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Pat Condell



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City: London
Country: UK
Friday, October 31, 2008 

Category: Religion and Philosophy
Here is the text of my recent interview with the Bosnian news periodical Magazine Start BiH



Q: Is secularism in danger today and is it more dangerous to be Muslim or atheist in Great Britain today?

A: Yes, secularism is in danger, but fortunately more and more people are realising it and speaking out. The current British government panders shamelessly to religion, especially to Islam, because there are votes in it, but the British people are not as apathetic as they used to be, and many are now waking up to the real threat that religion poses to their freedom.
Britain is not a particularly dangerous country, but if you criticise Islam, whether you're Muslim, atheist, Christian or anything else, you'll be inundated with death threats.

Q: Religious leaders in Bosnia present our type of Islam as a best possible type of Islam for Europe because it is moderate and is not extreme by their opinion. How well do you know Islam in Bosnia and is there, by your opinion, type of Islam which is the best for secular society and can religion dogma and tolerance exist together at the same time?

A: I'm not familiar with Islam in Bosnia, but I think the best form of any religion is one that doesn't try to force its values and beliefs on others. Religious dogma is intolerant and unreasonable, and I believe it should be kept out of public life entirely. All religion should be kept out of schools, and women should be free to dress however they like and to be whoever they want to be without any interference from men.

Q: Few months ago we had great social discussion about religion education in kindergartens and schools and now we have it. How one atheist parent can save his child humiliation and segregation from majority of religious educated children?

A: Segregation is not the answer. Children should be educated together as equals, not segregated on the basis of their parents' prejudices. The best thing for an atheist parent would be to tell their child the truth, that there are many different religions and they all contradict each other. When a child understands this they'll be better equipped to step back and see religion for what it is.

Q: Is there a difference for you between Muslims in Iran, Saudi Arabia and Bosnia or Islam extremist or all of the Muslims are the same for you? And to be more precise is there a difference for you between any religious person?

A: I take people as I find them. Iran and Saudi Arabia are theocracies and I believe their governments are literally insane, but that's not true of all the people who live there. I'm sure if the people in those countries had a real choice things would be a lot different. I have no problem with any religious person, be they Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Jew, Sikh, Buddhist or Jedi, as long as they don't insist that their beliefs should influence my life.

Q: Here in Bosnia we have atheist minority who is afraid to publicly speak about disagreement with religious society because it would be called Islamofobic or otherwise. How can they get back their rights which they had, by the way, given up by their selves?

A: Nobody should be afraid of being called Islamophobic. It isn't a real word. It was invented by Islamists with the connivance of the guilt-ridden political left as a way of excusing unreasonable behaviour and stifling criticism of it. "Islamophobia" is a word without honour, and anyone who uses it deserves contempt.

Q: Is the fear of Islam in western countries made Christianity stronger and made secularity weaker?

A: It has made Christianity more demanding, and some Christian clergy like the Archbishop of Canterbury have spoken in favour of sharia because they believe strengthening Islam will strengthen all religion and Christianity will be stronger. But I think the opposite is happening. People are seeing through this cynicism and losing respect for the church. The Archbishop of Canterbury is now a figure of open mockery and ridicule and is seen as a man with his head in the clouds.

Q: Your well known statement is that religion is counting it's last days and that it will disappear soon. Why do you think so?

A: As I say in the video, we can't stay this stupid forever. I believe a slight evolution in human consciousness will embarrass us into dropping this nonsense, and we'll be much the better for it.

Q: Is your intent to convert religious people to atheist and if so, did you have any success?

A: My intent is to get other people's unprovable beliefs out of my life, and out of government, the law and education. I don't care what people believe as long as I don't have to keep hearing about it.

Q: Why do you want to offend Islam, as you say in one of your video when you say you are buying beer not because you like it but to offend Islam? Do you think that offense is an right answer to another offense?

A: The remark about beer was a joke. I don't set out to offend anybody, but it's inevitable that some people will be offended because religion is a sensitive subject (for reasons which escape me) and religious people have been conditioned to believe they're entitled to more respect than they are. I think being offended is a choice and nobody has any business being offended by honest opinions.

Q: Watching your video one can get feeling of you as a priest, isn't that paradoxical and do you feel like preaching or is it still just a modern stand up comedy?

A: I'm using my experience as a comedian to express some serious opinions. I don't particularly care if the videos are funny or not, so I wouldn't call it stand-up comedy. You can call it preaching if you want to, but I think I'm saying things that need to be said.

Q: If people by your opinion should not believe in god, what should they believe in?

A: People should believe whatever makes them happy, but I think belief in God is fear of death, which is absurd because death is part of life. If more people believed in themselves, and if they were allowed to believe in themselves as children, they'd have no need for God.
Ewan
Ewan Logsdon

 
Great answers, Pat!
 
Posted by Ewan on Friday, October 31, 2008 - 12:01
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Wanda

 
Bravo!
I especially like your closing answer...if we all believed in ourselves.

Imagine the possibilities that would allow for.

that just made my day! Thanks
 
Posted by Wanda on Friday, October 31, 2008 - 12:16
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Ellen

 
Pat you are simply brilliant!! Concise ---why on earth is such a simple, easy concept so hard for people to understand----if they insist---they can keep all their religion-----but stop forcing it down our throats---they don't have to be an atheist, like us, they just have to keep their nutty superstitions out of our lives!! Thanks for being so publicly vocal & risking life & limb by doing so! We adore you PAT!! You speak for so many of us!!
 
Posted by Ellen on Friday, October 31, 2008 - 12:19
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Bridges of Light

 
Excellent!
 
Posted by Bridges of Light on Friday, October 31, 2008 - 15:03
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Missa

 
Amen!! (no pun intended ... LOL) Seriously, one must consider the wisdom of Lazarus Long: "The most preposterous notion that H.sapiens has ever dreamed up is that the Lord God of Creation, Shaper and Ruler of all the Universes, wants the saccharine adoration of His creatures, and becomes petulant if He does not receive this flattery. Yet this absurd fantasy, without a shred of evidence to bolster it, pays all the expenses of the oldest, largest, and least productive industry in all history."
 
Posted by Missa on Friday, October 31, 2008 - 18:54
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red herring
Red Herring

 
i agree with what somone else said, the last answear was great, all the answears were great, you a real figure for the atheist minority
 
Posted by red herring on Friday, October 31, 2008 - 20:01
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robocock
kale kooals

 
Great interview. One day...
 
Posted by robocock on Friday, October 31, 2008 - 20:01
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fotéro

 
as always, solid.
 
Posted by fotéro on Friday, October 31, 2008 - 20:13
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Nina

 
give em hell, Pat :)
 
Posted by Nina on Friday, October 31, 2008 - 22:05
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BurningThreads
Burning Threads

 
Impressive as always Pat...
 
Posted by BurningThreads on Friday, October 31, 2008 - 22:40
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Bold Templar
John Reardon

 
A splendid interview, Pat. Very well stated. Unfortunately it is far, far too reasonable.
 
Posted by Bold Templar on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 04:00
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Holly Ann

 
Ahhh...what a breath of fresh air! Atheists believe in people! Peace. ~Holly
 
Posted by Holly Ann on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 04:13
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Cheryl Buffarilla
LOVes LUlz

 
Excellent interview!
 
Posted by Cheryl Buffarilla on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 12:53
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Truman

 
I really like what you say about people being offended. I agree it is a choice and no offence should be taken to an honest opinion.
 
Posted by Truman on Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 23:05
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j
j c

 
How can we help our children to believe in themselves? If it is our duty to do so, we need to know how.

Read Alice Miller. "For your own good"," Thou shalt not be aware", "Forbibben knowledge".

She clears up any doubt. And explains clearly how religion is used to manipulate young minds
from the outset.
 
Posted by j on Monday, November 03, 2008 - 09:50
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Tony

 
I think perhaps you were a bit too aggressive, but pretty good overall. That seemed like a pretty genuine interview.
 
Posted by Tony on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 12:11
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Axeman
d P

 
Well done Pat. Maintain the Rage bruvva!
 
Posted by Axeman on Friday, November 07, 2008 - 08:44
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Donal
Donal McGee

 
Good man, Pat :-) Great interview! It is impossible for human beings to not be offended in this world and Religion is definitely diminishing all over the world. It is my sincere hope that Astronomy and the discovery of microbial life on Europa or Titan will drive another big nail into its coffin. Science has proven that matter cannot be destroyed so the fact that people are afraid of something so natural as death is baffling to me.

 
Posted by Donal on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 17:22
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Philip

 
Pat,
You epitomize everything I believe about religion. I agree that eople cannot remain stupid forever, but religion and stupidy are here to stay for a very very long time.How unfortunate.
 
Posted by Philip on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 11:22
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David
David Jones

 
As much as I admire Pat (and I have sent enough money to buy a couple beers via donation), there is one problem with what he says.

Live and let live.

They may not try to turn you to the darkside, but they still affect the world you live in without knocking on your door or calling you.

At least in America they do, I can't speak for the United Kingdom. In the United States, these idiots have the right to vote, and unfortunately, idiocy reigns supreme as a majority, which leads to the passing of laws based on religious beliefs.

Although I am not gay, I have gay friends, and I fought Prop 8 in California tooth and nail (the passage of Prop 8 banned gay rights in California). I encouraged the people I knew to vote no but Prop 8 still passed. There is a controversy over the legality of Prop 8, at the moment, but it doesn't dispute the fact that religious beliefs hold sway where they have no right to exist.

Religion doesn't live by the "live and let live" policy of us atheists. They will control you without knocking on your door and asking you to convert.
 
Posted by David on Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 08:48
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Prog Rock Girl

 
Awesome. I wonder what your comedy was like. I still think you are funny, or at least ballsy, your videos make me want to cheer. Also you said you don't actually have any problem with a person of any religion as long as they keep it out of your face. I feel the same when it gets down to it, but am thought of as horribly prejudiced b/c I am tired of people looking the other way and being less than honest about Islamic fundamentalism. If I see Muslims that don't have double standards for men and women, don't look at non-Muslims with contempt (a lot claim they don't, but their statements reveal otherwise), don't defend rioting over cartoons, etc, then I accept them all the way, but I don't want to make excuses for barbaric behavior, whatever religion it is!
 
Posted by Prog Rock Girl on Sunday, January 04, 2009 - 01:02
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Dogan
Dogan AKTAS

 
Bosnian islam is best for europe...sure, preaching in kindergartens as if schools were not enough...
 
Posted by Dogan on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 22:48
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