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Friday, October 12, 2007 
Atlantic Records Tries to Turn 14yr Actress Into Lil Kim

By bruce Banter playahata.com

Keke Palmer, is the 14 year old girl who played Akeelah, in the movie, Akeelah and the Bee. She and her mother Sharon have a huge problem with the upcoming record deal they signed with Atlantic Records in March of 2006. The problem is that the record label wants to market the 14 year old as a sexpot but she does not want that image.

Keke admits "From the very beginning Atlantic's A&R representative tried to get me to record inappropriate music, and my parents and I resisted."

Soon Keke and her mom became tired of fighting the negative images that the label kept trying to force on her, and they started looking for a management company that could deal with the situation. They settled on DAS Entertainment, a management company out of New York.(John Legend label. One problem, the label has been blocking the efforts!

Atlantic kept telling them that "Keke is "urban", and should be singing urban music". Keke's mom Sharon got her in touch with Mr. Edmonds
(Babyface) and he and Keke worked really well together and came up with a good commercial R&B song, but when it came time to pay for the song the label said no, he was "too expensive".

Paul Porter of www.Industryears.com says "Keke Palmer is the poster child for what's wrong with the music industry. Imagine being 12 year's old and Atlantic Records trying to mold Keke in the mold of Lil Kim or Foxy Brown."

The problem with the corporate hip hop machine is more than black and white. Unfortunately white America enjoys seeing and hearing about cultural misogyny, sex and violence. They honestly believe black America is the mix of lyrically challenged artist they promote.

The industry spin on Keke is nothing new. When you fail to promote or market a new artist they often fail. If Keke recorded a Jibb type "Chain Hang Low" or say a Plies "Shorty" BET and radio would be all over it. In my eyes Atlantic Records for now has simply passed on one of the most talented artist to come around in decades. Keke Palmer is no one hit wonder.

Who's behind this nonsense? Well the Senior A&R rep, Mike Caren, was the main antagonist, he kept on saying, " Keke is urban", so as long as they refused to record the raunchy tracks that he sent them, he refused to pay for the good clean music they brought him.At one point he even stopped Keke from recording by not paying for studio time.

Unfortunately, Das Entertainment the Management co was also ineffective in dealing with the label, they now began to codify the intent by repeating , " we will not promote her unless she records urban music".
This statement confused Keke and her mom.They are unsure of what is really being said indirectly.

Just for the record Keke is from the south side of Chicago. She began singing in her church's choir at the age of five, and she auditioned for a stage production of The Lion King at the age of nine. She grew up listening to Brandy, Aaliyah and TLC, so it was not like she was recording rock music! She was recording good music, with great beats, with good positive lyrics, her music is what all kids want to hear no matter where they live. She was blessed to have worked with some of the top producers in the business, some even cut their price down so that the label would not have an excuse not to pay for the songs.

The only thing she and her parents could figure out was that the subject matters that she chose to sing about were not as, " urban " and they would have preferred.

She is only 14 years old, and when she signed the deal she was only 12 years old, "what did they think she would be singing about?" Anyway, they kept their word and did very little to promote her cd. They refused to provide marketing reports, even when Das management kept asking.Then on Sept 14th they received the report, 4 days before her cd release date of Sept 18th.

Needless to say, it was not a good report, there was absolutely no plans to pay for a national announcement to tell kids that her cd was even being released! They kept their word and did not promote Keke because she was too clean, she refused to go " urban", and sing words that disrespect her and other young girls.

Keke's parents tried to promote the release in Chicago(her hometown), they called the press on their own, and managed to get on some morning shows, but that was only in Chicago. Her debut cd that she worked so hard on sold 1,325 copies, the label supposedly shipped 69,000 copies.
She was on a Disney Channel movie called, JUMP IN, that over 8 million households tuned in to watch it's debut, also the soundtrack to that movie debuted at 5 on Billboard. She was the only artist to have 2 songs on that soundtrack(she can sing). The Akeelah DVD sold 1.2 million copies and on that DVD she has a music video, so her audience, kids from 8-15 know who she is. She also sung the end title credit to the block-buster movie NIGHT AT THE MUSEUM, which grossed over 270 million, her voice is the first voice you hear coming out of the movie. Fox tried to get Atlantic to go half on a music video for Keke, but Atlantic declined stating,

"that song is NOT "Keke's image" so we will not pay, of course they regretted that after the movie grossed so much! This was way back in February, 2007, this was a forshadowing of events to come!

Last week Keke's mother, Sharon, received a call from an employee of Atlantic Records, a confidential call off the record. The caller told her mother that the president of the label is so disappointed with low sales that she may pull Keke's cd off the shelf. The caller was so upset by this statement that she wanted Keke's parents to know what was being said behind closed doors. She was disappointed that the label refused to promote Keke, and now they are blaming her for poor sales!
Keke was informed that Congress was working to make the labels promote positive music, well her music is positive, but the label will not spend a dime to promote it because she refused to sing raunchy lyrics, and dares to call herself Pop/R&B and not urban / Hip-Hop.

Keke admits "I am only a kid, my parents would kill me if I sang stuff like that". Ask yourself would they want their daughters to sing negative music?

They knew her age when they signed her, they came to her after seeing Akeelah and the Bee, and begged her to sign, so why did they not think that she could really be like Akeelah, a good girl?

In closing, we are asking our audience, should Keke just let it go, accept the fact that this label will not promote this album. Or should they try to get the message out on their own?

Keke wants to try to get the message out because they worked extremely hard on this music and it is good, and the early reviews online are good.

G0 to www.kekepalmer.com and listen for yourself.

I think the kids would like it if they knew that it was out. Her parents are so tired of fighting the label. They are not rich and to launch their own promotions would cost a lot of money , so her parents don't want to go broke trying to push a cd that the label should be pushing, they go broke to break the album, and the label just becomes richer.
MoMo Willy

 
This is really disgusting. It's a shame she couldn't get a deal with Disney. That would've set her up nice.

Black leaders fighting artists, but not the record execs. Blame the slave, never the master. What is a 14 year old girl supposed to do? Signed a contract, has to put out SOMETHING to fulfill the terms. Even the white artists complain about it. Britney, Christina, and Jessica all said that they were pushed to be sexy at a young age.

The same way they have restrictions on underage actors having sex onscreen is the same way they need to fight against this in the music industry.
 
Posted by MoMo Willy on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 4:07 PM
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MIAMIPIPELINE

 
Momowilly, I don't think Disney would make a betta' Massa' then Atlantic?

How about no Massa' at all and encouraging people try turning off the mainstream spigot. I know my ideas sound crazy to most people but sometimes you got to try "crazy" things to reach a "crazy" world.
 
Posted by MIAMIPIPELINE on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 4:44 PM
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Spita

 
It is time to take HipHop back to it's roots."The revolution will not be televised".As we all know,this art had it's start with social awareness.However, it was not just social awareness.We had artist
that gave us good dance and party music (Sugar hill gang,Kid-n-Play),artist that stood for the feminine aspect of HipHop not just sex symbols(Roxanne Shante,Salt-n-Pepper).Artist wrote about
a number of topics.So in my opinion,we have lost our balance and diversity.Hip hop to me is all about expressing who you are,what you know, how you feel,and where your from.At this point in time,if an alien came down to earth and listened to what is now being called HipHop;it would think
that most African American men are drug dealin,ho slapin,pimpin muthufuckas.It would think that
most African American women are freaks,materialistic,nonloving ho's.WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE!!!!!!!!!!THIS IS NOT US!!!!!!!!Think about it. One love people.


SPITA
 
Posted by Spita on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 4:28 PM
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Aaron

 
I don't know WHY people refuse to "CHECK THE RHYME"!


"Industry rule number four thousand and eighty,
Record company people are shady."
 
Posted by Aaron on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 5:02 PM
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Thinking Man
William Dupar

 
I am sick and tired of these record companys "pimping" our people. We all should be sick of this practice. The only that they are going to change this is if we take a stand and make them change. Upon view "Akellah and the Bee", I noticed that Keke Palmer was a very talented young lady. Now, Atlantic Records wants her to degrade herself for "their" profit. We should boycott Atlantic Records.
 
Posted by Thinking Man on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 5:42 PM
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Trouble

 
1,325 copies sold.

She'd be far better off having a nice press release written explaining that she will perform as an independent - and why, and selling on iTunes, her own website, and via indie distribution.

i could have sold 1325 for her. i wonder what the contract looks like.

f the majors.
 
Posted by Trouble on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 5:44 PM
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Big Steve!
Steven McDaniels

 
Akeelah should just do her thing. Fuck Atlantic! Why does she want to be apart of an industry that doesn't respect the image that she wants to promote? Why is a small buzz in Chicago not good enough for her? She should build herself up on a local level by being true to herself. Because that will allow her to build a solid fanbase, who will truly adore her sound, and this will allow her to grow in popularity, incrementally over a period of time. Hey it worked with Outkast..........I think!
 
Posted by Big Steve! on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 10:04 PM
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Cole

 
i'm still trying to recover from the picture of Lil' Kim....my girl got some serious self-hating issues going on....yikes...
 
Posted by Cole on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 10:21 PM
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Doug Evans

 
Where's Oprah ????
 
Posted by Doug Evans on Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 2:18 AM
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Night

 
Considering the success of High School the Musical, fiddys drop in sales and sales of hip hop music in general, you would think that genius at Atlantic would be open to a new approach.
Kudos to Keke's parents
 
Posted by Night on Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 2:23 AM
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Tim
Tim Lolcat

 
Co-signed~~

"High School Musical" was the first thought that came to mind for me, too: chaste sells!

I'm glad Keke and her parents stuck by their principles.

With talent like hers, I'm sure she'll end up with the last laugh. Maybe not tomorrow...but the day after tomorrow =)
 
Posted by Tim on Sunday, October 14, 2007 - 9:06 PM
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a-one

 
I hadn't heard of this situation before. I hate what the label is putting her & her family through but I love that they aren't giving in. There is a market for what Keke is doing & so many parents who would be more than happy to put up the money to buy thier kids a CD by a "regular" young black female siger who isn't slutting it up.

But Atlantic is a horrible label for black music. They have been for some time. Look at this young ladys situation. Her album basially sells itself but because she's not "black enough" they're not gonna even help her out.
 
Posted by a-one on Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 6:23 AM
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AHHA !NK

 
I'd just encourage Keke Palmer to go independent. Fuck the majors! Let 'em burn!!!
 
Posted by AHHA !NK on Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 6:32 PM
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DJ Indiana Jones

 
sounds like mikey been slippin and slidin with trick daddy and trina a little too much!
 
Posted by DJ Indiana Jones on Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 7:01 PM
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Blunted Viewz Media !!!!
BLunted viewz ATx

 
So All the sudden URBAN means .. hoochie, ignorant, hoe, stupid, ... as if there is nothing but in the inner city ... who said she was urban what a bunch of nonsense.. "Hey guess what kids remember the lilttle girl from the spelling move".. she's the new Lindsay Lohan " .. oh wait even she waited till 18 to start lookin well ya'll know... URBAN means ..from the city .. thats it .. that could include anyone.. It doesn't mean Streetwalker.OR Rapper. English isn't hard to understand. is she even from the inner or that just these weak ass record lables not wanting to come up w anything original .. I guess if they spent a little bit of they billions on artist development or listened to the lyrics .. ooh no u might have to actually do yo job.. I'll gladly do it . F%$K a label Keep it Independent ...!!! Oh and can ya'll get off the block , quit sellin dope to ya Auntie .. and then tryna blame it on the GOV.. stop giving them fuel for they fire . And woman stop actin like S&*ts, and paving the path for these young girls. like our daughters to be victims of the perverts, and pedifyles.. Uh Wait thats who runs the labels .. I like my job as a parent , I know it always comes with a challenge and a choice.. I'm glad I answer to a higher power something that man can not touch . oh is this article even true or is this a way to get promotions w/o makin it obvious .. and LIL KIM WASNT GIMMICK SHE WAS SURE PROUD OF HER HOE-NESS AND RAW W IT . THATS GROWN FOLKS MUSIC IT AINT FOR KIDS . ITS UP TO THE PARENTS .and the public figures who supposedly stand for the "URBAN " community ..iE KEVIN LILES, RUSSEL SIMMONS, ETC... CHILDREN R A GIFT FROM JAH!.. PEACE.
???????? THE LIONESS!!!!!!
 
Posted by Blunted Viewz Media !!!! on Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 8:58 PM
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Outwest Recordz

 
Thanks 2 Davey D!

This is some straight up bullsh*t...

It absolutely sickens me how these people operate. I've spent 15 of my 34 years in the music industry, so I've seen alot...but for some reason this really got to me. Are you telling me sales are trending so far down, Atlantic has to turn-out a 14yr old girl?! Right on to KeKe (and her parents) for having morals and self-pride and not goin' for this okie-doke! Obviously, this also says that corporatized white supremacy is still in full effect--she's "urban" so it's O.K. to make this young lady a ho?

On the business tip, there are several things in play here...Keke and her camp are in a pickle; if they walk and let the CD die on the vine, she'll be stuck in a contract w/ Atlantic PLUS she will owe the label money. If, somehow, the CD started to sell in decent quantities, then those f*ckers at Atlantic get paid...on a project they didn't even want to promote! To top it off, they'll claim she still owes $$ to the label, meaning no royalties. Where's Disney Channel when you need 'em?

The best bet here is to organize at the roots; call in Sharpton and pull a JENA 6 on that ass (basically, embarrass Atlantic into promoting the record OR RELEASE HER from her contract). Let's do this!

Sidewayz,

J.Fresh
www.outwestrecordz.com
 
Posted by Outwest Recordz on Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 9:41 PM
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SUPER-MAN LUVA

 
WHY DO YOU MOTHA FUCKAZ INSIST ON PUTTING HIP HOP AND R&B IN THE SAME CATEGORY

THEY ARE TO DIFFERENT THINGZ IDIOTZ

P.S. THIS IS FOUL
 
Posted by SUPER-MAN LUVA on Sunday, October 14, 2007 - 8:58 AM
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Slim Sniper aka South London's Finest
Slim Sniper

 
Unfortunately this is the norm. I have been working inconsistantly in this industry for years and you see this kind of thing regularly.
I'm sure we all remember simultaneous equations in school. Well this problem needs to be addressed in the same way. The labels need to inject some morals into their decisions and think about the long term results of the what they put out. We also need to ensure that we start to carry ourselves in a certain way. It is easy for us to say the labels are bad but they wouldn't step to us with such an offer if we as a community hadn't shown that we had the potential to engage in such a thing.
 
Posted by Slim Sniper aka South London's Finest on Monday, October 15, 2007 - 4:14 AM
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Heron

 
American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This
ur·bane (ûr-b--n') Pronunciation Key
adj. ur·ban·er, ur·ban·est
Polite, refined, and often elegant in manner.

Pop/R&B or Urban/Hip Hop. Plastic psuedo soul or pornographic trap music?

Urban music should be for adults like Sir Duke Ellington. Not for children. If you look at what the word urban means by way of its adjective urbane it is obvious. Refinement is a quality of adults, not children. But there is nothing refined in this "product" being served up to impressionable minds.

That being said, the music Duke Ellington made is perfect for everybody. Respect to the young girl's parents for doing their job! It doesn't matter how many units she sells, the girl's a success already.
 
Posted by Heron on Monday, October 15, 2007 - 11:31 AM
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Storm Rydah™ a.k.a. George Burnz-Sumptries
Ashé Shango y Oshun

 
That's just sad. You know, I remember Stacy Latissaw from back in the early 80's. She had a wholesome image and sang like ain't nobody's business. I was only a pre-teen then... but, for me, her music still marks that "puppy love" stage I went through when I was young. Had they marketed Stacy as Vanity 6... well... that would have ruined the whole appeal. Stacy's music was some of the best of that era. Granted, she was not in the hip hop market (as if there even was a market for that then)... but she sang some awesome R&B. They are actually classics in my book.

What's sad here is that these folks think that this young lady HAS to be a "hoochie" in order to sell. Shame on you, Atlantic Records. That's sum bullshyt, man. I s'pose what has to HAPPEN is that we should spread the word and help her hook up to the RIGHT labels, my 2 cents.
 
Posted by Storm Rydah™ a.k.a. George Burnz-Sumptries on Monday, October 15, 2007 - 6:53 PM
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Cole

 
Ooooooh.....major flashback to the black and white photo with the pink lipstick! Stacy Lattisaw is from the days when there were almost no black people on mainstream TV and i believed i would never live to see a black president.

Oh, we've come so far. Or have we?

Back in the day, when i was young....i'm not a kid anymore....
 
Posted by Cole on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 12:14 PM
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Storm Rydah™ a.k.a. George Burnz-Sumptries
Ashé Shango y Oshun

 
Yeah, singing grown folk music to everyone. How many people didn't turn and use her songs as marriage songs? Probably as many as the ones who used Atlantic Starr's "Always" record.
 
Posted by Storm Rydah™ a.k.a. George Burnz-Sumptries on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 11:51 AM
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Cos Seven

 
Thats why the labels are gonna crash like world trade towers, The iniquity of these execs to try to turn a 14 year old girl into an "urban" sex symbol is enough to justify extreme punishment. Beyond this being an example of the problem with the record industry its an example of the problem with parents and society today. What the hell is a 14 year old child doing trying to be a recording artist? She shouldnt be subjected to all this rigamerole. She should be learning science math and a foreign language and if she is she should be doing it more.
 
Posted by Cos Seven on Monday, October 15, 2007 - 9:33 PM
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Heron

 
I disagree completely. Everybody should not be trained to go to college and be middle class. She is mad talented! She should be making records. I'm ignorant about the music business so maybe I can't appreciate what you mean by rigmarole, but I try to think not only in terms of how it is, but also in terms of how it needs to be.

I do agree that these execs should be held to the fire. Look at how they rep themselves as middle men. They say they don't interfere with the artists and they don't interfere with the audience. They just bring them together right? Liars! Why can't they get behind this girl and support her in making the music that she can and wants to make?

Answer: She's got a few lady humps on her body now.

Human beings come to knowledge naturally, especially when they are gifted. This girl just needs love and support and feedback.

Peace
 
Posted by Heron on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 8:02 PM
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Storm Rydah™ a.k.a. George Burnz-Sumptries
Ashé Shango y Oshun

 
College is not a bad place to be. I studied what I was given but still used OTHER books to balance the crazy shyt they were trying to sell me in certain classes like history. She should make her music, but her education should NEVER be chucked. One never knows what will happen when the market turns and she goes the route of other singers. Stacy was a singer for awhile, but eventually her fan base went bye bye and she went to go rear a family. While a family is a wonderful thing... no one should tell this sista to skip out on self-empowerment via the educational system... and then end up with less options.
 
Posted by Storm Rydah™ a.k.a. George Burnz-Sumptries on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 11:44 AM
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Heron

 
I'm not downing college per se. But there is a dogma that you are a failure if you don't have a degree. I teach at two colleges. One is a Private college where the tuition is 28K the other is a state school where the tuition is less than half of that. Many people are there because they are "supposed to be". People really need to be driven for that degree and/or for that knowledge. a lot of people are leaving college with debt, a drinking problem and no degree.

Another thing that I hate to say, but its true, is that many of us Black people do not support our fam in college. I got a very gifted Black woman who feels invisible in her hood. Brothers see her body and they step to her, but she opens her educated mouth and they step back. She already has a rep for being smart and that doesn't get her more gentleman callers.

My point is that God blessed each and every one of us with gifts that take time and effort to develop. We need a variety of institutions to grow people into successes. College is good for well grounded, family supported people with clear objectives. I'm just saying it shouldn't be a default.
 
Posted by Heron on Thursday, October 25, 2007 - 1:13 PM
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Cos Seven

 
Im sayin that yeah she should continue to develop as a singer or whatever else she can do but until she has developed a certain fortitude where she can stand as a powerful mind with a spiritual constitution against label demons on her own then she should be protected by her family and community. She is still a child. She can sing without being a label whore and in this day that virtually all there is. Let her record songs and sell or give them to those who want them.

The problem today is that "black" people dont have the propoer perspective. So what she can sing and act. The avenues to wealth with that are controlled and patrolled by those who want to strip search her if you will.

Obviously, otherwise we wouldnt be having this discussion.
 
Posted by Cos Seven on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 3:31 PM
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Heron

 
So your basic point is that she can develop her art, but she should not be exposed to the beast. I can see that. Uhmm, there's a lot of her stuff on You Tube. It's real good!! I'm thinking about Stevie Wonderful and Michael Jackson. Mad talented as youths and bringing mad light to many people, but I think its pretty clear that Mike was damaged goods (maybe more by his fam than the bizness). Again though her fam is so committed. Her web site talks about how they moved from Chi town suburbs to LA to support her art. Left their jobs and really risked it for their child to shine. Stevie musta had lots a love and protection. I wonder how he could write songs like Ribbon in the Sky, like he could see! i don't know, but I feel it was his family loving him and being his eyes. We gotta be like that
 
Posted by Heron on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 5:43 PM
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Marcus

 
That is a case of soliciting child porn and it's grounds for suing the company into releasing her from her contract. These conservative judges are fed up with the raunchiness and may very well side with this admirable young lady's stand.
 
Posted by Marcus on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 10:57 AM
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Heron

 
That would be a beautiful thing if the institutions of justice actually worked to protect the innocent and restrain the predators (most unchecked ones are the corporate ones), but we doubt this and I hear you expressing a wish more than an expectation.

I bought the young lady's album last night. Probably give it for a Christmas present to one of my girl cousins. That's my little activism.
 
Posted by Heron on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 6:28 PM
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Marcus

 
That sounds a little defeatist. They have to try something. Unless anyone has a better idea, it might as well be that.
 
Posted by Marcus on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 2:09 AM
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Heron

 
Peace Brother Marcus,

I've been thinking about this thing a lot. Tell me what you think about this: On November 2 we are closing our wallets and pocket books to send a message to the nation about the Jena 6 in particular and the unfair treatment of Black and Brown people in the legal system in general. That's called the Black Out. We still gotta spread the word on that. Some people are saying we should extend that to ensure an impact: Nov1-3.

What if we could pick a day to buy Keke Palmer's record? Unfortunately she is still under contract so much of that money would go to Atlantic, but if a significant number of units moved it would really send a message to the label and strengthen her hand whenever she gets to renegotiate her contract.

What would be really fresh is if people bought her record in mass on those three days, and bought nothing else. That would say that we had could actually control where our money goes.

I know its not the best solution. The best solution is getting her off that label completely and supporting her and other artists independently. But she's already legally binded.

Tell me what you feel.
 
Posted by Heron on Thursday, October 25, 2007 - 1:48 PM
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Marcus

 
That's sounds like a great idea. I baught a couple copies and gave them to my little niece and her friend, so i'll just keep copping them whenever I can and give them out. I can also get at Micheal Baizden and Tom Joyner. They brought much attention to the Jena 6 so they can do the same to promote this girl and expose Atlantic Rocords. Again, good looking on that idea. You can't really hear my tone of voice when reading my post so I hope I didn't come off as abrasive.
 
Posted by Marcus on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 9:44 PM
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DNG

 
Disgusting as I read this.
 
Posted by DNG on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 7:09 AM
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DNG

 
Wonder if there's gonna come a congressional hearing about label executives/ A'nR's and their maffia tactics. But nope, instead of that Washington only but the artists on blast.
 
Posted by DNG on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 7:31 AM
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Heron

 
Check out Breakdown FM, Davey has some of those liars up there in front of Congress acting like everybody else is in control of the music they put out.

You got a good idea there. Don't even call the artists. Congress should put the focus squarely on the execs (radio and record) and turn this lack of balance issue into what it really is a civil rights issue. Media consolidation has been devastating to poor people.
 
Posted by Heron on Thursday, October 25, 2007 - 1:35 PM
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mimi

 
Maybe it is time to contact: http://www.commercialfreechildhood.org/ to support Keke and protest Atlantic Records!. We love this actress. She is talented and a great role model for young girls. Mike Caren and those like him are part of the problem. Would he want his 12 year old girl pimped out? I hope not, and if no, maybe he will have some backbone to do the right thing. IMO, independence is the way to go. If Keke is that talented, I think she will prevail. That way she can control her image and her future!
 
Posted by mimi on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 4:17 PM
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Vinny

 
One of the biggest mistakes record labels made in the early 90's was to fire almost all of the black A&R reps. Back in the day you had separate A&R folks. A brother for the black music and a white dude for the white artist. Due to budget cuts, lots of African Americans were fired from those positions and all of the sudden these white dudes like Mike Caren knew everything about black artists. When I was in radio and lot of good people in the record business got screwed. If you think back to the time when all of these changes took place, that’s when the music went down hill. When did urban stand for negative? Frankie Crocker came up with the phrase ‘Urban Contemporary’ back at WBLS and it had classiness to it then. It’s sad that they did this to her, It’s a damn shame, but nothing new. Back in the 80’s Atlantic signed Johnny Gill when he was a teenager and didn’t know how to promote him due to his mature voice. Maybe she can get the hookup from Clive Davis and J Records, but now she’s going to have to take a loss and record new material.
 
Posted by Vinny on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 8:40 PM
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DNG

 
@God's Child.
Don't you think the artists that put out the violent lyrics have to deal with the same
label politics Akeelah has to deal with?
I believe company's do have certain artists in a choke hold meaning that rappers/singers could bring out something positive and are talented enough to do so, but uplifiting material isn't paying the bills at this moment. David Banner explained a situation where he wanted to do such, but the label kind of refused the promote that material in the same way they promoted his "vulgair" material. It's not that the public doesn't want to HEAR/BUY/SUPPORT positive music. The public just isn't being offered as much positive music as we'd like to.
Who do you think they're aiming at when marketing urban music, 30+ year olds? Naah, young'uns who'll follow and buy whatever is hot at this moment. They hardly take time to search for alternative music. And who decide's what the trend is, the artists or the ones (A&R's etc) that bring the music to the public? At the end of the day, it's the label that decides how many $$$ will be pushed in promoting such and such artists. Wouldn't say that the artists are completely innocent in this matter by defending the so called "black experience", but the power of corporate America and its mighty dollar$ is bigger than the rapper with a mic in his hand. Sad, but true.
 
Posted by DNG on Thursday, October 25, 2007 - 7:34 AM
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Cos Seven

 
What is involved with the music industry on a logistic level; a level of material? manufacturing and distribution. Are blacks in hollywood and athletics bound to some sort of legal clause that prohibits them from certain business activity? Why dont ALL so called "black" entertainers establish a co-op entertainment complex where there are studios stores theaters trucks drivers actors singers directors producers rappers and so on you get the image.

Why dont we just buy this girls album from her mom? We need to rise up and establish our own. Fuck all this cryin' We can do this shit so easy. All we gotta do is support those who have started already. Work with and for them and we get stronger. We can all add on.
 
Posted by Cos Seven on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 5:05 PM
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Cos Seven

 
But on the real, shes already being marketed sexually. On her website I see her legs and her bed. Its all suggestive in the male mind. She may be singin innocuous lyrics but inherent in the marketing is sexual connotation and thats why I say she shouldnt even be IN that industry at 14. Not til shes legally an adult.
 
Posted by Cos Seven on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 5:09 PM
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24/7 Ent.™

 
Industry Rule Number Four Thousand and Eighty......
 
Posted by 24/7 Ent.™ on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 9:10 PM
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Marcus

 
@ Heron

That's sounds like a great idea. I baught a couple copies and gave them to my little niece and her friend, so i'll just keep copping them whenever I can and give them out. I can also get at Micheal Baizden and Tom Joyner. They brought much attention to the Jena 6 so they can do the same to promote this girl and expose Atlantic Rocords. Again, good looking on that idea. You can't really hear my tone of voice when reading my post so I hope I didn't come off as abrasive.
 
Posted by Marcus on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 9:46 PM
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Heron

 
Sorry I didn't get back sooner, just been busy with my daily grind.

That would be great if you could get that idea to talk radio. Next pay check I'm gonna get a couple more copies of the record.

Each one protest some
Let's get our kids free
 
Posted by Heron on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 9:05 PM
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K-Salaam & Beatnick

 
This is disgusting. I agree, we have to expose these things like we did the Jena 6. Thank you Davey D for posting this. We have to take the next stop to make sure this doesn't happen again and get worse. What's next next? An 8-year old Black girl in a thong? That's not really a stretch at this point. This is sick...

K-SALAAM
 
Posted by K-Salaam & Beatnick on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 5:34 PM
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Marcus

 
This is worst than some of Daveyd's April Fool's jokes.
 
Posted by Marcus on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 11:17 PM
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