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Thursday, April 19, 2007 
An open letter to Oprah 4/18/7: From Saul Wiliams

D
ear Ms. Winfrey,

It is with the greatest respect and adoration of your loving spirit that I write you. As a young child, I would sit beside my mother everyday and watch your program. As a young adult, with children of my own, I spend much less time in front of the television, but I am ever thankful for the positive effect that you continue to have on our nation, history and culture. The example that you have set as someone unafraid to answer their calling, even when the reality of that calling insists that one self-actualize beyond the point of any given example, is humbling, and serves as the cornerstone of the greatest faith. You, love, are a pioneer.

I am a poet.

Growing up in Newburgh, NY, with a father as a minister and a mother as a school teacher, at a time when we fought for our heroes to be nationally recognized, I certainly was exposed to the great names and voices of our past. I took great pride in competing in my churches Black History Quiz Bowl and the countless events my mother organized in hopes of fostering a generation of youth well versed in the greatness as well as the horrors of our history. Yet, even in a household where I had the privilege of personally interacting with some of the most outspoken and courageous luminaries of our times, I must admit that the voices that resonated the most within me and made me want to speak up were those of my peers, and these peers were emcees. Rappers.
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Yes, Ms. Winfrey, I am what my generation would call "a Hip Hop head." Hip Hop has served as one of the greatest aspects of my self-definition. Lucky for me, I grew up in the 80's when groups like Public Enemy, Rakim, The jungle Brothers, Queen Latifah, and many more realized the power of their voices within the artform and chose to create music aimed at the upliftment of our generation.

As a student at Morehouse College where I studied Philosophy and Drama I was forced to venture across the street to Spelman College for all of my Drama classes, since Morehouse had no theater department of its own. I had few complaints. The performing arts scholarship awarded me by Michael Jackson had promised me a practically free ride to my dream school, which now had opened the doors to another campus that could make even the most focused of young boys dreamy, Spelman. One of my first theater professors, Pearle Cleage, shook me from my adolescent dream state. It was the year that Dr. Dre's "The Chronic" was released and our introduction to Snoop Dogg as he sang catchy hooks like "Bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks…" Although, it was a playwriting class, what seemed to take precedence was Ms. Cleages political ideology, which had recently been pressed and bound in her 1st book, Mad at Miles. As, you know, in this book she spoke of how she could not listen to the music of Miles Davis and his muted trumpet without hearing the muted screams of the women that he was outspoken about "man-handling". It was my first exposure to the idea of an artist being held accountable for their actions outside of their art. It was the first time I had ever heard the word, "misogyny". And as Ms. Cleage would walk into the classroom fuming over the women she would pass on campus, blasting those Snoop lyrics from their cars and jeeps, we, her students, would be privy to many freestyle rants and raves on the dangers of nodding our heads to a music that could serve as our own demise.

Her words, coupled with the words of the young women I found myself interacting with forever changed how I listened to Hip Hop and quite frankly ruined what would have been a number of good songs for me. I had now been burdened with a level of awareness that made it impossible for me to enjoy what the growing masses were ushering into the mainstream. I was now becoming what many Hip Hop heads would call "a Backpacker", a person who chooses to associate themselves with the more "conscious" or politically astute artists of the Hip Hop community. What we termed as "conscious" Hip Hop became our preference for dance and booming systems. Groups like X-Clan, A Tribe Called Quest, Brand Nubian, Arrested Development, Gangstarr and others became the prevailing music of our circle. We also enjoyed the more playful Hip Hop of De La Soul, Heiroglyphics, Das FX, Organized Konfusion. Digable Planets, The Fugees, and more. We had more than enough positivity to fixate on. Hip Hop was diverse.

I had not yet begun writing poetry. Most of my friends hardly knew that I had been an emcee in high school. I no longer cared to identify myself as an emcee and my love of oratory seemed misplaced at Morehouse where most orators were actually preachers in training, speaking with the Southern drawl of Dr. King although they were 19 and from the North. I spent my time doing countless plays and school performances. I was in line to become what I thought would be the next Robeson, Sidney, Ossie, Denzel, Snipes… It wasn't until I was in graduate school for acting at NYU that I was invited to a poetry reading in Manhattan where I heard Asha Bandele, Sapphire, Carl Hancock Rux, Reggie Gaines, Jessica Care Moore, and many others read poems that sometimes felt like monologues that my newly acquired journal started taking the form of a young poets'. Yet, I still noticed that I was a bit different from these poets who listed names like: Audrey Lourde, June Jordan, Sekou Sundiata etc, when asked why they began to write poetry. I knew that I had been inspired to write because of emcees like Rakim, Chuck D, LL, Run DMC… Hip Hop had informed my love of poetry as much or even more than my theater background which had exposed me to Shakespeare, Baraka, Fugard, Genet, Hansberry and countless others. In those days, just a mere decade ago, I started writing to fill the void between what I was hearing and what I wished I was hearing. It was not enough for me to critique the voices I heard blasting through the walls of my Brooklyn brownstone. I needed to create examples of where Hip Hop, particularly its lyricism, could go. I ventured to poetry readings with my friends and neighbors, Dante Smith (now Mos Def), Talib Kwele, Erycka Badu, Jessica Care Moore, Mums the Schemer, Beau Sia, Suheir Hammad…all poets that frequented the open mics and poetry slams that we commonly saw as "the other direction" when Hip hop reached that fork in the road as you discussed on your show this past week. On your show you asked the question, "Are all rappers poets?" Nice. I wanted to take the opportunity to answer this question for you.

The genius, as far as the marketability, of Hip Hop is in its competitiveness. Its roots are as much in the dignified aspects of our oral tradition as it is in the tradition of "the dozens" or "signifying". In Hip Hop, every emcee is automatically pitted against every other emcee, sort of like characters with super powers in comic books. No one wants to listen to a rapper unless they claim to be the best or the greatest. This sort of braggadocio leads to all sorts of tirades, showdowns, battles, and sometimes even deaths. In all cases, confidence is the ruling card. Because of the competitive stance that all emcees are prone to take, they, like soldiers begin to believe that they can show no sign of vulnerability. Thus, the most popular emcees of our age are often those that claim to be heartless or show no feelings or signs of emotion. The poet, on the other hand, is the one who realizes that their vulnerability is their power. Like you, unafraid to shed tears on countless shows, the poet finds strength in exposing their humanity, their vulnerability, thus making it possible for us to find connection and strength through their work. Many emcees have been poets. But, no, Ms. Winfrey, not all emcees are poets. Many choose gangsterism and business over the emotional terrain through which true artistry will lead. But they are not to blame. I would now like to address your question of leadership.

You may recall that in immediate response to the attacks of September 11th, our president took the national stage to say to the American public and the world that we would "…show no sign of vulnerability". Here is the same word that distinguishes poets from rappers, but in its history, more accurately, women from men. To make such a statement is to align oneself with the ideology that instills in us a sense of vulnerability meaning "weakness". And these meanings all take their place under the heading of what we consciously or subconsciously characterize as traits of the feminine. The weapon of mass destruction is the one that asserts that a holy trinity would be a father, a male child, and a ghost when common sense tells us that the holiest of trinities would be a mother, a father, and a child: Family. The vulnerability that we see as weakness is the saving grace of the drunken driver who because of their drunken/vulnerable state survives the fatal accident that kills the passengers in the approaching vehicle who tighten their grip and show no physical vulnerability in the face of their fear. Vulnerability is also the saving grace of the skate boarder who attempts a trick and remembers to stay loose and not tense during their fall. Likewise, vulnerability has been the saving grace of the African American struggle as we have been whipped, jailed, spat upon, called names, and killed, yet continue to strive forward mostly non-violently towards our highest goals. But today we are at a crossroads, because the institutions that have sold us the crosses we wear around our necks are the most overt in the denigration of women and thus humanity. That is why I write you today, Ms. Winfrey. We cannot address the root of what plagues Hip Hop without addressing the root of what plagues today's society and the world.

You see, Ms. Winfrey, at it's worse; Hip Hop is simply a reflection of the society that birthed it. Our love affair with gangsterism and the denigration of women is not rooted in Hip Hop; rather it is rooted in the very core of our personal faith and religions. The gangsters that rule Hip Hop are the same gangsters that rule our nation. 50 Cent and George Bush have the same birthday (July 6th). For a Hip Hop artist to say "I do what I wanna do/Don't care if I get caught/The DA could play this mothaf@kin tape in court/I'll kill you/ I ain't playin'" epitomizes the confidence and braggadocio we expect an admire from a rapper who claims to represent the lowest denominator. When a world leader with the spirit of a cowboy (the true original gangster of the West: raping, stealing land, and pillaging, as we clapped and cheered.) takes the position of doing what he wants to do, regardless of whether the UN or American public would take him to court, then we have witnessed true gangsterism and violent negligence. Yet, there is nothing more negligent than attempting to address a problem one finds on a branch by censoring the leaves.

Name calling, racist generalizations, sexist perceptions, are all rooted in something much deeper than an uncensored music. Like the rest of the world, I watched footage on AOL of you dancing mindlessly to 50 Cent on your fiftieth birthday as he proclaimed, "I got the ex/if you're into taking drugs/ I'm into having sex/ I ain't into making love" and you looked like you were having a great time. No judgment. I like that song too. Just as I do, James Brown's Sex Machine or Grand Master Flashes "White Lines". Sex, drugs, and rock and roll is how the story goes. Censorship will never solve our problems. It will only foster the sub-cultures of the underground, which inevitably inhabit the mainstream. There is nothing more mainstream than the denigration of women as projected through religious doctrine. Please understand, I am by no means opposing the teachings of Jesus, by example (he wasn't Christian), but rather the men that have used his teachings to control and manipulate the masses. Hip Hop, like Rock and Roll, like the media, and the government, all reflect an idea of power that labels vulnerability as weakness. I can only imagine the non-emotive hardness that you have had to show in order to secure your empire from the grips of those that once stood in your way: the old guard. You reflect our changing times. As time progresses we sometimes outgrow what may have served us along the way. This time, what we have outgrown, is not hip hop, rather it is the festering remnants of a God depicted as an angry and jealous male, by men who were angry and jealous over the minute role that they played in the everyday story of creation. I am sure that you have covered ideas such as these on your show, but we must make a connection before our disconnect proves fatal.

We are a nation at war. What we fail to see is that we are fighting ourselves. There is no true hatred of women in Hip Hop. At the root of our nature we inherently worship the feminine. Our overall attention to the nurturing guidance of our mothers and grandmothers as well as our ideas of what is sexy and beautiful all support this. But when the idea of the feminine is taken out of the idea of what is divine or sacred then that worship becomes objectification. When our governed morality asserts that a woman is either a virgin or a whore, then our understanding of sexuality becomes warped. Note the dangling platinum crosses over the bare asses being smacked in the videos. The emcees of my generation are the ministers of my father's generation. They too had a warped perspective of the feminine. Censoring songs, sermons, or the tirades of radio personalities will change nothing except the format of our discussion. If we are to sincerely address the change we are praying for then we must first address to whom we are praying.

Thank you, Ms. Winfrey, for your forum, your heart, and your vision. May you find the strength and support to bring about the changes you wish to see in ways that do more than perpetuate the myth of enmity.

In loving kindness,
Saul Williams
Karl Nova [NEW SONGS LOADED UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]

 

I feel this. " when the idea of the feminine is taken out of the idea of what is divine or sacred then that worship becomes objectification"

Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image,
       in the image of God he created him;
       male and female he created them.

God is not a man. It takes both male and female to relfect the image of God. We need to honour our women.

Selah.


 
Posted by Karl Nova [NEW SONGS LOADED UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!] on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 4:45 PM
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Shawn

 
First off, I just want to put it out there that this criticism of Saul William’s words and position is not a criticism of his person. Now that that is out of the way…

The position that Saul is taking (in regards to his Open Letter to Oprah) is dangerous and makes Black Folks look ignorant and lacking free will.

When he states that, at its worst, hip-hop is simply a reflection of the society that birthed it, it is an apologist cop out. This is akin to Nazis saying that they were only following orders.

Hip-hop shouldn’t reflect because a reflection is a backwards and distorted image of either an objective or subjective truth. Hip-hop should be a door. With a door we have the choice of whether or not to enter or exit.

The choice is what is important.

If we continue to apologize for the lowest common denominators of our culture, we will never move forward.

This apologetics of Black ignorance is the reason that popular hip-hop is in the sorry state that it is in.

Fine, the macrocosmic society is screwed but we, the hip-hop heads of the world, have to be better than the sick portions of our world. As artists and educators and just plain citizens, it is our responsibility to use hip-hop as a barrier against all of the ignorant and destructive things that constantly threaten to ensnare us.

While hip-hop isn’t the only aspect of our collective society that is rotting, it is the closest to most of us and it is here where we should institute healing

It is too late in the day for us to accept and sweep under the rug anything that sullies the accomplishments and integrity of the post-African Diaspora.

This is a call to arms for any and everyone who considers them selves a part of the hip-hop culture. It is time to make the hard choices.

There is a cancer in our culture and we are either going to have to cut it out or watch the whole perish.

Shawn Taylor
 
Posted by Shawn on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 7:32 PM
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BadGalsRadio

 

Brotha Saul,  as elegant and longwinded as ever -
Thanks Davey D, this is some real wisdom for the masses;


 
Posted by BadGalsRadio on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 4:55 PM
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Madame AnGeLa to You
Madame Angela S.

 
You got it up Davey, nice.
 
Posted by Madame AnGeLa to You on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 5:28 PM
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Louminous

 
Excellent post... we need to dig out the root to kill the weed that is destroying our garden.... 
 
Posted by Louminous on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 5:35 PM
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Divino DeNegro - Rise Up Radio - WBAI 99.5 FM
Divino DeNegro

 

this is definitely a jewel packed note which promotes the idea of questioning more about ourselves as knowledge is infinite because we are timeless and increase in an insightful reality that is to be internally studied and actualized as we the black people are the gods and earths (allah and allat, osirus and isis, joseph and mary), as every great creator creates himself through the womb which is the door to that next degree or state in life. we're never disconnected...


 
Posted by Divino DeNegro - Rise Up Radio - WBAI 99.5 FM on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 5:37 PM
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Duke Nukem

 
God Damn! Now that is some real talk. Thank you for posting this letter Davey. I don't think anyone other than a poet could put this so eloquently. I love the fact that Saul went to the root of what's really going on, instead of trying to "treat the symptoms." That is how I view the discussion that is currently taking place about Hip Hop in our mainstream media. It's like western medicine. What I mean by that, is that western medicine tends to be more concerned with treating the symptoms of a health issue after it happens, ignoring the root of the problem not considering the methods that might actually heal the ailment. Also ignoring the preventative methods that could be used before any future problems occur. Why does white america seemingly turn to what they believe to be black culture to justify racism? That makes no sense...That's like a slave master complaining about there back hurting because they have to whip there field workers too often. Or, better yet a stranger walking up to you and punching you in the arm thinking it's ok because they saw your friend punch you in the arm a few moments earlier and watched you laugh it off. All in all I am just impressed with Saul Williams ability to put this discussion into a proper perspective.

So, until Chuck D get's on the remix for "This why I'm hot" make mine Hip Hop.(shit make mine Hip Hop anyway, that shit would be hot.) -ONE
 
Posted by Duke Nukem on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 5:43 PM
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Hate The Realness

 
I can hear chuck now..."I'm hot cuz I'm the rebel/ you aint cuz you're not!" LOL! Anyway saul's the man! Ever since "slam" (not onyx) I've had mad respect for the god! I hope oprah reads this, but I doubt it! Sad!
 
Posted by Hate The Realness on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 10:04 PM
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Quetta

 
"Slam" is what hipped me to Saul too!! He's a wonderful poet. When he said: "Hip Hop is simply a reflection of the society that birthed it." Loved it!
 
Posted by Quetta on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 1:44 PM
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Cole

 

i am officially LOVING saul williams. 

truth to power.

you made my day.


 
Posted by Cole on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 5:51 PM
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PERSIA- Twitter/PERSIANYC

 
That was the most beautiful thing Ihave ever read..............
 
Posted by PERSIA- Twitter/PERSIANYC on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 6:21 PM
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Negrito Bueno!

 
That IS my Morehouse brother.
 
Posted by Negrito Bueno! on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 7:47 PM
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muhammed

 

That was great!!!!!!!! Thanks DaveyD


 
Posted by muhammed on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 8:19 PM
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Twitter.com/SimplyAnthony
Mr. Springer

 
This was a much needed piece... Thanks for posting this.
 
Posted by Twitter.com/SimplyAnthony on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 9:36 PM
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OHHLA
OHHLA dotcom

 
"There is nothing more negligent than attempting to address a problem one finds on a branch by censoring the leaves."

True words of wisdom from Saul Williams.

 
Posted by OHHLA on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 12:00 AM
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MoMo Willy

 
Right on.
 
Posted by MoMo Willy on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 1:51 AM
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MAAT Communications

 

"Not until you've listened to Rakim on a rocky mountain top have you heard Hip Hop..."

- Saul Williams

This is true wisdom for the ages.  Anyone down for the preseveration of Hip Hop culture should save this and pass it down for generations to come. P.e.a.c.e.


 
Posted by MAAT Communications on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 2:36 AM
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Marenda

 
Thank you thank you thank you! Great post as always! Saul put it down :)
 
Posted by Marenda on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 3:20 AM
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Keifco " The God in me salutes the God in U

 
All  i can say, is Saul for president!
 
Posted by Keifco " The God in me salutes the God in U on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 3:52 AM
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Heron

 
I've never heard anyone break down the difference between the emcee and poet so well. Thank you.

"Many emcees have been poets. But, no, Ms. Winfrey, not all emcees are poets." I've always felt Saul is more of a spoken word poet than an emcee, but I love the fact that he keeps faith with his generation and has committed himself to the hip hop idiom of expression. Rap music is expanded as an artform due to his work. Contrast that to how some emcees with superior skills contract the artform: I guess I have in mind Jay-Z (I know his latest album is more "mature", but his rise corresponds with rap music's fall).

Deep Deep Thanks to Saul for this commitment and for this much needed analysis.

Somebody said Oprah won't read this. I'm sure Oprah will read it. I just don't know if she will be able to understand it. As far as I know, she does not love rap music or hip hop culture. I notice that she said that Common was a poet. Common is both. Yo, he better hide his first album from them Spelman Women.
 
Posted by Heron on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 8:39 PM
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Anonymous

 

Here is a wise man.

The example that you have set as someone unafraid to answer their calling, even when the reality of that calling insists that one self-actualize beyond the point of any given example, is humbling, and serves as the cornerstone of the greatest faith. You, love, are a pioneer.

That was a concept that I was trying to grasp in my mind and your words helped me understand what I was trying to understand.

Oprah Winfrey is trailblazing.  She's walking strongly down unchartered territory as a  black women in America.  Her very existance gives hope. It take much courage to be Oprah Winfrey.

I like the way S.W.  acknowledged the hatred that exists amongst us.

Name calling, racist generalizations, sexist perceptions, are all rooted in something much deeper than an uncensored music.

Censorship will never solve our problems.

this is not about censorship.  Censorship is refferenced mosty in relation to the american constitution, which also said we where 3/4 human beings.  Making this a censorship issue is left field.  Since when has america ever really had "freedom of speech?"

There is no true hatred of women in Hip Hop.

Although I dont agree with this statement, I wish  it where true.

 I believe that women where the marks in this plot from the very start.  Black women are intricate subjects in the capitolist plot to get money.  I dont believe that degrading women was the initial motive for the strategy. 

the motivation was money.

put frankly:

PIMPING THE "BLACK HOE"  IS VERY FINANCIALLY REWARDING. 

it's the easier to pimp poor women than women with strong financial and family structure.

in any game, somebody has to lose for somebody to win.

The big industry and sellout/impressionable/unsuspecting/uniformed/sexually confused pawns cka rappers are the "winner$" here.

at any rate, I commend Saul Williams for coming correct. 

GOD BLESS YOU



 
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 12:46 AM
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E-Bey
E. Dawson-Bey

 
Articulation at best.
 
Posted by E-Bey on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 1:15 AM
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I love Oprah
 
Posted by on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 6:18 AM
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☀ EL Rasun is... Nice wit the Poetiquette *))

 
True Indeed god!

TRUE INDEED!

Saul held me down on that one, cuz I was getting mad frustrated with the way our culture has been getting played.

The commentary on the sacred feminine was WAY on-point too. If you ask me, this is the downfall of Western society in general, from Greece to America and will continue to be OUR downfall, as long as we turn away from the wisdom of our ancestors.

The commentary on Yeshua (Jesus) was on-time too.. and I feel like, by adding on, you definitely fulfilled the most important teaching, that most christian brothas and sistas never speak on:

"Greater works than I, shall YOU do"

NOOOOO doubt

My position on the whole thing, the HipHop community must do what every culture in history has had to be faced with, at some point in there history:

1. Enlighten
2. Set forth an agenda
3. Unify
4. Get into some ACTION for growth & development


 
Posted by ☀ EL Rasun is... Nice wit the Poetiquette *)) on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 3:47 AM
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☀ EL Rasun is... Nice wit the Poetiquette *))

 
With all due respect. 
 
Posted by ☀ EL Rasun is... Nice wit the Poetiquette *)) on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 3:50 AM
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Dirty D

 

wow!!!

Saul williams for president !!!!

Dirty


 
Posted by Dirty D on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 9:10 PM
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Stephanie

 
I am a poet, a female one, and a feminist. I'm sad to say, I felt nauseated reading Saul Williams's post. I did feel grateful for Jenn Jenn's comment that she was seething over this letter, because I'm so used to (and tired of) feeling like the only woman in the room who doesn't eat this shit up, whenever men spew it out at us. It's parternalistic crap, this idea of "worshiping the feminine," or whatever men want to call it--This is all about reinforcing gender roles, and I understand why a lot of women might want to buy into it--it seems like this kind of "gentler objectification," compared to what men do to women in hip hop, and in pornography. But it's still objectification, it's still treating women as the Other, as not human. 
 
In this case, rather than being men's whores, women are supposed to be deities or godesses, meant to be worshipped by men for our nurturing, life-giving,  feminine ways. Except there's a problem--I'm not a fucking goddess!!! I've been telling people for years, if I had super natural, feminine-goddess powers, I would have used them way before now to stop all the fucked up shit men do to women everyday! But I can't stop those things, because I'm just a human being. This strategy Williams is using, the strategy of claiming to worship the feminine, is a really subtle, manipulitive tactic men use, to get women to focus away from our real problems, right now, in the real world we have to live in, where men beat us up, rape us, and murder us, whether or not there's some divine "feminine entity" out there they're worshipping or claiming to respect. I just want to be treated like a human being, a person, no more, no less. I want human status, social power, a chance at human dignity, like what white men have in this world. 

I can't even believe a man would say something as outlandishly sexist as, "There's no true hatred of women in Hip Hop." What the fuck is this man smoking? This is as ridiculous as saying there's no true hatred of women in pornography. I believe we may now be at a point when, whatever Hip Hop may have been to the Black community at one point, it's so overrun with men's hatred for women now, it might not be redeemable. I've heard black women friends say that to me, that they think hip hop is beyond redemption, and I think they do have a right to say that. Hip Hop has become about hatred for women, like pornography always has been. 
 
At the root of our nature we inherently worship the feminine. Our overall attention to the nurturing guidance of our mothers and grandmothers as well as our ideas of what is sexy and beautiful all support this. 

Dude! What you're saying is, you honor women, so long as they serve you, as a MAN. If they're your mother, or your grandmother, if they carried your Daddy's seed, and brought you, a MAN, into this world, putting your needs above their own, raising your sorry, woman-hating ass, even though keeping you around meant you got to hurt them, got to hurt other women, got to live with male privelege--if they did all that, if they fulfilled this bullshit mystical principle of the "feminine" by giving birth to you, then they get to matter. And the same thing goes for this bullshit about men worshipping women's beauty and sexiness--a woman matters, only so far as she's useful to a man, ie, if he wants to, and can, have sex with her. 
 
I just wish that women weren't socialized to base so much of our self-worth on whether or not men want and like us (myself included). We learn, early on, that when a man thinks we're beautiful, or sexy, or we'd make a good mother, or goddess, or we're nurturing, all that means we have worth--and if men don't think we live up to those qualities, then as women we're nothing, we've failed at the feminine gender role, end of story. We're really primed to buy into this fundamentally anti-feminist garbage, like what Saul Williams is preaching. But we have to realize that being worshipped as sacred, doesn't make us equals. I want to be an equal.

I just have to type something Simone de Beauvoir wrote, because it's relevant. That is the saddest thing, she wrote it in fucking 1950, and it's still relevant, it feels like very little has really changed: 
 
Woman is offered inducements to complicity. I have previously called to mind the fact that, along with the authentic demand of the subject who wants sovereign freedom, there is in the existent an inauthentic longing for resignation and escape; the delights of passivity are made to seem desirable to the young girl by parents and educators, books and myths, women and men; she is taught to enjoy them from earliest childhood; the temptation becomes more and more insidious; and she is the more fatally bound to yield to those delights as the flight of her transcendence is dashed against harsher obstacles. 
But in thus accepting her passive role, the girl also agrees to submit unresistingly to a destiny that is going to be imposed upon her from without, and this calamity frightens her. The young boy...looks toward an open future; he will be a seaman or an engineer, he will stay on the farm or go away to the city, he will see the world...he feels free confronting a future in which the unexpected awaits him. The young girl will be a wife, mother, grandmother; she will keep house, just as her mother did, she will give her children the same care she received herself when young--she is twelve years old and already her story is written in the heavens. She will discover it day after day, without ever making it; she is curious but frightened when she contemplates this life, every stage of which is foreseen and toward which each day moves irresistibly. This explains why the little girl, more than her brothers, is preoccupied with the mysteries of sexuality. Boys...are not most concerned about their role as husband and father, in their futures. Whereas for the girl, marrige and motherhood involve her entire destiny... 
 
Reading Saul Williams's remarks, it's like, men just always want to push us back, to keep us right where we were, just locked in that role of wife (sex object) and mother. God, I want women to wake up and see that men are not being kind when they offer this crap. 
 
When our governed morality asserts that a woman is either a virgin or a whore, then our understanding of sexuality becomes warped. 
 
our government morality? Um, I think you mean MEN, because it's men who are asserting all this shit about women. Take some fucking responsibility Mr. Williams. 
 
stephanie 

 
Posted by Stephanie on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 6:46 PM
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AHHA !NK

 

Hmm..the open letter from Saul is not addressing the root of the problem.  Women down right feel hated by men!  Look how they've been treated for hundreds of years!  From prostituion, slavery, pornography, etc.  All the races of women are being disrespected!  As men we need to change and that starts by learning about values.  We need to stop acting like barbaric, mandigo beasts in heat when we are in a woman's presence!  Women play a role in this too.  Quit playing the victim role.  Stop submitting and compromising your values to these ignorant men!  Men will notice you more and get to know you for who you really are if you put more of your clothes on and stop showin' too much of your assets to try and get our attention.  the same goes for us as well.  You wanna know the solution to this madness?  Answer:  Ask women how they want to be treated!  With unconditional love and respect!

Abstruse of AHHA!NK


 
Posted by AHHA !NK on Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 9:40 PM
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Jerry

 
Stephanie, thanks for replying to this blog.
 
Posted by Jerry on Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 2:15 PM
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AHHA !NK

 
For those who want an alternative to all the wackness out there.  Check out the "We Independent: A Documentary On Independent Hip Hop Trailer"  Go to this link:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cPxIxNopho
 
Posted by AHHA !NK on Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 6:49 PM
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APOLLO POETRY - Go to TravelingPoet.com !!

 
Amen. speak the truth
 
Posted by APOLLO POETRY - Go to TravelingPoet.com !! on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 7:15 PM
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MIQ VERSE

 
First and foremost let me begin by saying HipHop is in a state of emergency and if we do not get at the root of the problem we will self destruct in a short amount of time. Is hiphop dead? Of course not because all over the world there are still individuals practicing the basic elements of hiphop culture. But is mainstream "hiphop" dead? You best believe it. We are in an age where someone like a Young Jeezy feels because he has "homies in the feds" or sold a million records he is hiphop. This is the same guy who wants us to be dumb enough to believe that the Snowman had nothing to do with "selling that white" which was a reoccuring theme in all of his songs. Don't get me wrong I am in no way hating on Jeezy because I'd rather see a brother selling music than selling dope to my children. The problem is that we also have artists like a Lil Wayne who has no idea who he is as an artist or a person. One minute he is criticizing Jay-Z/Nas for saying hiphop is dead the next he is joining allegiances with Nas. We as a culture are currently being lead by hotheads who have no father figure, shoot off at the mouth and have no real idea about themselves past the money, cars, jewels and women. Now don't think I am some holier than thou dude trying to look down on all the new cats in hiphop because until my wife put a foot in my a** for direspecting her I didn't start to take my own inventory and realize that what I have thought for so long was cool or the it thing was truly lack of knowledge of self and complete ignorance. I am a fan of all kinds of hiphop and believe it or not a big fan of 50. I feel here we have the most popular artist in the music business with one of the biggest platforms could you imagine what changes he could make in hiphop single handedly? I know I know alot of you are not feelin' 50 but lets be honest here. If you want to get the ear of 11-12 million strong than who better than 50. White America as a whole ,who are the consumers of hiphop records don't want to hear what Common has to say they want to hear 50! So instead of attacking the mainstream artists why not have a sit down with these artists and prove that you can make hot music and have a solution musically to the perils of the world without disrepecting women, promoting violence or lack of intelligence. Stop making excuses about how hard your life is that you have to talk gunplay or how intelligent that you are and how true of a hiphop head that you are that you can't sit down with the mainstream stars because that is not what you are about! Get it together hiphop we need you.
 
Posted by MIQ VERSE on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 1:52 AM
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Howard Tibbs

 
This letter that saul wrote and Talib's interview on Hot 97.com answer the many questions people have about the Imus situation, the blaming of Hip-Hop, alot of different things

If you do not understand what Saul is saying, your mislead!
 
Posted by Traestar on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 2:27 AM
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Howard Tibbs

 
And about his view about women, all I have to say is STOP accepting the NEGATIVITY that is played by the media. The above person was right about women being mistreated since the beginning of time, and power plays a role in everything we do in this world. Media only exists if you respond to it (listen, watch, play, etc.). And
 
Posted by Traestar on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 2:44 AM
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Traestar
Howard Tibbs

 
..your letting it affect you.
 
Posted by Traestar on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 2:46 AM
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