How many times have you clicked on a screaming headline. "DISGRUNTLED
NUTCASE KILLS 8 WITH RUSTY NAIL GUN." only to find there is absolutely
NO indication of where it happened? this happens in my
local newspaper on the "News from all over" page sometimes when it
picks up "weird and grisly" newswire stories with the name of the TOWN
but not the STATE or in some cases COUNTRY.
DISPUTED TERRITORY. or whatever. Sometimes the only clue is the
language. such as when the jealous boyfriend ran over his "mate." or
when the suspect was last seen wearing a fez. The fine print in the
URL sometimes holds a clue such as " .au " But how am I to know next
time a gun nut goes barricade in "Springfield." or
"Gardner" that it's safe to go antiquing? And if I don't know what
country it's in. how can I fill in the visual details? In what kind
of torn. blood-stained clothes do I picture the victim? do I picture Hercule Poirot. square-jawed Mountie.
local paper is posted in a hurry.

so the first most people knew of
it was when their private mail servers stopped working.
So I've set in train the change to Demon. which will be a fiver a
month cheaper and require no dynamic DNS (static IP). Experience
shows that this should result in more reliable service.
so old
mail addresses may no longer work. Apologies.


I find the frogs ok with the benoit whathisname drivers. although thats
using a pentium 200 box (hardly dual processor) so I havent had that
difficulty.

I kicked demon ino to touch in 1995. I still get the odd phone call
about there their annual subscription is.
I've been working with a Norwagian business partner (
don't tell the girlfriend! which reallly confuses you if you have a limited grasp of
the local language. and are trying toset the server up from the
Netherlands at the time (:

Its called Trackem. It is all the Nets best free people finding.
information gathering. and addressing resources in one spot. I use it
routinely.
KeyWords: Find people.

My name is Taylor (as the overly elaborate footer might indicate) and I
have been on a noble quest to find my long-lost friends ever since about
two months after High-School grad. It wasn't too easy a time. I moved
from Lahr to Geilenkirchen two days after grad and in the flurry of
activity that ensued (this was the before last year Lahr was open. the
last year of L.S.S.) my friends also moved. scattering across the
country. leaving me in the dust.
I can't help but feel like a jerk. since I was never a very good corres-
pondant. but I did try writing to two of my closest friends but one had
moved (no forwarding address). it seems. The people I do meet. I don't have anything in common with them anyway. (N.B. Im not
depressed. just slightly melancholic.)
I guess what I can do is list the people I am looking for. and
if anyone out there can help me. Babette Santos -- Last thing I heard. she was in Kingston. but I wrote
to her a couple years back and no response. No phone number either.
Her dad's name is Rigoberto. Michael Pilling -- Last thing I heard. but I've
looked and I haven't found him. I'm not sure he has the same last
name as his dad. Ethan Osland -- His mother was a teacher at L.S.S. known as Mrs.
Harrison. He moved to Winnipeg and eventually B.C.. his dad was a percussionist for Fred
Penner and organized the Winnipeg Folk festival. His brother. Glenn Vergie -- The resident track star. he went to Bowling Green
University in the States for a year and ended up returning to
Alberta. Boy did he have a way with the ladies! (chuckles all around)
There are plenty more. but these are the ones that come to mind. If you
know where any of these people might be (or if you are one of these
people). please e-mail me. If you are also looking for someone from
this period. I know where the following people are:
Jason Anderson (without a "Y"... inside joke)
Shawna Boughton (I know where her parents are...)
Sebastien Cormier (Queens U. Masters of Physics)

Need help finding someone? I'll tell you this. I CAN'T find ANYONE.
ANYTIME. That's right. I CAN'T. No one can. Plain and simple. But I do
find a very large percentage. I know that you're using this message board
because it's free. Nothing wrong with that. Sometimes the free searches work.
unfortunately most of the time they don't. When I see a request for someone
that is/was in Texas. I usually do a quick lookup of that person through Texas
DMV. Sixty percent of the time there is a record for them. I have access to
many Texas databases. and can find Texans rather inexpensively. Of course I
can find people in other states as well. but it costs me a bit more (translated
to....costs you a bit more too). So go ahead and give the free sites a shot.
Hopefully you will be lucky and get a hit. If not. consider calling a local
PI. I say local. because they will generally be cheaper than someone in
another state. Most PI's have more complete databases for their own state.
Sometimes locates can be made for as little as $10-15 dollars. Doesn't hurt to
ask. Just take a moment to gather all the information you have on that person.
Try to find any of this info on your person:
Full Name.
Date of birth.
SS#
Are they collecting SS Benifits?
Any and all old addresses.
Any and all old phone numbers.
Any and all old pager/cellphone numbers.
Relatives/family names.
Their old addresses.
Vehicle ownership.
Property ownership.
Professional licenses.
Do they have a criminal record?
Have they ever sued/been sued?
Have they ever voted?
Do they hunt/fish?
Do they owe money?
What organizations do they/did they belong to?
What magazines did they/do they subscribe to?
What are their hobbies?
Ever been in the military?
Where is their family? The easiest way to find someone is to ask someone who
knows! Call directory assistance and ask for that person by name. Then ask how many
people are listed with just that first initial. Also ask for a business
listing in that person's name. Often times people have unlisted phone numbers.
yet will list their business as "John Doe's Carpet Cleaning".
You may want to try the nationwide Directory Assistance also. I think they are
something like 10-10-2000 or something like that.
Those are some of the things you should look for before going to an
investigator. It may not seem important to you. but for the investigator it
may be the one solid lead that finds your friend.
One word of caution. If you do not have good intentions towards the person you
are looking for. please do not waste the time of a PI. A good PI will not
release the location of that person to you until that person says that it is
OK. Too many PI's have been burned by stalkers. and just plain wack-o's.
if you want to contact a PI or searcher. feel free to ask their
qualifications. They should be licensed in the state in which they do business
and carry liability insurance. Call the Better Busines Bureau to see if they
have any complaints lodged against them. Call the PI and ask the number to
their Licensing Board. Call the Board and make sure the PI has a valid license
and has no complaints lodged against him or his company. There are just as
many unscrupulous PI's as there are in other professions. Protect yourself and
your cash. Don't be surprised if the PI asks for a retainer. 99% of them
will. We have learned that many times people "forget" to pay once they have
their info. There are just as many unscrupulous people as there are....well.
you get the point. We have to protect our cash also. There aren't too many
places left in the world where you can get the merchandise and tell them to
"bill you".
Now if we can't find your person. don't give up. Ask for a full report of all
the searches done for you. This way if you decide to try again later. you will
not duplicate certain searches. Sometimes just waiting a month or two will be
long enough for your friend to surface.
Also you can write to all the old addresses that you've found for your SUBJECT.
He/She may not be there anymore. but may have left a forwarding address. It
could also be a relative or friend who lives there now. First write a letter
addressed to the SUBJECT and on the lower left hand corner of the envelope
write. Address Service Requested". That way. if there is a
forwarding address on file. the post office will return your letter to you with
the new address. If your letter comes back to you saying "no longer there" or
something to that effect. send it back addressed to "(subject's name) OR
CURRENT RESIDENT". That way. hopefully they will not feel bad about opening
your letter and perhaps will have some information for you.
Write a letter to your subject. expressing why you need to contact them. and
put your return address and contact info in it. Make this a humanitarian
reason. Put the letter in an envelope. BUT DO NOT SEAL OR
ADDRESS IT! Then place that unsealed envelope inside of a bigger envelope.
Write a letter to the following agency asking them to forward your letter to
your subject for humanitarian reasons. They will read your letter so make sure
you make it sound good. You can do this for each of the following agencies.
They will forward your letter if they feel your reasons are justified.
HOWEVER. they will not tell you the new address. or if they have sent it. This
is a longshot. but it often works. Takes a month or so.
They need your subject's full name and date of birth. Also include the SS# if
you have it. If your subject is receiving benefits or if they are in the
records you have a good chance.
Internal Revenue Service
Disclosure Office. ALSO just for kicks. send a letter to the Department of motor vehicles for the
state you think they may hold a license. Some states will forward a letter to
the person for a small fee of like $5. Make sure in your letter you state that
you are willing to pay any fees. Might not hurt to pick up the phone book and
call them first.
I hope that you find that special person that you are looking for. If you have
any questions feel free to drop me a line. If I can't help you. I am certain I
can send you to someone who can.
Scott Baldwin
Angel Investigations.

I was wondering whether there are any suitable locations for those 'starting
out' so to speak. Any information would be greatly
appreciated.
Heck. --
Both of my parents are Plains Elk.
Hylas.
(Tickler of Spoons and Lord High Dishwasher of St.
Goldihaawns rest home for the pathologically
improbable)

Have any of y'all who are in a position to recommend people for a calling in
an auxiliary ever recommended yourself? recommending yourself to teach a sunday school class as Sunday
School president? Or recommending yourself to teach a primary class when a
member of the primary presidency?
Voluntarism is good if and only if no one is available. Better or
worse is not the question. Remember. we aren't raising cows. (Anyone
remember whose talk I am referring to? have you prayed about it? If you feel strongly moved and
are fairly confident Who it is that moves you. consult privately with
the rest of the presidency. is what I would suggest.

When I was a High Priest Group Leader all the Group leaders in the Stake
were
ask to recommend names of people to work in the Family History Library.
The
Stake had just divided and we needed people staff a new Library. It was
hard
to find people who wanted to work there. When I knew I was going to be
released
but before the actual release I told the Stake President I would like to
work
in the Family History Library. Then when I met with the Stake President
to
be released he gave me the call to work in the Library. Of course in my
Patriartical Blessing I was told to never turn down an opportunity to do
work
for the dead so it wasn't all my idea.
This is slightly different than what you are talking about since I was
recommending
myself for my next calling not something about a current calling. I
don't think it
is out of line but it is hard to be objective about yourself. Just
because you
recommend something doesn't mean it will happen. It's just an idea and
some idea's
are good and some are not.

Yes I did 2 years ago. As Sunday School President at the time I recommended
myself as Gospel Doctrine Teacher. The Bishopric agreed and I am still
teaching the class. I was released as President a couple of months ago. i
love the teaching calling.

I was Sunday School President once. and we needed a new Gospel Doctrine
teacher. The bishop asked for my recommendations. I went home and mulled it
over. and the name that came popping up was mine. So. I recommended myself. He
said he would consider the matter as he considered any such recommendation. A
week later her called me into his office and released me as SS Pres. and called
me to be the new Gospel Doctrine Teacher.

is surprising success.



I have already tried sending a reply to the group a few days ago but it has
not shown up on the system. I am new & that was my first attempt so perhaps
I did something wrong. Yes I recommended myself as Gospel Doctrine Teacher
when I was Sunday School President 2 years ago. The Bishopric agreed as they
had the same thought. I am still there now but was released as Pres a couple
of months ago.

I found that an old classmate died last week of AIDS and I wish to attend
the memorial. I have no information. He may have lived in the Bay area.
Any way of finding out about memorials to be held? Search function thru
the Internet.

Have any of y'all who are in a position to recommend people for a calling in
an auxiliary ever recommended yourself? recommending yourself to teach a sunday school class as Sunday
School president? Or recommending yourself to teach a primary class when a
member of the primary presidency?
Voluntarism is good if and only if no one is available. Better or
worse is not the question. Remember. we aren't raising cows. (Anyone
remember whose talk I am referring to? have you prayed about it? If you feel strongly moved and
are fairly confident Who it is that moves you. consult privately with
the rest of the presidency. is what I would suggest.

When I was a High Priest Group Leader all the Group leaders in the Stake
were
ask to recommend names of people to work in the Family History Library.
The
Stake had just divided and we needed people staff a new Library. It was
hard
to find people who wanted to work there. When I knew I was going to be
released
but before the actual release I told the Stake President I would like to
work
in the Family History Library. Then when I met with the Stake President
to
be released he gave me the call to work in the Library. Of course in my
Patriartical Blessing I was told to never turn down an opportunity to do
work
for the dead so it wasn't all my idea.
This is slightly different than what you are talking about since I was
recommending
myself for my next calling not something about a current calling. I
don't think it
is out of line but it is hard to be objective about yourself. Just
because you
recommend something doesn't mean it will happen. It's just an idea and
some idea's
are good and some are not.

Yes I did 2 years ago. As Sunday School President at the time I recommended
myself as Gospel Doctrine Teacher. The Bishopric agreed and I am still
teaching the class. I was released as President a couple of months ago. i
love the teaching calling.

I was Sunday School President once. and we needed a new Gospel Doctrine
teacher. The bishop asked for my recommendations. I went home and mulled it
over. and the name that came popping up was mine. So. I recommended myself. He
said he would consider the matter as he considered any such recommendation. A
week later her called me into his office and released me as SS Pres. and called
me to be the new Gospel Doctrine Teacher.

is surprising success.



I have already tried sending a reply to the group a few days ago but it has
not shown up on the system. I am new & that was my first attempt so perhaps
I did something wrong. Yes I recommended myself as Gospel Doctrine Teacher
when I was Sunday School President 2 years ago. The Bishopric agreed as they
had the same thought. I am still there now but was released as Pres a couple
of months ago.

where is everyone from. and do you see many scooters on the road where
you live? are there any scooter clubs around you aswell? and
i'm about to take my permit test. so hopefully i'll be riding soon.

I'm in Sacramento. CA. I have the Majesty 400. There are scooters here. but
this area is big with Bikers & Cruisers.

S. Florida here (Jensen Beach). Bunch of red necks in pick up trucks
with harley stickers on 'em. And harleys period. A few scoots around.
Farther south (Palm Beach. Miami) it is better (scooter wise-not crime
wise).
When I first got my Malaguti phantom 50 (3 years ago) and rode it
around. you'd think my alien space ship was parked around the corner. It
has gotten better and I think I might have helped that. I see burgmans.
elites and reflex's and some helix's . But very few Aprilla or Vespa
(closest vespa dealer is 40 miles away).
A lot of though guy syndrome still exists here in redneckville
(translation = Harley riders posing). I have a lot of clients in black
neighborhoods. They like scooters. but cluelessly buy mostly Chinese.
I guess someone is keeping them in business. I try to warn them
though.....

where i live in ky. i have seen a few scooters. i've seen a couple
silverwings. and a couple of helixs. but i haven't seen any kymos yet.
oh yea and i've seen a reflex aswell. it seems to be growing slowly
here.
Scooter meetup keeps bugging me to come . but its 45 minutes each way and
they insist on Monday evenings a 6:00 PM. and by the time the meeting
breakes up its dark and I hate riding fast arteriels at night. Seattle has pretty good sized ralleys on weekends. and I go to those
occcasionally. but I'm too old for that crowd really.
Houston gives new meaning to urban sprawl! I'm 12 miles west of the downtown
area and there are probably half a million people who live west of me 3-4
miles north and south of I-10. the only east-west freeway for miles and
miles! Texas is widening I-10 from a total of 6 lanes to 24 lanes in my area
right now! That is not counting the other vectors of the compass. Getting
anywhere usually entails getting on the FEW freeways which pretty much
precludes scooters. The 65 MPH speed limit is normally ignored and 80 MPH
typical on the weekend. The majority of the time I-10 is a parking lot. In
any case. I don't want to get on any of the freeways with a scooter of any
horse power.
The majority of scooters I see are in the older. more community based parts
of Houston within 3-4 miles of downtown. and that is where you find the
scooter shops. Well. Suzuki's and Yamahas. I see a few
scooters in my area but not often. There may be clubs too for all I know.
but I'm not much of a joiner so that is not important to me.
Due to summer high temperatures and debilitating humidity. spring and late
fall are the riding seasons here and there are a lot of motorcycle riders
out right now. They are mostly Harley's and speed racers.
Most of the Harley riders around here are perfect examples of the triumph of
attitude over substance. It is amusing to see the urban yuppies and
non-yuppies dressed in Sonny Berger Hell's Angel Bad Ass chic. The last 20 years I've owned larger bikes and I'm selling my Honda ST1100
sport tourer to get a scooter. My touring days ended with back surgery and
getting on a 730 pound bike to run to the grocery is a little absurd. I rode
a friend's Vespa back at University and would love to get a Vespa GT or even
a Piaggio BV200. but the dealership is a side office in a Ferrari/Maserati
dealership and is obviously a very low priority sideline operation. Plus.
the cost of a Vespa seems on a scale with the cars; $5. The real "scooter" shop carries Kymco. and several other lines all crammed into an old service station with
the service bays for wrenching. It exudes atmosphere. and character unlike
what you see in the Japanese shops. Until I saw several Kymco models there.
I had pretty much ruled them out on the basis of the pictures on Kymco's web
site. The real things are pretty darned nice looking and I like what I'm
hearing about their quality! Kymco needs to redo their picture spreads.
I like the idea of the Chetak with its Vespa look. I even like its India
origins. I saw a bunch of Bajaj scooters in Indonesia. and
Malaysia. I thought Bajaj was a Vespa model name for a long time! The loads
they could carry were astonishing.
something with larger wheels and horses will also allow me to get
into the country once in a while. And then there is the question of storage.
Can I put the gallon of milk under the seat? Burgman and Majesty. I'm shying away from Aprillia right
now due to their uncertain future. And though the Derbi would give me
Piaggio quality at a lower price. they just aren't available because their
distributorship is still in turmoil.

Japan. Lots of scooters here. 99% are Japanese made. Few Chinese and
Taiwanese imports. The Chinese scoots are known to be crap and Japanese
people are wary of Taiwanese goods. even though KYMCO makes great
scooters.
There are plenty of scooter clubs but you must remember that scooters
are considered to be practical vehicles used mostly for getting to work
or school. There is no "stigma" or "allure" to scootering here. They
are just a means of transportation or pizza or ramen delivery.
Some aficionados buy Italian scooters. but these are heavily marked-up.
Tokyo has lots of maxi-scooters that you won't see in other parts of
the country. Come to think of it. only in Tokyo will you find people
who self-conciously ride scooters as a "lifestyle statement".


I live in Melbourne. Australia.
There is a resurgence of scooters over here. mainly the
Korean/Taiwanese variety as cheap commuters. but a lot of newly
restored Vespas and Lammies as well as new ones.
I bought a new Vespa PX200 which are still available here for AUD$6300
on road. while most Vespa sales are the GT and ET series.
The club scene is a bit weak. I am a member of the Melbourne Scooter
Connection. which is open to all scooter riders and runs informal runs
and meets. There is also a Vintage Italian Scooter Club. but this is
only open to pre 1977 scooters.
Scooter riding is great in Melbourne. the traffic congested. the
weathers usually mild with light to medium rain and lots of varied
trips to be had nearby. The other great plus is that a motorcycle can
legally park on the footpath. so going out is a breeze.