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Friday, April 20, 2007 
Dear Ms. Winfrey,

It is with the greatest respect and adoration of your loving spirit that I write you. As a young child, I would sit beside my mother everyday and watch your program. As a young adult, with children of my own, I spend much less time in front of the television, but I am ever thankful for the positive effect that you continue to have on our nation, history and culture. The example that you have set as someone unafraid to answer their calling, even when the reality of that calling insists that one self-actualize beyond the point of any given example, is humbling, and serves as the cornerstone of the greatest faith. You, love, are a pioneer.

I am a poet.

Growing up in Newburgh, NY, with a father as a minister and a mother as a school teacher, at a time when we fought for our heroes to be nationally recognized, I certainly was exposed to the great names and voices of our past. I took great pride in competing in my churches Black History Quiz Bowl and the countless events my mother organized in hopes of fostering a generation of youth well versed in the greatness as well as the horrors of our history. Yet, even in a household where I had the privilege of personally interacting with some of the most outspoken and courageous luminaries of our times, I must admit that the voices that resonated the most within me and made me want to speak up were those of my peers, and these peers were emcees. Rappers.
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Yes, Ms. Winfrey, I am what my generation would call "a Hip Hop head." Hip Hop has served as one of the greatest aspects of my self-definition. Lucky for me, I grew up in the 80's when groups like Public Enemy, Rakim, The jungle Brothers, Queen Latifah, and many more realized the power of their voices within the artform and chose to create music aimed at the upliftment of our generation.

As a student at Morehouse College where I studied Philosophy and Drama I was forced to venture across the street to Spelman College for all of my Drama classes, since Morehouse had no theater department of its own. I had few complaints. The performing arts scholarship awarded me by Michael Jackson had promised me a practically free ride to my dream school, which now had opened the doors to another campus that could make even the most focused of young boys dreamy, Spelman. One of my first theater professors, Pearle Cleage, shook me from my adolescent dream state. It was the year that Dr. Dre's "The Chronic" was released and our introduction to Snoop Dogg as he sang catchy hooks like "Bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks…" Although, it was a playwriting class, what seemed to take precedence was Ms. Cleages political ideology, which had recently been pressed and bound in her 1st book, Mad at Miles. As, you know, in this book she spoke of how she could not listen to the music of Miles Davis and his muted trumpet without hearing the muted screams of the women that he was outspoken about "man-handling". It was my first exposure to the idea of an artist being held accountable for their actions outside of their art. It was the first time I had ever heard the word, "misogyny". And as Ms. Cleage would walk into the classroom fuming over the women she would pass on campus, blasting those Snoop lyrics from their cars and jeeps, we, her students, would be privy to many freestyle rants and raves on the dangers of nodding our heads to a music that could serve as our own demise.

Her words, coupled with the words of the young women I found myself interacting with forever changed how I listened to Hip Hop and quite frankly ruined what would have been a number of good songs for me. I had now been burdened with a level of awareness that made it impossible for me to enjoy what the growing masses were ushering into the mainstream. I was now becoming what many Hip Hop heads would call "a Backpacker", a person who chooses to associate themselves with the more "conscious" or politically astute artists of the Hip Hop community. What we termed as "conscious" Hip Hop became our preference for dance and booming systems. Groups like X-Clan, A Tribe Called Quest, Brand Nubian, Arrested Development, Gangstarr and others became the prevailing music of our circle. We also enjoyed the more playful Hip Hop of De La Soul, Heiroglyphics, Das FX, Organized Konfusion. Digable Planets, The Fugees, and more. We had more than enough positivity to fixate on. Hip Hop was diverse.

I had not yet begun writing poetry. Most of my friends hardly knew that I had been an emcee in high school. I no longer cared to identify myself as an emcee and my love of oratory seemed misplaced at Morehouse where most orators were actually preachers in training, speaking with the Southern drawl of Dr. King although they were 19 and from the North. I spent my time doing countless plays and school performances. I was in line to become what I thought would be the next Robeson, Sidney, Ossie, Denzel, Snipes… It wasn't until I was in graduate school for acting at NYU that I was invited to a poetry reading in Manhattan where I heard Asha Bandele, Sapphire, Carl Hancock Rux, Reggie Gaines, Jessica Care Moore, and many others read poems that sometimes felt like monologues that my newly acquired journal started taking the form of a young poets'. Yet, I still noticed that I was a bit different from these poets who listed names like: Audre Lorde, June Jordan, Sekou Sundiata etc, when asked why they began to write poetry. I knew that I had been inspired to write because of emcees like Rakim, Chuck D, LL, Run DMC… Hip Hop had informed my love of poetry as much or even more than my theater background which had exposed me to Shakespeare, Baraka, Fugard, Genet, Hansberry and countless others. In those days, just a mere decade ago, I started writing to fill the void between what I was hearing and what I wished I was hearing. It was not enough for me to critique the voices I heard blasting through the walls of my Brooklyn brownstone. I needed to create examples of where Hip Hop, particularly its lyricism, could go. I ventured to poetry readings with my friends and neighbors, Dante Smith (now Mos Def), Talib Kwele, Erycka Badu, Jessica Care Moore, Mums the Schemer, Beau Sia, Suheir Hammad…all poets that frequented the open mics and poetry slams that we commonly saw as "the other direction" when Hip hop reached that fork in the road as you discussed on your show this past week. On your show you asked the question, "Are all rappers poets?" Nice. I wanted to take the opportunity to answer this question for you.

The genius, as far as the marketability, of Hip Hop is in its competitiveness. Its roots are as much in the dignified aspects of our oral tradition as it is in the tradition of "the dozens" or "signifying". In Hip Hop, every emcee is automatically pitted against every other emcee, sort of like characters with super powers in comic books. No one wants to listen to a rapper unless they claim to be the best or the greatest. This sort of braggadocio leads to all sorts of tirades, showdowns, battles, and sometimes even deaths. In all cases, confidence is the ruling card. Because of the competitive stance that all emcees are prone to take, they, like soldiers begin to believe that they can show no sign of vulnerability. Thus, the most popular emcees of our age are often those that claim to be heartless or show no feelings or signs of emotion. The poet, on the other hand, is the one who realizes that their vulnerability is their power. Like you, unafraid to shed tears on countless shows, the poet finds strength in exposing their humanity, their vulnerability, thus making it possible for us to find connection and strength through their work. Many emcees have been poets. But, no, Ms. Winfrey, not all emcees are poets. Many choose gangsterism and business over the emotional terrain through which true artistry will lead. But they are not to blame. I would now like to address your question of leadership.

You may recall that in immediate response to the attacks of September 11th, our president took the national stage to say to the American public and the world that we would "…show no sign of vulnerability". Here is the same word that distinguishes poets from rappers, but in its history, more accurately, women from men. To make such a statement is to align oneself with the ideology that instills in us a sense of vulnerability meaning "weakness". And these meanings all take their place under the heading of what we consciously or subconsciously characterize as traits of the feminine. The weapon of mass destruction is the one that asserts that a holy trinity would be a father, a male child, and a ghost when common sense tells us that the holiest of trinities would be a mother, a father, and a child: Family. The vulnerability that we see as weakness is the saving grace of the drunken driver who because of their drunken/vulnerable state survives the fatal accident that kills the passengers in the approaching vehicle who tighten their grip and show no physical vulnerability in the face of their fear. Vulnerability is also the saving grace of the skate boarder who attempts a trick and remembers to stay loose and not tense during their fall. Likewise, vulnerability has been the saving grace of the African American struggle as we have been whipped, jailed, spat upon, called names, and killed, yet continue to strive forward mostly non-violently towards our highest goals. But today we are at a crossroads, because the institutions that have sold us the crosses we wear around our necks are the most overt in the denigration of women and thus humanity. That is why I write you today, Ms. Winfrey. We cannot address the root of what plagues Hip Hop without addressing the root of what plagues today's society and the world.

You see, Ms. Winfrey, at it's worse; Hip Hop is simply a reflection of the society that birthed it. Our love affair with gangsterism and the denigration of women is not rooted in Hip Hop; rather it is rooted in the very core of our personal faith and religions. The gangsters that rule Hip Hop are the same gangsters that rule our nation. 50 Cent and George Bush have the same birthday (July 6th). For a Hip Hop artist to say "I do what I wanna do/Don't care if I get caught/The DA could play this mothaf@kin tape in court/I'll kill you/ I ain't playin'" epitomizes the confidence and braggadocio we expect an admire from a rapper who claims to represent the lowest denominator. When a world leader with the spirit of a cowboy (the true original gangster of the West: raping, stealing land, and pillaging, as we clapped and cheered.) takes the position of doing what he wants to do, regardless of whether the UN or American public would take him to court, then we have witnessed true gangsterism and violent negligence. Yet, there is nothing more negligent than attempting to address a problem one finds on a branch by censoring the leaves.

Name calling, racist generalizations, sexist perceptions, are all rooted in something much deeper than an uncensored music. Like the rest of the world, I watched footage on AOL of you dancing mindlessly to 50 Cent on your fiftieth birthday as he proclaimed, "I got the ex/if you're into taking drugs/ I'm into having sex/ I ain't into making love" and you looked like you were having a great time. No judgment. I like that song too. Just as I do, James Brown's Sex Machine or Grand Master Flashes "White Lines". Sex, drugs, and rock and roll is how the story goes. Censorship will never solve our problems. It will only foster the sub-cultures of the underground, which inevitably inhabit the mainstream. There is nothing more mainstream than the denigration of women as projected through religious doctrine. Please understand, I am by no means opposing the teachings of Jesus, by example (he wasn't Christian), but rather the men that have used his teachings to control and manipulate the masses. Hip Hop, like Rock and Roll, like the media, and the government, all reflect an idea of power that labels vulnerability as weakness. I can only imagine the non-emotive hardness that you have had to show in order to secure your empire from the grips of those that once stood in your way: the old guard. You reflect our changing times. As time progresses we sometimes outgrow what may have served us along the way. This time, what we have outgrown, is not hip hop, rather it is the festering remnants of a God depicted as an angry and jealous male, by men who were angry and jealous over the minute role that they played in the everyday story of creation. I am sure that you have covered ideas such as these on your show, but we must make a connection before our disconnect proves fatal.

We are a nation at war. What we fail to see is that we are fighting ourselves. There is no true hatred of women in Hip Hop. At the root of our nature we inherently worship the feminine. Our overall attention to the nurturing guidance of our mothers and grandmothers as well as our ideas of what is sexy and beautiful all support this. But when the idea of the feminine is taken out of the idea of what is divine or sacred then that worship becomes objectification. When our governed morality asserts that a woman is either a virgin or a whore, then our understanding of sexuality becomes warped. Note the dangling platinum crosses over the bare asses being smacked in the videos. The emcees of my generation are the ministers of my father's generation. They too had a warped perspective of the feminine. Censoring songs, sermons, or the tirades of radio personalities will change nothing except the format of our discussion. If we are to sincerely address the change we are praying for then we must first address to whom we are praying.

Thank you, Ms. Winfrey, for your forum, your heart, and your vision. May you find the strength and support to bring about the changes you wish to see in ways that do more than perpetuate the myth of enmity.

In loving kindness,

Saul Williams
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Nicole

 
You explain things so eloquently.
 
Posted by Nicole on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 12:40 AM
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B-Tarded

 
Dude... I listned, and it was incredibly ballsy.
"When it turns out God is gay" frigging balls man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhY3EU32rWc
Are you familiar with the Fred Phelps cult?
I made a video juxtaposing pics of their
"God Hates Fags" signs with images of
anti-integrationist protesting at schools.
LOL "Race Mixing Is Communism" wtf...
 
Posted by B-Tarded on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 12:13 AM
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AllegraNoir.com
Allegra Noir

 
The question is why were you NOT on the imus aftermath show? You really should have been there. Perhaps if she every has the chance to digest this, she will note that there are wonderful people on the finge who the masses should be exposed to.

Kudos and all the best to you Saul.

 
Posted by AllegraNoir.com on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 12:41 AM
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miss wendy
Wendy White

 
Again and as always your words have the effect of making the lips go numb, eyes well up with tears and breath catch as the sword of your shockingly eloquent mind ripples through my own. You are not just a poet Saul you are one of the best. No one captures the achingly rent spirit of the times and human experience like you do. Thank you for your offerings. Is it cool to repost this?
 
Posted by miss wendy on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 12:44 AM
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Smart Chronicles

 
If only the forum/discussion could have been this diplomatic
 
Posted by Smart Chronicles on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 12:45 AM
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Bill Blake

 
Thank you.  The two episodes of Ms. Winfrey's show almost seemed like witch hunts.  Hopefully, she will acknowledge the clarity of wisdom and reason presented in your open letter, and realize that she is contributing to the media smokescreen that is so efficiently distracting our eyes.  Of course, there is a significant issue at the heart of this thing, but lynching someone or some thing certainly doesn't help matters, and our history proves that censorship has never been a legitimate solution.  I will listen for the voices of truth, and do my part to ensure that they continue to have a venue. 
 
Posted by Bill Blake on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 12:48 AM
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John
John Stringer

 
I congratulate you for expressing your thoughts so well and giving others a chance to observe!  
 
Posted by John on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 1:26 AM
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leandra: the idealistic philosopher

 
i love you.  thank.
 
Posted by leandra: the idealistic philosopher on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 1:29 AM
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Adrian
Adrian Vasquez

 

inspiring


 
Posted by Adrian on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 1:30 AM
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Atelier Rosemary

 
Saul, you are BRAVE, you are BOLD, you are BEAUTIFUL!!!
You are the VOICE the world needs to hear, because you dare to THINK and SPEAK (write) the TRUTH you strive to LISTEN to, coming from the depths of the universe (and your soul)... the waters first rippled, the waves are getting stronger, taller... watch out you'all, the TIDAL WAVE is coming!!!
Thank you for your warning, a new age is dawning, a new energy is birthing, and you, Saul, are HER PROPHET!!!

in Peace and Love,
Rosemary

 
Posted by Atelier Rosemary on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 1:30 AM
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Ms. Esquire

 

That was so well-written. I was truly touched. . . cheering applause.

I think you should post this on Oprah's site. I'm sure she has a blog spot or a fan site or something where you can send her a message. Maybe it will give her something to think about.


 
Posted by Ms. Esquire on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 1:30 AM
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Blk Sonshine

 
Yo Saul,
            First of all! I'm happy to see you with that acoustic instrument in your hands. A lot of soul could come from that relationship. What you've said up here is right on point. It makes way to much sense to ever be discussed in America. But, next time you are in South Africa where no one holds their tongue for the loot and props we can create a public forum on the Trinity of man, woman and child.  That is God!
                                                big up,
                                                        Masauko and Neo(Blk Sonshine)

 
Posted by Blk Sonshine on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 1:32 AM
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ART(R)EVOLUTION

 
V for Vendetta, the ruling class pits working class people against eachother, through ideology like racism and sexism, through squeezing wages and increasing prices, through chipping away at rights and freedoms. The ruling class struggle to possess and dominate creates our struggles. Their struggle of the ruling class to make things seem equal and free on the surface leaves the masses in a constant state of fluxis between being humored and being exploited. The ruling class agenda is never to be confused with benevolence, and this is capitalism, not feudal asia.
 
Posted by ART(R)EVOLUTION on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 10:22 PM
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Marc

 
I as a true hiphoppa supports this post completely.  We as hiphoppas have been under attack for years, mainly for putting the truth out raw and uncut.  So in this reclamation/renaissance of hiphop let's not alter the integrity and reason for it being.  Remember people hiphop stands for Highly Intellectual People Helping Others Prosper.
 
Posted by Marc on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 6:52 AM
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LORD LAW(D) NGAH NAJMAH
I Am I Am

 
Peace Marc.
That is the best description of HIPHOP I've ever read. We know what the artform itself entails: the current culture of how we're living as a people under the pressure of always fighting for our freedoms. Brotha Saul has made so many realize that we are the highest ranking NGHs on the face of the planet and we have a responsibility to ourselves and family to show the world that we are capable of being self-directed. I'm not being arrogant. I'm just aware that we have to overstand all that our greatness consist of and the balance that has to be maintained in order to actualize that greatness.
Thank you for that stimulating comment of truth.

Love in details.
PurpleCoal, Anajmah El Tohami production.
 
Posted by LORD LAW(D) NGAH NAJMAH on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 9:03 PM
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Domme Alice Skary
Alice Skary

 

thank you for speaking up and sharing this. i hope that Oprah reads it and shares your words.

..and thank you for sharing your works with us.


 
Posted by Domme Alice Skary on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 6:53 AM
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Frank

 

awesome.


 
Posted by Frank on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 7:00 AM
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Natalia

 

My draw dropped during, after, and still mouth wide open... I have never read a letter so clear and concise. Your theory, opinion, and intelligence by far is genius. I already have a great deal of repect for your work but on a personal level I am so thankful to know that there is someone like you out there. If ever anyone to address Oprah (a female icon and success) on this topic, it was meant to be you.

Sincerely,

Natalie


 
Posted by Natalia on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 7:06 AM
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jason

 
you are brilliant. truly a brilliant poet. thank you for being honest and true to your inner being.
 
Posted by jason on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 7:08 AM
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Interesting to read your point of view on these gigantic issues.  Censorship ensures a desire - just as a warning on a packet of cigarettes will ensure that people will continue to smoke, banned books etcetera... Is is not known what mirrors reflect? Perspective of  the feminine and the masculine is ever changing within societies, groups and individuals. The ability to assert individual thought without discussion and the necessity of opposing expressions, (maybe like competition in hip hop or other artistic arenas) is arguably more about human nature than to whom we pray.


 
Posted by on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 7:10 AM
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vallerena
Val Wiley

 

      I really think she'll appreciate that. You said it all greatly. Women are the root of nature and with the way the world is right now it is just frightening to think of raising new life. Nothing is censored except our American news most of the time. We just have to get peoples brains working and aware of  the now, present and future by only teaching them what we already now and how it has already affected us. History repeats itself, and it is definatly obvious. You always wonder though how long it can take someone to realize the art about the music. Instead of  just listening to all the  hits. You really inspire me, I have the hardest time remebering me, then I get into a phase or discussion on my own and it opens up and my progressive open-mind flows out out of the mouth. That is of course from reading what you wrote to Ms.Winfrey. You are classic and collective emcee, your work is radicle. I would love to see you in show someday. Cleveland is my local homeland. Peace and God bless.

-Valerie


 
Posted by vallerena on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 7:11 AM
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. e,la;ine

 
if i were Oprah i would marry you, & listen to you talk all night.
 
Posted by . e,la;ine on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 7:11 AM
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PAOLA
Paola Soto

 
THANK YOU! Thank you for standing up and expressing the complexities of our world, our history, our society, and present state.
 
Posted by PAOLA on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 7:13 AM
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this is fucking awesome. I heard Chappele is hiding out in her school in Africa
 
Posted by on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 7:13 AM
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zain

 
I love that you illustrated the parallels among Hip- Hop, Government, and Religion. Power and fear of lack of power are undoubtedly, and unfortunately more of a motivation than vulnurability. Vulnerability is power. Once we learn to expose ourselves fear becomes fuel and wisdom ever present. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I do hope that I will get a chance to see you and Ms. Winfrey dialog in the near future. (i also hope you and xeo 3 will calabo)

peace always

azania
 
Posted by zain on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 7:14 AM
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ART(R)EVOLUTION

 
Awesome thought, 'Zane.' Didn't occur to me. Relates to Marxist dialectic to me; we are products of conditions or circumstances beyond our own choosing, but we also have the power to inact changes within those circumstances. I think your point with Saul Williams' help bring it together full circle!
 
Posted by ART(R)EVOLUTION on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 10:22 PM
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Ben Sturges

 
Saul,

I see all that you are saying- I agree with your statements on poets v. mcs, your take on society, and religion.  But I feel you stop short.  You seem to be echoing what Russell Simmons was saying (“these poets are just talking about what’s around them”) with statements like “
Hip Hop is simply a reflection of the society that birthed it.” Or more to the point- ‘art imitates life’.  But I don’t see why you aren’t talking about life imitating art- especially when we live in a culture where everyone wants to dress, talk and act like those they see on tv or in movies.  Now, I don’t think hip hop in general or certain rappers in particular are the root cause of misogyny or all the mistreatment of women, but I do know that there are elements in many hip hop songs (both lyrically and visually- music videos) that PERPETUATE the denigration of women. In your words- “Watching BET like ‘what the fuck son, this is foul’”.

I do think that society needs to change- but at the same time I agree with Oprah when she says “do we have to wait for society to change before we can stop being called bitches and hos in these rap songs?”.  It would be great to think that society could change overnight and there would be a trickle down effect, but that’s idealistic and wishful thinking.  It’s not going to happen.  So should we keep on “building up a tolerance to bullshit”, as you put it?  Should we change the channel (which really doesn’t make the problem go away), or wait until the channel has changed / chained us, and we become desensitized?

Or better yet- should we be complacent and sit on our hands with John Mayer, “waiting on the world to change”?

Rappers should show a sense of social responsibility to their audience and those that are at risk of becoming their audience.  There are plenty of artists that don’t rely on misogyny to make money. There’s really no excuse for these lyrics or behavior.

The bottom line is:

One can come up with a million reasons (such as society or religion) as to why certain rappers call women bitches and hos or pour liquor over their g-stringed butts, but not one of those reasons is justification.  Not one.


“be the change you want to see in the world” - Gandhi


BEN STURGES | BEGS UNREST

 
Posted by Ben Sturges on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 7:17 AM
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Ben Sturges

 
<span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman";">In addition to what I wrote above, I would like to say this-

Saul, it is true, the hip hop we here today is not the hip hop that you and I grew up on.<span style="">  </span>But I would take it a step further and say that all this misogyny, materialism, and gangsterism isn’t hip hop at all.<span style="">  </span>Since I know you like metaphors, I would call it a weed in the garden of hip hop.<span style="">  </span>It’s a weed that has long been masquerading as just another flower.<span style="">  </span>And we can analyze it to death- ‘the weed is there because there’s too much sunlight’, ‘the weed is there because it’s rained a lot lately’, or even ‘the weed is there because the rest of the yard has weeds in it’ (society).<span style="">  </span>But at the root of the matter, the weed needs to be removed because it’s not part of the garden.</span>
 
Posted by Ben Sturges on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 3:19 PM
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I completely agree. Thank you for writing this.
 
Posted by on Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 12:40 AM
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that is, I completely agree with Ben, above me.
 
Posted by on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 8:02 AM
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Day For Night
Damon Young

 
Let me second that emotion 

I would also like to add that you, Saul, have learned a lesson that many of your emcee brethren have not:  Even if you assume that hip-hop makes uses of these phrases as a wake-up call to the rest of the world about the ills of our society, the message is clearly being lost because so many people simply cannot hear anything else anyone says after they utter the word "bitch".

Yes, the message matters, but delivery matters also.

Additionally, while we all appreciate guys like yourself and Common standing up for the beauty of hip-hop, you guys aren't the problem, in the eyes of folks like Oprah & such.  Mos Def & Kweli & Dead Prez and all of the rest of your ilk aren't the  problem.

The Snoop Doggs and the Lil' Jons and the Trinas and the Foxy Browns and the Ying-Yang Twins of the world are the ones who make the music that is most commonly identified with hip-hop (for good or for ill) by the mainstream (including Oprah), who make the music that upsets the most people.  When are THEY going to be added to the conversation?  When can we hear THEY'RE side of the story?  When can we hear the frequent offenders speak for themselves?  That's the point at which the discussion and the issue can move forward.  It's not enough to have the conscious hip-hop heads at the table.  We need to bring in ALL sides of the equation.

 
Posted by Day For Night on Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 3:40 PM
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you are OUR shining, Black, Prince...
 
Posted by on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 7:17 AM
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www.twitter.com/Merckus_Graham
Merckus Graham

 
I AM GLAD THAT YOU ARE MAKING THE EFFORTS TO OPEN MINDS AND EYES. WOMAN HAVE BEEN TREATED AS IF THE WERE A PART OF THE SECOND CLASS SINCE THE DAWN OF TIME. THE MEDIA VIEWS THIS AS A SOURCE OF CAPITOL. THE DEGRADE OUR PROPHETS IN SEARCH FOR PROFITS. I GREATLY RESPECT YOUR OPINIONS IN THIS MATTER.

~MERCK

 
Posted by www.twitter.com/Merckus_Graham on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 7:17 AM
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EPMG Records
Elevated Peace Music Group

 
thank you for shining the light......
 
Posted by EPMG Records on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 7:18 AM
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Jessiaremidorius

 
Enlightening As Always.



 
Posted by Jessiaremidorius on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 7:18 AM
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Ms Purity
Miss Purity

 
Thanks  for speaking for all of us , well put  my brother , well put
 
Posted by Ms Purity on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 7:18 AM
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Tha Original Wana-Boo!!!

 
Amen!
 
Posted by Tha Original Wana-Boo!!! on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 7:18 AM
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Allison

 

Dear Mr. Williams,

 

Thank you for addressing Oprah's questioning of all rappers being poets.  All are not, precious few remain.  I found myself angered with the belief of some of the gentlemen on  the panel who voiced that it would be women who change the way we are objectified through the image and word.  Women and men are both responsible for where we are as a society, and therefore will be have to stand up and be the change we wish to see in the world. I am not a Christian, I practice Buddhism and know that my views are not of the mainstream.  It is refreshing to take in the words of such a gifted and intelligent man.

 

With gratitude,

 

Allison Black


 
Posted by Allison on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 8:42 AM
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MELODY EH$ANI
melody ehsani

 
very well said...i enjoyed reading this Saul.
 
Posted by MELODY EH$ANI on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 8:43 AM
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Ke'a
Ke'a Eason

 
Saul...PERFECTLY WRITTEN!!! THANK YOU!! I want to see you on Oprah saying this!!!!!!
 
Posted by Ke'a on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 4:09 PM
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Tone's Woman
Keala Jacobs

 
Alrighty NOW!  That's what I'm talking about.  Preach on brother.
 
Posted by Tone's Woman on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 4:09 PM
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kt

 

WOW,so true so true.

kt


 
Posted by kt on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 4:10 PM
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skttrbrain

 
much.
love.

for this letter and for just about everything else you do.

<3

 
Posted by skttrbrain on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 4:10 PM
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Michael Indemaio

 
Saul, i love the letter of course, and here only feel compelled to express my reactionary thoughts.
When Jesus spoke of God as father, realize he was using patriarchal language for God in a way that subverts all earthly patriarchy. The metaphor runs parallel to the idea of God as your only lord (the only master and the only real source of power). The language shouldn't be mistook to apply a gender to God, as if such a small attribute could fit such a large being. Both genders have their place in divinity just as do all races faces and ages. In fact, early Christianity (before falling victim to obvious corruption) gave a role and freedom to women that was very different from the conventions of Mediterranean society then.
 
It's all about creation and our role in it. It's about not letting the material world and delusions of power (be it 50 or Bush) become snares that keep us from a better way -- a way that has compassion for others and for the created. Every great wisdom teacher has seen that something is wrong about the common or conventional behavior of their society, and they have seen a better way. William James spoke of these things as "an uneasiness" and "it's solution," to which he claimed the religions of the world "bear their testimony unanimously." We see this sort of thing in countless teachers. Socrates, Jesus, Lao Tzu, Buddha, Ghandi, and at times like this yourself Saul. You too see the uneasiness around you and have the ability to express a better way. I love your vision and here am merely saying i feel we should be careful to outgrow only the hateful harmful misogynistic misrepresentations of The Creator, and not in fact The Creator.
 
I believe comparing the emcees of our generation to the ministers of our fathers was apropos of you, in that they have taken something inexplicably positive and filled it with their own misdirection. You make it clear that you don't oppose the teachings of Jesus, but just those who have used them "to control and manipulate the masses." So the question is, how does it come to be that even a wisdom that teaches against hate, against division, and against subjugation, is so often used to the contrary? Well you have before asked "how much is it gonna cost to buy you out of buying into a reality that originally bought you?" That speaks to it. The once whimsical proud gold chains of the old-school become the ridiculous pseudo-status bling of today. When you say "vulnerability is power," that strikes a chord with me. It may be the closest we can get to any real power, because anything else is a front. Humanity is nothing without it's imperfection and in the pursuit of control it always becomes something ugly. So i can't say any more plainly that censorship is wrong, always.
 
Your letter made me think a bit of Tupac. His anger always seemed justified (or at least understandable), and at times even beautiful, but in the end is anger ever anything but destructive? Hate's most crippling effect may be it's contagion. With all of Tupac's talent, what i look back on fondly is the side of him that was poetic in nature. To me that's what set him apart, and he looms in my mind as a tragic figure. Someone who fell victim to the reality he raged against, and in this case, a poet who was swallowed up by his own gangsta rap.
 
I think you're right, that not every rapper is a poet. I think that's okay -- but the ones that are can mean so much, and that should be more acknowledged. I know how poetry can come in a million different ways, and we need to let it. More than ever this world is grown by words and shaped by ideas. Neither the stage nor the audience have ever been so big, and so we need more poets.
We need more honesty of self. We need to listen to our wisdom teachers new and old, and realize they're all talking the same type of thing. The dialogue is important, and we need to partake in it together. It's not that hard if you're brave enough to be "vulnerable" -- strong enough to be weak, beautiful enough to be true. Don't keep it real, make it better. Thank you for all that Saul, and for letting me express here.
Word life.
-Michael Indemaio

 
Posted by Michael Indemaio on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 4:27 AM
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RJ
Robert Siniscalchi

 
If all words spoke such truth...
 
Posted by RJ on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 4:27 AM
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Greer Sommer
Greer Sommer

 
Dear Saul, Thank you for your unique and powerful spirit.  It's your vulnerable qualities that makes you so tender and inspiratinal.  Much love to you and your homies.  Diagonal//////////Greer Starr Sommer

 
Posted by Greer Sommer on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 3:56 PM
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Krak Trax

 
Thank you for bringing back the true roots of hip hop.
 
Posted by Krak Trax on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 12:19 AM
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current.resistor RN

 
i must admit, although long... its a necessary point to get across. you span the ages. keep thinking!
 
Posted by current.resistor RN on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 8:45 AM
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Black Atticus™

 
<P>your words really really really keep emcees inspired to train their fire in a positive direction.  i like how you don't mince words..it IS a war.  it IS worth fighting.  belief is POWER.  words are POWER-FULL.  the language of coincidence, hinting at certain truths omitted from spiritual scripture is evident....</P><P>its a great feeling to know you are not alone.</P>
 
Posted by Black Atticus™ on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 4:35 PM
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360

 

I'm waiting for Oprah's response...can she have a valid rebuttal?

Saul...keep us thinking...blessings


 
Posted by 360 on Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 12:14 AM
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