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Gender: Male
Status: Single
Age: 26
Sign: Gemini

City: Manchester
State: Northwest
Country: UK
Signup Date: 11/12/2006
Tuesday, August 14, 2007 

Category: News and Politics

That news story about the protesters' camp and planned 'direct action' at Heathrow on Sunday has made me mad.  They don't want the planned third runway to go ahead because they say it's contradictory to the government's stance on climate change.

What if these cretins actually got what they wanted?  What would they have us do?  How would they propose we transport ourselves?  Cars?  NO!  CARBON FOOTPRINT!  Trains?  NO, CARBON FOOTPRINT!  .....etc until we run out of options.  I'm sure they'd like us to live in little huts made of organic straw and mud, doing nothing at all.  If we wanted to visit our friends in whatever fetid favela was down the muddy track, we'd have to dream up some sort of ridiculous solar/methane/wind powered contraption made of leaves which would go at 1/2 a mile per hour.  It would be like the supersafe future in Demoliton man times infinity.

OK I've finished now.  I'm off to drive about in my massive 10-litre SUV, ram-raiding big-eyed animals and snivelling lefties while smoking the hugest cigar imaginable, eating dolphin meat out of a can and drinking whatever alcohol I can find that's been imported from the most distant corner of the globe.

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adrianne

 
They really are absurd to do something like that. And you are absolutely right: how are we going to move from one place to another? Maybe teleport, but not yet! And, while not using any transportation means but the bike, maybe we should turn off everything and just user good old books and notebooks. And stick to a carbon neutral state and not evolve anymore.

This is stupid and they know it! It would be really sad if they didn't! I can't understand what really motivates them, but I think it would be great if the would use their energy for something more important or really useful. If they could read about the real causes of the climate change they would really have something to fight for.
 
Posted by adrianne on Monday, August 13, 2007 - 1:59 PM
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Awake Imaging
Isobel Dutton

 
Adrianne, what would you suggest is more important then trying to prevent the destruction of our planet?
 
Posted by Awake Imaging on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 9:35 AM
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adrianne

 
The most important thing is to prevent the destruction of the planet, but it's in vain if we will strat working in the wrong direction. This is why it is very important to understand climate and see what triggers its changes and what aspects should we pay attention to first.
 
Posted by adrianne on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 9:05 PM
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adrianne

 
I am not sure anybody can answer to your question, I have read and read so many information resources in the past years and I am not sure what to answer to that. Still, the most complete source I have found it on www.whatisclimate.com. If you ask me, I would just sit and think about it, for a while. Just ignore aspects like funding, interests and think only about the planet.

Sorry for not having a more concrete answer, but I am not sure anybody has!
 
Posted by adrianne on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 9:29 PM
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Northern Green Gathering
Northern Green Gathering

 
Adrianne, it is true that there is some controversy over whether carbon dioxide is the true catalyst of climate change. But even if it were not, what of it? The unsustainable use of fossil fuels that drives the world's economy will at some point tip humanity into chaos. Peak Oil is almost upon us and beyond it lies global economic ruin, famine and wars over depleting energy stocks (which are already happening), unless more sustainable solutions to the impending energy crisis are found and acted upon by governments and the multinationals.

If, as is likely, CO2 is directly causing climate change, this will only add to the problems humanity as already facing in the near future.

What these people want is not what you both imagine. Yes, if the cars and the aeroplanes are driven by rapidly depleting oil supplies that pollute the atmosphere, then yes, they would have you use your bicycle. But find a nonpolluting source of energy for our transport and the situation will be much better.
 
Posted by Northern Green Gathering on Monday, August 13, 2007 - 6:25 PM
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OB

 
Nuclear-powered planes are the answer. I'm currently in talks with Boeing and Airbus about this but as you'd expect it is TOP SECRET.
 
Posted by OB on Monday, August 13, 2007 - 8:24 PM
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Isobel Dutton

 
I wonder what your children and your grandchildren will think of your narrow minded comments when they are having to live with the day to day consequences of climate change. The camp is to draw attention to our everyday living habits and to try and educate us on alternative ways of living sustainably. These changes if carried out by many of us will help slow down the effects of our modern life style has on this planet. They are not saying 'don't ever fly or live in a mud hut' but rather look at how you are living and how you can reduce your own personal contribution to climate change. I myself have decided in my own way to help by shopping for locally produced food, growing my own produce on an allotment and cutting out unnessary car journeys. Does this make me a 'snivelling leftie' ? ... no, it just makes me a average mother trying to lead a healty happy life and contribrute to the protection my childs future.
 
Posted by Awake Imaging on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 9:15 AM
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OB

 
Fair points. The idea was to take the argument to ludicrous extremes. Certainly you aren't necessarily a 'snivelling leftie' just because you want to safeguard your child's future.

This is all relative. You can be like Tesco and say 'every little helps' or you can be realistic: Just as the damage caused by me forgetting to turn off a light is relatively slight compared to Heathrow's new runway; the damage caused by Heathrow's new runway will be relatively slight compared to the damage caused over the next few decades by badly regulated industry in the developing world.

Any so-called 'direct action' taken against Heathrow will divert police attention and so compromise security which, in today's geopolitical climate, is 100% unacceptable. Protesting naturally is one thing but endangering the lives of innocent humans - be it directly or indirectly - is tantamount to terrorism. Anybody caught 'storming the runway' or committing any other such deeply irresponsible act should be deported somewhere without any infrastructure at all, such as one of the uninhabited Pitcairn Islands.
 
Posted by OB on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 11:10 AM
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