The Mob formed around Yeovil in Somerset, England, around the beginning of 1978. The band at this time consisted of Mark (guitar, vocals and songwriter), Graham (drums), and Curtis (bass and backing vocals).  They played local halls and did not go too far out of the west country region at this early time in the band's history.

A lot of the early gigs were attended by local meatheads, and there was quite a bit of hostility shown from some members of the audience, towards the band and their friends, which sometimes ended in violence. The Mob did blag a slot on the 1978 Stonehenge festival, which they supported and performed at during the next couple of years.

The following year, 1979, the band's gigs opened up quite a bit, the band went on the road with Here and Now who drew a quite different audience than the 'bored youngsters' that would cause trouble in youth clubs in and around Yeovil. The band also experienced playing their first European gigs with Here And Now in Holland, towards the end of the year, and got to know the members and hangers on of the free festival scene, the band again played the summer solstice Stonehenge festival.

The band's first single Crying Again 7" was recorded in the winter of 1979 at Crypt Studios in Stevenage, by Here And Now's soundman, and resident Street Level Studios engineer, Grant Showbiz.

The record was put out on their own All The Madmen Records label, with the help of Max who saved up a lot of the cash to put the single out in the early months of 1980.

At this time there was a small explosion of various local like minded individuals who had started bands and began to organise their gigs with The Mob. Some of the friends included Geoff, who had the original All The Madmen fanzine based at his parents house, where most of the friends would hang out without too much grief from Geoff's parents.

The record label name was a continuation of the fanzine name, as the fanzine was dying down a bit by then. Debbie (who went on to form My Bloody Valentine in the mid 1980's) and Christine from The Bikini Mutants were regular friends as was Wilf who supplied the artwork for a lot of the releases on All The Madmen and all The Mobs output in particular. The Androids Of Mu were also close to The Mob at this time.

This first record was sold via All The Madmen fanzine, at gigs, and also at Acorn Records, which is in fact still in Yeovil to this day.

The next single Witch Hunt 7" was recorded in the summer of 1980 at Spaceward in Cambridge, and had a much bigger impact, reaching further out via the network of fanzines growing up in the rise of Crass and bands of that 'scene'. Also John Peel played it a bit, and just about everybody's first experience of The Mob, if you were outside their immediate local area, was this single. At the start there is a blood-curdling scream, this scream was used on the ansa-phone message when ringing up Geoff's house in Larkhill Road from then on! Probably not now though, so please do not try.

More local gigs followed, also a small 'free' tour in the vein of what Here And Now were promoting a year earlier. This tour was called Weird Tales and included The Mob, The Astronauts, Zounds, Andriods Of Mu plus any local bands that happened to be in the area the tour had got to that day…A few tracks still exist on tape of this era, mostly on Kif Kif's cassette label Fuck Off Rekcords (Tribute To Bert Weeden and a little later on, Folk In Hell) being two of them, worth listening to.

The band played the Stonehenge free festival in 1980, unfortunately this was the year when some trouble brewed up during the day from some violent biker gangs who did not have the patience to listen to 'punk' music specifically Crass who were to play there set later on in the evening. The Snipers and The Mob got off lightly, but when The Epileptics (soon to be renamed Flux Of Pink Indians) were performing the trouble started and many people were hurt in the clashes. Zounds, Poison Girls and Crass did not even get to perform (although both Crass and Poison Girls successfully played this same festival the year before with no trouble whatsoever!), as the promoters and the sound guy, Grant Showbiz, could not guarantee the safety of these bands or the punks who had come to see them perform.
In the later months of 1980, Mark and Curtis moved up to London, Graham had decided to stay in Yeovil so the band were in need of a new drummer. After trying out Adie (from Null And Void) and a guy called Tim, they recruited drummer Josef Porter (also playing for Zounds and Entire Cosmos).

On the back of the popularity of the Witch Hunt single, and with the new drummer in place, they got together to record some tracks to be released on cassette format. The tape was recorded in Josef's bedroom in Brougham Road, Hackney and was eventually entitled Ching. This basic recording was sold at gigs and through mailorder to people writing to the band.

The band caught the attention of Penny Rimbaud, drummer and writer for the seminal anarcho-punk band Crass, who recruited them for a single on Crass Records.

No Doves Fly Here 7" is not quite like anything else the Mob ever recorded. This is partly because of the tune's violently slow pace and vivid anti-war lyrics. It's also due to the production tweaks added later by Rimbaud at Southern Studios in North London, including his famous sound clips and a very prominent synth track that the band hadn't expected, and at the time it really pissed the band off. There are test pressings of the original drum and bass version around, which sounds decent enough, but I think what Penny tried to do, does add emotion to this track, and the tracks sounds better for the tweaking, that is just my view though and I also like and respect Penny very much!

The intense power of the song, combined with Crass' better distribution via Rough Trade, ensured this release to be in the top 5 of the then independent charts for several weeks.

They played the infamous ZigZag squat gig in December 1982, along with some of the best in the anarcho-punk scene including Omega Tribe, Faction, Dirt, Null And Void, Lack Of Knowledge, The Apostles, Conflict, Poison Girls, D and V, and Crass themselves.

In the autumn of 1982, The Mob recorded some tracks at Spaceward with the financial help of Alistair and Mick Lugworm. The product was released by All the Madmen Records, early the following year, in the spring of 1983, with the backing of Geoff Travis of Rough Trade, who saw the potential in dealing with this band / label for his organisation.

The Let The Tribe Increase album was a milestone for The Mob, and for the 'scene' that the band had been lumped into against their wishes. The band never wanted any labels pushed onto them, although they had respect for all the individuals that they crossed paths with, bands, writers, activists etc. The album is considered a 'classic' by many 1000's of people around the world, and rightly so. 

The release came with stunning artwork (borrowed if we are to be polite, from Alternative TV's second album's Vibing Up The Senile Man – The ATV album nobody liked, because it was not fast and did not have enough fuzz boxes on it!), and a huge poster…The original artwork that was considered would have been too expensive to print so the band went for the cheaper two colour option instead.

The album hit the top 3 in the independent charts with the help of the fanzine writers and the music weeklies of the time which in no small way was down to Alistair and Tony D from Kill Your Pet Puppy fanzine pushing the album whenever and wherever they could, including getting a cover and centre spread of Punk Lives magazine which had quite a large circulation at the time. Also The Mob playing to such colourful audiences at Centro Iberico and Meanwhile Gardens, and a host of other 'off the circuit' venues helped to push the record. Furthermore bands like Blood And Roses, Sex Gang Children, Southern Death Cult and Brigandage were getting positive publicity at the time, and The Mob were generally regarded as a similar sort of band attitude wise, esp in the better fanzines like Kill Your Pet Puppy and Vague, as well as the music weeklies.
The final Mob release was the Mirror Breaks 7" again recorded at Spaceward and released in the summer of 1983. Musically it was one of the prettier songs that the band had attempted, but with the same feel and some of the best lyrics of any Mob song in the set at the time.

This single was selling very well, as was the album, what better time to knock it on the head, and get something else done than at the pinnacle of the band…Mark decided a couple of months after a European tour in the winter of 1983, to put down his guitar, put his teepee in the truck, and roam around the countryside, originally with The Peace Convoy, then later settling down near Bath with his young family. Bowing out at the top was a sensible thing to have done, and the band's legacy is greater for it.

Josef and Curtis continued together with Blyth Power until those old friends split up late 1986. Josef carried on Blyth Power for many years with different line ups, and they still play a few times a year. Curtis became a succesful chef and  hopefully will own his own restaurant in the future, in Wales. Josef is now in charge of testing models (toys not girls) for a magazine, Mark has a van parts business, buying and selling. Wilf, the artist and close friend to all the band, passed away in the late 1990's.

All the Madmen continued though under Alistairs guidance after Mark had disappeared in 1984, He helped release the Astronauts album in late 1983, Flowers In The Dustbin 12" and Zos Kia 7" in 1984. Rob Challice from Faction, took the label over in 1985 and released a whole heap more until early 1988, see All The Madmen Records myspace for details of all the release's on the label...

Thanks for reading,

Mickey 'Penguin' x

MOB01 - Crying Again / Youth - recorded at Crypt, Stevenage by Grant Showbiz - recorded 1979 released 1980 - All The Madmen Records

MAD02 - Witchhunt / Shuffling Souls - recorded at Spaceward, Cambridge by Mike Kemp - 1980 - All The Madmen Records

321984/7 - No Doves Fly Here / I Hear You Laughing - recorded at Southern Studios by Penny and John Loder - 1981 - Crass Records

MAD04 - Let The Tribe Increase LP - recorded at Spaceward by Ted and The Mob - recorded 1982 released 1983 - All The Madmen Records

MAD06 - Mirror Breaks / Stay - recorded at Spaceward, Cambridge by Joe Bull and The Mob - 1983 - All The Madmen Records

MAD13 - Reissue 12" Crying Again / Youth / Gates Of Hell* / No Doves Fly Here* / Whats Going On* * Live recordings - 1986 - All The Madmen Records

CFC02 - Live At LMC Camden 1983 - split live recording with The Apostles - 1986 - Cause For Concern Records - THIS IS A BOOTLEG PUT OUT BY LARRY PETERSON AND IS A RECORDING MADE IN THE CROWD, NOT THE MIXING DESK...

Obviously all this vinyl stock is long gone, and you will have to search for it in specialist record shops dealing with decent secondhand stock, or you could try ebay to see if anyone is selling there old copies worldwide.

There is a cd going around with most of the tracks above on. In the U.K and Europe the cd is on Rugger Bugger records, in the U.S the same cd is on Broken Records. I think they are still avaliable, worth checking with online stores such as Amazon.

* New CD of very old recordings (some Streetlevel tracks / The Ching sessions recorded in Josef's bedroom at Brougham Road / live tracks) avaliable now on Overground Records - details in seperate blog on this site.

Thanks to Al and www.greengalloway.blogspot.com for letting us rip this off his site.

LIVING WITH THE ENGLISH FEAR
The Story Of The Mob by Lance Hahn 1967- 2007

"No Doves Fly Here" is one of the most powerful musical statements to come out of what we're calling anarcho punk and if you didn't know any better you would have it all wrong. By traditional standards, it's barely a punk song at all, dead slow in tempo with repetitive, hypnotic bass lines. In some ways, the music is gothic with roots in songs like "Hollow Hills" by Bauhaus. Lyrically, it's poetic. Previously, anarcho punk had great difficulty marrying poetics into their music. Poetry was meant to stand alone serving as an introduction to the song. The faster tempos and aggressive chord progressions made poetry in lyrics difficult usually coming off as cartoon-ish. But with the down tempo of "No Doves" it worked. The Mob were hippie punks. But there was something dark and ominous about a lot of their music. They were death hippies, tripping on the apocalypse. And it was all coming from the unlikely area of Yeovil.

Mark, guitarist and vocalist, "When punk came along, me and Curtis were punks overnight. We went to watch bands like the Cortinas and Siouxsie and the Slits… anyone who played in the West Country. We would take our gear along and try to play. Occasionally (very) we would succeed. I remember reading of punk in the NME and I hadn't got through the first paragraph and I knew it was for me. I remember praying I'd like the music that went with it. There were no punk records and none on the radio. It's hard to imagine now, but we would buy any record as it was released if it was vaguely punk; Eater, Slaughter and the Dogs, Wreckless Eric, anything!"

Even before Mark discovered punk, he had been interested in playing music.
Mark, "We had a band at school called Magnum Force. We played old rock music at school discos. We only played easy songs as I've never been much good at playing guitar."
Josef, the group's final drummer, "Up until late 1976, remember, the nucleus of the band that became The Mob still played Status Quo covers under the name 'Magnum Force'. The first real influence upon Mark was the art school decadence and dynamism of The Clash and their ilk. The second was Here & Now. Neither of us ever forgot those early Clash records..."

Mark, "I didn't like our early music much but it was of a time. And it's hard to see now but 1976 was a long way from '77 and by '78 there were millions of so-called punks.(To my mind this early music of ours sounds crap now) but It was still somehow radical back then."

With punk changing Mark's musical interests overnight, the times were also affecting his political outlook.

Mark, "As with punk, radical politics were the only politics that ever interested me – as soon as I was aware of politics. I lived in Canada when I was young and was very aware of the Patty Hearst kidnapping, Black Power at the Olympics and the kidnappings in Quebec in the '70s. As I'm writing, people are massed in Genoa on the TV and the world is taking notice. My favorite band at the time of early punk was The Clash. I think the same would be true of Josef and Curtis although Curtis probably favored The Damned. We would get backstage at Clash gigs and chat with the band members. I was gutted when I realized they'd sold us all up the river in "Whiteman In Hammersmith Palais". I remember listening to it over and over again. "Stay Free" was an anthem to the youth in Yeovil, Weymouth where we hanged at the time."

With bass player Curtis and drummer Graham Fallows, Mark formed the Mob playing an anarchic form of punk completely autonomous to what was happening in London. A punk band with a unique and personal perspective, the Mob drew from local and outside influences. But like the most common story in British punk, they were largely driven to escape for boredom of daily life.

Mark, "The West Country is a totally tedious place to live when you're young and boredom breeds bands. I remember the Buzzcocks singing 'Boredom' and I thought, 'you've no idea – you live in Manchester.'"

More open to different ideas, the Mob were less antagonistic towards the hippies. A local performance from Here & Now proved to be something of an epiphany.
Mark, ""When we were doing our "trying to blag a gig job" we met up with Here & Now who were playing in Yeovil. We found we shared a lot of ideals with these people. They were doing tours, playing for nothings and passing the hat round after to get the money to get to the next gig. We tagged along and followed them to Holland where we indulged heavily in the "relaxed" atmosphere. If you listen to Gavin's synthesizer or Steffi playing guitar you could hear so much of what today would be called "dance" music. They were way ahead of our times – we all were to some extent. We're talking about at time where you would be beaten up in Yeovil for not wearing flairs and having short hair. This was all a brave new world to me."

In general, it seems that the "Never Trust A Hippie" vibe was more Sex Pistols agit-prop than the reality of the times.

Mark, "I think when people talk of conflict between punks and hippies it was always more to do with student Genesis fans etc. Funny enough, these days I'm referred to as "Hippy Mark" by my Gypsy acquaintances. They mean it condescendingly but it amuses me to no end. In this country hippy has come to represent a wild spirit that lives in a bus and is at war with society (although the truth is probably saddeningly different).

"We called the album "Let The Tribe Increase" to reflect all this It was somewhat what I had in mind – but I'm not sure the reality lives up to the dream although it's fair to say that it does for a great many people.
"I think that punks mixing with hippies was usually ok – we both wanted to change the world. We introduced hippie children to punk rock at free festivals. They would all dive on the stage and pogo along while the shocked hippies stood and watched. I like to think we appealed to the disaffected of whatever persuasion. We used to have hellish trouble at gigs in Somerset in the early days but that was mostly with bikers."

Josef, "…Here & Now were far more radical and influential than any of the bands who came onto the scene through Crass Records. If it hadn't been for them, The Mob would probably never have left Somerset, and almost certainly wouldn't have followed the Anarchist line."
Though not a direct connection to Stonehenge as with Crass, the Free Fest scene was both a vivid childhood memory for Mark as well as an inspiration.

Mark, "When I was at school, we had a day trip to London and we drove past what must have been about 500 hippies camped by Stonehenge. I don't know what it was but I thought it was fucking fantastic – it was like a scene of outright "fuck you" defiance and celebration all at once. As soon as I was old enough to go out without my Mum, we would go to the festival and spend a week or a month towards the end of it camped out by Stonehenge. The last year of the festival, there were 30,000 of us for a month – un-policed and getting on fine – in my mind it was proof that we could govern ourselves. And the government seen it too – and they smashed it to pieces and replaced it with heroin."

At this point, at the end of the '70s, DIY was a staple in the punk scene with self-published fanzines, indie labels and bands working without managers. In the country, it was set free to manifest itself in different ways. For the Mob, they were lucky enough to have made friends with Here & Now and gained access to their touring resources.

Joining Here & Now for a series of free tours, as Alternative TV had done previously, the Mob were able to develop their sound quickly putting together a set. It also gave them the chance to play abroad for the first time. Many of these early versions of their songs appeared in numerous cassette compilations sold at the performances through Here and Now.

Josef, "Seekers of unreleased Mob songs might look out for 'Weird Tales', a compilation of bands from the tours, which features 4 tracks from the band's tour in Holland with Here & Now. 'Youth', 'Crying Again', 'Never Really Cared' and 'Frustration'. The latter written and sung by Graham."

These free festivals were a testament to the groups adherence to the community's cooperative vibe. Money and musical career were not part of the picture.

Mark, "We just played when we could and where we could. We were never driven to be big stars."
This friendship with Here & Now would also bring them together with other likeminded punk bands like the Androids of Mu and Zounds. Eventually these support acts found themselves together on tour organizing their own free shows under the title Weird Tales.

Mark, "Weird Tales was like a tour of Here & Now support bands. Grant was along for the ride. It was organized by JB a legend of the Latimer Road squatting scene and the Acklam Hall in Portobello. We met up with lots of other like-minded people whilst on this tour and I think it's where Zounds met Crass. It was interesting how Zounds underwent a transition from hippy "guitar solo" band to punk band overnight under Crass' guidance. It always amuses me when people say about Zounds being a punk band. Although they were fundamentally the same songs, their entire set was "punked up" to go with the new image (Not that this matters of course)."

Josef, "Just before I joined Zounds, they were touring with The Mob and The Androids of Mu in an old bus. The tours were known as The Weird Tales, and the idea was that all the shows were free, and a collection was taken. Needless to say it was doomed to failure, as your average UK anarcho would rather spend money on cider.... The bands had all been support acts for Here & Now, who had started the whole thing up. One night they got a puncture somewhere out in Essex, and entirely by accident, some of Crass happened by and fixed it for them. They liked what the bands were doing and invited Zounds, and subsequently The Mob, to record for them."

The tours weren't without incident.

Josef, "Actually their was some enmity between Zounds and The Mob, stemming from the 'Weird Tales' tours. Zounds more mature rational perception of anarchism and politics didn't mix well with The Mob's 'vivid but vague' approach."

'Vivid but vague' was certainly an accurate way to describe any overreaching ideology for the group.
Mark in Kill Your Pet Puppy fanzine, "I'd like to see a society built on trust, where everyone trusted everyone else until they couldn't be trusted anymore, then carried on trusting them anyway. Eventually this would instill enough trust into people so they could give it back. I can't do it myself yet. I'd like to. If this is anarchy we're anarchists."

After the free tours, the group was somewhat in the mode of DIY and by 1980 decided to do a record on their own. Rather than send off demo tapes to established record labels, the started their own label.

Mark, "I never had the slightest interest in mainstream success. It would be the easiest thing in the world to write popular songs with catchy tunes. But that's no interest to me. Here & Now enjoyed small success probably along the same lines as ourselves. Like I said before, we were before out time."

All The Madmen was the Mob's label, though originally a fanzine and a way to release the super obscure "England's Glory" 7" by the Review. Financing the initial operation was someone named Captain Max. Josef, "No history of The Mob should omit Captain Max. Max was Mark's friend and ally throughout, and as far as I know is with him still. 96 Tapes released a cassette of Captain Max and the Flying Pigs, which was Me, Curtis , and any others who felt like it, with Max singing piss-take covers of old rock and roll songs.

"He also traveled as roadie for Zounds to Europe, and is a far more prominent figure in the Mob's personal legend than me - I think he put up the money for Youth/Crying Again. He was there all along. I was just the drummer for the last couple of years."
Mark, "We borrowed the money off Max. There were loads of us that hung around at Geoff's house, 20 Larkhill Rd in Yeovil. We made a fanzine "All The Madmen" there was a group of about 20 of us that loosely did everything together. Max was the only one who had a job. He kept us all in beer and drugs."

Their rawest studio recording, "Crying Again/Youth" 7" sounds something like a really well done demo. The whole thing was recorded and mixed inexpensively through their Here & Now connections.

Mark, "We recorded the single with Grant Showbiz from Here & Now. He later worked with the Fall and the Smiths. I don't recall a lot about it to be honest."
Josef, "I wasn't around then, so I can't really say much about that. I think they made 500, but it was pretty dreadful. The best thing about it is Graham Fallows, the original drummer. He was absolutely the best - he started playing when he was about six. Listen to the way he plays 'Witch Hunt'. I always hated trying to play that song, because without him it just sounded limp-wristed."

Not nearly as dire as Josef makes it out to be, the two songs capture a lot of the elements that would be key to the Mob's sound. "Crying Again" is both an emotive personal song as well as a memorably catchy punk song.

Time spins around
The wall closes in
I think of the places I used to know
And I'm crying again

"Youth" is a quirky slower track with something of a dub rhythm. The creative drum work colors the repetitive bass line. The descriptive lyrics are sung somewhere between anger and disgust.

He's disgusted
Demented
Disillusioned
Deranged
Mixed up
Frustrated
Youth

Mark, "This was very early days and "Youth" was our big number live in Yeovil. John Peel started playing it on Radio 1 at night. But he preferred "Crying Again" so that got taken on as the A side by most people. I don't like either of them much."

Using the little resources they had, they were able to sort out just one pressing of 500 copies.
Mark, "We released it on our own 'cos that was the thing to do – it was what everyone was doing – you could put it out yourself for about 500 pounds."
The 7" was also the beginning of their working with local artist Wilf who would do the rest of their cover art.

Mark, "Wilf hung around on the fringe of the Yeovil scene. He was a brilliant artist and I'd love to know how he's getting on. I have a couple of watercolors that he did for "Let The Tribe Increase" that were never used."

Josef, "As for the artwork, that was all done by a chap from Yeovil called Wilf. Most of the faces he drew are fairly accurate portraits of people from the town that he knew, and his specialty was accurate drawings of helicopters, which constitute the local industry at Westland's in Yeovilton."

While there wasn't an anarcho scene in their area at the time, they did find gigs with other local punk bands.

Mark, "The time we spent in Yeovil was previous to the anarcho scene. The bands we were around then were Bikini Mutants and Steve Rudalls Weymouth based Dead Popstars."
But the London anarcho scene was still influential.

Mark, "We listened to a little bit of Crass but more so the Poison Girls. I was attracted by their politics much more than their music."
The Mob quickly followed up "Crying Again" with "Witch Hunt" which would be one of their defining songs.

Mark, "We released "Witch Hunt" when we were still in Yeovil. It took months for us to raise the money to release it. I got in my girlfriend's Dad's car to get a lift home one night and it was on the radio. There were hundreds of minor classic songs released on obscure labels that never really got heard as much as they deserved. "Witch Hunt" was right up there with them."

Not a hardcore song at all, not a normal garage band sound, it's hard to exactly pinpoint what the Mob sound like especially at this stage. While it's not at all your usual rock structure, it's somehow catchy as hell.

"Witch Hunt" is also the first song from the Mob to really create the eerie atmosphere that has made them so fascinating to the goth crowd. While possible to find a political context to the song, it certainly can stand alone as evocative.

Stubbing out progress where seeds are sown
Killing off anything that's not quite known
Sitting around in a nice safe home
Waiting for the witch hunt

By the time the record finally went out of print, they had gone through many pressings with foldout as well as glued sleeves.

Now wanting to find more likeminded people, Mark and Curtis decided to relocate to London.
Mark, "Me and Curtis were keen to spend more time with like-minded people which inevitably led us to London. I'd fell for a girl that lived in London and didn't go back to Yeovil very often."

Said Mark, to Tony of  Kill Your Pet Puppy fanzine, "(We) have drifted further apart through having more opportunity to develop our own individual things. In the sticks you're tied together through isolation, in London you can spread out much more… Being with people of similar belief most of the time makes it easier to cope with things like loneliness, insecurity or these feelings like you think you're the only person for miles around who doesn't believe in the state, the police, fighting and football; which is how it was in Somerset."

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