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"Durante mucho tiempo nos obligaron a ser sumis@s, a reprimir nuestra naturaleza de seres libres y aceptar todas aquellas reglas y normas que solo fueron creadas para matenernos controlad@s: porque primero por desobedecer y ser rebeldes nos castigaban con los golpes, las humillaciones y la represion psicologica que nos infringia la ignorancia o la "sabiduria" de nuestros padres. Despues nos quisieron someter coartando nuestra libertad con su moral religiosa, controlando nuestros cuerpos y nuestra voluntad con el servicio militar, la educacion al servicio del poder e impartida por el estado, las modas, los prejuicios, el trabajo asalariado, etc... Y nosotr@s encontramos en el punk aquello que rompia con todas estas costumbres opresivas... PERO OH SORPERSA!, Ya tenian a la policia, las leyes, las carceles, el ejercito,los mass media, cuya simple existencia es la mas infame de las provocaciones; y toda esta cruda realidad es la que nos indujo a ser no una banda musical, si no una banda contestaria que nunca se adapto al conformismo imperante ni al espectaculo mercantil de la industria musical y que propone la accion directa, (no solo como metodo de actuacion y funcionamiento organizativo, sino tambien como forma de ataque, confrontacion y resistencia contra la realidad que nos oprime.) la autogestion, la solidaridad, la libre auto-determinacion de l@s individu@s y de los pueblos: y asi como nos negamos a aceptar esta convencion esclava de la vida, nos negamos a aceptar al punk como una rebeldia pasajera que se olvida con los anos, como solo "musica" o estetica; El punk debe ir mas alla, resistir, combatir, luchar, crear-destruir, aprender a no olvidar, mantenerse coherente y autonomo para no ser asimilado como ya lo han hecho con otros movimientos contraculturales que nacen de las calles y que terminan vencidos y vendidos en los escaparates de moda, no debemos de olvidar que el punk es solo una parte minuscula que necesita aprender y enriquecerce de todas aquellas luchas sociales del campo y de la ciudad, de aqui y de todo el mundo..."

Desobediencia Civil, a Mexican/harcore Punk Band
Cristianne Dugan,
Feb 08, 2002


The progressive punk scene in Mexico has developed rapidly to become a vibrant part of youth culture south of the border. Pioneer bands like Clamor Inexorable, Regeneracion, Sabotaje Final, Disolucion Social, Moda Ridicula, Fallas del Sistema, Causa Justa, Dolor y Odio, Stress, and Coprofilia, have mangaged to survive and thrive following the D.I.Y. (Do It Yourself) code. Mutually supporting musicians borrow instruments to organize shows and go on tours with the purpose of diffusing anarchist libertarian ideology while playing hard-hitting music.

Desobediencia Civil (D.C.) is one of the leading anarcho-punk bands out of Mexico City. They have been around for eight years and have put out two albums, a big accomplishment for a band from Mexico. Recently, I had a chance to catch up with three of the members presently living in the U.S. This interview was conducted originally in Spanish with: El Fantasma, El Vampiro Fronterizo and El Tosky.
YO! Why the name Desobediencia Civil?


Fantasma Desobediencia Civil is antagonism to authority, the opposite face of oppression. To disobey, refuse what denies freedom.
Vampiro Originally the name was taken from the title of a book, written by Henry David Thoreau. The concept of Civil Disobedience was to refuse paying taxes, to not support state sponsored wars.


YO! Who are the members of the band?


Vampiro The new configuration is El Fantasma, 23, drums; El Chomsky, 26, vocals; El Vampiro Fronterizo 22, guitar; El Tosky, 24, vocals; El Guero Sin Fe, 23, bass guitar.


YO! So where's El Chomsky & El Guero Sin Fe?


Fantasma We should explain this: we broke up because the economic situation in Mexico got really bad, so Chomsky was the first one forced to come to the U.S. Then a few months later me and Vampiro followed up north together, where we met up with Tosky. Here we hooked up with Guero Sin Fe. See, because of the situation right now with immigration and the whole security increase (after September 11), it's hard for Chomsky to travel here because he doesn't have papers and it's even a risk to go on bus or train. Guero Sin Fe, well, he's from here (U.S.), but he couldn't be here now.


YO! So with the increase of security after September 11, how do you think this will influence your music? What's your take on what's going on?


Vampiro In terms of the band, music, or our lyrics, well, war is not a new subject matter to us. We've always opposed wars, but also we've always been against imperialism, authoritarianism. The U.S. government is no exception. I mean, what's happening right now is the by-product of the seeds of terror they've planted. Who's the real terrorist?


Tosky Yeah, though we don't support the Taliban, because the Taliban is oppressing women's rights, we don't support the U.S. government or their response to go bombing other countries.


YO! What's your impression of the punk scene in the U.S.?


Vampiro There is a big difference between a third and a first world country. The conditions, benefits and chances here in the first world, whether you are punk, rapper, alternative, or whatever, is that there are more resources in comparison to Mexico. For me, the punk culture that we know in Mexico is definitely a culture of resistance. Independent from the musical achievement of a band, it's about rejecting the establishment. For example, in Mexico when you dress punk, it's hard to go about your everyday life (at school or at work), and here I've seen kids in the schools engaged in punk as fashion. In Latin America, to be punk (in appearance and ideology), means to routinely be at war against the norm, making your everyday life a struggle, while here it seems to be tolerated by institutions (family, school, work). I understand punk as a global culture, but being here I've seen the differences. I admit that I've met people here who contribute to the essence of punk culture.


YO! Musically what are some of your influences, if any?


Vampiro Musically, I better explain that we're not trained, cause we don't have a school of music. We don't know how to read sheets or tune instruments. Basically my influence is the attitude displayed by pioneer bands of crust, like Amebix, Doom, Extreme Noise Terror, which mocked "music" with their noise.


Tosky We have diverse influences, more than grind, crust, or punk-metal. We draw from musicians like Silvio Rodriguez, who has no relationship to punk. It's more about the ideology.

Esto no es un juego amigo mi@!! Esta es una lucha sin final! vivimos atad@s y condenad@s

Bajo un puto regimen de avaricia y corrupcion somos hij@s de obrer@s humillad@s y explotad@s mientras que l@s ric@s y l@s poderos@s gozan del poder y la ambicion.. Cuanto tiempo mas hay que soportar!!!? Cuanto tiempo mas hay que lamentar!!!? cuanto tiempo mas tendremos que gritar!!? Cuanto tiempo mas tendremos que luchar!

No estamos dispuestos a seguir soportando mas humillaciones mas explotaciones lucharemos en una Batalla SIN FINAL!!!

Ahora nos toca continuar la lucha que hemos heredado de tiempos atras  donde nuestr@s abuel@s luchaban y morian por conseguir la sagrada libertad!!

LUCHAR!! LUCHAR!! LUCHAR!!
HASTA EL FINAL!!

LUCHAR!! LUCHAR!! LUCHAR!!
POR TU LIBERTAD!!

No estamos de acuerdo con lo que nos imponen y acabaremos a l@s que nos oprimen muchos problemas tendremos que enfrentar pero mas seran las razones de luchar nada nos importa que tengamos que pelear ya que nuestra lucha jamas terminara
LUCHAR!! LUCHAR!! LUCHAR!!
HASTA EL FINAL!!

LUCHAR!! LUCHAR!! LUCHAR!!
POR TU LIBERTAD!!

No permitiremos que controlen nuestras vidas y lucharemos contra toda autoridad nosolo los tiempos malos seran, tambien Habra momentos de gran felicidad. acciones subersivas debemos de empezar paran asi poder alcanzar la libertad

LUCHAR!! LUCHAR!! LUCHA!R!
HASTA EL FINAL!!
LUCHAR!! LUCHAR!! LUCHAR!!
POR TU LIBERTAD!!

No nos daremos por vencid@s y lucharemos hasta el final, quizas no lo logremos pero al menos tranquil@s moriremos sabiendo que nunca lo dejamos de intentar

LUCHAR!! LUCHAR!! LUCHAR!!
HASTA EL FINAL!!
LUCHAR!! LUCHAR!! LUCHA!R!
POR TU LIBERTAD!!