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Thursday, July 20, 2006 

Ive been having a lot of qualms lately about the rising phenomenon of local support bands being asked to sell tickets to shows.  It seems the practice has really creeped up in prevalence in the past couple years and is possibly starting to do more damage than good to the live music scene.   I think just a couple years ago, I started seeing it, mainly at a couple all ages clubs on the east coast.  Basically it worked like this:  a tour would roll into town and the local opening act(s) would be asked to publicize the show and sell tickets.  In exchange theyd usually get around $2 a ticket for every ticket they sold.  From the perspective of a touring band, this seemed to work out really well.  The show got extra publicity, tickets got sold in advance and the local bands had potential to make some extra money too.  These are three major problems that the practice really helped address.First up, having the local bands help publicize a show for a touring band is really essential to the success of the show.  Ive seen it way too often where the promoter either really doesnt know how to reach the right kids or is too lazy or overwhelmed by other shows to do the right publicity.  Lets face it, Ska has its own culture and its a relatively obscure one.  A lot of cities, if not the majority of them, might only have one promoter that is willing to take a chance on booking a Ska show.  Odds are that person doesnt really have intimate knowledge of the scene, so it really does take the local bands to get the word out.   Many bands, on the other hand, just assume there job is just to show up, play the show, and go home.  Ive been to shows where the local bands didnt even get their friends to show up.  Secondly, getting tickets sold in advance, is basically a huge insurance policy that the show will do decent and end up selling more tickets overall.  If kids buy tickets in advance, it means they arent going to lame out at the last minute and sit at home and watch TV.  It also means that once theyve shelled out their $10, theyll be encouraging their friends to do so too.  Thirdly, it gives the local band another way to make some money.  Obviously its really expensive to start out a band.  T-shirts must be printed, demos recorded, broken drumsticks replaced, websites hosted, etc, etc..  A lot of shows, just dont have the budget to pay local band much if anything and this allows them another avenue for making money.   On top of all this, in many cases it helps the fans buy cheaper tickets and avoid shelling extra money for Ticketmaster and website service charges.   So everybody wins right?

            The first thing I started noticing, and this is probably way too obvious, but the quality of the opening bands can be really hurt.  It doesnt really matter in a lot of places, where there are only a handful of ska bands and they end up with show anyway, but I noticed in places, with massive suburban populations, especially places like northern New Jersey and Long Island, that have about eighty gazillion local ska bands, the opening slots arent necessarily going to the best bands.   More often than not theyll go to the bands that have sold the most tickets in the past.  This usually means high school bands that havent had much experience writing and performing, but quite frankly have a shitload of friends and shitload of free time to sell those friends tickets.  Bands composed mainly of people who are out of school and working to pay rent and be in a band are at a huge disadvantage.   To be more frank, it gets to the point where it makes it so easy to be so cynical as to blow off even watching the opening bands when its obvious the promoter put on another slew of RBF/LTJ clones that cant tune their instruments, but can sell a shitload of tickets.  If you ever wonder why the headliner is sitting in their dressing room drinking beer instead of watching the opening band.well there ya go.  (for all its worth, Im really trying to make an effort to check out a couple songs of every band we play with though).

            Now, dont get me wrong though, a lot of the time it kind of works out the opposite way.  A lot of time the bands that sell the tickets are the ones who are organized and committed to being successful.  They are the ones that are serious, willing to work harder to promote their band and the show and deserve the slot.  I get extremely frustrated with bands that, I have given a really good slot on a show or a tour and then tell me something like, wow, thanks so much for giving us this awesome show, were breaking up next month and really wanted to go out with a cool show.  I usually just smile, nod, and think to myself I wish I had given the slot to another band it would have helped out and would be sticking around to support the scene.

           

Okay, so here we are, a couple years, down the line, and the practice has evolved and infiltrated the Midwest and probably just about everywhere in between the coasts where it started.   I guess Im starting to think its getting out of hand.  Lately I was talking to a dude in local band and he told me the promoter told him if he didnt sell 100 tickets, his band could forget about playing that venue again.  Creepy.  This is getting dangerously close to the 1980s metal band practice of pay to play, where promoters, would basically force bands to buy, say 100 tickets for $10 each.  If the band didnt sell all of them, theyd have to pay for the ones they didnt sell. Super-creepy. 

            I have to admit, for me, this all really came to a head within the last two weeks.  My band, Mustard Plug is in the process of setting up an east coast tour along with Against All Authority and Westbound train.  Bomb the Music Industry is also on most of the dates.  I was also trying to get another established and signed NYC band on a few of the local shows around the NYC area.  Despite my best efforts, and despite the fact that this band is excellent and well liked within the scene I wasnt able to add them to any of the shows, all because the promoters insisted they needed other locals who could sell tickets. I suspect the problem is, this band is well out of high school and needs to spend the majority of their time paying rent in the NYC area and focusing on songwriting musicianship rather than selling tickets.   Now when push comes to shove, the show has to be successful.  If promoters loose money on ska shows, there wont be any more ska shows.  That is the bottom line.  Unfortunately the scene isnt quite together enough yet to guarantee that every show is going to do great. 

            So whats the answer?  The solution?  Is the practice all good or all bad?  I guess I cant say yet.    From my very narrow perspective, it becomes clear that headlining bands and booking agents need to ensure that they retain the right to choose local support.  Its also up to the every one to support the shows and the bands both local and touring, so the promoters dont have to rely on locals selling tickets to make a show successful.  Do I recommend buying tickets from a local band instead of Ticketmaster? Definitely.  Especially if you know the band and like them.   Quite honestly I dont see this all going away anytime soon.  Hopefully, it wont spin further out of control.

            Skank on daddio.

 

Friday, July 07, 2006 

Wow, so I realize its been forever since Ive written a blog.  For that I apologize, although Im not going to assume that anyone gives a shit either. (ha-ha).  Anyways the past few months, Ive been bogged down with a couple major projects outside of SID that have been filling up my life. The main one being moving to a new house, the other is finishing up the songwriting for another Mustard Plug album. (We hope to get into the studio this fallthanks for asking).  Also I had really hoped to put together another Ska Is Dead tour for this fall, but a couple bands had schedule changes/conflicts so its going to have to be pushed back.  Basically I keep running into the same problem, where there just arent enough bigger ska bands that can headline a decent sized room.  Im trying to put together a fresh line up every time the tour goes out and its really tough to do.  One of the bands I had been talking to, The Suicide Machines, were really excited about doing the tour.  I was personally really excited about getting them involved with the tour but then, they broke up.  Doh!  I guess thats just one example, but quite frankly its a tough tour to put together.  Im not sure if the average ska fan realizes it, but the bulk of the people in bands that really created the 3rd wave are now in their mid to late 30s which makes it really tough to maintain an adult lifestyle and be in a touring band, especially if youre not making a lot of money, which 99% of the bands are not.  So..a lot of the bands such as Pietasters, Buck-O-Nine, and even my band Mustard Plug arent really able to go out and do a six week tour due to family/job/financial requirements.  On the other hand, its really difficult to organize the publicity and advertising for tour unless it is a full nationwide, six week tour.  So.I guess I kind of feel, the one thing the Ska scene needs is a new generation of solid bands to pick up the slack.  Since the tour started there has been a couple(Big D and Streetlight Manifesto come to mind), who have risen to that level, and a few more that are getting close, but its really going to take a new crop of headlining bands to keep the momentum of the scene moving along.  Hats off to all the up and coming bands that are getting out there, writing good songs and touring the nation. 

            On another topic, its shaping up to be a good summer for other tours.  The Summer of Ska tour is gearing up, which should be fun.  (Although, Im sad to say, Im going to be out of town when it comes my way).  The Know How are busy, tearing up the road as well.  Im hoping to catch them, when they come to the area.  Also in the past couple weeks I got to check out a couple other fun tours.  The first one was the Independents.  They played a small local all ages joint and were amazing.  If youre not familiar with them, they basically sounds like a cross between the Misfits, and the Ramones, but they look like a death metal band and throw in lots of ska into their songs.  Theyve actually been around since at least the mid 90s and Ive never been able to understand why theyre not a lot more well known than they are.  My band used to play lots of shows with them in the 90s and they were as good as ever.  I was a little disappointed that more people didnt come out to see them, even more disappointed at the kids hanging out in the parking lot during their set.  (come oncheck out a couple songs at leasteven if its not the band you came to see!)  Anyway, I got to hang out with them.(lead singers name is Evil Presly, how cool is that?)  and catch up on stuff.  Very cool laid back time.   The other show I saw recently was Reel Big Fish/Streetlight Manifesto/Whole Wheat Bread/Shoelace.  Another good show but completely different.  It was at a huge venue with great lights/sound/stage, but with over-zealous security and expensive ticket fees etc.  but tons of kids in attendance.  Of course all the bands were awesome.  It was my first time seeing Whole Wheat Bread.  They were cool.  Streetlight and RBF both sounded great as usual.  I got to say hi to Aaron and RBF again.Cool to see him decked out in super-ska gear.  I hung out with Thomas from Streetlight again and find out what hes up to.  (new album in the works, you heard it here firstwell actually Im probably the 38th person to tell you that).anywayeverything was cool, until I after the show when I got physically ejected from the building.  (for what you say?) Drinking a beer.  Mind you, Im 37 years old and bought the beer from the same establishment that I was drinking it in.  So..if anyone is wondering why I wasnt hanging out longer after the show..now you know.

            This sort of all leads me to my next topic.which is my qualms with bigger venues, including many of the ones we play, especially my questions about the benefits of the lastest virus-like trend in the all ages show biz:  requiring opening bands to sell ticketsbut thats for a future blog..  over and out.Dave Plug

           

Tuesday, September 20, 2005 
 
9.12.05
    It's 3:07pm and I'm sitting in the van, typing into my laptop while we cruise across the midwest from St. Louis to Grand Rapids.  The Ska Is Dead Tour is going really well, all the shows have been really well attended and the bands are all great.  It's been a pretty rigorous tour for me physically so far though.  I've trashed my voice pretty well.  Chicago was an awesome show and the band went out to the bar afterwards and shouting to be heard, in a loud bar is never a good thing to do after four consecutive headlining shows.  Playing two shows in one day in St. Louis didn't help either.  Oh well.  I just need some hot tea and lots of sleep and all should be great.  The Canadian dates start in a couple days and we have shorter sets, which will be really nice. 
    
    Man, I gotta say.  Touring in a band these days is so much easier than it was when we started a band.   I get so much more done having a laptop on the road, it is mind boggling.  I'm sorry but I look at all the new bands and think "You are all a bunch of sissy men".  Cell phones, Ipods, laptops.  Shiiiiite.....I booked our first tours myself and y'all don't even know the meaning of "pain in the ass".  Trying booking a cross country tour for a ska band in 1994 without the use of email, computers, websites, and cell phones.  Honestly back then some of that may have technically existed but no one in the industry used them.  I still have some of my early tour diaries and they're hand written,  I still have all the cassette tapes we used to listen to on the road.  I used to book tours by calling clubs and sending press kits.  It was almost impossible to get a hold of anyone due to lack of cell phones.  The band was constantly having to stop at pay phones so I could retrieve messages on my home answering machine.  Anways I don't want to sound bitter.  I'm actually so incredibly happy to have a cell phone and laptop on the road.  The only bad thing, is with more accessible technology, it makes the act of being in a band and touring so easy that there really is a huge glut of pretty crappy bands out there doing it.   That, and the fact that bands were tighter then because they had to help each other out more.   
 
Anyways....come to a show....great music and fun is being had by all
over and out
Dave
    
Friday, July 29, 2005 

Ok, ok, so here it is, by first Blog for Ska Is Dead.  I'm pretty much a dork when it comes to cyber crap...so bear with me.  First up though I gotta send out a shout out to my boy Dave Romano for setting up the Ska Is Dead MySpace deal and getting so many of you on board.  The tour is almost entirely booked now which is a very good thing.  I apologize to everyone who is writing in saying, "why isn't the tour coming to my town",  all I gotta say I wish it could be everywhere but we can only hit so many places in a contained period of time.  The specific reason really vary.....for example in Boston, we just couldn't find a venue.....for San Antonio....due to scheduling we had to pick Austin or SA....and hey it's a short road trip....for Seattle...well, I'll be honest you just live too damn far away from the rest of the nation, besides Portland there are no other major cities within a 10 hours drive.  Gas is SUPER expensive and only about 150 kids showed up in each town when SID 1 went through....ouch!.... San Diego...none of the clubs that were contacted were that interested....In the end the tour is trying to hit as many major cities as possible....If it's not coming to your town....grab a carload of friends and roadtrip!  Otherwise keep your fingers crossed for Ska Is Dead 4.  Anyways.....hopefully more people are happy than not.....and thanks for being a friend.

-dave kirchgessner, Ska is Dead Honcho

Friday, July 22, 2005 
As you've probably noticed, there's a few gaps in the dates/routing for Ska Is Dead 3.  We've got a few things up our sleeves on those dates, and not to worry, we'll post the show info for them soon!