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Gender: Male
Status: Single
Age: 31
Sign: Aries

City: Los Angeles
State: California
Country: US
Signup Date: 2/16/2007

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Tuesday, May 01, 2007 

Current mood:  disappointed
Friends,

Many of you are probably wondering what happened to the Obama profile. The campaign, with the help of Myspace, have seized control of the profile without my consent, and are using it to refer traffic to a new profile they created. I have been blocked from having access to the profile. The campaign will probably have a different perspective on the events leading up to this, but until my personal profile is deleted, I'm going to take a stand on this. I believe what they did is just wrong, and someone should say something.

Here is an email I sent to Micah at techpresident.com. Any questions, let me know:



Thanks Micah,

I want to be careful about this, but also I think it's unfair that they deleted this community when they could have left it up as an unofficial fan site as it has been for the last two and a half years. The campaign may say that this was my decision, and this is not true.

I did want to be paid, if we were to continue working together . This was not an attempt to use this profile for commercial purposes. This was an attempt to keep working my ass off on this profile, for Barack Obama, and for the enormous community of supporters on Myspace.

Since January, as you may know, and as many in the Myspace community know, I've been working on the page around the clock. I started this profile in November of 2004 and it grew steadily since then. In January and February the media started to notice, and I began to work even harder because I reallized what an impact the Myspace could really have.

People were actually registering to vote, making contributions, asking questions, putting banners on their pages, etc. I know this because I constantly received emails about this, and I replied to every single one to thank them or point them in the right direction if they needed more information.

The campaign got involved in February and although at first it was very exciting, it quickly became clear that they just had no interest in me or my involvement. They only wanted to take control of the profile and get on with it. I bit the bullet for a while and kept working for the good of the campaign, but they quickly went from passive aggressive, to aggressive, and then eventually just rotten and dishonest.

For the past few weeks, the campaign decided it would be better if they just took control of the profile and we decided to try to come to some agreement. By this time, I didn't have quite as much respect for the campaign guys, and frankly felt like I was just being used. They knew about this profile the entire time, and really just waited until it got enough media coverage and friends request so they could step in and bully me out of it.

The last few weeks were just insane. They kept scheduling phone conferences with me, I would wake up early that day after barely sleeping the night before, I'd take time off work, etc. and each after another would be postponed at the last minute. This went on for weeks.

It got to the point where I didn't feel comfortable turning the profile over to the campaign unless they paid for it. This was largely symbolic. The same campaign that inspired me to work so hard to build this community, the same campaign whose underlying message stresses "the power of the individual to have an impact on politics", was constantly downplaying my role in this, bullying me, and a couple of other things that were just rotten and dishonest (specifically in connection with Myspace, and the campaign quashing a recent NPR interview about the profile).

In a conversation with Chris from the campaign last week or the week before, Chris suggested a one-time fee to transfer over the profile to them and that they discussed this with Myspace and they were agreeable with any arrangement we could work out. He did not suggest how much, or what sort of a fee. He did say that he needed it by the next morning so we scheduled another meeting and I stayed up all night working on a proposal that I thought would be fair to everyone. This was a positive conversation and he seemed sincere enough.

That meeting finally happened yesterday. It was clear at that time that there was no "one-time fee". I felt like it was a bit of a setup so that they could have a reason to take the profile without my consent.

I was accused of using this profile for commercial purposes. I was threatened that I would be responsible if the profile was deleted (they even followed up via email to be sure I knew it was my fault!) The conversation really was about them taking control of the profile. There was no counter offer, or anything to suggest that they had any intention of paying me anything at all.

At this point there was no way I would turn this community over to them and would rather keep it as an unofficial site and keep doing what I've been doing. I expressed this, and they said that if I did not turn the profile over to them immediately, they would delete it and all of my hard work would go to waste. They reiterated this several times, and repeated "You are the one making the decision to kill this profile". In fact, I responded each time, that I have no plans to delete this profile, and that decision would be between them and Myspace. (I even added that he sounded like Bush telling congress/senate it was their decision not to fund the troops. How hypocritical is this!)

Finally, Chris from the campaign emailed me, indicating that Myspace needed my consent to give them access to the profile. I replied that Mypace did not have my consent to grant access to the profile to anyone.

An hour or so later, I was blocked from the profile and the content was altered to redirect traffic to the new, "Official" profile. Myspace has in fact granted access to the profile without my permission.

This was not about money and I don't believe that one person who has interacted with me via the Obama profile over the past couple of years would be able to say that my efforts were anything but sincere. This was about holding a campaign to their message, about acknowledging my work, and taking this community seriously.

I think I did the right thing. I wanted a fair outcome for everyone, but unfortunately that's not what happened. In fact, I think this was enormously offensive to both me and the Myspace community. I could understand Myspace/Newscorp doing this, but didn't think Obama's campaign could have the audacity to do such a thing.

Apparently the message here is, as an individual, if you have too big of an impact, you're just a liability.

This is how Obama lost my vote, and one of his strongest supporters.

Sincerely,

-Joe Anthony

p.s. Like I said, I'm passionate about this right now. All this work, all this progress is down the drain, and I'm absolutely heart-broken.
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Rose

 
This is down right awful.  I'm really disappointed in the campagin and it puts a bad taste for Obama out there.  Even though it is not <EM>his</EM> fault, these are people working for him and it reflects poorly.  Joe, you did not deserve this and I'm so sorry they have ruined your years of work here. 
 
Posted by Rose on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 6:43 PM
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Christian(tm)

 
<P>Compensation is definitely due and I'm confident that ultimately, you will be paid!</P><P>This story is now in the national headlines!</P>
 
Posted by Christian(tm) on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 5:54 AM
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carly
carly williams

 
HAHA this is funny stuff.  This is the first thing I know of that obama has accomplished.
 
Posted by carly on Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 3:31 AM
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Steve

 
It does not surprise me.  I have concluded that Obama is all hype and no substance. I don't know why people give him the "rock star" attention.  He's just another clueless child of privilege seeking votes.  I don't find his speaking particularly interesting or compelling--and certainly not "electrifying." 

This site provides a lot of interesting information:

http://www.obamatruth.org 

Obama's popularity indicates to me again how people will get caught up in what is trendy, regardless of its lack of merit.

 
Posted by Steve on Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 5:38 AM
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Ronald

 
<P>You're assuming it's the actions of his campaign and you may very well be correct. However, don't kid yourself.  In the same way people hold President Bush responsible for the actions of those in his administration, Sen. Obama should be responsible for the actions of his campaign workers.  Outrageous behavior on the part of the Senator and his team.</P><P>Campaigns are a machine driven primarily by raw ambition.  In that respect, there are no parties just politics.  Sen. Obama is no different...unfortunately.</P>
 
Posted by Ronald on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 7:21 PM
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cookie

 
I concur.  These people on his campaign will be political appointees.  It troubles me and he lost my vote.

 
Posted by cookie on Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 6:53 AM
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I tried to leave a r00d comment on both profiles but I got screened. Meh. This makes me so mad, even though Obama may have not been a presidential contender a few years ago, he was still known as a political presence, and his people should have had the foresight that anyone with a brain and internet access did, that MySpace was growing. Just because they didn't, you shouldn't have to suffer for their mistakes, especially since I KNOW you had the best of intentions.

Plus, from a myspace standpoint, wtf is the point of them taking over the page just to transfer the name to a different one? I know Obama is popular and all, but it will take time to rebuild all the friends and popularity of the original, which I'm assuming was a factor in the takeover.

IMHO, they keep proving time and time again what n00bs they are.

 
Posted by   on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 8:14 PM
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Joe Anthony
Joe Anthony

 
Thanks to both of you, I can't tell you how much I appreciate and really need your support right now.



 
Posted by Joe Anthony on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 8:24 PM
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Remember thats the party you support the party od the people so they say. The same party that shut you down, as a fellow American and ex demoncrat. Do more research on the roots of your party and where they really stand and leave the darkside. I feel bad for you and the work you have done they should have given you your cash you did pave there way.


 
Posted by on Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 1:40 AM
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Kat
Katy Baty

 
<P>This is such a negative impact on Baracks campaign and I'm very up set with his people!! This is my message to them!!!!</P><P> </P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> "What you are doing to Joe is really screwed up!! Barack is a community ORGANIZER not a community DESTROYER!!! This is going to impact his campaign very negatively. We are a very strong community and have been for a long time and for you to take that away is down right unjust and a disgrace to Barack and all he stands for!! All Joe was doing was promoting this campaign and this is how you reward him!! I hope you reconsider your actions and let us have a unofficial fan site for Barack…Joe never ever pretended to be Barack. He has been very honest!! When I first found the site he told me exactly who he was..Infact his site is how I learned to donate to Barack’s Campaign and start a profile on www.barackobama.com. Joes site is very valuable and should be rewarded not destroyed!!! Please let us keep our community…and please apologize to Joe for your mistake!!! "..:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></P>
 
Posted by Kat on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 11:29 PM
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Mike

 
The guy is running for President of the United States for crying out loud. This is such a trivial argument you are making.

Joe needs to be thanked for his service, even compensated if the campaign find it fit. Other than that, it should be the extent of it.
 
Posted by Mike on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 3:36 PM
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Jason

 

So because he is running for President its alright to alienate one of his biggest supporters? Its ok to treat people like crap when they have worked hard for you(for free)? Your a fool. This goes against everything that liar pretends he stands for! 

Joe I hope you get alot of press out of this and us it to tell people what Mr. Obama is really like.     


 
Posted by Jason on Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 12:59 AM
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Bob
Bob Smith

 
You're just plain wrong in you assessment Mike....I dislike dishonesty at any level.  If this is how the Obama campaign acts like now...then what later?  No one has a right to take away something that someone else has spent so many hours of hard work to compete.  The site did not belong to the Obama campaign!  Dishonesty will NEVER get my vote!
 
Posted by Bob on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 10:20 PM
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Kevin

 
style="font-style: italic;">"No one has a right to take away something that someone else has spent so many hours of hard work to compete."

So can I assume you're for lower taxes too???
 
Posted by Kevin on Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 3:44 AM
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Joe Anthony
Joe Anthony

 
Thanks Kat 


style="text-decoration: underline;">Update: Myspace has offered to return the profile to me tomorrow (under a different URL, to do whatever I want with it and they will not restrict the content. I guess I'll decide then what to do with it, and probably include a blog where we can discuss the future of the profile as a community.

 
Posted by Joe Anthony on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 11:37 PM
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Faces For Obama

 
<P>size=2>Joe,</P><P>size=2>From the story, doesn't sound like you were treated professionaly.  I've sent a message to the official campaign asking them what the deal is.</P><P>size=2>Just read you will be getting the profile back, though with a different URL... that is some good news at least.  </P><P>size=2>Don't give up.</P><P>size=2>Glenn at FacesForObama</P><P>size=2> </P><P> </P>
 
Posted by Faces For Obama on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 11:46 PM
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Joe Anthony
Joe Anthony

 
Thanks Glenn, I appreciate your support.

Techpresident.com is doing a great job at thorougly investigating this, and will be writing about it soon. I'll try to get a discussion going within the community once the page is returned to me by Myspace, and hopefully together we'll find our way forward and continue to put the page to good use!

I hope you'll all come and participate.

 
Posted by Joe Anthony on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 11:51 PM
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Joe Anthony
Joe Anthony

 
Thanks Barb!

I owe all of you some serious hugs!

 
Posted by Joe Anthony on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 1:14 AM
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jelly
katy steinmetz

 
wow. i'm so sorry joe. sadly, obama probably has no clue that this has happened. it doesn't seem like something he would condone. he's all about community and you have established quite an informative and supporting one here. i hope that whatever happens you keep hope close. you've done such an amazing job and have affected more people that you probably realize. there aren't many people our age who have done nearly as much as you have to fight for what they believe in. you deserve much better than this.

p.s. it breaks my heart to hear you're heart-broken : (

 
Posted by jelly on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 3:32 AM
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Reggie

 
Joe, you just need to chill out.  I find it very hypocritical that you would spend so much of your time passionately supporting a candidate(for all the right reasons I would hope) only to turn around and use the "leverage" you ended up with against him, trying to get him to pay you for work that he never asked you to do.  I hope you calm down soon before you derail the campaign of the man whom I consider to be our country's last hope.  Do you understand the significance of this, Joe?  Please tell me you do.  If I were in your shoes I would just be quiet.  Instead, your negative actions almost make me want to cry.  Look inside yourself and you will see the answer. . .
 
Posted by Reggie on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 8:30 AM
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jojolimited
Joseph Carney Sr

 
<P>Reggie, you sound like every facist punk/ultra left wing jackass out there.</P><P>That type of crap is what we've been getting from the Bushites. Ie..Shut up, don't rock the vote, so you got screwed...it's for the good of the nation in the end. HorseSh#t.</P><P> If this is the type of scum Obama is surrounding himself with, then he is no different than any other politician running for any office. Just another blowhard.</P><P> </P>
 
Posted by jojolimited on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 5:26 PM
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Joe Anthony
Joe Anthony

 
Reggie, I do understand the significance of this, and I do not want this to hurt Barack Obama in any way. It's his campaign that mismanaged this, and that has put me in a difficult position.

They asked me to propose a fee, on very short notice. Having no idea what type of fee to suggest, I sent a proposal. Then they accused me of doing all this for a "big payday". How would you feel?

This is two and half years of my life, and the campaign is apparently the only party involved that doesn't seem to care. The members of the Myspace community have been far more supportive and appreciative than anyone, so I'm posting this here.









 
Posted by Joe Anthony on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 8:52 AM
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Ray

 
Sorry to hear about this unfortunate series of events. I just came across this story via DailyKos and MyDD. Sad that such a popular candidate (or his support network) feels they have a right to simply bully into your space and effectively throw you out.

And shame on MySpace for apparently letting them do this as well.

 
Posted by Ray on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 2:32 PM
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Sean Robertson

 
I don't think you can reasonably assert that all of the MySpace friends were hard supporters.  I'd actually wager that quite a few of those people also friended Hillary and Edwards.  At best, I'd say you deserved a quarter or maybe a third of what you requested.  The campaign probably saw the request as a ridiculous attempt at extortion since it was so high and just ignored it.  No campaign pays that much for a list of merely interested people for which it has no real contact information (since MySpace hides that and acts as a go-between).  The campaign's only mistake here was not respnding quickly with a much more reasonable counteroffer and an explanation of why the contacts weren't nearly as valuable as you purported them to be.  Their mistake was one of tactic, not strategy.

 
Posted by Sean Robertson on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 2:33 PM
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Aldon
Aldon Hynes

 
Joe, I think this will turn out to be a very important event in the evolution of online campaigning.  I feel sorry that you got caught in the middle of it, but I hope that everyone, from all campaigns will be able to sit back and learn from what happened.I've written a longer analysis of this, from the context of a conference on Media in Transition I attended last weekend at MIT.  You can read my analysis, MIT5: LonelyGirl ’08 and Collective Identity Formation and Political Campaigns on my personal blog.I would love to hear any additional thoughts you have.
 
Posted by Aldon on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 2:36 PM
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dk2

 
<P>Sorry for all your trouble and a shame you were treated this way.   </P><P>Sounds like a story for CNN, MSNBC and all the rest.</P>
 
Posted by dk2 on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 2:39 PM
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white bread

 
This is so not cool... I've disassociated myself with the Obama campaign and will seriously question if I'll do anything to help him get elected.  He seemed better than this, but it is all about his 'managers' and from what I can see, they bite.  Honestly, is Bush the problem, or is it his managers?  This smacks of the kind of thing Karl Rove would embrace... not good Mr Obama, not good at all
 
Posted by white bread on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 3:18 PM
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Rob

 
Joe, you have my full support.

The Obama campaign, on the other hand, has lost it all unless they make good with you.  This story has wings.

I'll be spreading the news and keeping my eye on the developments.

Best of luck and sorry for all the headache.


 
Posted by Rob on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 3:45 PM
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Alex

 
<P>Politics 2.0 has done posts today on:</P><P>TechPresident's coverage of this story: http://hammer2006.blogspot.com/2007/05/techpresident-battle-to-control-obamas.html </P><P>National Journal The Hotline's coverage: </P><P>http://hammer2006.blogspot.com/2007/05/obamas-myspace-mayhem-national-journal.html</P><P> </P><P>and a post on your email to TechPresident:</P><P>http://hammer2006.blogspot.com/2007/05/joe-anthonys-published-on-myspace-email.html</P><P> </P><P>This may have the legs of a major national story.</P><P> </P><P>Alex Hammer</P><P>Politics 2.0 - What's now and what's next!</P><P> </P><P> </P><P> </P><P> </P><P> </P>
 
Posted by Alex on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 3:47 PM
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Steve

 
We are with you Joe.  Who are the culprits?  You mention "Chris."  Are they on Obama's campaign team?  We need to "out" them or Obama will just be another victim of the campaign bubblemeisters/consultants who need to "control" communities rather than work with them.

Also, we need to know who capitulated at MySpace.  Then we can go to the blogosphere and perhaps friendlies at MSM to ensure that the "public space" is not further contorted.

Good luck.  We are pulling for you....

BTW...contact Obamaville....(866) 675-2008 and complain loudly
 
Posted by Steve on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 4:18 PM
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Timothy

 
May I post this on my website? I want to spread this so people wont vote for these jerks.. God I hope Gore runs..
 
Posted by Timothy on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 4:18 PM
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It just goes to show you can't trust politicians. If you have something useful to them, they'll bully you aside if possible. (Yes, I know, it was the Obama campaign team, not Obama. That's like saying Rumsfeld was responsible for the Iraq War and not Bush.)

Here's another thought: I wonder how much the Obama team payed Myspace for their "services." Odds are once you named your price, they went right to Myspace and paid them off for less than you wanted.
 
Posted by on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 4:49 PM
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Guze

 
<P>This was just WRONG, the man lost my vote.</P>
 
Posted by Guze on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 4:52 PM
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Jason

 
This is about as rotten as it gets. The story of your plight just hit Slashdot, so every tech-minded person in America should know about the "MyTheft" shortly.
 
Posted by Jason on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 5:04 PM
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Skip

 
<P>This is really disappointing; it's unfair and un-American on so many different levels that it's hard to quantify.

Things like this will definately have an impact on deciding my primary voting and where my support goes; whether that be as a campaigner or a contributor.

Ultimately I'm left wondering if this will blossum into a defining moment for the Obama campiagn- the day Obama broke the 'Netroots' back.

Keep up the good work; and sorry about the crappy treatment from Barak Obama. </P>
 
Posted by Skip on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 5:08 PM
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Patrick

 
<P>Joe, I just read about this on Daily Kos a little while ago. Granted, I'm basically hearing one side of the story at this point, since the Obama folks don't seem to be saying much of anything about it, but it does look like you got a raw deal.</P><P>I'm starting to see why Obama is becoming stiffer and why his public statements are sounding more calculated if this is the kind of staffers and advisers he has working for him. I remember what these types did to Al Gore's campaign in 2000 and it really seems (even independent of the situation with you and the MySpace page) that Obama is perhaps surrounding himself with the same type of people for his own campaign. If so, he needs to get his head out of his ass and realize what it is about him that has been attracting people... it's not the antics of a bunch of two-bit professional campaign consultants, that's for sure.</P><P>I may end up doing a piece about this on my own blog here on MySpace just to spread the story a little further (and I do mean a LITTLE further... but then I suppose every bit helps.) It really does sound like the Obama campaign tried to get as much free work out of you as they could before muscling you off of your own MySpace page. I hardly think that's the message that Senator Obama wants to be sending, and unless he wants to risk getting some really bad press over this (now that the story is up on blogs like Kos, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see it surface in the mainstream press at some point) he'd better do something about his staff (assuming he's even aware of the situation at all, of course.)</P>
 
Posted by Patrick on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 5:10 PM
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jm

 
If I were you, and assuming that you are indeed telling the whole truth, I would find a good lawyer and sue the Obama campaign and MySpace. Your rights have been trampled. Shame on Obama and his campaign (I assume he is totally unaware of thr situation, having bigger things to deal with).
 
Posted by jm on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 5:21 PM
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Hank

 
<P>As this gets more publicity, the Obama campaign will be forced to do the right thing. Although Joe Anthony didn't create his Obama Myspace page to make any money, the way this was handled by the people in Obama's campaign was awful and they should compensate Anthony for the time and effort he put into it. </P><P><STRONG>For those Obama campaign staffers who I know are reading this, there are alot of people out in the blogosphere who will be turned off by this. Apologize for your stealing the MySpace page and do the right thing by Mr. Anthony by compnesating him for both his time and your successful bullying efforts.</STRONG></P><P> </P>
 
Posted by Hank on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 5:33 PM
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apartment A

 
hey joe ... my sympathies!
truly heartbreaking,
but myspace pages are like buses
another will come along ... or however that saying goes.


p.s. to the commenter who wrote "MyTheft" - that's good!
 
Posted by apartment A on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 5:35 PM
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Kerry Jones (D-TX)
Kerry Jones

 
I was considering to vote for obama, but not anymore. If this is how his lackeys act in the shadows it may be the way that he would run the government.
 
Posted by Kerry Jones (D-TX) on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 5:59 PM
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Crazy Guy In Seattle

 
Hang in there - and you have lots of support. I greatly appreciate all of the hard work you put in for the Obama campaign, and I hope that there will be some resolution to this awful situation.
 
Posted by Crazy Guy In Seattle on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 6:08 PM
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Megavid
Dave Gingras

 
Well I was taking a serious look at Obama, but just like the rest it is never about the people it is about the power.  NO VOTE FOR OBAMA, so much for a new direction.  I hope you don't even win a primary.
 
Posted by Megavid on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 6:08 PM
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James - KB7TBT

 
<div>Unfortunately this is the way our country is being handled, I am reading that some are "surprised" that this is happening.  I do not get shocked by irresponsible and self centered actions of our political party or there candidates, I have seen it happen way to much and have become numb.</div> <div> </div> <div>This country has gone so far off the correct path I don't see any hope to stop our demise.</div>
 
Posted by James - KB7TBT on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 6:08 PM
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alan

 
I'm absolutely disgusted with the campaign for doing this.
 
Posted by alan on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 6:17 PM
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Bob

 
<P>According to recent estimates, over 1 billion dollars will be spent on the presidential campaign. Mr. Obama's election machine has already demonstrated its capacity for attracting money my nearly eclipsing Hillary Clinton's efforts. The $50,000 (I rounded up) that Joe requested represents .0005 percent of the money that will be spent "electing" the next president. $50,000 would cut John Edwards hair only 120 times. </P><P>Only fools believe that big money deosn't control the American political process. The Obama campaign will play the game as much as any other. Joe made the mistake of lifting the veil between perception and reality. What we want is a "real" person, not another manufactured politician. When the underbelly of campaign finance was exposed, Joe disturbed the idea that Obama is somehow different. He is not. His campaign is addicted to money and "controlling the message". </P><P>Politics as usual in the good ol' USA.</P>
 
Posted by Bob on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 6:17 PM
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Chris

 
<P>For all those of you who say"his campaign people" I think you need to rethink this.  Regardless of who managed this situation, the ultimate responsiblity is Obama's.  That's what leadership is, you take responsibility for your subordinates successess and failures.  Could the campaign apologize and regain some credibility, yes, but even this would be cheap.  I'd like to see the campaign give the profile back.  That would at least prove they were truly sorry. 
Reggie, I know you want to make a difference, but the reality is that most politicians don't.  Why, because change and conflict go hand and hand, and the last thing a politician wants to do is rock the boat too much.  The only time they are willing to rock the boat is when it profits them.  If you really want to make a difference, run for office and keep your values, don't sacrafice them for political expediency.  Oh, but you'll never get elected.</P>
 
Posted by Chris on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 6:29 PM
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AA23

 
Hey Joe, I totally sympathize. I few years back I legally registered dorothylamour.com (the movie star) and was building a massive fan site. There was nothing out there on her, and her family obviously had no intention of keeping her memory alive. One day I got a letter from high profile parasites CMG, who are the top law firm in intellectual property issues, stating that the very registration of dorothylamour.com was a blatant violation of their rights as the (newly appointed) owners of the dorothy lamour estate and all rights to her image, name, etc. I had no choice but to give the domain to them. It's entirely unfair, and it really hurt me. The deal is, we as individual citizens have absolutely no rights when up against ANYONE with either power, money, or both. The little guys always lose out, that's a fact. You can't fight and win. It's sad, but true, and this is what our society is today. The world and its contents are fleeting for the small guy, only the rich and powerful get what they want. You're now experiencing this. Just as I don't hold a grudge against the late Dorothy Lamour, perhaps its not wise to hold a grudge against Obama. Maybe he did actually have nothing to do with it. Does this change how you feel? No, and it shouldn't. I'm not saying don't fight for what you believe it...I'm just saying that you shouldn't expect to much to change regarding things like this. Your hard work and dedication has fallen on only a small handful of deaf ears. The rest of us applaud your efforts and hope you get your say in one way or another. Best of luck to you! -Tim
 
Posted by AA23 on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 6:42 PM
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wasabi

 
Wow Obama just lost my vote. People might think this is minor, just a webpage, but it shows what he really thinks about people. I realize politicians need to be careful about their image but this could have been handled differently not with bullying and stubborness, but with fairness and compassion. Obama and his team have shown their are Bushbots in Dem clothing. 
 
Posted by wasabi on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 5:46 AM
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**Just_Josh_LaX**
Josh Mueller

 
HAHA You made the Drudge report.  Isn't that great?!  PUT UP SOME GOOGLE ADDS!  LoL  Yep lost my vote!  Sorry man!
 
Posted by **Just_Josh_LaX** on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 6:42 PM
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KK for HRC!

 
Joe, I understand that this is a pissy situation for you.  When I heard the news, I was rather upset, especially because I thought Obama had the <span style="font-style: italic;">best </span>MySpace profile out of any of the candidates.  But I'm leaving a comment not just to laud your hardwork and talent, but to ask you to reconsider your vote choice.  If there is one thing I've learned on campaigns is that the staff members are not necessarily reflective of the candidate and vice-versa.  I too have had some interesting experiences with the Obama campaign and decided to work for a different Presidential as a result of it, but I try to keep in mind that any douchebagesque treatment I receive is not coming directly from the candidate and shouldn't influence my vote.  I'm sure this was all done without Senator Obama's knowledge, and I hope you will reconsider using this terrible fiasco as a reason not to vote for him in your state's primary.  If he's your man, then he's your man.  Don't let his staffers get in the way of that.
 
Posted by KK for HRC! on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 6:43 PM
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