicken, monkey, rabbit, mouse, and pigeon as our family members." Gary Yourofsky, Humane Education Director, PETA, The Toledo Blade, June 24, 2001 This is the same Gary Yourofsky who says: Referring to humans as "skinkids" and "two-legged children" is implying that there is a belief that animals are children that have fur, scales, fins and feathers. Ms. McGowan has this to say: "Words that do not belong in the language at all - furbabies, furkids, fur children. All of these terms make animals into children who (gasp) need guardians, adoption and fostering." 4. "Guardian" "pet parent" "mommy" "daddy" "care-taker" "steward" of animals - the animal owner. Unfortunately, many people think it's kind, warm, fuzzy, and cute, failing and often not wanting to realize this is helping out the animal rights in their goal to have us view animals as children, and eventually give up the right to keep animals at all. On the subject of animal "guardianship" VS. animal ownership, Ms. McGowan says: Guardian - legal term used for the legally responsible person caring for a minor child or incapacitated person. I think we get this one. We have to fight Guardian language in animal ordinances tooth and nail because a guardian takes away ownership from the owner. If you own a dog it is yours. If you are a guardian, you are not an owner. You are a person or entity with legal care responsibility. If dogs have guardians instead of owners, we no longer have ownership rights. 5. "Owned by" or "slave to" - As opposed to "I own." Many people think this is cute again, but animal rights dictates that we don't own anything, we are intruders tresspassing on land the animals own. 6. "Companion animal" - Pet. The term 'companion animal' was coined by none other than Ingrid Newkirk, co-founder of the animal activist group PEta, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, because she wants to get rid of pet ownership. She shuns the word pet and we shun the word 'companion animal'. Read her statement, she uses several animal welfare/rights extremist terms in this little diatribe alone: "I don't use the word "pet." I think its speciest language. I prefer "companion animal." For one thing, we would no longer allow breeding. People could not create different breeds. There would be no pet shops. If people had companion animals in their homes, those animals would have to be refugees from the animal shelters and the streets. You would have a protective relationship with them just as you would with an orphaned child. But as the surplus of cats and dogs (artificially engineered by centuries of forced breeding) declined, eventually companion animals would be phased out, and we would return to a more symbiotic relationship enjoyment at a distance." -Ingrid Newkirk, PETA vice-president, quoted in The Harper's Forum Book, Jack Hitt, ed., 1989, p.223. "Liberating our language by eliminating the word 'pet' is the first step ... In an ideal society where all exploitation and oppression has been eliminated, it will be NJARA's policy to oppose the keeping of animals as 'pets.'" -New Jersey Animal Rights Alliance, "Should Dogs Be Kept As Pets? NO!" Good Dog! February 1991, p.20 "In a perfect world, animals would be free to live their lives to the fullest: raising their young, enjoying their native environments, and following their natural instincts. However, domesticated dogs and cats cannot survive "free" in our concrete jungles, so we must take as good care of them as possible. People with the time, money, love, and patience to make a lifetime commitment to an animal can make an enormous difference by adopting from shelters or rescuing animals from a perilous life on the street. But it is also important to stop manufacturing "pets," thereby perpetuating a class of animals forced to rely on humans to survive." -PETA pamphlet, Companion Animals: Pets or Prisoners? "Pet ownership is an abysmal situation brought about by human manipulation." -Ingrid Newkirk, President, PETA, Washingtonian, August 1986 "It is time we demand an end to the misguided and abusive concept of animal ownership. The first step on this long, but just, road would be ending the concept of pet ownership." -Elliot Katz, President, In Defense of Animals, "In Defense of Animals," Spring 1997 "Let us allow the dog to disappear from our brick and concrete jungles -- from our firesides, from the leather nooses and chains by which we enslave it." -John Bryant, Fettered Kingdoms: An Examination of A Changing Ethic, PETA, 1982, p.15. "The cat, like the dog, must disappear..... We should cut the domestic cat free from our dominance by neutering, neutering, and more neutering, until our pathetic version of the cat ceases to exist." -John Bryant, Fettered Kingdoms: An Examination of a Changing Ethic, PETA 1982, p.15. "As John Bryant has written in his book Fettered Kingdoms, they pets are like slaves, even if well-kept slaves." -PETA's Statement on Companion Animals "One day we would like an end to pet shops and breeding animals Dogs would pursue their natural lives in the wild." -Ingrid Newkirk, Chicago Daily Herald, March 1, 1990 "You don't have to own squirrels and starlings to get enjoyment from them ... One day, we would like an end to pet shops and the breeding of animals. Dogs would pursue their natural lives in the wild ... they would have full lives, not wasting at home for someone to come home in the evening and pet them and then sit there and watch TV." -Ingrid Newkirk, President, PETA, Chicago Daily Herald, March 1, 1990. 7. "Forever home" - A rescuer's way of '"screening" people from owning animals. If you can't absolutely guarantee that you and your home will be here or that you won't become sick or otherwise unable to care for the animal for the rest of its life, you're not a 'forever home' and not good enough to own a pet. The truth is nobody can or should be expected to make such guarantees, life happens and sometimes things change and are beyond our control. 8."Responsible" - This word is often used in conjunction with "pet owner" "breeder" "farming" in exactly the same way other disclaimer words are meant to point out an abaration, as if "responsible" owners are the abaration and the special rarity while "irresponsibility" runs rampant as the norm in animal ownership. What talking about "responsible" pet owners does is accusing most ownership of irresponsibility by default while claiming a select few are the "responsible" ones. It also gives the animal welfare fundamentalists any excuse to call you "irresponsible" for any and all subjective opinions held against you. 9. "Ethical" and "reputable" - These words are used in conjunction with 'breeder' in exactly the same way. Oddly enough, 'reputable' is even used by "rescuers" to judge one another as well. This is because although they may unite against any average animal owner or breeder who does not call themself a "rescue" even "rescuers" disagree about animal care, and will tear down the next "rescue" as abusive. 10. "Rescue" - acquiring animals to either keep or place into new homes. This term is particularly nasty toward any previous owner because every time you claim to have 'rescued' an animal, it is insulting the previous owner. For it to be a true rescue there has to be some serious and immediate danger involved that the animal is being saved from. I.E. A kitten up a tree or puppy down a deep hole. Most pets aren't in danger except for sicknesses and accidents, and that should be no reflecction on the owner. Too many people buy animals from others who for whatever reason can't keep them any more, then turn around and claim to have 'rescued' the animals. 11. "Refuge" and "sanctuary" - Placement home or facility. Like the word "rescue," "refuge" and "sanctuary" when applied to surrendered pets, slanders the previous owner as something the animal needed to seek "refuge" or "sanctuary" from. 12. "Animal rights" - a term associated with the most extreme animal activist groups. These groups are known for committing very unkind actions toward fellow humans in the name of "compassion and kindness for animals" while attempting to stop the wearing of fur and leather, the eating of meat, and the keeping of exotic pets. What isn't as well known about animal rights groups is that they want to stop all pet ownership, including that of dogs and cats, end all medical research that is done in order to save life, and the use of any and all animal products. Animal rights groups are known for veganism. They take The most extreme stance that animals should have rights, and more rights than humans. This is why they call it "murder" when a person eats meat, but they don't make a peep when a cat kills a mouse, wolves kill caribou, and lions kill zebra etc. Some animal rights believers keep "companion animals" and still feed them pet food made from meat and animal products. Normal pet foods. They call this necessary for their 'companion animals' which must eat right, and should have the right to eat what's best for them and what they like. They seem fine with supporting the meat industries to feed their animals, but not to feed themselves or other humans. To them, it's good if an animal eats it, but it's evil if a human eats it. Others feed their carnivore and omnivore "companion animals" specially formulated vegan pet foods. They don't seem to truly have the animal's interest at heart, and are willing to put their companion's health in jeopardy with a bad diet in order to not support the meat industry. There is serious contension among the animal rights/welfare factions over this. 13. "Animal welfare" This is actually animal rights, the non-vegan version. The only difference between animal welfare and animal rights is that animal welfarists don't necessarily go far enough for the vegan animal rights movement by shunning the idea that animals are property, meat-eating, the wearing of leather or fur, or the use of animal products. Animal welfare is a slightly less extreme sect of animal rights, because they have more in common with them than not. Animal welfare activists may be pet owners and breeders, and definitely "rescues" interested in fighting to keep their own animals, but they will be among the first right along with the vegan animal rights to spread animal abuse tales without question, go after anybody they believe might be "irresponsible" as an animal owner/breeder, even "rescuer. Animal welfare activists tend to condemn pet stores, believing they get pups from "puppy mills," call their animals "furkids" use "adopt" instead of buy or sell, and pass around e-petitions associated with ASPCA and other animal rights groups such as FOA (Friends of Animals,) IFAW (International Fund for Animal Welfare,) Best Friends, In Defense of Animals, even Green Peace, HSUS and PETa. Whatever tugs at their heartstrings no matter who originally started it, they get behind it, not knowing or caring that they are making deals with the devil to fight a largely distorted, even non-existent evil that is said to be done to animals. They often work in and boast about what they call 'rescue'. Many don't sell animals, they "adopt" them out...for a fee, of course; screening potential owners, making it as difficult to acquire a pet as it is to get into Mensa for most people. Many will not let you acquire an animal unless you buy two, or promise on your life that you will get that animal a play mate of its own species. Like the more extreme animal rights, they often view animals as little children that need as much attention as a child, and that a human cannot fulfill this need. Animal welfare activists have been known to round on people based on nothing but malicious rumor and gossip, staged scenes and doctored up pictures. Or else they use the suggestion method, that is, they tell you a huge sob story about animal abuse/neglect, making sure the tale grows worse and worse as they tell it. Then they show you a picture and tell you what's in it, even if it's really not there. The plan is that you're supposed to be so gripped by the emotion that comes from their horror story that you will see non-existent mounds of fecies and sad animals even when the picture shows otherwise. You are every bit as likely to hear wild myths about dog-flaying and cats being boiled alive in Korea from animal welfare as from the vegan animal rights activists. They are as likely to pass around news releases from extremist organizations that claim to save some species from the brink of extinction. They'll applaud this, without looking into the heart of the organization itself, to find that the organization is working against animal ownership, especially when it comes to anything exotic - animals other than dogs and cats. 14. "Animal protection/advocacy" is really the same as "animal welfare" and "animal rights" just called by a different name. "15. "Screening" Animal welfarists who have animals to 'adopt out' screen by asking millions of questions that, if not answered exactly to their satisfaction, they brand you as a terrible person and do their best to barr you from ever getting a pet, all based on their erronious beliefs that everybody is more likely to neglect or abuse rather than take care of and love their pets. It's their way of 'saving' the animal from going to the new owner who didn't measure up to the demands of the pound or rescue that has the animals. Some animal welfarists even go as far as to demand you will your animals to someone else upon your death, and if you don't do this, you're not fit to own a pet. 16. "Backyard breeder" - The term "backyard breeder" is particularly nasty, because it is very anti-family and anti-pet. It's designed to make people think of the slob who keeps his dogs in the backyard, constantly breeding dogs and keeping them in bad conditions. In truth, a real backyard breeder is nothing more than a family that has a dog or cat which has a litter. So, animal rights/welfare people are actually against anyone owning pets that breed even once, unless of course they are the pet owners themselves. 17. "Puppy mill" - A term made up by the animal rights and welfare activists, especially the so-called Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) to slander all dog breeders and kennels. Ms. McGowan states: "Puppy Mill- There is no such thing. Puppy mill is a slur, like the "n....." word. Let's stop using it. We hate substandard kennels. We want all dogs to be kept well. Well kept dogs are well kept dogs whether they are in kennels or in homes. It isn't about how many dogs there are it is about how well they are kept. 18. "Factory Farm" - a farm. It could mean anything from a small family farm to a commercial farm, if they want to smear any farmer, they call it a factory farm Ms. McGowan observes: "HSU$ calls all farms factory farms. When have you ever heard them talk about or care about family farms? Now they call all breeders puppy mills. They try to mumble in a remote footnote that there might be some good breeders but for them it is all about shelters and if not shelters rescues. Do you get it? They use language to slander all animal use and all dog breeders. Their mumbled lip service doesn't fly with me." Other terms designed to stir up hatred against anyone anywhere who owns and breeds animals: 19. "Broker" 20." "Collector" 21. "Horder" 22. "Roadside Zoo" All these terms are meant to paint any individual who is a victim of an animal welfare/rights smear or misguided, naive person's zeal to be an animal hero, in the worst light possible. If you have too many cats for your neighbor's liking, they can call you a 'horder'. If you breed your dog even once, you could be smeared as a 'backyard breeder'. If you are an animal breeder, they call you a 'mill'. Even people who don't otherwise buy into the animal rights agenda, jump at any and all chances to call the next animal owner one of these intentionally derogatory ar-invented terms. Everybody loves to tell and believe animal abuse stories, true or not. Some people gossip and hurl these terms around in order to try stomping out their competition. 'I'm selling this animal. Whatever you do, don't go and buy from Breeder b. He's a mill.' Others do it to make themselves feel taller than the next person. 'I love my animals. But look at Owner C, she's a horder and abuser!' 'Look at me, I just RESCUED 1000 horribly abused and neglected animals from Person D.' 'A warning about buyer E: she's got too many animals, she's a collector and can't possibly take care of any more.' 'Don't sell to her!' You can even get slapped with the 'mill' term if so much as one of your animals has an infirmity or a condition. A 'rescuer' could slander you as a bad breeder or owner if one of your cats has an eye or ear infection. "Shut down H's operation, he's a roadside zoo!" The animal welfarists don't want you to question this and realize that they are actually pushing to get rid of pet breeders and ownership altogether, and they are slandering the family as a place to raise a pet. 23. "Spay/neuter/fix" something strongly urged as part of the animal rights agenda to end pet ownership. They push to get animals 'fixed' by exaggerating and distorting tales about 'pet overpopulation' and tell lies about health hazards of not 'fixing' your animal. 24. "Innocent animals" - Highly emotional term used by animal welfare/rights activists stricken with a distorted sense of pity for animals. Animals don't come 'innocent' or 'guilty' these are human atributes. 25. "Wild animal" - Yes, even this term has been corrupted for use in the anti-exotic animal ownership agendas. In reality, a wild animal is an animal that is born and living in the wild, and would certainly act wild if caught, and have less of a chance at thriving in captivity as a result. Exotic animals which are not born in the wild may not be considered technically domestic, but that doesn't make them wild in the true sense. There are exotic animals that are tame and friendly, and make even better pets than some domesticated animals. The only difference between an exotic pet and a domestic one is that exotic animals generally lack a long history of being so commonly born and bred in captivity. 26. "Let an animal species be that species" - This is an animal welfarist way of looking down on the next person for taking care of their animals differently from them. It is an anthropomorphic idea that suggests animals have an understanding of human concepts such as "Who and what am I?" They do not. "Let the animal be that animal" is as dangerous as the anthropomorphic idea that animals are furkids. It seeks to further an agenda to sever human and animal ties by assuming an animal is not allowed to "be itself" in the care of its owner. It is also ridiculous, because no animal species becomes or decides to pretend to be a different species, ever, regardless of its environment. A dog will always be a dog; it can't be anything else, it IS a dog. a cat will always be a cat because that's what it is, a cat. a monkey will always be a monkey, because it IS a monkey. Just because some people don't allow their animals to take over their house, does not turn those animals into something other than their species. You are not stopping a dog from being a dog by doing what you can to prevent them from chewing up shoes and peeing against furniture. You are not stopping a cat from being a cat because you try to prevent it from scratching up the furniture. You are not stopping a sugar glider from being a glider or a rat from being a rat by not letting it loose in the house where there is a lot of potential for it to get in trouble without close and constant supervision. Only human beings have the concept and the ability to "be" something, and even that does not extend to another species. A human can act like a dog, but that doesn't make that human turn into a dog. We may say "I'm being a cat for halloween" which means we are choosing to dress up in a cat costume and say "Meow!" a few times on one day out of the year. Animals simply don't "be" anything other than what they are, even if some pet owners put their pets in silly doll clothes and costumes for Halloween or anything else. You might dress your cat up with bunny ears, but your cat is not "being" a rabbit, it is simply a cat dressed up to look like a rabbit. A dog or monkey wearing baby or doll clothes and being pushed around in a stroller is not a dogkid or monkid, it is not your child, it is still a dog or monkey, yours or someone else's pet. Animals do not turn into something else, or pretend to be something other than what they are. Yes, some species are disguised to look like others in order to avoid predation in the wild. That is not "pretending/being" That's how the species was created for the purpose of survival. 27. "Shelter" - the pound. Shelters as in those for the homeless and battered women are for people. The pound is for animals. 28. "Rainbow Bridge" and 'Rainbow angel' - Animal has died. Some of these people actually believe their animals are angels watching out for them and they will one day meet across the "rainbow bridge" and let's face it, they just can't deal with the fact that their animals die. Yet, many of these same people can carry on for ages, telling tales of animals screaming and dying in agony while the "life drains out of their eyes" when the animals in question were not their own and were thought to be abandoned or abused. 29. "Angel" This term has two meanings in the animal welfare world, one to describe a person who has reached the coveted status of animal hero by "rescuing" and especially sacrificing a great deal to save an animal. You won't be considered an angel for having an animal put down that is living an unnatural life in pain that will only worsen if it is kept alive. You would be considered an angel if you spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on medications, surgery, or other treatments that are not necessarily even cures, for a sick hamster, feril cat, a 30 dollar rabbit or stray mutt. "Angel" also refers to any and all animals, because every animal is considered practically a deity or at least as precious as children, often more so, by these people.It is always pure and innocent, and without any faults, therefore, must be saved at all costs, regardless of the toal that takes on the human or the animal itself. Animal angels are sometimes referred to as "rainbow angels" after they die. Then, they have reached the equivalent of sainthood to animal welfarists, and must be mourned very publically for years to come, especially if there is a belief there was any suffering or abuse involved. Animal welfare people are seen talking about how hard they cry and how they just can't carry on after their animals die. They are comforted by their peers, who express nearly as much traumatization, whether or not these friends have ever had any physical contact with the animal during its life. By contrast, the death of a human receives very little recognition or mourning, unless the human in question perrished in the act of trying to save animals, or was known as a staunch animal advocate. If a human who is judged as an animal abuser dies, there is no mourning, instead, there is great glee from animal welfare activists. 30. "Vivisection" and "vivisector" - surgery, surgeon, animal research and researcher. Medical history throughout the ages is barbaric but the animal researchers of today have means of making themselves and their animals as comfortable as possible. Ancient surgeons didn't have these means. Nor are they anything like the truly cruel quacks of the past such as Mengel. But animal activists want people to believe that if you work in animal research, you are a sadist just like Joseph Mengel. Vivisection can even mean a spay or neuter. It means surgery on a being.... 31. "speciesism" - Looking out for our own species. Animal rights activists claim this is as bad as racism, but every animal species looks out for its own species first, it is not racism, it's natural. 32. "Dog fighting" "cock fighting" and "blood-sport" "bait-dog/animal" - Way overblown, highly emotionally charged terms to plant images in people's heads of dogs and roosters being torn apart for entertainment. "blood-sport" implies blood is always shed in a recreational activity involving animals, even when there isn't any blood being shed. "bait-dog" caters to the animal welfare myth that small dogs, especially strays are being snatched up by "dog fighters" to be used as training prey for large breed dogs to kill. This myth has grown into a parallel one that is equally bogus.The claim is that when you have your animal put down, you must stay with it or else the vet will not kill it, and instead, send it to a research facility, where it will live out the rest of its life in sheer agony. Even more convoluted is the myth that the vet is actually a broker who sells animals meant to be put down to dog fighters, or to rendering plants where your pets get turned into pet food. Not true. Cock and dog fighting is illegal and practically non-existent. But animal welfare groups know the size of the emotional wallop from a "Stop the dog fighting!" campaign is massive enough to dupe the public into clammering to get a so-called anti-fight bill passed, which doesn't stop any real fighting. Instead, it only punishes innocent animal owners with ridiculous restrictions. You may not be allowed to keep your birds in a certain type of flight, because the anti-cock fight bill deemed it a flight used to keep fighting roosters, so the environment itself might make you a fighter, and therefore, it's bad. The outlawing of treadmills for dogs to run on by anti-dog fighting bills would hurt kennels that use these treadmills to give the dogs their exercise. You may not be allowed to own a smaller dog if you own a pitbull or rotweiler, because you could be accused of using a bait dog. That is no different from making it illegal for cat owners to keep pet mice. This is big brother on steroids, mascarading as compassion for animals. 33. "Canned hunt" - an animal rights/welfare myth about shooting animals in cages and the like. If you own a vast amount of property and you shoot a coyote to protect your livestock, you could be guilty of the 'canned hunt'. Or killing your own excess animals could mean that as well. But the animal rights radicals would have people believe that canned hunts as they describe them with animals being put in cages and shot for entertainment is a reality, and a common one. 34. "Trophy hunting" 35. "Poaching" "Trophy hunting" and "poaching" can almost be used interchangeably. It is a slag against all hunters. The intent of these terms is to stir up hysterical kneejerk reactions from the public, by making them believe hunters are running rampant in the wilds, killing everything in sight for proffit, and that hunting activity is always slobbish, illegal and irresponsible. Chances are excellent that if you encounter any reference to "trophy hunting" and "poaching" eco-animal zealotry is involved. If not directly, it has influenced the media source, the law, the politics somewhere down the line. Keep in mind these are the same forces that wish to ban animal ownership, agriculture, and the use of animal products. 36. "Encroachment" - This term is used by environmentalists and animal rights/welfare activists who believe the earth belongs to the animals and that humans are a blight of invaders. 37. "Earth raper" - A most offensive term used by eco/animal-activists who claim to love the planet and everything on it except their own species, the human race. "We encourage others to find a local Earth raper and make them pay for the damages they are inflicting on our communities... Furriers, meat packers, bosses, developers, rich industry leaders are all Earth rapers ? We must inflict economic sabotage on all Earth rapers." Craig Rosenbraugh, recipient of PETA funds, Spokesperson for Earth Liberation Front (ELF) statement, August 1, 1999 The liberal misuse of the word "rape" by these activists is disturbing and suggests they definitely have pervurse, ill intent on their minds. If you keep bees, you are guilty of be rape according to Peta. They see it as forcing the bees to breed and make honey for you, which equals rape in their eyes. Not only is this an insult to beekeepers, it is also an insult and trivialization to people who have been raped or know of others who have. Peta has a terrible track-record for this sort of behavior. Its "Holocaust on a plate" demeans and trivializes the lives of anyone who suffered directly or indirectly because of the holocaust. One of the most infamous quotes from Peta: "Six million Jews died in concentration camps, but six billion broiler chickens will die this year in slaughter houses." -Ingrid Newkirk, President, PETA, The Washington Post, November 13, 1983. 38. "Zoofile" or "zoofilia" - A term for beastiality, an abaration in human behavior, but some if not most animal activists would have the public believing it is rampant. Just as you don't have to be cruel to get accused of animal cruelty, you don't have to engage in the sick behavior of beastiality to be accused of it. If you are in charge of animals, and you happen to see them having sex, that is enough for activists to accuse you of zoofilia, animal prostitution and whatever else they can come up with that makes you sound as sick as possible. "Dog breeders are pimps" - a HSUS magazine article 39. "Global warming" - animal rights/eco/environmental climate myth designed to scare people and put the blame on humans as usual for the terror of the so-called greenhouse effect. 40. "Climate change" Same as above, only designed so they can blame any dire weather predictions on humans whether they come true or not. 41. "Greenhouse effect" 'greenhouse gases' - All part of the global warming myth touted by animal rights and environmental extremists. All too frequently believed by the general public, thanks to the media eating right out of the hands of the radicals again. 42. The "murder" of animals - 'murder' is a human killing another human. Only people get murdered, animals get killed. 43. "cannibalism" - when referring to humans eating meat. This is one of the more laughable terms because it's only cannibalism if you eat your own species. But to the vegan animal rights activists, it's cannibalism if a human eats any animal species. Animal welfare/rights activists do not call it cannibalism if an animal eats a human or some other kind of animal. So, we're 'cannibals' for eating chicken but chickens aren't 'cannibels' when they eat grasshoppers. 44. "Dead animals" or "dead animal flesh" or 'carcass' - Meat. This is designed to make meat eating sound inhumane and gross. Again, it's natural behavior for omnivores, and humans are for the most part, omnivores. There are those who choose to eat only plant matter, and that's their choice, but they should mind what's on their own plate and let other people eat what they like. 45. "Jail" or "prison" - A cage. 46. "Concentration camp" - Any facility that houses animals being targeted for a very bad smear campaign by animal rights/welfare extremists. 47. "Slavery" - This is a particularly malicious smear against farmers, pet owners, working animal owners, and also a terrible insult on any actual slaves and their human descendents today, just as is any reference to concentration camps, and comparisons to the holocaust is very tastelessly insulting on people who lived through and died in WWII and Hitler's hell. 48. "Those who can't speak for themselves" 'silent victims' or 'innocent animals' - Terms used by animal rightists designed to villify any human in any human/animal association, but especially where any animal death is involved. They only care about human death if it can be used to tout their agenda of stopping the ownership of animals. 49. "Cruelty-free" - Much as the general public wants to stop cruelty, most people are definitely against real cruelty, beware of anybody spouting how 'cruelty-free' they are, because it means they are animal rights radicals. And animal welfare/rights activists love to tell everyone, though they are very short on actually demonstrating this, how 'compassionate' 'caring' 'cruelty-free' and 'anti-cruelty' they think they are. This is also a put-off as it assumes the rest of us are not anti-cruelty. The trick is to determine what is real cruelty. animal rights/welfare activists will call you cruel for many things, what you wear, what you eat, what animals you keep and what environment you keep them in. People routinely get their character ripped to shreds with false accusations of being "cruel" and "inhumane" for simply feeding the wrong kind of pet food according to pet activists. You can even be called "cruel" and "irresponsible" and worse if you have to give up an animal due to sickness, or someone developing an allergy to the pet in your home. So 'cruelty-free' for them may mean the ending of pet ownership, meat eating, depending on which branch of the animal rights agenda the particular person or outfit is talking about. Animal welfarists commonly blacklist anyone they believe should never own an animal, and rarely is it because of genuine cruelty. Mostly these crusades come from misunderstandings, differences of opinion and very subjective judgemental and misguided calls to action against innocent people by animal welfare activists. This could be because you do not subscribe to their beliefs such as pets are children or that all animal research is wrong and unnecessary, or that you stood up to show support for someone who was falsely accused as an animal abuser in the past. It doesn't matter if the animal welfare activists have met you in person and seen you handle animals. If you oppose their view on anything concerning animals, you are more likely to be viewed by them and their friends as anything from "irresponsible" to "dog fighter!" or that you might decide on a whim that you no longer want your pet, so you'll turn it over to be "tortured" in animal research. Even finances and having a physical limitation can get you in trouble with animal welfare activists. You may not have a large enough dwelling or yard, or are unable to take a dog for as many walks as the activist wants. You may be rejected as a potential owner because you are deaf and may not hear the animal when it wants or needs to get your attention. If you are blind, you could be barred by some activists from owning a small exotic animal such as a ferret or chinchilla because of your disability to turn it loose in the house for play time and keep an eye on it. Giving the animal attention and the best care you can otherwise is not good enough for these activists. As far as they are concerned, if you can't do things their way, you are not fit to own that animal and it is up to them to make that judgement call, not you. In some cases, not only do animal welfarists refuse to let one of their animals go to you as a new owner, but they have even been known to tell as many animal breeders as they can to refuse to sell you an animal. Sincere anti-cruelty and compassionate people never boast about how compassionate they think they are. Honestly caring and decent people hold human rights as precious to them and to others, and only seek to stop real cruelty where it exists. They do not go around trying to dictate how others live and interact with animals based on vegan and non-vegan animal welfare agendas. They don't need to be referred to, and do not call themselves "animal welfare/"rightists"/"protectionists"/"activists"/"advocates" etc. They do not need to shout from the roof-tops and wear badges on their sleeves saying "I CARE FOR ANIMALS!" 50. "Humane" - same as above, if anything involving animal activism is calling itself "humane" it is deceptive, and working to end human rights regarding animals. Where do you think all these racist campaigns against Asia for eating dogs and cats, horrendous false animal abuse accusations and animal ban proposals calls to speuter all pets, change the word "owner" to "guardian" and "pet" to "companion animal," outcries to save the animals whenever a natural disaster hits and many people including children and infants are in danger of losing their lives, calls to end any and eventually all aggriculture, fishing, hunting, the use of working animals, come from? Activist groups and companies touting themselves as "humane" 51. "You don't care about the animals!" - Typical animal rights browbeating of someone who disagrees with them, proves them wrong, or even dares to doubt any horrid tale of animal hell they tell. Raids and lies about animal abuse occur far more frequently than any real animal abuse, and people have had their lives ruined by these accusations, hate campaigns and even death threats by animal activist groups. PEta might stop slandering KFC - if KFC paid them enough money to shut up. But the company refuses to pay PEta to stop lying, so PEta continues to attempt to infiltrate, stage, and lie about KFC's abuse of chickens. The internet is teeming with false animal abuse tales, along with photo-shopped pictures, or even very manipulative wording by the animal activist telling the tale, doing their best to make the reader see or not see whatever they want them to see. Those sad animal abuse commercials with the sad-eyed puppies come from organizations that would take away your pets and call you an animal abuser in the blink of an eye. Those posters and commercials are staged, outdated, and organizations such as PEta and HSUS regularly victimize and dupe people in the name of saving animals. They play on ego as well, using words like "angel" to describe anybody who "saves" an animal, especially when appealing for you to get animals from the pound instead of buying one from a breeder. What this actually does, is promote their agenda to eventually end pet ownership altogether. No breeders, no more pets...Except for the pound imports from other countries to keep up the myth of "overpopulation" going and the pound proffits coming in. The media plays into the public's fears of exotic pets, every time a tiger bites someone, that one story is hyped all over international TV, while the millions of other positive experiences with exotic pets get shunned from publication. The animal welfarists don't want the public to think about what they're really supporting when they are scared into screaming for animal bans. Exotic animals are not just tigers, they are pet fancy rats and mice as well as anything else other than a domestic dog or cat.
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Friday, June 05, 2009
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You know you might be an animal rights/welfare activist if: 1. You perceive immense animal suffering behind most exploits of man. 2. You perceive meat-eating as a ravenously selfish, satanic ritual; wrought in cannibalism. 3. You see nothing except screaming dead animal corpses on plates instead of great smelling meat 4. You feel like a spy in the meat section of the grocery store. 5. You feel incredibly sorry for animals all of the time. 6. Your heart literally aches for animals all of the time. 7. You take the side of the animal all of the time. 8. You feel like you store an animal data bank in the left side of your brain. 9. You find it difficult to distinguish between a token domestic and what you call a 'factory-farmed' animal. 10. You are willing to be made a laughing stock to rescue one animal, or feel an overpowering need to boast about any animal you 'rescued' even if you stomped all over some innocent human being to do it.. 11. You want to vomit when they start talking in code: hamburger, steak, ham, pork, hot dog, etc 12. You want to vomit when they pray sanctimoniously over 'tortured, butchered animal corpses' and utter, "Thank you, Jesus!" 13. You can't think of any place to go because you suspect an animal may have suffered somewhere down the line. 14. You perceive people starting to whisper when you are near about "who" they had for dinner. 15. You empathize at all times with the eternal 'suffering' and 'pain' of animals because of what you imagine as man's 'cruelty' and 'oppression' over them. 16. You bond with people better by strategically placing animals between you. 17. You know in your heart, Earth is a big cesspool, as you try to buy the next generation of animals some more time. 18. You strongly suspect you were an animal in your past life. 19. You know in your heart ALL animals rationalize, and they reason, love, think and feel everything to the exact same capacity as humans do; and just can't fathom why others don't see this obvious truth. 20. You believe God honors and values the lives of all animals as much to die for as your own, but more than other human beings. 21. You understand and embrace the concept of love to be unconditional and all-inclusive for every animal but the human being. 22. You value scientific findings based on how well they suit your own morality, not how well they provide consistent predictions or stand up to peer review. 23. You are positive you know more about interpretting theological doctrine than the Catholic Church, all the Protestant Churches in America, and most of the current Rabbis combined. 24. You enjoy making people who struggle against cancer and other grave conditions feel selfish for using modern, animal tested medications. In addition, you use their situation against them in order to promote your vegan diet, telling them some hooey hogwash you got from some twisted food-cop/animal activist group press release or chain letter, about how going vegan will get rid of their cancer, chemo therapy never works, and eating anything meat, dairy or eggs will kill them. 25. You think the Alaskan Iditirod is cruel, but fire-bombing somebody's place of business is cool. 26. You see hunting, fishing, and rodeo as disgustingly sick and exploitive, but you get a huge belly laugh or at least a very satisfied sense of 'justice' whenever a human being is injured or killed by a wild animal or bull. 27. When a vehicle hauling livestock is in an accident and the driver gets killed or seriously injured, your only tears are shed for the animals in that vehicle. 28. When a police officer and his/her service animal are hurt or killed in the line of duty, you only mourn the fate of the 'poor animal' and try to get laws passed to protect service animals instead of worrying about making punishments stiffer against crimes done to people. 29. Your rallying cry is "Save the animals! Kill the people!" 30. You actually ponder the veganity of fingernail biting, breast-feeding, or deep kissing. (Nerfman's original idea was not meant for all ages so was replaced.) 31. You're surprised that on the few occasions that you actually go into the woods, that all the deer and bunnies aren't hanging out with each other like in Bambi.-++++++ 32. You'll actually sit somewhere else rather than move your pet - excuse me, 'companion animal' off a chair, not because he's cute lying there - rather, it's a moral issue for you. 33. When you talk about your kids, you're actually talking about your pets. 34. You talk about your pets as "furkids" or "four-legged children" 35. You call your real children (the human ones) "skinkids" 36. You call yourself your pet's mommy/daddy/parent/guardian/steward, seeing yourself as the animal's mommy rather than its owner. 37. You give your cat a cradle to sleep in and refuse to take care of a human baby for a neighbor, claiming you haven't got a place for him to sleep. 38. You yank a candy bar out of a three-year-old child's hand, claiming it's bad for them and some animal died to provide the fat - while you feed your cat vegan cat food because you can't stand meat in the house. 39. You actually get sick at the thought of eating meat but think it's just fine to force a vegan diet on the rest of the world. 40. You can't distinguish between cattle feed and the food for the third world. 41. It's okay to bring meat into the house if it's for your "companion animals" but you call it "murder" if it's for human consumption - even if it comes from the same butcher or market. 42. You serve your cat fancy feast gourmet, while throwing bones and buckets of blood to children. (In reference to one of PEta's stupid campaigns against KFC.) 43. You claim feeding meat to children is child abuse, and you feed your cat a vegan diet. 44. You don't believe a cat is a cannibal for eating a mouse, but you call it cannibalism when a human eats a burger or any kind of animal product. 45. You promote real cannibalism and the maiming and killing of people who use animal products in order to save animals and solve the human overpopulation problem. 46. You are awe-struck at lions, wolves, or any wild animal carnivores showing their strength and stamina as they take down and eat their prey while it's still kicking - yet you sob crocodile tears over an animal's quick and painless death if some human benefits from it. 47. You package yourself up in a giant container that looks like a huge meat tray, strip and throw yourself on a pretend barbicue, put infants in turkey roasters or platters with all the trimmings, and other similar tasteless stunts in order to stop people from eating meat. 48. You dress up as a chicken to stop people from eating at KFC. 49. You dress up as a vegetable and show up at schools to tell the kiddies how much better you are for them to eat than meat or dairy. 50. You make out in public while chanting vegan mantras and exclamations of how much more sexy vegans are than those obese "meat-eating slobs". 51. You dress yourself in a tiger costume and put yourself in a cage to stop the circus. 52. You go naked to stop people from wearing fur. 53. You promote alcoholism over drinking milk any day. 54. You use unbelievably stupid terms like "earth raper" when going on a diatribe about how you think people are killing the environment. 55. You hate beekeepers because you believe they are bee-rapists. 56. You hate animal breeders because you think of them as pimps prostituting out animals. 57. You'd rather see a stiffer penalty for cutting down a tree than molesting a child. 58. You think women who own or wear fur deserve to be viciously raped. 59. You repeat horrible and sometimes campy gory stories about animal abuse that never really happened and then get terribly upset with anyone who dares to set the record straight and shatter your self-image as some sort of animal saint. 60. You believe all animals bred and living in captivity have overpopulation problems while the animals living in the wild utopias are all on the very brink of extinction because of humans. 61. You believe animals live idillic lives in the whild and any stress they have is minimal/natural, while animals living with humans are doomed to nothing but misery from birth to death. 62. You 'save' animals by killing them and putting their carcases in dumpsters. 63. You feel persecuted against because the wildlife management plans you and your buddies came up with in the coffee house isn't accepted by experienced field biologists. 64. You prefer watching Chicken Run over Trials of Life any day. 65. You think that anyone opposing you is a red neck, and have recurring nightmares about your car breaking down in West Virginia or Mississippi (listen to CDB's "Uneasy Rider" to aleave your fears) 66. You won't join the military due to the fact that you are a 'pacifist' and a vegan and also don't condone their non-vegan rations, yet call hunters cowards and sympathize with the ALF terrorists. 67. If given a chance to abolish hunting or the North American Man-Boy Love Association, you will get rid of hunting every time. 68. To promote veganism you memorize the names of twenty famous and brilliant vegetarians from history and make heedless reference to them every chance you get, forgetting that most weren't actually vegans and thus didn't share your beliefs to begin with. You also seemingly forget the other thousand brilliant people or so that were meat eating contemporaries of your heros. 69. You won't eat scallops or clams, which don't feel pain, even though you base your diet on preventing animal pain. 70. You spend a lot of your time on the internet writing about the evils of meat, and spend the rest of your time in the kitchen trying to make your vegan diet taste like meat. 71. Your family, not wanting to listen to your two hour diatribe about the evils of turkey farming on Thanksgiving, throw your tofurkey on the roof in an effort to actually get some peace and quiet. 72. You actually manage to convince yourself that tofu tastes good. 73. You are thrilled in your belief that you will live such a long and healthy life, but have a hard time finding someone to spend it with due to your 24 1/2 - 24 - 24 1/2 figure. 74. You drive through the ghetto, and when the poor people there take one look at you, they offer you their food stamps. 75. Your lack of B-12 and essential amino acids causes you partial loss of vision, which has the odd effect of making certain passages in the bible unreadable to you beyond what you can take of the book to twist into suiting your vegan idiology. 76. You're really good at smuggling narcotics because the depressions between your ribs are so deep. 77. Three months after you start your vegan diet, your father is happy because he thinks you are cutting weight for the state wrestling championships. 78. When you poop, the stench can clean out a skyscraper. 79. You scream about how eating animals will kill humans prematurely while drawing noxious fumes from your (clove) cigarette into your lungs. 80. You leap on the food-cop bandwagon and join the cry to ban everything that tastes good while hyping as many bogus studies and statistics as you can that tell you why organic food and any other current "health" trend is the only best and safe thing while fast food is a heart attack on a plate that will make you gain a ton just by looking at it. 81. You get mad when reading 68-80 because it's so not nice to joke about pitfalls of a vegan diet, yet you love anti-hunting jokes, and think it's fine with you for PEta to hand out flashcards that depict meat eaters as obese slobs who are all going to die of heart disease and get what PEta and you think they deserve. 82. You get mad when reading 68-80 because as a vegetarian, your feelings have been hurt. so you consequently are too cheesed off to find any of this list funny, ranting about it being nothing but crap and so on. 83. You're into some really creepy and sick activities I.E. bondage&discipline, domination/submission, in other words, inflicting pain on yourself or someone else with your/their consent - but can't find a master or slave with only vegan, non-leather accessories. 84. Virtual BDSM isn't real or disgusting enough for you, So, you instead get your jollies watching faked up PEta videos and reading horrible stories about animals being tortured or you participate in acts of staging abuse for the camera while shouting to anyone you can how compassionate and caring for the animals you think you are. 85. You think it's horribly cruel and depraved to keep or breed animals as pets, livestock or working animals, but you vigorously defend BDSM, polyamory or any other icky lifestyle choices you're into. 86. You're sad, because the only other person you met that actually shared your views turned out to be an undercover FBI agent. 87. You've actually considered pipe bombing the producer of "B.J. and the Bear" due to his heedless exploitation of animals. 88. You would save a bright dog and leave a disabled child behind if you had to choose which to save. 89. You go to release hawks, eagles, owls and vultures from what you have judged as the horrid captivity of the facility designed to promote a better understanding of these animals and are genuinely shocked that the raptors would rather rend flesh from your bones than go flying around you in gratitude for freeing them. 90. The last thing you ever see in the wild is the untamed bear/wolf/large cat that you claimed you trusted and would never ever attack you. 91. You proudly but naively proclaim yourself to be a friend of all animals or that all animals are your friends. 92. You believe all domestic animals that are not considered "show quality" registered with ACK etc are the only animals to be allowed to breed. All others are considered junk animals which were always the result of some "backyard breeding" (term you use to condemn most anyone who has bred any animals) even if they are in good health, and no one can judge that better than you can, because you need to be the great animal hero. 93. You consider it incredibly vain, selfish, and abusive to keep breeding animals, and to breed them for specific characteristics, even good health and temperment. You live by the "Don't buy while others die" motto that promotes the shutting down of animal shows, breeders, and shops, while hounding people to 'adopt' from 'shelters' instead. 94. You believe guide dogs are poorly treated slaves that need to be liberated from their owners who must be cruel to actually let an animal help guide him instead of depending on people taking time out of their busy schedules to help out. 95. You believe pets are slaves and/or that farm animals are slaves in concentration camps. 96. You consider humans killing animals for food to be as grevous as the holocaust or 911 or any human tragedy. 97. Your idea of mercy is stealing dogs and cats, killing them, and leaving their bodies in dumpsters. 98. Your idea of good entertainment is swapping animal abuse stories. The gorier and more outlandish, the better, even if there's not a grain of truth in them.. 99. You don't question or disagree with any myth, chain email petition or tale of animal suffering because you're terribly afraid some animal will die somewhere and it would be your fault. You guilt-trip anyone similarly if you find them questioning, disagreeing with or refuting animal rights rhetoric. To even think about the possibility let alone find out the abuse tale was a lie totally blows your status from hero to fool, and that's unbearable to you. 100. Your idea of compassion and how to be a good person is to start or join a gossip fest against an animal owner you have decided is irresponsible or cruel, or an establishment that uses animal products. You hope to stop them from ever owning another animal and do your best to make sure people believe every gory, twisted, distorted or just plain stupid false accusation you can dream up. 101. You give out personal information of people you claim are abusing animals and demand that everyone bombard them with hate mail. 102. You start a fight that you lose, and then you attack people with presumptions of animal abuse, not being Christian enough when they disagree with you about animals, and act as if you were the one being victimized in order to try bullying the others into submitting to agreeing with you. 103. You believe in saving the animals by abusing the humans. 104. You actually wish for disease or some other disaster to come along and wipe out the evil human population. 105. When a natural disaster such as a hurricane hits and relief is underway, you try to do one better and put out a call to "Save those poor animals!" 106. You gladly believe anything that villifies and promotes hatred of your own species, the human race. 107. You delight in the suffering of humans either inflicted by other humans or especially by animals. 108. You have an uncontrollable fear and rage that some human, somewhere, might be happy. This must mean some animal is being cruelly exploited somewhere. So, your mission is to squeltch all happiness by making people feel bad for being human. This means spreading as many wild tales of gloom and doom about animal abuse, overpopulation of unwanted pets and of humans, the destruction of the environment, and the end of the human race - possibly all in that order. You top that off by saying it is all their fault, then you lament the first several scenarios while awaiting the last - the end of the human race with a sense of puritanical self-righteousness and a kind of perverse delight. 109. Nothing man or God does concerning animals can come close to satisfactory for you. You know so much more than they do! 110. You either hate religion that's centered around the Bible or else use it as a tool to tout your animal rights views. 111. You read stuff like this and get angry instead of getting a good laugh out of it. 112. You read stuff like this and respond by posting your own list somewhere that isn't really funny or interesting at all. 113. You read stuff like this and get upset because it's too accurate a description of you for comfort.
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How many animal rescue/rights/welfarists does it take to change a light bulb? 1% to notice the light is burned out and post it to the forum. 20% to start a discussion on whether or not it's cruel to use and change light bulbs at all. 50% to start ranting about who was at fault for leaving the light on so long. 50% to say that light bulbs burning out is a natural occurance and to deny they were the ones to leave the light on. 20% to post pictures of some of the 50% who were said to have a history of burned out bulbs. 35% to counterpost pics and stories of the 20% with their own light bulbs burned out. 60% to lambaste the rest about the cruelty of changing the light bulb when the burned out bulb had given its all and this is the thanks it gets? 10% to crosspost the light bulb abuse stories to other forums along with dire DNA (Do Not Adopt!" warnings. 1% to start a private email war and send hatemail to a fellow member. 5% to join in and gang up via private email. 5% to forward any responses from the harassee far and wide to other forums with notes about how cruel this person is for working his light bulb to death. 2% to post lame attempts at poetry about the cruel light bulb abuse cases, replete with cussing and namecalling, and dumb speculations about what an old or ugly person they're writing about. 50% to praise the not-so-poetic attempts as absolute "masterpieces!" 40% to offer to start a light bulb sanctuary but they need funds for the upkeep. 10% to say that's a great idea but they can't donate because they haven't got the money to spare. 75% continuing to discuss the ethics of the use of light bulbs, with the majority agreeing it is better to remain in the dark. 25% yelling at the rest to stop beating their chests and get on with what's really important, light bulb care!
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Quackers and Buggy Subject: [duckrescue] one more thing... I have to vent about stupidity!!!! Date: 10/25/06 2:55:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: flduckgirl@yahoo.comReply-to: duckrescue@yahoogroups.comTo: duckrescue@yahoogroups.comSent from the Internet (Details) When I went to pay for my new "ducky muck" shoes in Goodwill, the STUPID girl behind the counter said "oh, do you hunt?" WHAT?!?!! (excuse me while I throw up) I said "I MOST CERTAINLY DO NOT HUNT!!! I'm part of a duck RESCUE network that SAVES ducks and that's what these shoes are for!!!" The STUPID girl says "oh, I raise my ducks to eat them... but, I have a pet turkey I'd never dream of eating." It took every ounce of energy I had to not jump across the counter at this STUPID white-trash redneck woman... I just had to say "we don't need to discuss this issue any more then... I don't eat birds, I'm a vegetarian." Sometimes it's really hard for this city girl living in the "Redneck Riviera"... From: "Pug Lady" Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 7:40 PM Subject: Re: this was on a list I'm on Oh, heaven forbid someone raise an animal, know exactly what's in it, and then...gasp..eat it!! What a bunch of crap... Rebeca From: "Pug Lady" Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 8:26 PM Subject: Re: this was on a list I'm on And what's with "duck rescue" anyways? I mean..we have about a bizillion ducks around here-They've upped the hunting season length because there are so many! What's next? Deer rescue? Yeah..we need to save more of those suckers so they can stand in the middle of the damn road at midnight and cause more accidents!!! Geesh..just what the hood of my car needs..more deer... Rebeca From: "Indy" Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:42 PM Subject: Re: this was on a list I'm on You see, Rebeca, the "rescues" want to "rescue" ducks and deer from humanity so they can die out in the wild from overpopulation and starvation as well as disease, and even more importantly, those ducks need to be "saved" from hunters so they can get ripped apart alive by wolves and coyotes that need to eat and are far more cruel at killing than any human hunter worth his/her salt! Now THAT is "compassion"! :P Geez, that "rescuer" post is going into the 'terminally stupid' section of the site I'm working on. Duckgirl should've been shown the door for throwing such an idiotic fit over a simple question. -Indy From: "Thelma" Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:44 AM Subject: Re:this was on a list I'm on... Now Rat Rescue From: "Indy" Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:26 AM Subject: Re: Re:this was on a list I'm on... Now Rat Rescue Yes, they will "rescue" anything to make a dollar and puff their egos up. -Indy From: "Thelma" Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:38 AM Subject: Re: Re:this was on a list I'm on... Now Rat Rescue Think i'll start a group to rescue tadpoles. Or maybe lettuce. Or slugs...I know I'll start rescuing and rehoming Flies. Anyone want to send me your hard earned money for this cause? I'm not sure what I should charge for an adoption fee. $25.00 ? From: "Valerie" Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:17 PM Subject: Re: this was on a list I'm on... Now Rat Rescue I have an almost unnatural aversion to ticks, so while you're at it, could you please rehome them to another area of the country...specifically wherever that "city girl living in the redneck riviera" lives (the one who was horrified that someone actually eats duck), that's be good! My boyfriend in in South Dakota pheasant hunting this week...I can't wait to cook pheasant...yum!!! haha, have a good one! Val From: "Jasmine" Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [spam] Re: Re:this was on a list I'm on... Now Rat Rescue Oh! I want to start one for mosquitoes! They're so misunderstood -sniggers- And I'll make more money than you, cause I'll charge $50 adoption fee! Jasmine From: "Indy" Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:36 PM Subject: Re: Re:this was on a list I'm on... Now Rat Rescue Lol Sure! Maybe I'll start a mosquito rescue and charge a 60$ "adoption" fee, which also includes speuter of course! Lol -Indy From: "Indy" Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [spam] Re: Re:this was on a list I'm on... Now Rat Rescue Drat Jasmine, okay, you can do the mosquito rescue! Ticks are spoken for as well I see, so, hmmmmm, I'll start one for hornets! Oh, and maybe a germ and virus one as well, after all, those poor viruses have a right to live without abuse and getting slaughtered too! Lololol -Indy From: "PLW" Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:02 PM Subject: Re: Re:this was on a list I'm on... Now Rat Rescue If nothing else....you guys keep me laughing....I would love to help with the mosquito rescue when you get it set up....we have lots of lost ones around here! We'll get rich and give the ARs a run for their money!! Thanks for the laugh....I do enjoy this group! PeggyLW From: "Thelma" Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [spam] Re: Re:this was on a list I'm on... Now Rat Rescue Well we could work together and then we both would make lots of money..I could foster for you. From: "Thelma" Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [spam] Re: Re:this was on a list I'm on... Now Rat Rescue If you doing hornets I ain't fostering for you LOL From: "Indy" Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [spam] Re: Re:this was on a list I'm on... Now Rat Rescue Aw, shucks, Thelma! You won't foster hornets!? What kind of uncaring - and you call yourself a rescue!? Lolololol! -Indy From: "Indy" Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:20 PM Subject: Re: Re:this was on a list I'm on... Now Rat Rescue Hehe! You're welcome, and oh yes, definitely, those poor lost mosquitoes! Roflol! I'm taking in hornets and people wanting to "adopt" babies will have to put down a 10$ deposit, adoption fee is 100$ altogether! Oh, and I don't breed, just collect the babies from the backyard nests of all the backyard hornet breeders! -Indy From: "Thelma" Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [spam] Re: Re:this was on a list I'm on... Now Rat Rescue Well I might if you reimburse me for my work From: "Indy" Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [spam] Re: Re:this was on a list I'm on... Now Rat Rescue Lol Sorry, whatever happens if they're in your custody I'm not liable for. Bwahahaha! -Indy From: "Pug Lady" Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [spam] Re: Re:this was on a list I'm on... Now Rat Rescue You're not going to ..gasp..BREED these mosquitoes are you??!!! These BABIES need our love. We need to save them ALL, and nurture and love them! I can t buy new shoes for my kid, but we'll have 50 billion friggin' mosquitoes saved and counting! All of our money should go towards the skeeters!!! You re just using them to make a quick buck! What kind of a "buggy mill" are you running? I'm going to call all of my friends, and we'll sneek in and release these winged KIDS! I'll also call Florida reps, and see what they ll do! You know, the mosquito is Florida's state bird!! So now the whole state of Florida hates you!! ROFLMAO !!! Rebeca From: "Indy" Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [spam] Re: Re:this was on a list I'm on... Now Rat Rescue ROTFLOL! I'm laughing too hard to do anything constructive now! "Winged kids" "Florida's state bird" "buggy mill" and so many other hilarious statements in this post, Rebeca! I'm including this thread in the humor section of my page! -Indy From: "Kathryn Murray" Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:48 AM Subject: Re: Re:this was on a list I'm on... Now Rat Rescue Can we do raids on homes where we think they have fly strips hanging? I know of several barns we can raid ! Those horrible farmers don't care what they are doing when they hang those things up !! I think we should make a video of the torture those flys endure once they are STUCK on the strips and take minutes to die.!!! Maybe we can get the national geographic channel to air the video or do you think it may traumatize some viewers ???? KM From: "Bunny Maddox" Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 6:06 AM Subject: Re: Re:this was on a list I'm on... Now Rat Rescue Looks around to see who is watching and quickly removes fly strips. From: "Kathryn Murray" Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 6:46 AM Subject: Re: Re:this was on a list I'm on... Now Rat Rescue ahhhh haaaa............. WE have one right here !!!! Bunny Bunny Bunny...........! (head shaking sadly) KM From: "Bunny Maddox" Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 7:43 AM Subject: Re: Re:this was on a list I'm on... Now Rat Rescue What can I say I didn't know any better. From: "maggie" Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 12:35 PM Subject: Re: Re:this was on a list I'm on... Now Rat Rescue You can't do that. I have two fly strips hanging. From: "mammyyokum" Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 1:29 PM Subject: Re:this was on a list I'm on... Now Rat Rescue Sorry, but PeTA's apparently already gotten into saving the lives of insects and vermin and to protect them from "suffering". From: "Indy" Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 1:39 PM Subject: Re: Re:this was on a list I'm on... Now Rat Rescue Yes, but you know what PEta's idea of saving is, don't you? Be on the lookout for tons of dead flies at a dumpster near you! -Indy From: "Kathryn Murray" Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 2:29 PM Subject: Re: Re:this was on a list I'm on... Now Rat Rescue Good to know Maggie. We will use YOUR home to make our tragic video !!! Then we will show it on tv. You're in trouble now. KM
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Friday, June 05, 2009
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On another wacko hangout
One "animal rescuer" passes away, and the other "rescuers" peck each other's eyes out over it and how good they think they are. helpfuldogclub · Helpful DOG Club - Helpful Tips Remedies
Bev Miller's final farewell - crossposted with the author's permissi Message List Reply | Forward Message #16316 of 16872 < Prev | Next > ----- Original Message ----- From: Edalee Handley To: Boston-Terrier@yahoogroups.comSent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 1:45 PM Subject: Bev Millers final farewell...................... I just wanted to thank everyone who sent flowers to Bev's Memorial Service yesterday. They were just beautiful and so appreciated by all her family. Bev's Mother Virginia is having a really hard time dealing with both the loss of a daughter and a granddaughter. Life isn't suppose to be that way. Also, thanks to everyone who sent beautiful memorials to her guest books. Thanks Arlene and Merr Klink for her beautiful tribute websites. As always Arlene, you went above and beyond with your kindness. Bev was cremated and her ashes were buried at Dana's feet. Now they truly will spend eternity together in the arms of Jesus guiding us and protecting our beloved Boston Terriers. In a couple of weeks, I will be going to Hiawatha to pick up Bev's personal dogs and foster dogs and bring them back to Texas. Since Gary is now blind, he will be moving to town to live with his brother and can only take one dog with him. Dana's Boxer Gunner has already moved in with Tonda. He is now 13 and the picture of health. Bev and Gary have done such a wonderful job taking care of him since Dana died. And to the typically classless, poor white trash person Stinky that sent these emails to public lists and ones much nastier to many of Bev and my close friends, I have a few words for you now that the morning period is over. Nothing would make me happier than for you to drive to Hiawatha in your economy car and meet me face to face at Bev's gravesite when I return. I will be happy to email you the time and date and then I can give Bev the gift of finally lowering myself to your level and giving you a good lesson about respecting the dead. Please be sure to bath, shave and put on clean clothes for a change, because I do not want to dirty my hands anymore than I have to by giving you this lesson. I will be the one in the Lincoln Town Car and I will not be hiding behind my computer spewing venom like you do. I doubt also that Ebay cares one way or another that all this got posted. Just to let you know, Ebay is a website where people buy and sell things. Sometimes you just can't teach stupid. This is the last I will say on the subject but I too, am entitled to one email as a response. Edalee
PERMISSION GLADLY GIVEN TO POST MY RESPONSE ANYWHERE YOU WANT TO POST! _____________________________________________________________________ ___ _____________________________________________________________________ ___ Message: 1 Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 06:24:30 -0500 From: "TheLuckyOnes@..." .. Subject: RE: Mary Stickney What me going to her funeral is that a bad thing? I do not hold her accountable for her nastiness , she was a sick woman. I wish I had know she was sick , I would have just ignored her nastiness.
Now you have no excuse, I bet you won't have the decency to show up to pay your respects to the woman you say is your friend. and thanks for Cross posting.... its against eBay's terms of service and Comcast and AOL.. _____ For those of you who are still in denial, here is incontrovertible proof that Mary Stickney is a thoroughly vile and despicable excuse for a human being. Here is a conversation between her and her equally loathsome friend Joan Stambaugh, gloating over the death of Bev Miller, a caring and compassionate woman who didn't have a mean bone in her body, whose life's mission was to save and rehabilitate Boston Terriers released from puppy mills. It is simply not possible to get much lower than this. It's bad enough that Mary was so cruel and hateful to Bev when she was alive - particularly in the aftermath of the tragic death of Bev's daughter, Dana - but to at least not have the decorum and good taste to remain silent after her death if she couldn't say anything nice, is beyond my comprehension. Mary Stickney is a woman completely lacking in breeding or manners and doesn't have an ounce of human compassion toward her fellow man or the animals that are unfortunate enough to come into her House of Horrors. I hope that this will finally make people wake up and see what a walking pile of human debris she really is. Mary, you are not fit to utter or write Bev's name. You should hang your head in shame. It would really be worth the trip just to see their faces... But you know they would tell some horrific lie on you if they could think of one.
Some people are just bitter until the very end... Bev was just one of those people, I guess.... I thought about it, I am not that far from there at all and EdaLIE and Brenda will probably be there LOL Just to see the look on their faces when I walked in would be worth it.
you know If I had know she was so sick , I could have over looked some of her Nastiness Mary, I know you are heart-broken over this, so I am assuming you will be making the trip to KS, right? Joanie Mary Stickney < TheLuckyOnes@M...> wrote: Obituaries Beverly June Miller (October 20, 1944 - June 4, 2005) Sign Guest Book | Send Private Condolences Chapel Oaks Funeral Home 124 S. 7th St. Hiawatha, KS 66434 785 742 2212 FAX 785 742 7319 email-chapeloaks2004@y... DEATHS---HIAWATHA Beverly June Miller, 60, of rural Hiawatha died Saturday morning, June 4, 2005 at the Heartland East Hospital in St. Joseph, MO. She was born in Horton, KS October 20, 1944 to Robert and Virginia Miller Carter. Bev attended school in Hiawatha before moving to California. While in California, her love for Boston Terriers grew. Bev not only showed Boston’s, but she also became a breeder. In 1977, Beverly and her family returned to Hiawatha, where she took over the family business with Farmer’s Insurance. Bev continued her love of Boston Terriers by volunteering numerous hours and opening her home to Rescues. She was preceded in death by her daughter, Dana Maselter, her father, Robert Carter and her grandparents, George W. and Marie Miller. She is survived by her mother, Virginia Carter, a daughter and son-in-law, LaTonda and Johnny Goodson , granddaughters, Megan and Kristin all of Hiawatha. Also surviving are granddaughter, Nicole and her husband, Adrian Lee, a great-grandson Kaiden all of Clovis, N.M. Gary Davis her companion for years, survives of the home. Memorial Graveside Services are planned for 1 p.m., Wednesday, June 8, 2005 at the Mt. Hope Cemetery in Hiawatha. Pastor Jim Akins will officiate. The family will meet with friends from 7-8:00 p.m., Tuesday evening at the Chapel Oaks Funeral Home in Hiawatha. Memorials are suggested to Breast Cancer Awareness or the Boston Terrier Rescue, all of which may be sent in care of the funeral home, 124 S. 7th St. Hiawatha, KS 66434.
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More Animal Welfare "Rescue" Moronics And yes, this is yet another all too typical demonstration of how "rescuers" act. This time they're turning on several of their own - including the one that harassed the pet shop worker. I tried to get rid of seriously foul language, so if I missed anything, sorry, but I just did replace-all on any terms I could think of that might have been there. These animal welfare "rescues" do what they do best, sniping at each other because of appearance, a lot of them are real buttkissers for the food-cop agendas too, and attack fellow "rescuers" for perceived obesity, which is just as much of a crime in the animal activist mindset as animal abuse. Along with that, they are downing one another over animal care, with false animal abuse stories and poems flying. Notice how they claim the next "rescuer" is false or "pretends to run a sanctuary" etc. If you look beyond the grade-school insult calling, you can see the animal "rescue" welfare message at work that says "I'm the very best, I care about the animals, and the person I hate, does not and is not a real rescuer" etc. -- poodieisamutt · Poodie Is A Mutt Info Settings Group Information Members: 7 Category: Poodle Founded: Jul 12, 2005 Language: English Group Settings Membership does not require approval Messages do not require approval All members can post messages Email attachments are permitted Members cannot hide email address Listed in directory Activity within 7 days:(No Activity) Description A place to discuss why Poodie is a mutt and not a purebred poodle. I mean, does this look like a poodle to you? Trolls will be radically excised. (Photograph courtesy of Stinky Enterprises, Ltd.) #22 From: Poodie IsAMutt poodieisamutt@yahoo.com Date: Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:41 am Subject: It's Poetry Day!! poodieisamutt Offline Send Email Any group members who like to dabble in poetry are encouraged to post a sampling of their creations. Here are a few of my offerings: Mary, Mary, fat and scary Pretends to run a Sanctuary But it's a house of death and pain Where filth and stench and fear all reign. ************************************************ Joan, Joan the big fat crone Did nothing at all but bitch and moan And chain rescue dogs to a pickup bumper And no man in the world would ever hump her. ***************************************************** Little Poodie, poorly bred Badly groomed, incorrectly fed Belongs to Kim, drunk out of his head And was purchased because poor Missy's dead. *********************************************************** Stinky, Stinky in the nude Had porkchops to be barbecued It put her guests right off their food And she couldn't understand their attitude. ********************************************************** Stinky, Stinky feeding raw
Forgot to let the muttloaf thaw So she cooked some mac and cheese And served it with a can of peas. ************************************************ Mary, Mary lost her cherry On the tenth of January And the recipient of this easy lay Decided he was turning gay. ************************************************ A doctor said the weight of Joan Was getting near the danger zone He told her she must slim and tone And leave those Snickers bars alone. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (4) #23 From: "Lynn Collea-Price" lhasaluvr@myactv.net Date: Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:46 am Subject: Re: It's Poetry Day!! shelterpetzg... Offline Send Email ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! here's my favs! Joan, Joan the big fat crone Did nothing at all but bitch and moan And chain rescue dogs to a pickup bumper And no man in the world would ever hump her. Mary, Mary lost her cherry On the tenth of January And the recipient of this easy lay Decided he was turning gay. Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (4) #24 From: Cynthia Hendrick sindee@tmail.com Date: Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:19 am Subject: Re: It's Poetry Day!! sindee@tmail.com Send Email OH GOODY GOODY! WHAT FUN! I knew there was a special reason why I joined this list that I just couldn't put my finger on! GREAT WORKS OF ART! Lemmie have a go at it!..... --- Joan, Joan, You live in fear Of getting caught With your hand up your rear. --- You treat your dogs No better than shit. And then wonder why, Upon your feet, people spit. --- All you do Is bitch and moan. That's why we call you Joan, the Groan. --- You gorge your face With greasy meats and sweets, While we all mourn The puppies you beat. --- Where, oh where Could my bunny be? First, on Joan's grill And then rotting in her belly. --- When, oh when Will the horrors end? Hey Joan, ***sticking up middle finger***.... SIT -N- SPIN! Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (4) #25 From: Cynthia Hendrick sindee@tmail.com Date: Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:23 am Subject: Re: It's Poetry Day!! sindee@tmail.com Send Email I AM SOOOOO GONNA HAFTA FRAME THIS BAD BOY..... (MARVELOUS WORK, MS. POODIE's A MUTT!!!!!!) Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (4) #26 From: Poodie IsAMutt poodieisamutt@yahoo.com Date: Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:15 am Subject: Another poem poodieisamutt Offline Send Email When you wish upon a star In your cheap economy car You might get a purebred poodle And a Lincoln too. Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (1) #27 From: Poodie IsAMutt poodieisamutt@yahoo.com Date: Wed Jul 13, 2005 9:27 pm Subject: More poetry poodieisamutt Offline Send Email Joan, Joan, all alone Called Stinky on the telephone It rang and rang; she should have known That Stinky was busy on the throne. Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (6) #28 From: Cynthia Hendrick sindee@tmail.com Date: Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:29 pm Subject: Re: More poetry sindee@tmail.com Send Email GREAT JOB!...... --- How bout this.... --- Mary, Mary, Morbidly obese... Longed for the day That she could get a piece. --- She searched and searched For a handsome player. But she was so ugly That no man would have her. ----------------------------------- Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (6) #29 From: Poodie IsAMutt poodieisamutt@yahoo.com Date: Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:43 pm Subject: Re: More poetry poodieisamutt Offline Send Email I like it. Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (6) #30 From: Poodie IsAMutt poodieisamutt@yahoo.com Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:15 am Subject: The poetry keeps flowing poodieisamutt Offline Send Email Kim, Kim, drunk and dim Laid a new floor but forgot the trim Wears no shirt, 'cause he thinks he's slim But won't let Stinky sleep with him. #31 From: Elaine atatyme2002@yahoo.com Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:17 am Subject: Re: The poetry keeps flowing atatyme2002 Offline Send Email YEAH!!!!!!!!!! APPLAUSE! APPLAUSE! I LIKE THIS ONE Poodie IsAMutt poodieisamutt@yahoo.com wrote: Kim, Kim, drunk and dim Laid a new floor but forgot the trim Wears no shirt, 'cause he thinks he's slim But won't let Stinky sleep with him. Elaine Manor New Hope Animal Rescue Sidney, Ohio 501 C3 Pending "until there are none, save one" Mom to Kelsea, Betsy, Brownie and Sammy In Memory of: Beau our Yorky, Star our Catahoula, Duncan our Rottie and Dutchess our Rottie. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (6) #32 From: "CorunDogs" corundogs@charter.net Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:22 am Subject: Re: The poetry keeps flowing corundogs1969 Offline Send Email This is absolutely priceless!!!! Bren Brenda, Duke, Jack, Hannah and Meghan Assisting Rescued Boston Terriers To the World, you are just a person.....to a Rescue Dog, you are the World!!! Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (6) #33 From: Poodie IsAMutt poodieisamutt@yahoo.com Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:23 am Subject: Re: The poetry keeps flowing poodieisamutt Offline Send Email Joan, Joan, her money's blown Stole a kiddie's ice cream cone Cannot have her pictures shown 'Cause she's ugly to the bone. Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (6) #34 From: Poodie IsAMutt poodieisamutt@yahoo.com Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:42 am Subject: To Stinky poodieisamutt Offline Send Email Drinking coffee from a jar Shows the world what trash you are More than just a bit bizarre, Not to mention your economy car. To get new dogs you must drive far, Because your rescue's not up to par. Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (2) #35 From: "llamahag" llamahag@yahoo.com Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:09 am Subject: Re: More poetry llamahag Offline Send Email shouldn't that be lay her instead of have her? She searched and searched > For a handsome player. > But she was so ugly > That no man would lay her. Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (6) #36 From: "llamahag" llamahag@yahoo.com Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:11 am Subject: Re: To Stinky llamahag Offline Send Email YES!!!!!!! high five --- In poodieisamutt@yahoogroups.com, Poodie IsAMutt poodieisamutt@y...> wrote: > Drinking coffee from a jar > Shows the world what trash you are > More than just a bit bizarre, > Not to mention your economy car. > To get new dogs you must drive far, > Because your rescue's not up to par. Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (2) #37 From: Poodie IsAMutt poodieisamutt@yahoo.com Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:13 am Subject: Here's one for Joan poodieisamutt Offline Send Email Bryan, Bryan, Joanie's lyin' About those diamonds she says you're buyin'. The photos show there's no denyin' The dogs in her care are cryin'. And no matter how hard she's tryin', She cannot keep the truth from flyin'. Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (1) #38 From: Cynthia Hendrick sindee@tmail.com Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:15 am Subject: Another Poem.... sindee@tmail.com Send Email Stinky Mary went to the mill To fetch some poor dog for breeding. The dog was worn out From all the litters she's had. For that, Stinky gave her a beating. --- Back to the mill, Stinky went. "I want a good dog for all the money I spent!" "Gimmie a young dog," Stinky did shout, As she scratched her @$$ and picked her snout. --- On their way home, The dog made Stinky mad. So Stinky beat her For being so "bad". --- Once they were home, Stinky threw her in a crate. The dog tried to get out, But she couldn't escape. --- "Where's my dinner!?!?!?!," Kim did yell. Stinky told him to go to hell. She went online to harass everyone, And once she was finished, the dog was gone. --- Stinky looked for the dog, But all she found was Kim Sitting on the couch With a full belly and an evil grin. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------.. -------------------- Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (3) #39 From: Cynthia Hendrick sindee@tmail.com Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:17 am Subject: Re: Re: More poetry sindee@tmail.com Send Email HAHAHA! Ofcorse.... Makes much more sense! Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (6) #40 From: Poodie IsAMutt poodieisamutt@yahoo.com Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:20 am Subject: Re: Another Poem.... poodieisamutt Offline Send Email I like that one!! Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (3) #41 From: Cynthia Hendrick sindee@tmail.com Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:42 am Subject: Re: Re: More poetry sindee@tmail.com Send Email Groanie Joanie fell on the ground, And her fat @$$ busted the concrete. As Stinky Mary tried to help her up, Groanie Joanie nibbled on her feet. --- Snotty Tiffy grew so jealous, Because Groanie wouldn't share Stinky's toe-jam. So, to shut the bitch up, in Tiffy's mouth, A rescued easter bunny Groanie did cram. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------.. -------------------------- Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (6) #43 From: Cynthia Hendrick sindee@tmail.com Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:03 am Subject: Re: The poetry keeps flowing sindee@tmail.com Send Email RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!! Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (6) #44 From: Cynthia Hendrick sindee@tmail.com Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:06 am Subject: Re: The poetry keeps flowing sindee@tmail.com Send Email ROFLMFAOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! **APPLAUSE APPLAUSE APPLAUSE** **CLAPPING CHEERING CLAPPING CHEERING** Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (6) #45 From: Cynthia Hendrick sindee@tmail.com Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:14 am Subject: More Poetry sindee@tmail.com Send Email POOR OLD JOAN ISN'T HAVIN ANY FUN CUZ HER RAUNCHY HUSBAND WON'T GIVE HER NONE. --- SHE CRIES AND SCREAMS AND RANTS AND RAVES, BUT BRYAN REFUSES TO SURF THOSE JELLO WAVES. --- Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (1) #46 From: Cynthia Hendrick sindee@tmail.com Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:18 am Subject: Re: Another Poem.... sindee@tmail.com Send Email I'm so glad. :-) I aim to please. LOL Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (3) #47 From: Poodie IsAMutt poodieisamutt@yahoo.com Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:03 pm Subject: Joanie poodieisamutt Offline Send Email Joanie, Joanie thinks she's rich Calls herself the Concrete Bitch But $15 an hour ain't no fortune, To feed and clothe her huge proportions. Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (3) #48 From: "Lynn Collea-Price" lhasaluvr@myactv.net Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:05 pm Subject: Re: Joanie shelterpetzg... Offline Send Email HAHA! Good one. Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (3) #49 From: Cynthia Hendrick sindee@tmail.com Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:13 pm Subject: Re: Joanie sindee@tmail.com Send Email A MASTERPIECE!!!!!!!!!!! Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (3) #50 From: Poodie IsAMutt poodieisamutt@yahoo.com Date: Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:52 am Subject: Lest Tiffany thinks we forgot her ... poodieisamutt Offline Send Email Tiffany, Tiffany on the prowl Applies her makeup with a trowel The men all wince, the dogs all growl All agree she's pretty foul. Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (3) #51 From: Poodie IsAMutt poodieisamutt@yahoo.com Date: Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:53 am Subject: Another gem for Joanie poodieisamutt Offline Send Email Joanie, Joanie eating ham Deviled eggs and bread and jam All the food that she can cram Gaining weight? Who gives a damn!! Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (2) #52 From: Tiffany & KC highvoltageapbt@yahoo.com Date: Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:40 am Subject: Re: Lest Tiffany thinks we forgot her ... highvoltageapbt Send IM Send Email That was pretty good. It ALMOST made sense. Keep trying you'll get the hang of it. Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (3) #53 From: Poodie IsAMutt poodieisamutt@yahoo.com Date: Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:57 am Subject: Re: Lest Tiffany thinks we forgot her ... poodieisamutt Offline Send Email I'm sure it will make perfect sense to you once you read it five or six more times. If not, feel free to ask and one of us will be happy to explain. Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (3) #54 From: Cynthia Hendrick sindee@tmail.com Date: Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:54 am Subject: Re: Another gem for Joanie sindee@tmail.com Send Email Groanie Joanie gnawing on bones, Licking lollies as she bitches and moans. --- Groanie Joanie snorting bacon. She wants some cookies but already ate'em. --- Groanie Joanie chewing grass. Bryan bends over so she can lick his @$$. --- Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (2) #55 From: Poodie IsAMutt poodieisamutt@yahoo.com Date: Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:40 am Subject: For dearest Joan poodieisamutt Offline Send Email Joanie, Joanie has no class Went to charm school, didn't pass. Loud, obnoxious, rude and crass, She needs a good kick in the @$$. Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (11) #56 From: Poodie IsAMutt poodieisamutt@yahoo.com Date: Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:02 pm Subject: A few more for Our Joanie poodieisamutt Offline Send Email Joan, Joan is a dork Eats her meals with a silage fork Every time she takes a dump Has to have the septic pumped. Joan on a transport took an ax And gave a rescue forty whacks And so as not to be out done She gave the puppy forty-one. Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (1) #57 From: FreeTROLLInfo Here freetrollinfo@yahoo.com Date: Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:27 am Subject: Fwd: [TrollsRLiars] Here is my poem for Cynthia..... freetrollinfo Offline Send Email We all know she will NEVER have this kind of man, yet it is her dream.... The dream she has each and every day....... Cynthia, Cynthia, trashy and impure loves a crunchy man all the more, all day long he smokes his dope, as she sits and loses all hope. Maybe one day he'll go out to play, and she will get herself a new lay.... Sweet and clean, the man of her dreams and upon her cheek, he regularly creams. Tall, and handsome, white and pure, he shove "old chocolate" out the door. Joanie Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (2) #58 From: "freetrollinfo" freetrollinfo@yahoo.com Date: Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:29 am Subject: Re: For dearest Joan freetrollinfo Offline Send Email I'd pay just to see you try that one.... if you have the nerve. Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (11) #59 From: "Lynn Collea-Price" lhasaluvr@myactv.net Date: Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:37 am Subject: Re: Re: For dearest Joan shelterpetzg... Offline Send Email Well I DO have "the nerve." You have promised to come to MD for two years now. BRING YOUR @$$ HERE! Now don't start with the "you come here" BS. YOu have promised to come HERE. BRING IT ON LARDASS. Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (11) #60 From: "thehardluckhounds" thehardluckhounds@yahoo.com Date: Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:56 am Subject: Re: For dearest Joan thehardluckh... Offline Send Email Tell you what you mental freak, I'd go tot he trouble to meet your nasty @$$ half way. That is if you can bilke some more money out of those idiots whom you are telling you are 501(c)(3). How dare you chain out that poor cocker spaniel without any food, water or shelter!! I have also forwarded all of the info around to ALL the shelters that I know you attempt to work with. YOU WILL BE BANNED FROM ALL ONCE I AM DONE WITH YOU!!!! So, what day do you want to meet half way?? Pick a day and let me know. Or will I have to give you gas money so you can get there?? Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (11) #61 From: FreeTROLLInfo Here freetrollinfo@yahoo.com Date: Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:15 am Subject: A poem for Lynn the BITCH freetrollinfo Offline Send Email There was one a bitch named Lynn who's tongue hung to her chin. She was starved and sick, even tried to chold old hubby's (offending word deleted). Then one bright day to the AR group's dismay she creeped to the butcher shop and there the spittle began to drop!! She spent her government funds on some big steaks and seasame buns. Quickly she ran back to her house and cooked them up for her cheating louse. After he ate his big dinner, and poor Lynn looked all the thinner, Stephen called up his lady love and toward the door gave Lynn a shove. After exchanging words or lust, Stephen left Lynn's @$$ in the dust, and off to the woman he chose, he left Lynn crying and blowing her nose. He spent a night with a real body. And, BOY, what a 'hottie', unlike tht bitch he loathed at home, THIS WOMAN HAD MEAT ON HER BONES!!! Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (5) #62 From: "Lynn Collea-Price" lhasaluvr@myactv.net Date: Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:25 am Subject: Re: Re: For dearest Joan shelterpetzg... Offline Send Email You imbecile I have NEVER claimed to be a 501 c (3). Keep trying though. Gotta give you an A for effort. ROFL! I won't be banned from anywhere lardass. I don't chain my dogs out, but they DO sometimes come outside with me when I am out. You are making a total @$$ out of yourself. But then again, you've been doing that for the past two years day in and day out. Now, you promised. Bring your fat dierrere to MD. Looks like you're wimping out tubs. Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (11) #63 From: "freetrollinfo" freetrollinfo@yahoo.com Date: Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:32 am Subject: Re: For dearest Joan freetrollinfo Offline Send Email Bitch, I don't wimp out, I just do things when I WANT. Just be careful what you are asking for, YOU JUST might get a knock on your door sometime real soon and it may not be who you expect.... I wouldn't waste my time busting you in the mouth--one splatter from you and I could catch anything--AIDS, Leprosy, even something the jungle doctors haven't seen yet!!! You lying bitch, I have several eye witnesses who are willing to go to court and testify that you leave those poor dogs out in the yard aroudn the clock without anything!! You will be shut down, that I promise... Sure hope you have your taxes in order too, you know what happens when you screw the IRS, don't you?? YOU ARE NEXT!!! ROFLMAO!!!!! Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (11) #64 From: "Lynn Collea-Price" lhasaluvr@myactv.net Date: Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:41 am Subject: Re: Re: For dearest Joan shelterpetzg... Offline Send Email You dumbass. Eye witnesses! ROFLMAOOOO! Court! That's another one I'm LMAO at! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Yes I'll be shut down. By whom?? ROFL! Whoever owns this group, please unsub me. Obviously this asswipe has loads of time on her hands. I don't. Much more important things to do than to argue with this Scioto Co hillbilly. Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (11) #65 From: Tiffany & KC highvoltageapbt@yahoo.com Date: Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:04 am Subject: Re: A poem for Lynn the BITCH highvoltageapbt Send IM Send Email omg ROFL Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (5) #66 From: Poodie IsAMutt poodieisamutt@yahoo.com Date: Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:40 pm Subject: Re: A poem for Lynn the BITCH poodieisamutt Offline Send Email Nice try, but it is disappointing lacking in rhythm. Not at all what I expected from an "internationally published poet." Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (5) #67 From: "llamahag" llamahag@yahoo.com Date: Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:16 pm Subject: Re: For dearest Joan llamahag Offline Send Email If she chains her dogs as you claim then have someone go there and take pictures as proof. Like they did at your place Joan remember? Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (11) #68 From: "llamahag" llamahag@yahoo.com Date: Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:21 pm Subject: Re: For dearest Joan llamahag Offline Send Email I think the owner should unsub Joan and her alias because we are not allowed to post to her groups and some we are not allowed to even join some of her groups...I vote they ban her lard butt from this group. Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (11) #69 From: "llamahag" llamahag@yahoo.com Date: Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:25 pm Subject: Re: A poem for Lynn the BITCH llamahag Offline Send Email Thats what I thought. It is pretty much drivel. Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (5) #70 From: Cynthia Hendrick sindee@tmail.com Date: Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:23 am Subject: Re: A poem for Lynn the BITCH sindee@tmail.com Send Email Tell me about it. It's a lame attempt at an inappropriate nursery rhyme at best. Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (5) #71 From: Cynthia Hendrick sindee@tmail.com Date: Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:29 am Subject: Re: Re: For dearest Joan sindee@tmail.com Send Email She has lots of witnesses, Lynn....in her own little alternate reality. Didn't you know that Joan has slipped back into her land of make believe? LOL! The doctors must have gotten her medication mixed up again. Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (11) #72 From: Cynthia Hendrick sindee@tmail.com Date: Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:33 am Subject: Re: Re: For dearest Joan sindee@tmail.com Send Email You have nothing on Lynn because there's nothing to have. Look Joan, I know it's difficult to live with your many illnesses, but please stop taking it out on everyone. And learn to keep your personalities under control. They're getting out of hand again. You wouldn't waste your time???? HA! You're a big scared booger! You know you wouldn't last 5 seconds trying to tangle with Lynn! Damn, Joan, you just take the comedy too far! LMAO! Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (11) #73 From: Cynthia Hendrick sindee@tmail.com Date: Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:02 am Subject: Re: Fwd: [TrollsRLiars] Here is my poem for Cynthia..... sindee@tmail.com Send Email ROFLMFAOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I find it so damn hilarious that Joan tries so hard to bother me by flashing her racism. She knows she can't get to me any other way. I don't care what people think of me. I don't care if I'm banned from groups. I don't care if I'm DNA'd, DNT'd, or whatever the hell.... So this racism shit is her lame attempt at getting me all worked up. LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!! It doesn't work, Joan. All it does is make your jealousy all the more obvious....and your anger, the anger of the typical racist person of this day and age who realizes that times are ever changing for the better and there's nothing that you racist dim-wits can do about it! HAHAHAHAHA! We are moving forward, Joanie Groanie, into a time when there will be no pure race. It's coming, you moronic bigot! But you just go on ahead and stay in your little dream world with the rest of those prejudice bubbleheads over there in KKK land; wallow in your misery with that fat, lazy, good-for-nothing you dare to call husband; and, in the meantime, I'll be here in the real world basking in the pleasure of knowing that you're such an irritated little worm cuz you know you can't get to me and enjoying my sexy @$$ fit -n- trim husband who has buldging muscles and flat abs cuz he doesn't soak up the couch all day every day like that jello loaf you're married to. Please do continue to display your jealousy and unhappiness, Joan, as it never ceases to both entertain and amuze. LMAO!!!!!!! POLL QUESTION: Do you think that Poodie is:
CHOICES AND RESULTS - a purebred poodle from a quality hobby breeder, 1 votes, 12.50% - a poorly bred purebred poodle from a BYB, 0 votes, 0.00% - a mutt, 3 votes, 37.50% - well-groomed and clean, 1 votes, 12.50% - in desperate need of a bath and proper haircut, 3 votes, 37.50% __,_._,___
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Animal "rescuer" harasses pet shop worker Posted by the "rescuer to groups: adoptanimals #68397 From: Joanie Stambaugh the_hardluck_hounds@yahoo.com the_hardluck_hounds Date: Thu Nov 2, 2006 11:46 pm Subject: OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some time...... Offline Send Email animalrescue #114945 From: Joanie Stambaugh the_hardluck_hounds@yahoo.com the_hardluck_hounds Date: Thu Nov 2, 2006 11:46 pm Subject: OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some time...... Offline Send Email I have been asked to send this out all over the internet. I posted this to a few groups and got a huge response!! Please share as you see fit. This is about a visit to PetLand in South Point, OH on Nov. 1, 2006.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I was on my way to WV to do some computer work for my dad and decided to stop and kill some time and stretch my legs. Well, instead of going to the WalMart close by, I figured I'd go take a look inside the PetLand I spotted close by..... Well, I walked in to a very small but tidy store, crammed with all sorts of pet supplies and cages and tanks to sell the new pet owners. I made my way back to the animals along the back wall of the store. Oh, the puppies they had there were just too numerous to even try to name all the breeds--I do recall Peke, Pug, Dachsie, English Springer Spaniel, Cocker Spaniel, Greyhound, JRT, Poodles, Mini Schnauzer and Chihuahuas. There were many more too, even a French Bulldog!! As I made my way down the length of the puppy display, simply disgusted by the diahrreah the pups had, some were even lethargic, others were acting like they had been given a stimulant as they bounced all over their cage, I hear a young man "May I help you with the Puppies?" I turned to look at this fresh-faced kid, and shook my head, "No, not with THESE puppies." He came closer and said "We have the finest selection of pups around this area and they are all from excellent breeders from the Mid-West." I paused a second, "Oh, is that so??" "We have our pups vet checked and do not accept them unless they are in perfect health", this young man boasted. I said "Really? So what is this stuff I keep seeing linking PetLand and Puppy Mills all over the internet?" He pauses a second to think, "Must be a rumor, we get our dogs from private breeders who take pride in their litters." At this point I was ready to just smack this kid for being stupid and gullible. I nearly died laughing at this crap too but it was too sad to be laughed off. "So, are your pups AKC registered or what?", I asked with honest sincerity. "Oh, our boss does not think AKC is the highest standard of the breeds so he prefers to take only CKC, ACA and a couple other registeries. As you can see, we have excellent pups here", this young man goes on with his sales pitch. At this point, I had heard enough trash talk and that was when I let him have the WHOLE story on these pups and their origins. "Do you honestly expect me to believe that AKC is the 'lowgrade' registery? Let me introduce myself before I continue. My name is Joanie Stambaugh, from McDermott, OH, and I am a dog rescuer specializing in small seniors, PUPPY MILL Dogs and special needs dogs. My rescue is Joanie's Lil Senior K9 Sanctuary and Placement and I currently have 4 Mill dogs in my house that came from some of those illustrious Mid-Western Breeders you speak so highly of. Let me tell you, if you have NOT seen a mill dog, I can tell you all about them. I have had them come in to me with NO social skills at all, matted so badly you couldn't tell one end from the other, so sick they could barely stand, no teeth or lower jaws from the lack of proper care and the females being bred so much that their little bodies re-absorb their jaw-bone in order to have calcium for milk. Oh, I can tell you about a friend of mine in NE who gets them and some have their faces broken up from being kicked and brutally beaten by those wonderful breeders you speak so highly of. I can go right on with a list of things that would make you want to vomit but I know EXACTLY where these pups were born--Puppy Mills in the Mid-West!!! If you decide you want to learn more about those hell-holes, I will be more than happy to introduce you to my poor Mill Survivors and show you website after website with pics of these places and the ACTUAL conditions these pups came out of." This kid is soooo convinced of the good work these Millers do that he tells me that their pups are the best in the country. They are genetically sound and have NO health problems. He even says they were made to watch a video on the horrors of a real puppy mill but it wasn't so bad..... I could have went through the roof!! I stood there a second and then looked him in the eye...."Have you seen these places yourself? Have you seen the actual dogs that come out of those mills? What they send you here are the cleaned up versions of the mill dogs. I recommend a site for you, NoPuppyMills.com or better yet, go to the HSUS or PETA sites and type in Puppy Mills for a list of sites and info on these "doggy concentration camps" and have a look for yourself. Also, all of the puppy purchasers who have paid anywhere from $600 to $1500 for a pup from PetLand and then spent thousands more to save the dog's life, tell them how sound and healthy their pups were too. I have seen the reports, read their statements and in NO way do I condone selling of Puppy Mill Pups to the unsuspecting public." At this point, the kid is so blown away by the info he is hearing that he asks me if I am for real. My response--You better believe it!! At that point, I decided I had said more than enough. This kid had a look on his face that said plenty. I paused before heading out the door, "If you think I am joking, please do check out the info on those sites I mentioned or Google Puppy Mills and see what you find..... Oh, and see, I was right, you can't help me with THOSE pups....." This happened Nov. 1, 2006 in South Point, OH at PetLand. Yours in rescue, Joanie Stambaugh McDermott, OH -- Animal "rescuer" acquires a dog and makes up sad abuse lie about previous owner to make herself look good, and gets ill-gotten glory and pats on the back for it. Today at the Flea Market, there was this skanky young couple walking around leading this little guy. He is an unaltered older Pug boy. Anyway, they were trying to sell him for $50. I felt sorry for the dog and stopped them and offered him a treat, which I carry in my pocket for those customers who bring their pets out shopping too. Anyway, you could hear his guts growling before you got to him and he was starved. This boy didn't want to leave because he was so hungry and wanted more to eat. Well, the more I messed with him, the more convinced I was that he was blind or at least partially. Well, he is pretty much blind, he sees shadows. The lady transporter, Teresa, does some evaluations for Scioto, Pike and Adams Pounds and she checked his vision, did the same things I had, and she looked at his eyes. Yep--he is blind!! He is as sweet as he can be and loves everyone he meets. There is a chance that he may have a home in the near future, after he is neutered and given his shots, with Teresa's friend who recently lost her Pug. If he can get a loving home, then I have done my job. Re: My new friend, Elmo good for you for taking him from them. 512 Re: [Slammers_R_Us] Re: My new friend, Elmo He is super-sweet and just a great little dog. They bring in dogs often and I think I am going to let the OH SPCA in on this one and see if they can find out...
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Friday, June 05, 2009
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The "I RESCUED A HUMAN TODAY" Chain Letter There's so much wrong with this that I don't even know where to begin. It's a chain letter story which has been circulating since at least as far back as Nov. 17, 2008, when it first slobbered all over my screen. So this dog has been sitting in the kennel and "rescuing" the same woman every day, since then, for as many times as this story has been forwarded. It's supposedly from the point of view of a homeless dog, who believes he has "rescued" a human simply by existing ever so sadly until she comes along to take him home. Talk about anthropomorphism to the hilt. Not nearly enough detail was written to explain whether this dog is supposed to come from a pound or a breeder, (a favorite target for abuse by animal rescuers) but it seems to be a bid to put animal "rescue" back into a really phony altruistic light. So...this dog "knew" this human needed help, and didn't want to show her he had a bad sad past, but was only concerned for her future - uh, this is a dog we're talking about, right? Oh well, I guess my pets have "rescued" me too, many times. They could've left everything out but the bare details of the human looking into the kennels and needing to get a pet, and the human/animal contact and affection, the tears in the woman's eyes at the joy of getting a pet, without all that other doggy-feely nonsense. On a more serious note, the story appears to be touting "Adopt an animal from the SPCA! or "Rescue a dog from a bad kennel and boost his self-esteem!" Let's get this straight, animals are not little fur people. They may show preference for one person over another, but please, a dog isn't going to wish to spare the feelings of the pound workers or try to hide his supposedly sad sad past from his new owner so she won't cry any more. A dog is not going to be concerned with his own future let alone that of any other being on this earth. A dog is an animal. Warning, sickly soppy chain letter animal story below, read at your own risk. You may laugh at how pathetic it is, or you may get sucked in and cry over what you perceive as the dog's altruism, depending on which side of the common sense fence you're on. -- ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:53 PM Subject: I RESCUED A HUMAN TODAY I RESCUED A HUMAN TODAY Her eyes met mine as she walked down the corridor peering apprehensively into the kennels. I felt her need instantly and knew I had to help her. I wagged my tail, not too exuberantly, so she wouldn't be afraid. As she stopped at my kennel I blocked her view from a little accident I had in the back of my cage. I didn't want her to know that I hadn't been walked today. Sometimes the shelter keepers get too busy and I didn't want her to think poorly of them. As she read my kennel card I hoped that she wouldn't feel sad about my past. I only have the future to look forward to and want to make a difference in someones life. She got down on her knees and made little kissy sounds at me. I shoved my shoulder and side of my head up against the bars to comfort her. Gentle fingertips caressed my neck; she was desperate for companionship. A tear fell down her cheek and I raised my paw to assure her that all would be well. Soon my kennel door opened and her smile was so bright that I instantly jumped into her arms. I would promise to keep her safe. I would promise to always be by her side. I would promise to do everything I could to see that radiant smile and sparkle in her eyes. I was so fortunate that she came down my corridor. So many more are out there who haven't walked the corridors. So many more to be saved. At least I could save one. I rescued a human today.
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