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Status: Single
City: New York
State: NEW YORK
Country: US
Signup Date: 3/16/2005
Monday, September 29, 2008 

i'm writing this as a sort-of open letter to the people at emi.
i'm signed to mute records(for the last 15 years, actually), and as mute is owned
by emi that makes me an emi artist.
as some of you might know, the record business is falling apart.
revenues are down, cd sales are plummeting, people are losing their jobs, etc.
things at the record companies, especially the major labels, aren't looking so good.
one bright spot in this dismal retail firmament is the sale of music on-line through
portals like i-tunes.
the dance music equivalent of i-tunes is a site called beatport.
beatport, and other similar sites, enables you to preview dance tracks and then, if you like, buy them.
the average cost for a track on beatport is twice or three times the cost of a track on i-tunes(which
makes sense, as the tracks are a lot longer).
emi happily allow their music to be sold on i-tunes, but they don't allow their(and, by extension, my)music
to be sold on portals like beatport.
for over a year now i've been asking people at emi why they won't allow their electronic
dance music to be sold on beatport and i still haven't received a good answer.
one might think that in a time of rapidly dwindling revenues that a viable
and proven outlet like beatport might be greeted ecstatically at emi and the major labels.
but no.
very simply, i don't know why emi won't allow their(and my) dance tracks to be sold on beatport(for
an average cost of around $2.00 per track), but i do know that by not allowing their
electronic dance music to be sold on beatport that emi have denied themselves
very considerable revenue and have limited the audience for their electronic
dance artists(not to mention remixes done for their non-electronic dance artists, like
radiohead and coldplay).
many dj's live in urban areas with great indie-dance shops, and many dj's buy vinyl
and cd's on-line from great indie-dance shops, but there are thousands and thousands
of dj's who pretty much only buy their music from sites like beatport.
and with emi refusing to allow beatport(and similar sites)to sell their music it basically
means that tens of thousands of dj's around the world don't have access to any of
the dance records being released by mute and emi artists.
so this is my letter to anyone at emi who might be reading: by not allowing your music to be
sold on sites like beatport you are losing money daily and seriously compromising the careers
of your electronic artists(like, for example, the chemical brothers, me, massive attack, etc).
i can't see why you(the people at emi)wouldn't remedy this immediately and allow
people to buy your records on beatport and similar sites.
thanks
moby

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Knut Meyn

 
understand the situation and could add; given the diversified and somewhat dark market outlook it is strange the record companies (still?) do not realize that plurality is one key to theirs.. and artists success. which means being where there's any market, following trends, be flexible, adaptable, able to handle change. or the opposite reaction of what you have got (this far).

i do not know the reason for theirs or others unwillingness to change but would not be surprised to learn there could be exclusive agreements between companies. however, in the long run, strategies must adapt to demand, where availability is key.
 
Posted by Knut Meyn on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 9:54 AM
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[+ROSS]

 
their unwillingness to change is because these upper echelon execs that make big decisions like that own billions of dollars of stock in the companies that make the CDs themselves, so its like they feel they can't financially commit to a non-physical type of sale. they either are unable or unwilling to understand that most people that buy new music (kids or parents of kids) don't want the hassle of going out and buying the music when they can hear it, read about it, blog about it, and experience it and re-experience it all online. the old heads dont get that, and frankly i'm halfway there myself. i like buying the physical medium, the album; the art, liner notes, lyrics, who-played-what-instrument, the thank yous... all of it. i love it!
this keeps seeming like an artist v. record companies debate, and no doubt on the day-to-day level it is... but it is becoming what it really should be, the people and the artists v. the record companies, which is why no one has really bought an album this year (that and a severely limited quantity of good music in the mainstream). the people and the artists are turning it ont he record company and saying "stop charging us 20 bucks a cd when i can just get the one song i like for a dollar," or two or three with beatport or snocap or whatever...
i look forward to music sold on memory sticks or something... the middle ground between straight download and buying a cd that people will just rip anyway.
that's what i see in the future.
thanks for letting me share.
 
Posted by [+ROSS] on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 - 8:02 AM
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Rachelle LaDelle' Geisheker
Rachelle Geisheker

 
Contracts can always be changed, especially after such tragic events as what our economy is currently going through, so I don't see how any exclusive agreements cannot be re-arranged to be more lucrative for sales and revenue, cost effective and convenient for both the music artists and their fans.

Mo My Luv,

This makes me so sad to read......I hope that someone at EMI will indeed read this and at least look into the possibility of allowing your music and the other artists signed to them to sell music on beatports. I cannot even imagine the frustration and stress this must be to you. This econmical mess we are in is frightening indeed. Really, they should be contemplating such a change on their own, they shouldn't have to have your kick in the butt to get the ball rolling here, however, since they seem to be to hard headed on the issue to back down and change the error of their ways, 'Thank God You Are Opening Your Mouth and trying to help them to be wise and make such an important change.' All of the other artists signed under them will be so grateful and proud I'm sure once they hear you did this.

I'm so proud of you and I pray that things will change for the better!!!!

I Love You With All My Heart Richard,

Your Ballerina Rachelle
xxxx
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Posted by Rachelle LaDelle' Geisheker on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 12:21 PM
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Dancing Angel ♥Rachelle♥
Rachelle Geisheker

 
It's a pitty you aren't with a union my love, as you could start a petition. You could have some of the other music artists under EMI that agree with you, which I assume are 'all' as who wouldn't want to be more successful with their sales?... to help in the efforts of making this well needed change or perhaps are you allowed to petition them with your current standing contract without being the member of a union? It would be a great thing. All of your fans, as well as, the other artists and their fans could sign the petition to help things move along for the better.

If you aren't allowed to petition, you could instead write a formal proposal of your idea to them love and have some of the other artists under EMI be part of that proposal too, so that it is more than one voice, because for change it usually takes more than one voice, as you are well aware I know.

I Love, Love, Love You,

Your Twinkle Toes Rachelle
xxxx
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Posted by Dancing Angel ♥Rachelle♥ on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 12:44 PM
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..:: Birth Chaos Rebirth ::..

 
Tell them I buy music on beatport. And I really hate itunes. Nothing against Apple. I just dont like the selection on there. Someones gotta wake up there at EMI and realize that theyre missing the boat on this one. Id like to give my money to more artists that I wanna hear like Moby.
 
Posted by ..:: Birth Chaos Rebirth ::.. on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 10:17 AM
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Russell

 
(in the voice of Borat) Beatport is very nice
 
Posted by Russell on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 10:44 AM
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♪♫◄Shauk►♫♪

 
I've been buying music on beatport for a little over a year now. It's a top notch site. I don't use iTunes, sorry Mobster...
 
Posted by ♪♫◄Shauk►♫♪ on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 11:17 AM
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DJ FYB

 
I am buying from few sources including iTunes and BeatPort but for specific reasons because my dance music will usually come from BeatPort. It is sure that they might have thing that if the artist is not available from one source, people will search on another one. Not just that but they probably think that having allowed to be on iTunes will close the subject because a lot of people think it is one of the biggest digital music supplier online. In fact, it is probably the case! To be an artist necessite today to be on iTunes. But depending on the style of music, other portal such as BeatPort, DJDownload, Amazon MP3 and more can be added on the list to get a better market and being in the boat. The boat is changing direction and digital music is the new direction - not only on iTunes but all over the Internet. Suppliers need to be serious and we - as artist - need to be completely confident with what the supplier will do with our music because with don't want to loose control on that. But there is many big names - such as Beatport - that has proven their credibility and more than that, their utility (if you look at the number of sales and customers). Thank you Moby to debate on this because it is extremely important to work together (EMI needs to explain now what they want to do and why they don't wants to do what seems logic to everybody). This situation will change for sure but the question is if the change will happen because of letter like the one Moby wrote or if it is something EMI will realize by themselves (and all the other big names records that seems to follow this philosophy). FYB (Montréal, Canada)
 
Posted by DJ FYB on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 11:35 AM
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Mark J.F. Iscariot

 
Moby! In order to fix the dog game, you gotta leave the kennel. The future is that musicians aren't going to live like rock stars anymore. We gotta give the albums up for free on torrents, because people are going to get it there anyway. Embrace the digital revolution; encourage fans instead to spend their money on tickets, merch, etc. The days of the rich and famous are falling behind, thank god.
 
Posted by Mark J.F. Iscariot on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 11:44 AM
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Damare

 
Amen. For years & years the record companies, movie companies, etc, have been royally screwing over the fans. (and continue to do so) Payback Be A Bitch!
 
Posted by Damare on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 2:23 PM
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. laura .

 
which rich and famous?
baseball players? oil men? wall streeters? ceo's of companies whose workers made minimum wage?
i'd rather see (good) musicians made decent money. i mean, most of the bands/musicians i like have to sell their own cd's at shows and move their own equipment. not that there's anything wrong with that, but they're probably not making much $ to live on either.
as an aside, when did musicians become 'hollywood' anyway? that's just weird
 
Posted by . laura . on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 12:18 PM
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TronMe

 
Moby, Major Labels are happy with today situation.

We also ask an authorization to add your music on TronMe player (www.tronme.com)

This is what we said:
"TronMe allows players to personally and intuitively play and loop their favorite tracks, either by use of their mouse or their webcam. The software works by the music being converted into an .IVS format. Our model and aims are not unlike those of ITunes; only we have a software player rather than a hardware player. Our product also allows buyers to have fun with and play with their music rather than just be able to listen to it. We do not alter lyrics we always use the original artist recording.

Security is our primary concern and we take it very seriously. Players who buy a track from our website pay €1 via PayPal. The track is saved on our server in an encrypted form and is only released once this payment has been confirmed and verified. Once a track has been paid for it is available for that buyer to use within TronMe. The software (www.TronMe.com) will check with our server before each play of the song to ensure that the computer has the right to use it and so it is impossible for a track to be emailed to anyone else free of charge. Our software is available for free and our customers buy tracks from us for many reasons; they can listen to it whilst chatting live on msn or Skype, they can remix it and broadcast it live to a friend - we offer more ways for people to use and enjoy their music than anyone else.

We got a refusal hopefully not from all Majors so we had to explain this:

"We are sorry to learn of your decision not to join us at TronMe and not to allow us to convert your tracks into IVS format. This decision means that any TronMe users who wish to remix your music will do so without the artist and writer receiving any payment which we think is a shame.

For those tracks for which permission has been given, the MCPS payments are made from the revenue produced by the sale of the track from the TronMe website. Any song that is in IVS format must be bought before it can be used with the software, the player will not use an mp3 version of a song that is available in .IVS. TronMe allows people to enjoy their favorite music in a totally new way and every time a new version of a song is posted it is, in effect, an advert for the artist that originally performed it. It’s a win win situation with the artist keeping overall control of the track, the fans enjoying remixing the music and everyone getting the money they are entitled to.

However, if permission is not given, then the TronMe software will play alongside a normal, downloaded mp3 version of the original track. No doubt many of these songs will already be on the computer of the user others will, not doubt, be downloaded from a P2P site. This really doesn’t help anyone and it means that control of the track is lost to those who wrote and performed it. We would rather this didn’t happen and that you kept control of the music by allowing us to convert it and setting the interactivity as you would like it.

We ask you to reconsider your position."

But it didn't help.

Thanks for your open letter to EMI we hope other artists will do the same.
 
Posted by TronMe on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 11:58 AM
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Neko

 
No doubt they care about revenue, but the road to change is paved with cemented structures in the established record companies. The reluctance to embrace new ways of distribution probably goes hand in hand with the reluctance to make decisions - and thus be responsible for those. I would expect that eventually they will allow your music to be sold on various sites, but only after waiting for a more than sufficient period of time monitoring the profitability of those sites. It's ironic that fans actually want to pay for music, but are basically denied doing so by the record companies, which in turn complain that people are not buying music. Go figure.
 
Posted by Neko on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 12:14 PM
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Stephan Panev

 
i am selling only on beatport and i think that the indie way of releasing tracks is now by far the best one. the music industry is dead, we as artist are now trying to get our music to as much people as we can. i have denied some contracts for majors just because i think that this kind of working is dead some time ago.
 
Posted by Stephan Panev on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 12:34 PM
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weedj aka Ignasi D

 
It is better and cheap to download by emule.....
 
Posted by weedj aka Ignasi D on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 12:36 PM
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Coda Cannon

 
You know Moby,

Trying to make sense of the doings and decisions of the record industry is like trying to figure out a riddle that has no answer. Some friends did that to F- wit me. Back in the day I would proudly declare that there wasn't a riddle on earth that I couldn't figure out. I like riddles.. so one day on the way to an amusement park they decided that they would make up a riddle and see if I could figure out that the riddle had no answer. I thought that was kind of a prick thing to do because I spent the majority of the day trying to figure out this riddle that has no answer.

I say all that to say this... the music industry sucks because most of the people in the industry suck. They will cut off their noses to spite their face.. and it makes no sense at all. I read your blog and yeah playa... it makes absolutely no sense at all. You would think that since you are "Moby" that if nothing else you would have enough credibility with them to have your concerns and issues taken seriously.. but it doesn't seem to matter with them.

But whatever F-it... again you are Moby. And there are people out there, like myself, who respect and love your music, philosophy, politics, and just your overall disposition. One of the most special moments that I will treasure for the rest of my life involved My Grandmother and your music. I was really, really, extremely close to her.. and on our last car ride together I had "Play" in the cd player. She really, really liked it... she was a little old black lady.. so she really enjoyed those samples.

100 years from now you and your music will still be relevant.. but my friend, the same can't be said for the industry and idiots calling the shots in it! Just keep doing your thing.. and remember.. hahahahaha... YOU'RE MOBY! You know... one day we are gonna have to work together my man.. I think that would make for an amazing sound and collaboration!

Take it light,

coda
 
Posted by Coda Cannon on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 1:30 PM
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Cazzy

 
"The music business is a cruel shallow trench. It is a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free,And good men die like dogs.There is also a negative side.-Hunter S. Thompson "
 
Posted by Cazzy on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 2:15 PM
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Damare

 
Well you could always do what a true artist does (like myself), and offer all your music for free for anyone that wants it. Whatever evil there is in this world, money (& god), is surely the sole root of it.
 
Posted by Damare on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 2:20 PM
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Victor
Victor Guzman

 
hasn't EMI always had a history of being ass-backwards? Sex Pistols wrote a none-too-flattering song about them, as did Lynyrd Skynyrd...i can't think of any other record company with such a dubious distinction.....and being a dj myself, even though i reside in the NJ/NYC area, this effects me too.
 
Posted by Victor on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 3:06 PM
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Jesus

 
I don..t know if this open letter method might work, but something that might, and you know for sure is how fuc.. they feel when an artist gives music away and they do not see the profits at all. So now what, no excuse for them , you might have rights on your music to make stgh. like this, and you know for sure, that we have always appreciated that giveaways, if they are aware of this, and they know they reason of it, they might change their mind; I wish I was right , but it is just a thought. Bgood
 
Posted by Jesus on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 3:11 PM
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Alyzabeth Mitchell

 
It's a weird time in the music industry right now.
 
Posted by Alyzabeth Mitchell on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 3:19 PM
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Eldon B. Hamblin II
Eldon Benorr Hamblin II

 
Moby, network with artists that are currently selling on Beatport. Ask them to each write a testimonial that you can present to your record company in a meeting where you can present the importance of this matter to all the people who actually have the authority to make this change happen!
 
Posted by Eldon B. Hamblin II on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 3:27 PM
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shonda

 
Moby...for what it's worth. If I really like an artist I still always go out and buy the CD. I do it to support them for this very reason. I hope it gets resolved soon.....

Peace
 
Posted by shonda on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 5:05 PM
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Rachelle ♥Loves♥ Moby
Rachelle Geisheker

 
I buy the cd's as well. I've never downloaded albums from the internet.
 
Posted by Rachelle ♥Loves♥ Moby on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 - 5:03 AM
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Double O Roos

 
I just don't get the record company's these days. They complain about the industry going down the drain and fail to see the possible solutions right before their own eyes, given to them. Like you are brave enough to write this down on MySpace. Why don't you make it your own project then? Is there any change for you to upload all your music on your own? Even so, you can always print out all the reactions you get here and show EMI?!? Be creative, the solution lies in the problem itself. You'll know what to do!
 
Posted by Double O Roos on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 7:01 PM
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St. Joseph Starsmore Noctum The Outlaw Saint

 
Moby I've been buying music from Beatport for years. I just bought the new Thievery Corporation and Nightmares on Wax CD's from there. I always once a week do a search for you on there but with no avail. So if the EMI guy's read this let them know the fans are calling for your music on Beatport....

ps also let them know they need to sign me too. lol

Joseph Noctum
 
Posted by St. Joseph Starsmore Noctum The Outlaw Saint on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 7:32 PM
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Phoenix
Kerri West

 
I hope that labels continue to disintegrate, and that buying directly from artists (as opposed to piracy) becomes more and more popular... gotta cut out the middle man when you can. I actually wrote a blog on how much I despise labels, among other things, not too long ago.
 
Posted by Phoenix on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 8:36 PM
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DJ TRISH

 
Dear Moby
Like many things the music business is in a little slump right now but theres so much good music right now I think it will pick up.Check out some of Sara Bareillas's music and Los Loney Boys oh yeah and Celtic Thunder.There are some cool new stuff out there!
Keep the faith things will get better!
Peace and Love
Trish
 
Posted by DJ TRISH on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 - 3:48 AM
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Dj Tracy

 
I AGREE!!
I don't use iTunes...at all.
I only use Beatport.
 
Posted by Dj Tracy on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 - 6:59 PM
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Mike
Mike Walden

 
Maybe Stephen Wozniak and Guy Hands are both FREEMASONS lol if you get my drift!
You scratch my back and i'll scratch yours.........
Most other major businesses seem to work this way, hey even governments do!!!
 
Posted by Mike on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 3:20 PM
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St. Joseph Starsmore Noctum The Outlaw Saint

 
Hey Moby I had a thought on this. You have a great internet presence as well a very loyal fan base. You should put up polls on your websites, and social networking sites to gather support for this. Also you could have Beatport put a poll up for their traffic and present the numbers to emi. If they are resistant to change then the numbers will show them how much money is being left on the table by not having your music on the number one electronic music downloading site. If they still don't bite then you know they are truly rats on a sinking ship.
 
Posted by St. Joseph Starsmore Noctum The Outlaw Saint on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 3:21 PM
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Multipraktik Recordings

 
They will catch on in time, they may be too big and slow for this rapid change but they like money too much and the smell of it will force them to release their music on these shops. If not, they are simply dumb.....Cheers for this blog... 
 
Posted by Multipraktik Recordings on Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 12:14 AM
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