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With the imminent release of our second EP Sound As A Pound we thought we should treat you all to some tracks from it...

Love to hear your feedback on the new tracks.

Sound As A Pound will be available through iTunes, at shows and on our page very soon - watch this space.

Rum n Roses to all...

The Rumjacks







November 6, 2009 - Friday 
Shite’n’Onions Interview: The Rumjacks, ‘Sound As A Pound’

With The Rumjacks’ second EP ‘Sound As A Pound’ available this month, we’re talking here with Will Swan from the band.

S’n’O: Like your debut EP ‘Hung, Drawn and Portered’, this one has a well-known traditional song on it. With ‘Marie’s Wedding’, you’ve chosen to record a real standard, a very popular song that has been covered by several bands. Did you hope to bring any particular Rumjacks quality to it?

Will: ‘Marie’s’ was an offhand suggestion made by Johnny, just a good energetic song to throw into the set, we never thought we’d bother recording it. But, you know, Frankie was more than happy to lay on the ’20 Golden Scottish Favourites’ treatment, but with the volume right up. And we gathered whoever was around that day and got some gang vocals happening. Isolated within the mix, some of them are truly dreadful - wonderfully bad singing - but all in there together they make for a good ol’ hooley!

S’n’O: Tell us about Katoomba, of the song’s title.

Will: Katoomba is a big mountain town about two hours train ride from the centre of Sydney city. Although I lived in various places around the state – city and country – I had cousins there so I’ve always been familiar with it. Katoomba is a distinctive place in that it is a sort of nexus for drunken hillbillies AND New Age types AND artists, etc, etc. It is very cold in winter and often shrouded in mist and fog. There’s a lot of 1920s architecture up there and the whole place is set amongst lookouts and cliffs.

S’n’O: What’s the story within the song ‘Katoomba’?

Will: I was walking around the steep streets on the fringes of Katoomba and I came across these 1950s houses that were perfectly preserved. I think I actually said to my companion “it could be 1963, it might as well be”. From there I found a character, a melancholy barfly, and by the time I’d got to the train station I’d written the song in my head. I made it a distant love-gone-wrong story, as viewed through the bottom of a beer glass. You find all these postcards in the antique shops up there, really personal stuff, and you wonder what happened to the people who wrote and received them. So I fused a few ideas together and set it where I found those ideas.

S’n’O: ‘Katoomba’ and especially ‘My Time Again’ are more ‘serious’ songs than most Rumjacks songs so far …

Will: ‘My Time Again’ is one of Frankie’s, we put it together very quickly. Like ‘The Bold Rumjacker’ before it, ‘My Time Again’ is an acapella but it is the opposite of the swaggering and fanciful ‘Rumjacker’. ‘Time Again’ is somehow both dreary and epic and I think it achieves a very stark sentiment. It blurs the lines between three generations of characters who are locked in the cycle of working the pits and drinking on Friday nights, etc., and the narrator and his father both carry the terrible burden of wondering if they could have been more than what they are.

S’n’O: ‘My Time Again’ has a different sound to the other songs. Was this deliberate?

Will: We were going to make it pretty reggae but that wasn’t really in keeping with the sentiment of the song, so I threw in a vaguely European minor-key accordion loop and Johnny put a lot of mood in with the guitars and bass (Gabriel joined the band after we’d recorded it). We like to consider it an ‘original folk song’ because we didn’t derive it from any one particular folk idiom.

S’n’O: ‘Kirkintilloch’ also seems to be about working in the pits and drinking!

Will: Exactly! And also the hereditary tradition therein. ‘Time Again’ is another take on the same world. ‘Kirk’ is a Scottish song, Frankie attributes its survival to one Geordie Hamilton.

S’n’O: So, you’ve got an overt Scottish influence happening on ‘Sound As A Pound’, and yet you are an Australian band. Other than ‘Katoomba’, is there anything particularly Australian in any of the songs on the EP?

Will: ‘Shadrach Hannigan’ is about riding the rails around Australia. The protagonist is one of those arseholes who bangs on about settling down with a wife and clothesline but nobody is buying it, least of all himself. By the end of the first verse, he’s already ‘jumped the rattler’ and taken off to the sunny north with a bottle of rum in his hand. The ‘Boxcar Willie’ side of things is romatic and sepia-toned but Shadrach is a timeless figure. I wrote ‘Shadrach’ before Brisbane became our regular port of call but I’m pleased to say it does pay tribute to the area of Brisbane where we usually play.

Cheers indeed.

SOUND AS A POUND will soon be available on Shite'n'Onions iTunes, also from the band directly.
Happy Rumjacking!

November ‘09
October 28, 2009 - Wednesday 
Ladies of Easy Leisure & Gentlemen of Fortune all!

All Hallow's Eve was our first officially-billed Rumjacks show, so we're calling it our anniversary.

We'd like to thank all the mates, bands, promoters and characters who have helped us blast some wind into the sails since then.

Our first 'road test' shows were all in the Piano Bar of the Carrington Hotel, Katoomba, far up in the mists of the upper Blue Mountains outside of Sydney.  The original line-up included our dear mates Curly O'Hooligan from Canberra (who would travel miles to help carve out the rough mold of what became The Rumjacks) and the Larrikin Gentleman known Steve Pell, the first man to ever call us a "band", on a drizzling evening in a cold beer garden after our first rehearsal.  When I think of those first days, I remember lots of rain and mist, lots of beer (for some), quite a bit of musketeering and bravado and also some solid spontaneous songwriting. 

Since then, Curly has departed but can be found wherever there are horses and tinkers down in the tundra region of the Australian Capital Territory.  Steve moved down to Melbourne and has been playing in rockabilly bands non-stop ever since. 

We've also had our second drummer Matt do a stint about the Goodship Rumjack, and we would very much like to fire a special salute to the ice-cool Black Adam who is now to be found rambling wild and free in Canada, a better bloke you will not ever find.  A nod also to Russell 'Haybale' Martin for his time aboard the ship.

Anthony Matters and Gabriel Whitbourne have both come aboard with swagger and gusto and we have tightened the nuts and bolts.  With loads of shows and tours slated, we look forward to continuing to play wherever people want to get themselves a blast of Rumjackery.

Special thanks here to Driza & The Handsome Young Strangers, Take It Or Leave It, Barfly Promotions, Pauly, The Snowdroppers, Baz & Evan, Pat from Pug Music and, of course, Punkfest's Cath, Chris & Liam. 

On behalf of Johnny, Frankie, Gabe & Anthony,

Will Swan
The Rumjacks
New South Wales, October, '09
October 10, 2009 - Saturday 

Would you like to introduce the Rumjacks shortly to our readers?

 

I have read that you all have already played in a lot of other bands before. Where you playing the same kind of music like you do now or was it something totaly different?

 

 * Johnny was playing in a rockabilly band when he and I met and decided to start what would become The Rumjacks.  When I was in Melbourne , I was briefly a member of Mutiny, and I started a folk punk band of my own down there.  Anthony used to be in the punk band Bastard Squad from Melbourne (and jumped up with them when Rumjacks played with them recently).

 

When was the band found and how have you met the other band members?

 

* Johnny and I met in Sydney .  As it turned out, we were both living in the same area about an hour out of the city.  We found Frankie at the local pub, he was a local who had been toying with the idea of starting a folk rock band so we roped him in.  One thing you have to understand about Johnny is that he knows pretty much everyone in the Sydney band scene, and he knew Anthony, who saw us at one of our early 'road-test' shows in the major Blue Mountains township of Katoomba .  When we needed a drummer, he stepped right in.  We found our guitarist Gabriel at a tattoo pageant we played in the city.

 

How did you find the band's name? I guess there is an interesting story?

 

* Well, there's no real folkore behind the name.  I just came up with it one night in a pub, and it seemed to really work.

 

Of which bands are you influenced?

 

* The Pogues, The Clash, The Corries, The Dubliners, Steeleye Span, Flogging Molly, Darkbuster, Weddings, Parties, Anything, Roaring Jack, Mutiny, Dropkick Murphys, Rancid, Tom Waits, Bombshell Rocks, Billy Bragg, The Real McKenzies, Kate Rusby, The Tossers, The Clancy Brothers, The Popes, Mr Irish Bastard, Against Me!, Blood Or Whiskey

 

You mentioned some, more or less new, European bands, how well do you know the music scene over here?

 

* I'm not sure how well I know it, but I found loads of European folk rock and folk punk bands through sites like Paddyrock Radio and Shite'n'Onions.  I even bought a Mr Irish Bastard t-shirt off them the same week I first came across them!  

 

You have released two EPs. How can we get them in Europe ?

 

 * AT THIS STAGE, you can get them through Pug Music online (www.pugmusic.com)


That’s great. Sometimes it is really difficult to get Australian stuff over here.
You stressed “at this stage”... ?

 

* If anyone wants to distro for us, please let us know ASAP!!

 

How many shows have you played yet and how many people come to see the shows?

 

* We play all the time, it is not often that we are not playing a show on a Friday and Saturday night.  I'm no good at estimating crowd numbers, they vary, of course.  We have played shows where people cannot get into the venue.  And of course, we play smaller shows, what I call "family" shows.

 

Your tour leads you through big parts of Australia , I cannot image that you do all that travelling in a van. So how to you travel?

 

* We fly around, courtesy of two airlines who are in fierce competition. 

 

I know a lot of bands and actually every band has some anecdotes about crazy things that have happened during their tours. Is it the same with you?

 

* Yes and no.  We have broad parameters as to what counts for crazy.  Believe it or not, we are very civilized, (individually and historically, that wasn't always so).  Gabriel and Anthony are Gentleman of Distinction at all times.  I don't drink at all.  Johnny and Frankie drink like farmers, not bandits.  Not sure if any of that makes sense.


It does make sense.  Punk Rock is more than dyeing your hair in multi colors, being drunk all the time and bugging people. That might be fun every now and then or even for a while but wouldn’t it be painful to live that cliché all your life? Most of the (punk)-musicians I know are the most gentle and reliable persons I have ever met.

So do you have a funny story which has nothing to do with being totally drunk?

 

* Johnny gets his pants off just when sober just as often as when he's pissed.  I don't know how many people find it funny, maybe it is a behavioural disorder, I find it pretty funny, though.  Actually, drunken Johnny McKelvey stories, or rather, those of his drunken alter-ego 'Wild Ronald' McKelvey, are usually very entertaining.

  

Do you have a favourite place to play and where would you love to play one day?

 

* Over here, we love playing in Brisbane and we have our favourite venues in Sydney , of course.  We're keen to play Japan , and that's on the cards for next year also.

Sounds really cool. Japanese people seem to love Folk-Punk. I actually don’t really understand why but there must be a huge interest in that kind of music. Do you have any explanation?

 

* I get the impression that the Japanese are just very open to all sorts of styles, and they seem to really like and understand high-energy music, from rockabilly to punk to psycho-ceilidh.

   

What are your lyrics about and what inspires or influences you while writing songs?

 

* Frankie writes bawdy songs that are actually very Australian in terms of their wordplay.  He seems to write about misbehaving, really; wenches and booze and such, although he has this song on the new EP that is very poignant.  It is the flipside of the coin to songs like 'I Belong To Glasgow' and all that sort of thing, it is proletariat song but not in some dumb 'down-but-proud' way.  I find it very dark, it's about a man who is resigned to a passive existence, who both resents and accepts it but has never had any intention of doing anything about it.  I like the fact that it is a variation on a theme.

 

My own songs are more about imagery than narrative.  I don't plan it that way, but I can't write "and then he/she did this" sort of songs.  Well, I used to, but now I write stuff that combines the headspace of the character with the landscape, or cityscape or whatever.

 

Which songs / which bands are you listening to at the moment?

 

* One of my favourite albums is Grant Lee Buffalo's 'Mighty Joe Moon', I always have that around.  If there's ever a record with songs that blur the inner and outer landscapes, it's that one.

   

Two more questions short before we end the interview:

 

What was your very first album?

 

* The first album I can remember seeing being bought was The Dubliners, 'Dubliners Now'.  That was when Jim McCann was in the band.  I was about three, and went to see them with my father at Sydney Town Hall .  I can still remember the mystique of the whole thing.

 

What’s the ring tone of your mobile?

 

* I don't have a mobile, I refuse to siphon money into those fucking mobile phone companies.  I send smoke signals with cigarettes.

   

Would you like to leave a message to our readers?

 

* Just that we hope you like our music.  And we definitely hope to come over and make new friends.

I keep my fingers crossed that you will have the chance to come over very soon and I have no doubt that you will make many new friends all over Europe .

Many thanks for the interview!

 

Cheers, Ute!

October 10, 2009 - Saturday 

Does this story sound familiar? A band is formed in Sydney, inspired by the Pogues, by traditional Irish and Scottish music, and by lots of noisy electric stuff as well. The singer was born in ....Glasgow..... Their frantic, drunken gigs are legendary, building up a diverse following of Newtown punks, Blue Mountains folkies, expat Scots and Irish and assorted lefty weirdos. The music is fast, loud and accordion-driven, with ruggedly tuneful vocals over the top. That’s where the similarities between Roaring Jack and the Rumjacks end. A quick listen to Hung, Drawn and Portered, and the Rumjacks assert themselves as a totally different beast.

‘The Plantin’ O’Kitty Randall’ crashes into life with a thumping two-step and Will Swan’s huge accordion sound. You might remember Will from Sydney band the Laundrymen and Melbourne’s Catgut Mary. His accordion fuels the Rumjacks, helping to create a swaggering, lurching pirate punk sound. He’s pretty handy with a tin whistle as well.

Steve Pell, no longer with the band, supplies the concussive percussion on this EP, while Johnny McKelvey handles both guitar and bass. (Since this EP was recorded, Gabe Whitbourne has joined the Rumjacks as guitarist, and Anthony Matters has joined as drummer.) Meanwhile, lead vocalist Frankie McLaughlin spits out a bitter tale of a lassie who discovers that she can make good money loving other men. The gruff vocals suit the mood of the song perfectly. Frankie’s not so cranky on the next track, ‘The Bold Rumjacker’. He shows he really can sing. This one’s more in the style of the Scottish reggae that Roaring Jack attempted on ‘The Ball of Yarn’ some twenty years ago. Frankie admits to being ‘Scottish born and Australian bred / I’m strong in the arm and soft in the head’, declaring he’s off to Van Diemen’s Land in search of romance. His idea of a romantic dinner is ‘Two fish suppers and a paraffin lamp’. This is a great catchy tune that had me skanking and singing along in no time.

Will Swan takes over the vocal duties for the next two tracks. What a luxury for a band to have two competent vocalists. To these ears, many of today’s Celtic punk bands don’t even have one! Will contributes the rollicking ‘Paddy Goes to Babylon’ and the punky sea shanty ‘Down with the Ship’. The defiant song heaps scorn on a scene full of ‘junkies and liars’: ‘There’s more romance in a minister’s pants / Than there is in this scene and its sad pissants’.

The EP concludes with the Rumjacks’ take on traditional Irish favourite, ‘I’ll Tell Me Ma’. This version, transplanting the ‘Belle of Belfast city’ to Sydney, rips along at a cracking pace. It’s a great way to finish proceedings. Hung, Drawn and Portered certainly leaves the listener desperate to hear more. Recorded in only three days, it shows that we can expect big things from this Sydney combo.

You can get this one through Pug Music, or as mp3s via iTunes.

-Andy Carr for 21st Century Reviews

September 13, 2009 - Sunday 
The Rumjacks can drink.  I know.  I've seen them do it.  It's fitting then that I sat down with them at a bar to discuss all the good things to ponder when you're inebriated; namely life, love but mostly music.

"Basically we wanted to condense a traditional Irish sound within a rock band" states accordionist and principal songwriter Will Swan.  This bold young man bonded with bassist Johnny McKelvey over their mutual love of The Pogues and their want to create something a little more organic than their previous endeavours (see DEADBEAT Issue 1).  They enlisted the help of vocalist and bona fide Scot Frankie McLoughlan and promptly locked themselves away in their mountain hideout to begin writing.

Having all been raised on Irish folk music, The Rumjacks wanted to tip their cap, as it were, to their roots while keeping their brogues firmly planted in the modern day sounds of punk and rock, a formula which has so far been used to great success by such folk-punk luminaries as the Dropkick Murphys and Flogging Molly.  "We're not pioneers" Will is quick to state "nor are we going down some hackneyed well-paved path.  What we're interested in doing is playing with a sense of place."  And the band do just that; while Frankie's Scottish howl evokes a sense of wild Celtic abandon, there's something very provincial about The Rumjacks' sound.  It's honest and unpretentious.  They don't feel they have to mention whiskey in every chorus, they even have a sea shanty about the internet.  Says Will "I'll be happy when you can almost smell the cold air of the western plains of New South Wales when you listen to us."

Wasting no time, the band set about playing a slew of shows all across the east coast before disappearing into the studio to record their debut EP 'Hung, Drawn and Portered'.  In keeping with the less-is-more attitude of many punk acts, it was produced over a mere three days, the same amount of time many bands take to tune, with many of the tracks laid down in just a few takes.  In doing this, The Rumjacks felt they captured as best they could, the energy of their live sound. "We'd be happier with 3 days than 3000 days," says Johnny.  "We like to have the foot on the back of the neck when we record."  In fact, in true DIY fashion, they even managed to put a miss-print on their first batch of EPs.  "I was tangling with technology that didn't want to play ball" says a sheepish Frankie, "at least it's a collectors edition."

All jokes of hillbillies aside, it's no surprise then to find out that the majority of the band hail from the Blue Mountains region west of Sydney.  There's a definite sense of isolation to what they do.  "I'd love there to be a rurual sensibility in there" says Will.  "It's nice to step out amongst the autumn leaves and the wood smoke and be able to reflect."  And it's this sense of outsiders-looking-in that sets them apart from other roots-rockers and it's no only Australia that's in their sights.  With their EP being distributed in Europe and talk of an imminent tour, The Rumjacks look to be conquering the seven seas.

A so, we drain the last of our pints and are prompltly refused bar service and escorted from the premises like so many Celts before us.  Shane would be proud.

Cha deoch-slaint, I gun a traghadh.


J.D.
DEADBEAT MAGAZINE Issue 11



September 13, 2009 - Sunday 

BOMBSHELLZINE.COM

THE HOTSEAT

2009 EDITION

THE BASICS

Name : Will Swan
Band : The Rumjacks
Job In Band : Accordion, Tin Whistle, ‘Second Vocalist’, Lyricist of some sort
Website Address : www.myspace.com/therumjacks

HOME

Hometown : Sydney, NSW, Australia

Hometown is best known for The Harbour & the cityscapes it provides

Best thing about the music scene in your hometown : The flair
Most influential band to yourself that’s come out of your home town : Influence is relative

Best up and coming band from your home town would be : Probably some band with lots of hair starch/wax/gum or something.

THE BAND

What’s the story behind the band name?

We did a William Burroughs cut-up method to get the name.  Frankie struggled with this.  The other band members got distracted by beer taps.  So I just kept on cutting-up, and came up with ‘Rumjacks’.  Not really sure what it means but we like to think it has a playing card character quality about it.  It sounds like a working troubadour.

When did the band begin and how did it come about?

Johnny was in a rockabilly band, but needed more than Chris Isaac covers and brutal-looking wanna-be pin-up chicks to soothe his wild soul.  I found myself back in Sydney after playing in Melbourne folk punk bands.  From this point, we gathered ragged pirates from wherever we found them.  In all honesty, the band found the members.  This is true.

How would you describe your sound to the average Joe on the street?’

Punk rock with a howling host of desperate horse-thieves providing the chorus and with a very loud accordion in there somewhere.

What’s your current release? Tell us a little about it…

We have an EP entitled ‘Hung, Drawn & Portered’.  It features four of our own songs and one traditional cover.  We cover drunken funerals, addiction and recovery, migration, Beatniks and Van Diemen’s Land in our own songs on that EP.

What image do you think / hope your music conveys?

This would be relative.  But something righteous and irreverent by turns.  Something tropical, something historical.  Something open to interpretation, to be honest.

In five years time the band will be…

Coming up with innovative ideas for merch to sell at shows.

OFF THE STAGE :

What was your first introduction to music that made you think seriously about playing it?

I picked up a tin whistle because I’d encountered The Pogues, who had re-introduced me to the folk music I’d been surrounded by as I wee boy. My family was right into Steeleye Span, The Dubliners, pipe music, Australian bush music, The Chieftains, etc.  My old man is a gun tin whistle player, so I got a couple of tips, but generally I just played along to Pogues and Dubliners records and anything else with tin whistle in it. 

What was your first band name and what style did you play?

My brother, who is a gun banjo and mandolin player, and me had a band which was largely underage called ‘The Harridans’, we played in bars and wherever we could.  We were playing so-called ‘Paddypunk’ before anyone, it was loose and mad, totally unselfconscious.  We’d play Dylan covers, Tom Waits covers, hillbilly songs, a few originals.  It was all about drinking homebrew on stage and blood on the strings.  I was at uni but I still consider it a sort of childhood.

Tell us three albums you couldn’t live without in your collection

The Pogues: Red Roses For Me

Tom Waits: Rain Dogs

Steve Earle: Transcendental Blues


Best piece of musical advice you’ve been given

I never listen too closely to sound mixers because they all say something totally different to one another and they generally have trouble focusing.

Two groups/artists you’d love to take out on the road

1)     A good band with a great girl singer up the front, so we could poach her for a duet with Frankie. 

2)     Any band that who can talk about interesting stuff.  Most bands are made up of either suburban bogans or inner-city lightweights.  True free-thinkers are hard to find.  I'm joking, of course.  I lived in Marrickville, Sydney and Brunswick, Melbourne, for a hundred years each, so I'm only joking about the inner-city lightweights. 


Favourite song of your group?

‘I’ll Tell Me Ma’, because the room just blasts off in all these different directions.

The thing you most look forward to just before a tour is

The next hot meal.  In one band I was in, I was reduced to eating an apple for my one meal in Hobart, although we’d been promised hot meals.  So I try and keep it hot wherever possible.

The thing you least look forward to before a tour is

That cold sock feeling you get when playing cold places where you don’t have time to change your socks after sweating them through.

When you’re not doing band related stuff, what are you usually found doing?

Reading books by or about Jack Kerouac, William Burroughs, Charles Bukowski, reading tattoo magazines, kicking a hacky sack around with my girl and my ragamuffin dog, prowling around trinket markets and Chinatown food courts, buying incense and charms.

ON THE STAGE / ROAD

What gear do you use?

I play a 60-bass Paloma piano accordion.  This is an inexpensive accordion, what I like to call a ‘combat accordion’, made in China under Italian license.  I use a K & K Sound Systems accordion mic system preamp (belt-pack).  I play a Dixon tin whistle that I ordered from Yorkshire.

Favourite place (city/town/country) you’ve toured… and why?

Brisbane, specifically the shows we’ve played for Punkfest at The Jubilee Hotel in Fortitude Valley.  They tear it up, it’s tribal and they’re just all really friendly, hard-dancing people.  They don’t do it by halves in Brisbane.

The best show you’ve ever played was… and why?

The most recent Punkfest show up there.  It went vertical, we were just bouncing up and down from the centrifugal force of the room, and Frankie went all ‘Rage Against The Machine’, which was fun.  It felt sort of ‘pagan’.

Who hogs the stereo in the van the most?

I have always considered myself entitled to DJ duties on road trips generally, because I don’t drive.  But we talk so much that we don’t actually play much music.  I mean, we’re not a breezy, reflective kind of deal when we’re together, we really just blather on.

After a week in the van/bus on tour which band member will have the messiest section, and what would we most likely find stashed there?

We haven’t done that long together in one haul yet, but sooner or later we will.  Johnny McKelvey is easily the messiest member in the road trip department, on account of his whole McDonalds thing.  And dig this; he’s a vegetarian who digs Maccas.  So he orders meatless McBurgers every time we go anywhere, and there’s all the detritus from that stuff.

Who in your group has the worst “bad habit” on tour, and what is it?

Frankie seems to skip meals, and Johnny sometimes forgets to shave.  Personally, I will have none of that rock’n’roll nonsense!!

Most embarrassing moment on tour?

Getting in the vehicles to drive to wherever we were staying after not getting paid by a certain Canberra venue.  “Oh, didn’t we tell you?  You had to sort the door yourselves”. That makes you feel like a dancing clown who just danced for free.  But we sold a lot of CDs that night, so bollocks to them.

Give us a good quick ‘on the road’ story, funny, embarrassing, memorable, whatever…

We pulled into a certain hamburger chain restaurant out in the country and a real hay bale of a local yokel was eating his cheeseburger while sitting on the toilet with the door open.  Just gazing vacantly. 

Your manager calls and says the venue you are about to play really wants to keep you happy, what’s the first thing you chuck on the rider?

I’d get those original Red Bull drinks that come in the gold tins, the real Thai ones, the stuff that tastes like medicine.  Not that ripped-off sugary crap that nightclub losers mix up with vodka.  I don’t drink alcohol any more, so that’d be my request.  The others would probably ask for Jamesons Irish Whiskey. Anthony would specify red cordial, he is fuelled by fire engines.

RIGHT NOW

What’s getting the most spins in your stereo right now?

Right this second?  The Aggrolites’ new record.  It’s got me yearning for summer.

Tell us a band or artist everyone should check out and why…

The Snowdroppers.  You know why?  Because they’re like us, in two ways:

1)     They LIVE their thing.  They’re not like these wankers who get all dressed up when (and only when) they’ve got to play; you know the types?  Dandy effete rockabillys can be especially bad in this regard.  Anyway, in the case of The Snowdroppers, their ‘thing’ is vintage cocaine blues, they’ve got this whole Bonny & Clyde thing going on, they look like bootleggers who’ve just held up a barbershop in some Louisiana township, they look like they carry straight edge razors and only sleep with women who wear suspenders every day.  In fact, they do only sleep with women who wear suspenders all the time.

2)     They take the same approach to the influence of musical roots on their own music as we do.  In our case, it’s traditional ‘Celtic’ and folk music, in their case it’s blues.

If you could change one thing about the music industry today, what would it be?

Better PAs in the venues.  If only the venue owners really knew how much punters and bands talk about a venue pretty much ONLY in terms of its sound.  Everything else comes a distant second.  They should put all their energy into the sound.  Build it and they will come.


Thanks so much. 


Much appreciated,

Will

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
August 28, 2009 - Friday 
The following is an uncut, unfiltered, unwashed, unedited, uncensored conversation between Jesse Stewart of Seattle's rockabilly Appalachian death punk gringos, 'The Wages of Sin', and our own Rumjack, Will Swan.  First instalment as is follows:


[JESSE]: So, young Swan--what are some musical styles beyond “Celtic” and punk that have had a big impact on you? Where did you first hear them?

(WILL):  Yeah, the old 'Celtic' vs 'Punk' model, ay??  Well, there's  a lot more to it than that, of course.  You know, I see songs - maybe a lot of people do - in terms of the light in those songs, the actual daylight or moonlight or streetlight or bar lights.  The elements of the setting.  And I've always dug the way that Spaghetti Western music, if you will, or 'horse opera' sort of music, has this big rootsy sound that really resonates the sense of wide open spaces.  There's this Spanish/Mexican component to it, of course, the whole Day Of The Dead thing, the romantic violence and violent romance.  I believe you've trod this perilous path in your own music, Jesse?  If Ennio Morricone more or less galvanized it, then he was certainly taking a sensibility that was always there.  Cowboy music, flamenco music.  Big rock'n'roll and rockabilly bottleneck guitar sounds.  Big resonant Gibsons or Gretschs, I'm not sure exactly, I'm not a string player.  But that sort of thing always strikes a chord, you hear it in Reverend Horton Heat, you hear it in punk rock (like Rancid's 'Django').  The Pogues celebrated it so fucking gloriously in 'Rake At The Gates Of Hell', which is just totally soaked in sunshine and blood and dust.  Coming from a country of wide open spaces, and being someone who has done road trips my whole life, as opposed to being some suburban couch potato, that's always appealed to me.  There's an serious outlaw mythology in America and Australia that's part of this also.  And then there's the mad religious imagery, that's part of that gunslinging thing, too.  I'd say that I felt I'd come full circle when I stood with the cathedrals of Portugal looming over me, just standing there in their shadows above the crypts full of bones, totally blitzed on Portuguese white port, and thought "fuck yeah, this is what it's about!".   I've got this instrumental in my back catalogue somewhere, maybe Rumjacks will do it, called 'Dos Gusanos', a tequila brand I once picked up in a Portuguese bottle shop in Sydney.  I just dig all  that stuff.  I'm not Catholic, but I dig that Spanish style of Catholic imagery, to put it mildly.  You're a gringo like me but wouldn't you agree ....??

[JESSE]: Man, I can tell already it's going to be hard to keep this on track, you've raised a half-dozen interesting ideas that I could follow on some meandering  tangent or other. I'll try to stick to one at a time... I'm struck by your idea of seeing the light in songs, it captures the way music can tickle so much more then just the ear -- all the emotions it can evoke, the way sense-memory will kick in for places you've never been, places that might not even exist. That feeling you had at the cathedrals of Portugal, that sense of the sublime (in the original sense of the word) -- it does seem to strike one in churches and graveyards, doesn't it? Certainly those types of sounds -- the ones that evoke dusty old churches and sun-baked little towns, blood and dust and horse-sweat and the hero dying with rose in one hand and a pistol in the other -- are a big part of my influences. The cowboy/flamenco thing, rockabilly and classic country (which I played for years before the Wages). So what do you think is the appeal of those sounds -- what ties it to the Celtic or Punk-rock influences? I'm wondering if it's the rebel thing, the outlaw -- I can see ties between the American/Australian mythology (which have some interesting parallels in and of themselves) and the Irish/Scottish 'rebel' mythology. There's a common thread there celebrating the loner; the man against the world; the doomed, romantic struggle against the tyranny of that overwhelming foe.. The fight to save your way of life (which is in itself interesting, since it's a fundamentally conservative point of view). And of course Punk is all about rebellion against the status quo (putting aside that it's become the status quo in some ways...), all about your own way of life. Is there some common mythology uniting the vision behind the music? What do ye reckon?
 
(WILL): I reckon some sense of rebellion is inherent in the music, both overtly and indirectly.  It gets represented in different ways; in rockabilly, I suppose there's this time capsule around its aesthetic that preserves a sense of postwar rock'n'roll rebellion. That whole hyped menace of 'fifties alarmist news reels, delinquents and tearaways and all that.  Now, over half a century later, this is more a case of honouring something, perhaps?  Part subculture, part quaint historical re-enactment, part evolving musical form.  And then there's the whole Confederate thing going on in that, which is represented internationally.  We had a bloke at a Rumjacks show who had a great tattoo, 'The South Pacific Will Rise Again', he was a burly Islander.  I thought that was great.  I might be generalising but I have always seen rockabilly as essentially 'southern' music that took on everywhere else but carried implicit and explicit rebel imagery with it.  And I think about it springing from Scots-Irish environments and sometimes wonder if Johnny from our band has rockabilly hardwired into him, given his Scots-Irish background, he'll hate me for saying it, but to me it just rings true!
 
The rebellious element is represented in so many ways, from gang vocals to pure volume to a common emphasis on drink and drunkeness.  I've looked at this last one from opposite perspectives.  Drunkeness is just a lens - a way of literally looking out at the world -  and music celebrating it isn't really celebrating the drunkard so much as how he sees the world.  In that sense, making music on the subject is a pretty pure take on things.  Because you feel liberated when you're drunk, songs celebrating that sensation are an inevitability.  But short of smashing things up because you're drunk, you really might as well be eating chocolate by way of a 'rebellious' act as getting sideways drunk.  It's just a valve for most people and that's fair enough, although the Saturday night barroom hero is probably just some obedient citizen or henpecked wage slave..  That was never my own deal when it came to drinking, I was in it on a totally different level and lived a  totally different philosophy, but I suppose there will be songs that celebrated the liberation-by-numbers that most people treat drinking as.
 
The romantic underdog 'Celtic' sensibility always comes up, of course.  This simplified narrative of the REBEL Irish & Scots is such a huge phenomenon, a really, really complicated, messy, ridiculous, stupid, justified, heartbreaking, untold, true, false, tragic and bawdy story all in one,  and all through the history of the British Isles and the history of the diasporas.  Some bands and songwriters choose to represent it in ways that are crude and absurd if not completely offensive.  Some incorporate it in expressions of profound poignancy.   This concept of identity probably differs slightly throughout different parts of the Celtic diaspora.  It is characterized by amnesia, assimilation, denial and romanticism but it also bears the bloodstains of truth.  It's a huge subject in itself, full of contradictions.  But the fact that we are talking about it, acknowledging 'it', the 'Celtic rebel indentity', means there must be something in it, whatever that is.  And for the record, just so you don't think I'm some cold-blooded casual observer, my own family tree is, for a large part, made up of Scottish and Irish people who came to this country through the 19th Century up until the First World War, and I also have American Scots-Irish blood, and Welsh, (and I've got cheesey pugilistic leprechaun and Clan motto tattoos, so there!).
 
And perhaps the 'rebellion' doesn't have to mean singing hoary old IRA songs, or Jacobite songs, maybe just the music itself, the actual MUSIC, maybe that's an expression of survival and proliferation, if not rebellion.  Because music that came on leaking boats, after Highland clearances and evictions and all, well, if that music has survived and evolved in the New Worlds, then that's something in itself.
 
And there's another big ol' rebel motif in a lot of the music, too, and that's the whole PIRATE thing!  'Cause pirates are fun and pirates are cool.  Now, Jesse, I've got to ask ... does the whole nautical thing appeal, or what !?

[JESSE: ] Well I think it's pretty clear the nautical thing appeals to me, haha (I'm listening to the Dreadnoughts as I type this...). At least on the salty surface I think it taps into the same emotional response as the dusty vistas discussed above. The (romanticized) sense of adventure, exploration, possibility - the FREEDOM of traveling to new ports of call, of doing whatever - laughable, really, since you're trapped on a boat aren't you, and subject to the officers' every whim? But that's the dream anyway, the fantasy. And the endless sea, that vast and beautiful and terrible expanse, the smell of salt and fish and seaweed, the birds wheeling overhead - it gives me the shivers.

And pirates, who doesn't like 'em? Most kids like pirates - I know I devoured "Treasure Island" and "Kidnapped" and all that RL Stevenson stuff as a kid, plus non-fiction books about "the worst pirates in history" and the like. The N.C. Wyeth paintings in Treasure Island are still my mental image of what pirates should look like.

And of course pirates tap into that whole rebel/outlaw thing too don't they? Masters of the sea, doing what they want, etc. - not at all like the merciless thugs they actually were for the most part (same with the sentimental vision of Old West outlaws like Jesse James, who was pretty much a confederate/segregationist terrorist). You only have to look at real pirates today to see that pirates are about as glamorous as a junkie who mugs you for a fix, but we of course prefer the noble Robin Hood vision of it.

I like the image of 'rebel' music expressing survival and proliferation, rather then just the romantic doomed battle - isn't survival and proliferation the ultimate rebellion? That seems like a piece that's often missing from 'updated' takes on roots music – the positive, celebratory side of it (Gogol Bordello comes to mind there). Many acts seem to have kind of a shallow understanding of the music and its history, and just grab onto a few cool images or tropes. Natural enough, it's how we all start with, but you hope it leads to a deeper understanding at some point. It's what leads to those 'crude and absurd' representations of the whole Celtic/rebel narrative you mentioned, and also to a lot of the (in the USA anyway) 'St. Patricks' Day' drunken-Irish stereotypes. (And BTW I am NOT trying to present myself as some kind of expert on any of this stuff, I’m just barely scrathing the surface at this point.) It happens with country music too - lots of people love Johnny Cash singing "Folsom Prison Blues" or "Cocaine Blues" but don't want to hear him sing "I Was There When It Happened" or any of the religious stuff. It's all Saturday night and no Sunday morning, if you know what I mean.

It's funny, because I find that stuff very moving, and I'm not religious at all - I generally consider myself an atheist. In fact, overt religious (particularly Christian) lyrics usually turn me off to a song or artist right quick – except of course for the dozens of exceptions, ha. I had someone listen to a bunch of Wages songs once and he said "A lot of angels and devils", and he's right - that imagery resonates even though I can count the number of times I've been to church without running out of digits. I don’t know if it’s just cultural memory, or if it’s maybe that so much religious imagery is built on mythology that goes back to the first hairy bastards sitting around a fire telling stories. But I find those symbols really powerful, even if I don’t have much use for the organization behind them. You mentioned earlier digging that ‘mad religious imagery’ - do you connect with it in a religious or spiritual way, or more as a part of the atmosphere you try to conjure when you write? What’s your take on the religious influence on roots music? It’s certainly a huge part of the catalog going back...

(Will): Well, I'm going to throw in a disclaimer here myself and just say I'm not a bonafide folklorist, but this is really interesting stuff.  As far as I know, there are NO Australian folk songs that really even mention religion.  And as for the Irish component of the ballad tradition - which is a major part of the whole deal - I can't really think of too many at all.  Of the cuff here, there's a song that parodies piety ('The Glendalough Saint') and one that is a sort of comical take on sectarianism ('The Old Orange Flute').  I can't think of too many that espouse the Catholic church or anything.
 
That which I relate to on a spiritual level can be found in Kerouac's 'Dharma Bums', or in the films of Terrence Malick  ('The Thin Red Line').  I'm not sure what it's called.  Maybe 'eternity', maybe something taoist, who knows.  That sense informs and reflects my entire world view, it is a non-belief system, or an all-belief, if you will.  Maybe on some subtle level that will come into my writing.
 
(BUT ... I reserve the right to dig all and any religious aesthetics and characters.  It's all FOLKLORE, after all.  But my themes in writing seem to be pretty much wordly, especially in relation to ideas of liberty.  Liberty from the shackles of addiction, or stagnant relationships, or from jobs and ruts that have you wanting to jump out the window.  Those things bring on what Bukowski called "death in life".  And you mentioned Gogol Bordello; I LOVE their whole take on freedom and liberty.  I always loved that band and I listen to them more and more now, my girlfriend is Hungarian-Australian, that gypsy stuff is on high rotation).
 
But in folk music, I'd say you can't talk about Appalachian and American country music without acknowledging the religious subjects and themes.  They're just so much part of it all, aren't they?  And often, because of the sheer sincerity involved, nobody can really knock that stuff.  Far from it, everyone loves it.  You can take the most humanist, secular, intellectual, urbane, free-thinking, atheist music fan, and nine times out of ten they'll really dig everything from the 'dark' Johnny Cash spiritual songs (a perfect example, by the way, Jesse) to the 'O Brother, Where Art Thou ?' soundtrack. 'Will The Circle Be Unbroken', 'I Saw The Light' ... all those old-timey songs.  I think it must be the sincerity and 'rawness' of the delivery, as opposed to any desire for a religious connection.  
 
Nick Cave has often incorporated these elements very directly.  So too has Tom Waits, more often with a gospel strain are the true masters of the craft.
 
Perhaps those themes of redemption are universal, and perhaps they are part of the rock'n'roll mythology, the opposite of excess and 'sin'?  Taken to its extreme, this idea is explored in 'hanging songs', if you will.  Not just the concept of the doomed outlaw, but of the human man literally at the end of his rope.  To acknowledge this subject in song is not something undertaken lightly.  For my own part, the idea of state-sanctioned slaughter is a disgusting barbarity that has always haunted me; it's kept me awake at night.  It still does sometimes, the same as when I was a kid.  And when it comes to death row songs, NOBODY does writes it like Steve Earle.  I think a lot of Australians have completely forgotten - if they even bothered thinking about it in the first place - that (white) Australia was founded in the shadow of the gallows and the cat o'nine tails.  
 
For the record, Jesse, my favourite Wages Of Sin song is 'The Drunkard's Prayer'.  Not the word 'Prayer' in there!!  I think it is emblematic, it's a terrific song that really honours its musical and thematic roots.  I love it because it is purely rootsy, unrestrained, ambiguous and whimsical, and it just rocks hard.  And I'm a recovered alcoholic, although I didn't find sobriety through 'that old time religion'.
 
We've covered a fair bit of ground here, Jesse.

[JESSE] I think you’ve summed it up pretty nicely, so I’ll just add a few odds and sods. Interesting (but maybe not surprising) that so much of the religious stuff comes out of the USA, that protestant gospel tradition combined with our legacy of slavery--all those spirituals and field songs. That actually touches on your concept of liberty as a subject matter in a more literal sense—songs about freedom, and singing as a way to find some kind of relief, some kind of escape, when your body is in shackles. Like Solomon Burke sings: When one of us is chained none of us are free.

You could argue that ‘Tyburn Jig’ takes the hanging concept lightly—certainly the lyrics there are in a bit of a contrast to the delivery. I had some friends of my brother who played that at their wedding! I don’t think they listened to the words too closely, haha. I’m with you on Steve Earle—I had the great fortune to see him on the ‘Train a Comin’ tour, just after he got out of jail. It was one of those shows—you know what I mean, yeah?--that was just magic from start to finish, easily one of the best musical experiences of my life. And he played ‘Ellis Unit One’, which hadn’t been released yet (the movie wasn’t even out). Just him and a guitar, and it was breathtaking—all the hair on my arms standing straight up, I swear to dog.

The Drunkard’s Prayer, yeah another religious metaphor, haha. It’s meant to be a bit ambiguous, it’s actually quite personal but I don’t like to be too literal with my lyrics, ya know? Ultimately though it’s not asking for sobriety (or personal salvation)--it’s looking for some hope for our species, our world, our universe...

For me I’ll have to go with ‘Paddy Goes To Babylon’ (at least this week). I’m probably mis-hearing most of the lyrics, but the chorus really resonates—it’s silver and it’s gold!--the whole thing’s got a kind of rough-hewn celebratory vibe to my ear, the perils and pleasures of Babylon. Kicking against your “death in life”--that pretty much captures it right there.

And with that I’m done rambling for tonight... Cheers mate, here’s hoping we can do it over a mug of coffee sometime!
 
(Will): That we will, Jesse.  But before that, we'll treat the folks to Round 2.  I've got quite a few questions brewing already.  Cheers indeed!
August 27, 2009 - Thursday 
 The Rumjacks have released their first EP, 'Hung Drawn & Portered'. For a first EP from a band that have only been around since Spring '08, this is an exceptional taste of what's coming up with their forthcoming release, 'Sound As A Pound', available in the next few weeks.The five tracks give you a good taste of why the lads are getting a big following of loyal 'Rumjackers'.
I sure couldn't tell you what song I liked best as all of them are bloody brilliant.
I asked my housemate & the lads what they thought were the best and they came up with 'Down With The Ship' & I’ll Tell Me Ma! or the slightty slower ballad 'Paddy Goes To Babylon'.
Hard to describe their sound ,a bit of Irish/Scottish folk and punk thrown all together to create something that's their own unique style.
It sure is a refreshing change to whats on offer lately.
The lads are touring around a fair bit NSW, Qld, Hobart and the ACT and an early summer Victorian tour is on the cards. They are one band you have to see live, the energy and atmosphere guarantees a top night out ..I flew to Sydney recently and saw them play and was not disappointed.
As every one knows I’m an Oi byrd but the frenetic pace and catchy lyrics of the lads will sure get you roaring in no time
So grab your self a pint of Guinness and enjoy!
Read more about The Rumjacks further back in the 'Roo!
August 20, 2009 - Thursday 

The Rumjacks - 'Hung, Drawn and Portered'

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Well for a band that has only been around about 12 months (perhaps not even that) these guys have certainly aquired themselves a good following and have managed to release a friggin awesome debut E.P. My main gripe about the E.P is just that, it is an E.P. E.P's are good, if the band is shit, but they suck when the band isn't shit.
 
 
Residing in Sydney, the Rumjacks play a punk rock, irish/scottish folk kind of music in an Australian way. This 5 track E.P, which has already made itself to number 8 of the top Pug Music bestsellers, is just an awesome listen. All the tracks are good, catchy, sing a long tracks with that definite irish/scottish punky folky feel, but with something extra in there. Not really sure what the extra is, maybe its an Aussie feel, maybe it is the vocals, I dunno, but I like it that's for sure. Trying to sit here and work out if there are tracks I prefer more than others. 'Bold Rumjacker' with its slower and more ballady, but not ballady at all sound, could be one. But then 'Paddy goes to babylon' which is more upbeat but just as catchy is also one I could say I prefer more. I guess it is just one of those albums where your favourite track happens to be the one you are listening to at the time. 
My 3 year old daughter has just wandered up and told me 'thats a good song. I like that one'. So it seems 'Not going down with the ship' has the thumbs up from her!
Over the next few months you can catch them around Sydney, Canberra and even Hobart.  But if you are in Victoria like me, then you will have to settle for buying the E.P for now. Of course from Pug Music, but I wouldn't need to tell you that eh.