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Friday, January 04, 2008 
If these fools keep moving in this direction I say stop buying music from any major label artist. I say start supporting independent cats and let the industry crumble. No wonder we have such mayhem in the industry when you have decision making like this at hand..

RIAA SAYS ITS ILLEGAL TO MAKE PERSONAL COPIES OF YOUR CDS
By Marc Fisher

Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, December 30, 2007; Page M05

Despite more than 20,000 lawsuits filed against music fans in the years since they started finding free tunes online rather than buying CDs from record companies, the recording industry has utterly failed to halt the decline of the record album or the rise of digital music sharing.

Still, hardly a month goes by without a news release from the industry's lobby, the Recording Industry Association of America, touting a new wave of letters to college students and others demanding a settlement payment and threatening a legal battle.

Now, in an unusual case in which an Arizona recipient of an RIAA letter has fought back in court rather than write a check to avoid hefty legal fees, the industry is taking its argument against music sharing one step further: In legal documents in its federal case against Jeffrey Howell, a Scottsdale, Ariz., man who kept a collection of about 2,000 music recordings on his personal computer, the industry maintains that it is illegal for someone who has legally purchased a CD to transfer that music into his computer.

The industry's lawyer in the case, Ira Schwartz, argues in a brief filed earlier this month that the MP3 files Howell made on his computer from legally bought CDs are "unauthorized copies" of copyrighted recordings.

"I couldn't believe it when I read that," says Ray Beckerman, a New York lawyer who represents six clients who have been sued by the RIAA. "The basic principle in the law is that you have to distribute actual physical copies to be guilty of violating copyright. But recently, the industry has been going around saying that even a personal copy on your computer is a violation."

RIAA's hard-line position seems clear. Its Web site says: "If you make unauthorized copies of copyrighted music recordings, you're stealing. You're breaking the law and you could be held legally liable for thousands of dollars in damages."

They're not kidding. In October, after a trial in Minnesota -- the first time the industry has made its case before a federal jury -- Jammie Thomas was ordered to pay $220,000 to the big record companies. That's $9,250 for each of 24 songs she was accused of sharing online.

Whether customers may copy their CDs onto their computers -- an act at the very heart of the digital revolution -- has a murky legal foundation, the RIAA argues. The industry's own Web site says that making a personal copy of a CD that you bought legitimately may not be a legal right, but it "won't usually raise concerns," as long as you don't give away the music or lend it to anyone.

Of course, that's exactly what millions of people do every day. In a Los Angeles Times poll, 69 percent of teenagers surveyed said they thought it was legal to copy a CD they own and give it to a friend. The RIAA cites a study that found that more than half of current college students download music and movies illegally.

The Howell case was not the first time the industry has argued that making a personal copy from a legally purchased CD is illegal. At the Thomas trial in Minnesota, Sony BMG's chief of litigation, Jennifer Pariser, testified that "when an individual makes a copy of a song for himself, I suppose we can say he stole a song." Copying a song you bought is "a nice way of saying 'steals just one copy,' " she said.

But lawyers for consumers point to a series of court rulings over the last few decades that found no violation of copyright law in the use of VCRs and other devices to time-shift TV programs; that is, to make personal copies for the purpose of making portable a legally obtained recording.

As technologies evolve, old media companies tend not to be the source of the innovation that allows them to survive. Even so, new technologies don't usually kill off old media: That's the good news for the recording industry, as for the TV, movie, newspaper and magazine businesses. But for those old media to survive, they must adapt, finding new business models and new, compelling content to offer.

The RIAA's legal crusade against its customers is a classic example of an old media company clinging to a business model that has collapsed. Four years of a failed strategy has only "created a whole market of people who specifically look to buy independent goods so as not to deal with the big record companies," Beckerman says. "Every problem they're trying to solve is worse now than when they started."

The industry "will continue to bring lawsuits" against those who "ignore years of warnings," RIAA spokesman Jonathan Lamy said in a statement. "It's not our first choice, but it's a necessary part of the equation. There are consequences for breaking the law." And, perhaps, for firing up your computer.
Cole

 
They'll have to pry my iPod outta the hand of my dead corpse.
 
Posted by Cole on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 4:39 PM
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MsBeatJunkie

 
Right! And my original Dilla CD's are on the shelf while I listen to the copies I made...not gonna sratch up my Dilla joints...and plus when people borrow stuff, you don't get it back especially music...so copies it is!!!!
 
Posted by MsBeatJunkie on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 10:27 PM
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Cleo is working it out . . .
Cleopatra Stewart

 
i know that's right cole - lol

new technology vs. old game still in the dark ages. who are these ppl anyway? anybody with common sense could see this coming - and this is their response? what they gonna do - sue eveybody? crazy wack shit. i WILL have my music damnit!!!!
 
Posted by Cleo is working it out . . . on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 11:12 PM
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Trouble

 
Is RIAA trying to kill itself (and the artists it reps?)

Let me get this straight. A guy bought a CD, copied it to his PC, and now he's stealing? So, I suppose, the RIAA doesn't want people who like music to be able to put the music on their mp3 players / iPods / iPhones, etc... Sounds like a good reason to not buy music, then.

If I were Apple, et al, I'd be putting in a call to RIAA real fast.

There is an easier way for the music industry to make more money. Sales are down because the marketing of quality music is down. Hello recording industry and artists.... computers and the internet are your friend. You're going to cut off the hand that's going to feed you...

Grow the pie, dumbasses.
 
Posted by Trouble on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 4:53 PM
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MsBeatJunkie

 
i agree as well
 
Posted by MsBeatJunkie on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 10:29 PM
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Baby_Girl

 
i agree...well stated
 
Posted by Baby_Girl on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 3:04 AM
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JukeB[]x

 
These folks are really goin' too far now.

1. The funds the RIAA recovers don't even go to the artists.

2. Backing up your media has been OK legally for quite some time (see VCRs)

3. They're gonna witness a huge backlash.

I haven't bought a major-label CD for myself in (maybe) 2 or 3 years. Not only will I keep it that way...I will stop buying major-label CDs for friends and family as gifts. From now on, I will only buy direct from an artist's website, or buy USED CDs online. Fuck the RIAA.
 
Posted by JukeB[]x on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 4:55 PM
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Mrs. Markham

 
While this is also my tack for now, the RIAA has other plans for this strategy. They want you to pay a royalty for using what they call their "patent on recording things".
This is the hangup with internet radio.
I think someone should start investigating the RIAA monopoly on recorded music.
 
Posted by Mrs. Markham on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 7:10 PM
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DJ RENEE
Susan Djrenee Boudreaux

 
I agree with all of you, this is bullsh*t!!! They would rather go after starving college students then figure out a better marketing strategy. As a DJ and former radio personality, I can tell you one thing that will work over night. STOP trying to make people like what you want them to like. This is a country full of individual thinkers. You may fool a few teenagers for a little while but eventually they wake up and realize that a lot of music you are putting out is complete trash. They are lucky that the few folks who they are trying to sue are actually buying CDs. I can't tell you the last time I bought a CD from a major label artist. I don't support that because I know that MOST artists aren't getting any real money off of the CDs anyway. But I will support the artists or their individual companies or concerts because at least then I know they are getting their just dues.

You can't stop growth. Its time for the music business to get with the times. If they push, the public will just push back harder. F**k a CD, MP3 Player or anything else. I'll just subscribe to Sirrus and listen to what I want to(yeah I know that the labels get their royalities from them but hey so do the artists and producers). And, like a previous viewer said, I will just continue to buy music from Independent artists....there are soooooo many good and great ones out there in every genre.

I don't know about yall but I have long since been tired of hearing the same 15 songs in 1 1/2 hour rotation on Hip/Hop radio nationwide. Like Peety Green said....well I won't ruin it for yall. For all you real music lovers and realist out there check out the movie "Talk To Me". You take it back to the old skool like that and the music industry will see a definite change.....radio and television.

DJ Renee,
Baton Rouge, LA
 
Posted by DJ RENEE on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 5:13 PM
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Mike Brown the REMIX

 
"Talk To Me" was a great film... too bad too many people slept on it. :(
 
Posted by Mike Brown the REMIX on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 5:32 PM
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I Believe In Me
Adrian O Neal

 
They are just shooting themselves in the foot. This is a great article as it shows the silliness of those "suits" who are allegedly "protecting" the interests of the artists. The example used about the RIAA clinging to an old business model definitely summed up the reasoning behind this foolishness. They need to face the fact that the Internet has changed the music purchasing landscape for good. Those major labels need to invest more in making quality music than continuing to expect the consumer to waste money on garbage music. The fact of the matter is, unless the prices of CD's goes down, people will continue to purchase quality music online. Get with the program, RIAA!

Great post as usual, Davey!
 
Posted by I Believe In Me on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 5:17 PM
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Queen Kandi Cole

 
I'm waiting for them to start charging us royalty dollars for reciting our favorite artists' lyrics in public. BASTARDS!
 
Posted by Queen Kandi Cole on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 5:33 PM
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DJ RENEE
Susan Djrenee Boudreaux

 
LMAO....real talk they probably will start doing that shit.
 
Posted by DJ RENEE on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 10:08 PM
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Aaron

 
If the "suits" are sitting behind their desks and thinking up these brilliant "steps" they will soon find they may get "pushed" down the stairs!
 
Posted by Aaron on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 7:06 PM
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DJ RENEE
Susan Djrenee Boudreaux

 
ROFL.....you a fool for that one.
 
Posted by DJ RENEE on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 10:09 PM
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THòT Process --- CD OUT NOW www.theTHoTprocess.com

 
I agree with everything being said here... the RIAA needs to stop hammering in these "steps" that aren't working.

But here's what I ask of you guys (cause I don't know the answer): what should the RIAA be doing? What is the solution to this issue? Are they just being greedy or are they trying to hold up a firm line so that music doesn't become totally free?

Good post.
 
Posted by THòT Process --- CD OUT NOW www.theTHoTprocess.com on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 7:41 PM
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Author of My Own Horoscope

 
Wow. They're really desperate now huh? hahahaha. Enforcing this will never work.
 
Posted by Author of My Own Horoscope on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 8:05 PM
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Divino DeNegro - Rise Up Radio - WBAI 99.5 FM
Divino DeNegro

 
word is bond
 
Posted by Divino DeNegro - Rise Up Radio - WBAI 99.5 FM on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 11:56 PM
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Tha real..$TAK-A-DOLLAH

 
THE RIAA, CAN KEEP ON FUCKIN UP, THAT MEAN$ ITZ BETTER, 4 U$ INDEPENDENT ARTI$T, 2 SLANG OUR SHIT OUT THA TRUNK, FUCK PAYIN THESE RACIST PUNKZ BILLS, ANYWAY SLANGIN CD'S HAVE BEEN, THA NEW DOPE GAME 4 YEAR'S YA DIGG FUCK EM.
 
Posted by Tha real..$TAK-A-DOLLAH on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 8:26 PM
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Tha real..$TAK-A-DOLLAH

 
THE RIAA, CAN KEEP ON FUCKIN UP, THAT MEAN$ ITZ BETTER, 4 U$ INDEPENDENT ARTI$T, 2 SLANG OUR SHIT OUT THA TRUNK, FUCK PAYIN THESE RACIST PUNKZ BILLS, ANYWAY SLANGIN CD'S HAVE BEEN, THA NEW DOPE GAME 4 YEAR'S YA DIGG FUCK EM.
 
Posted by Tha real..$TAK-A-DOLLAH on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 8:26 PM
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Sue's doin just fine
Sue Tompkins

 
i read the post article, and we all know this is bullshit.

who sues their own customers cause they don't like what the customer does with the product? their punk lawyers don't want to mess with Apple, Winapp and Microsoft who make all this possible, cause they know these co's would tie them up in the court for years, and win the case in the end - so they decide to sue some of us as a fear tactic. just an example of an old business operation that don't know they have already lost what they used to take for granted.

they say they are "protecting" the artists, but we and the artists know that's a lie. that so called "protection" has drawn up almost 400 new legal contracts for the artists to sign so they can get more $$'s from tours and merchandise.
 
Posted by Sue's doin just fine on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 8:06 AM
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DJ RENEE
Susan Djrenee Boudreaux

 
YOU HIT THAT SH*T right on the head!!! They have never went after any manufactuer. Not just the ones you mentioned but what about Sony and others who make CD-R/DVD-R copiers? Shouldn't they check to see what the person is doing with those machines when they buy them? Why aren't they busting the folks out in Japan and China? I heard they had a little crackdown on some illegal sales being made in the Middle East but lets just be real here. What is the reason behind this sh*t...the real reason. I mean they have only cracked down on 20,000? If they were serious, that should be more like 10million or better over the last few years. This is a farce. I wish it would make it into mainstream media so this can be discussed. I have yet to see a serious discussion about this on CNN, Dateline NBC, 20/20 or 60 minutes. And I probably never will. No wonder rappers are pirating their own shit and selling it on the streets. Talkin about the shit was leaked....yeah right. Dem folks just trying to get they ends cause they know the labels ain't about them at all.

DJ Renee
 
Posted by DJ RENEE on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 4:12 PM
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TwinDog

 
RIAA RECORDING INDUSTRY ASSHOLE ASSOCIATION
THIS IS A DESPERATE ATTEMPT FROM THE POWERS THAT BE, MISSING
THAT MIGHTY DOLLAR BEING STOLEN FROM BLACK ARTISTS ANYWAY,
MILLION DOLLAR MARKETING, AND PROMOTION, EQUALS RICH WHITEMAN
BROKE BLACK ARTIST...
LOOK AT WHATS GOING ON TO KEEP THOSE SAME ARTIST BROKE.
IT'S SAD THAT THIS IS'NT A JOKE,
IF EVERY BLACK ARTIST OR FAN WAS ASKED IF THIS WAS GOOD DECISION,
AND THIER VOICES COUNTED FOR SOMETHING BESIDES MONEY,
I DONT THINK THIS WOULD BE THE ROUTE WE WOULD TAKE.
I'LL JUST SIT BACK AND WATCH A PREDICTION I MADE ABOUT THE INDUSTRY COME TO LIFE NOW.... AND I URGE ANY NEW ARTISTS WHO THESE MAJOR LABELS WANNA SIGN
IF THE OFFER YOU ANYTHING LESS THAN 2 MILLION DOLLARS TO SIGN, TELL THEM TO KISS
YA MAJOR ASS.........
 
Posted by TwinDog on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 9:19 PM
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Seven Chakraz (7C)

 
BE CAREFUL HOMIE!
SOMEONE MIGHT GET AT YOU ABOUT PLAGIARIZING THAT ARTICLE!
 
Posted by Seven Chakraz (7C) on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 6:12 AM
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ghettoManga Mixtape

 
sigh...
i buy major label records very, very infrequently... i imagine it's only gonna get worse.
 
Posted by ghettoManga Mixtape on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 10:08 PM
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Joseph

 
There are so many middle class and rich kids doing this, we're all safe for a while. They're just bluffing to see what kind of numbers show up in response to it. Ignore it, and continue ripping away.
 
Posted by Joseph on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 10:13 AM
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Marcus X....the big designah!!!
Marcus Smith

 
In my opinion, the bottom lines are money and protecting the status quo. They see the internet, digital music, and mp3 players as the end of their world. They are doin nothin but savin their profits for record company execs, not payin royalties for well deserved artists. A greedy punk move indeed.
 
Posted by Marcus X....the big designah!!! on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 2:50 AM
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BROTHERRAHIM.BLOGSPOT.COM

 
yo, Davey, this is evidence that the industry is crumbling!
 
Posted by BROTHERRAHIM.BLOGSPOT.COM on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 10:10 PM
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The State of Hip Hop

 
Good Idea...if this keeps up I have no problem not buying from the majors. I already don't.

This is going on my news section for sure!
 
Posted by The State of Hip Hop on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 2:59 PM
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