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May 30, 2007 - Wednesday 

Category: News and Politics

Jennifer is Jumping Ship…The Ship of Fools that is….

I have to admit that the past few months have been a revelation for me in many ways. Right before the November elections, I went to hear Cindy Sheehan speak at a local event. I was so excited, it looked as if the Democrats would take Congress and maybe even the Senate. I had volunteered for hours on end with MoveOn.org, and the TJCoxx election campaign. I made so many phone calls to strange peoples homes I thought for sure I would loose my voice. While I was at the event Cindy made a bold statement that took the wind out of my sails…it was, in many ways, like the loud scratch on an old vinyl record playing "We Are the Champions" by Queen after a 200 pound dog had made the needle jump wildly by knocking into the record player. "After the November elections, I will not quit! I will not quit until it is no longer profitable for corporations to make money off making war and murder! I will not quit until the Military Industrial Complex in this country has been dismantled!" she said with great conviction.

I thought to myself, "No, no Cindy, everything will be ok…the Democrats are here to save us!" I mean really, what the fuck was she talking about? I left that day deeply disturbed. I was certain for so long that all America needed was a Democratic something and then the real criminal George W Bush could be brought down. Months later, I now know I was wrong, dead wrong.

Numerous news articles and blogs are written daily about such topics as the "War on Terror," the war in Iraq, immigration, the crappiness of the Bush administration, and the economy. For every news article and opinion, shared one common thread seems to be missing from the debate, one question that is never asked by the media or the people of the United States…which corporate entity benefits from these policies?

I used to drive myself absolutely bonkers trying to figure out the logic of US policies. I would run questions over and over again in my head…like, "Why do we stay in Iraq when it increases terrorism?" or "Why do we continue to give support in the form of arms sales to the Sudanese government when we know genocide is being committed?" or "Why do we renounce others for failing to follow the Geneva Conventions when we don't follow them ourselves?"

The questions rattling around in my brain stopped their movement and hung on to those few sentences spoken by Cindy Sheehan on that day, "After the November elections, I will not quit! I will not quit until it is no longer profitable for corporations to make money off making war and murder! I will not quit until the Military Industrial Complex in this country has been dismantled!"

I have written extensively on the absolute hypocrisy of Bush administrations claims. If you have not noticed yet, Bush likes to cite "The War on Terror," human rights, international law, and Democracy, when it is convenient and ONLY when it is convenient. Usually, he likes to cite it when he is attempting to rev up support for more military aggression, more human rights abuses, or more US lawlessness. The truth, as I have learned, is that what he is really advocating are the how to's of corporation expanded profits.

Human rights abuses around the world are no longer motivated by simple racial differences or political divide, they are committed by corporations and a powerful US government that is complicit in perpetrating them.

I thought today, just for kicks we would take a look at some of the winners and the losers in today's American Fascist State…let me make myself, clear, I do not use the term Fascist lightly.

I thought that perhaps we should start with Condoleezza Rice's favorite company, Chevron. Prior to her service in the Bush Administration, she enjoyed a comfortable salary sitting on the Board of Chevron. Shell, is a subsidiary of Chevron.


Ken Saro-Wiwa, a human rights activist advocating on behalf of communities located in Niger Delta, a part of Nigeria where Chevron has been drilling for decades stated, "Oil exploration has turned Ogoni into a wasteland: lands, streams and creeks are totally and continually polluted; the atmosphere has been poisoned, charged as it is with hydrocarbon vapours, methane, carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide and soot emitted by gas which has been flared 24 hours a day for 33 years in very close proximity to human habitation. Acid rain, oil spillages and oil blowouts have devastated Ogoni territory. High-pressure oil pipelines criss-cross the surface of Ogoni farmlands and villages dangerously."

Well, I guess Condi Rice really has nothing to worry about now regarding all of this environmental degradation, you see while she sat on the board of Chevron, Ken Saro-Wiwa along with ten other human rights activists were executed. I suppose that is handy considering that recently, Amnesty International, reported that Chevron "security" continues to murder anyone who opposes the rape of the Niger Delta. But this situation can not be laid solely at the feet as our illustrious Condi Rice, no, she has an accomplice. His name is Bill Clinton, you might remember back in 2000, he made a trip to the Nigeria in support of arming and training this oppressive regime. Amy Goodman of Democracy Now! states, "With President Clinton's trip to Nigeria, there is a great deal of protest over the US deal-making with the Nigerian military; a military notorious for its human rights abuses. But Clinton's visit is just the most recent move in a series of efforts to bolster Nigeria's armed forces. And, though Clinton will not be traveling there, many human rights activists are concerned that US training and weapons will be used against the people of the oil rich Niger Delta."

Here is what I find most interesting, regardless of the oppression, murder, rape, torture, pollution, and health issues raised by its business practices, no president to date has condemned Chevron, not even Bill Clinton. Could it be that Cindy had a good point? Even after the Democrats won, we and everyone around the globe is still screwed in favor of corporate profits?

Next, I think we should take a look at one of Donald Rumsfeld's favorites, Dow Chemicals. This is a great bunch! The list of war crimes this cooperation has committed makes Bill O'Reilly's propagandized statements pale in comparison. In fact, the list is so long, I will only be able to name a few, but if you would like to read more on their crimes, you can read the book "Trespass Against Us: Dow Chemical and the Toxic Century".

Dow Chemicals, with the help of Ronald Reagan and Donald Rumsfled, made a killing during the 1980's brokering deals with your favorite criminal and mine, Saddam Hussein, selling him the chemicals needed for those damn Weapons of Mass Destruction. The Guardian reports, "Rick Francona, an ex-army intelligence lieutenant-colonel who served in the US embassy in Baghdad in 1987 and 1988, told the Guardian: "We believed the Iraqis were using mustard gas all through the war, but that was not as sinister as nerve gas. They started using tabun [a nerve gas] as early as '83 or '84, but in a very limited way. They were probably figuring out how to use it. And in '88, they developed sarin." On November 1 1983, the secretary of state, George Shultz, was passed intelligence reports of "almost daily use of CW [chemical weapons]" by Iraq. However, 25 days later, Ronald Reagan signed a secret order instructing the administration to do "whatever was necessary and legal" to prevent Iraq losing the war. In December Mr Rumsfeld, hired by President Reagan to serve as a Middle East troubleshooter, met Saddam Hussein in Baghdad and passed on the US willingness to help his regime and restore full diplomatic relations. Mr Rumsfeld has said that he "cautioned" the Iraqi leader against using banned weapons. But there was no mention of such a warning in state department notes of the meeting. Howard Teicher, an Iraq specialist in the Reagan White House, testified in a 1995 affidavit that the then CIA director, William Casey, used a Chilean firm, Cardoen, to send cluster bombs to use against Iran's "human wave" attacks. A 1994 congressional inquiry also found that dozens of biological agents, including various strains of anthrax, had been shipped to Iraq by US companies, under licence from the commerce department. Furthermore, in 1988, the Dow Chemical company sold $1.5m-worth (£930,000) of pesticides to Iraq despite suspicions they would be used for chemical warfare."

Just for good measure, I thought we should take a look at the media coverage that Saddam's crimes warranted while they were happening. According to FAIR or Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, this story only reached America media a handful of times and even when it was mentioned, it was a rosy picture of love between the US and Saddam indeed. And yet, during the lead up to the invasion of Iraq, how many times did the Bush administration invoke pictures of Kurdish civilian victims and their demise by these same Weapons of Mass Destruction?

A report published in 2004 by the University of Maryland's for International and Security Studies shows that United States media outlets mentioned Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction a total of 270 times. More alarming is the time frame that these stories were published in.

The dates?

October 11, 2002 through October 31, 2002. In one twenty day period American media consumers were told about Iraq's WMD program 270 times before the invasion compared with the roughly 3-7 times during the years that the crime was occurring!

I wonder if the media could be complicit in these war crimes by letting Americans know facts only on a need to know basis. Iraq is a great example…Americans don't need to know when Dow is making a huge profit, but they do when beating the drums of war.  

Dow has a few other war crimes on its list…environmental degradation, the poisoning of entire populations, and of course that time-tested favorite, Agent Orange. With this chemical, the most toxic chemical known to science, Dow proudly, "disabled and sickened soldiers, civilians and several generations of their offspring on two continents." And yet, this corporation is still allowed to operate freely in the United States with no government accountability or condemnation coming from any White House officials since the war's beginning to date.

Other corporations making a killing off the killing are those corporations providing "security" throughout the world. According to CorpWatch, "The U.S. State Department awarded DynCorp a multimillion-dollar contract to advise the Iraqi government on setting up effective law enforcement, judicial and correctional agencies. DynCorp will arrange for up to 1,000 U.S. civilian law enforcement experts to travel to Iraq to help locals "assess threats to public order" and mentor personnel at the municipal, provincial and national levels. The company will also provide any logistical or technical support necessary for this peacekeeping project. DynCorp estimates it could recoup up to $50 million for the first year of the contract." This corporation is responsible for some of the most horrid of crimes, from environmental degradation to child sex-slave trafficking. And it has not been just the Bush administration that has been kind to DynaCorp, Bill Clinton lobbied heavily for a blank check from Congress to continue to fund the "dirty" war in Columbia whose main victims were, one more time, innocent civilians. It appears that the "Destroy it to save it" chant does not follow party lines. According to the Center for Public Integrity, the United States has systematically ignored any record of human rights abuses when determining it's allies in the "War on Terror." It appears as if the US policy is now to arm and train, no questions asked. And who are the winners with this policy? The Arms Trade Resource Center reports the ten biggest war profiteers, are Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Northrup Grumman, General Dynamics, Raytheon, Halliburton, L-3 Communications, BAE Systems, United Technologies, and Science Applications International Corp.

William D. Hartung, issued a report in May of 1995, the power of the weapons industry is outlined in graphic detail of how the US has sold its soul to the devil in order to continue to fund this insatiable animal. Hartung states, "From Richard Nixon to Bill Clinton, it has been an article of faith for executive branch policy makers that U.S. weapons exports are only made to responsible allies who use these systems for legitimate defensive purposes. This report puts that thesis to the test by documenting U.S. weapons deliveries to 50 current ethnic and territorial conflicts. Contrary to the conventional wisdom in Washington, official U.S. government data on arms transfers provides overwhelming circumstantial evidence that U.S.-supplied weaponry is at the center of many of today's most dangerous and intractable conflicts" with the small amount of information provided, Hartung showed that, "In a number of volatile areas the United States has been the primary supplier to governments that are involved in ongoing conflicts. In Turkey (76%), Spain (85%), Israel (99%), Morocco (26%), Egypt (61%), Chad (27%), Somalia (44%), Liberia (40%), Kenya (25%), Pakistan (44%), the Philippines (93%), Indonesia (38%), Guatemala (86%), Haiti (25%), Colombia (28%), Brazil (35%), and Mexico (77%), the United States has been the primary supplier of imported weaponry in the most recent five year period for which full data is available."

It is not just arms sales and private contractors that are robbing us blind of tax dollars. Caterpillar, a UK run company states in its Code of Worldwide Business Conduct, "Caterpillar accepts the responsibilities of global citizenship." and, "must also take into account social, economic, political and environmental priorities."

Sounds nice on paper doesn't it?

Unfortunately, Human Rights Watch claims, "Caterpillar betrays its stated values when it sells bulldozers to Israel knowing that they are being used to illegally destroy Palestinian homes," and in a letter dated October 29th encouraged, "the company to cease all sales to the Israeli military of the D9, as well as parts and maintenance services, so long as the military continues to use the bulldozer to violate international human rights and humanitarian law." Amnesty International notes that not only are these pieces of heavy equipment being used for the illegal destruction of homes, but for the destruction of agricultural lands, infrastructure and schools
as well. Regardless of
this companies compliance in these crimes, neither the administrations of Clinton, Bush, or Blair have condemned them for their actions.

Gee, that is strange isn't it? I could have sworn this is called being an accomplice to a crime.

Isn't that illegal?

One more cooperate enemy, and then I will let you go. One company, among many that profited from NAFTA, or the National Fair Trade Agreement is Monsanto. For a frame of reference to the political debate regarding immigration, the one argument you will rarely, if ever here, is that the implementation of NAFTA, has anything to do with the problems facing the economy of South America today or immigration in the United States.

However, according to the Food First Institute for Food and Development Policy, "In the first year of NAFTA, over 700,000 Mexicans crossed the border into the United StatesMexico and Central America still come to the U.S. looking for work—many of them farmers or their able bodied-children. From 1994-2004, 1.3 million smallholders went bankrupt. After 13 years of NAFTA, a million immigrants from each year."

Perhaps we need to reconsider our "free" trade policies abroad if we would like to actually frame the immigration debate realistically.

After reading this massive blog, checking all of my citations and learning the facts, I bet you are asking yourself, "How could this happen…and right under our noses?"

It seems the United States Government has had a very close friend that has filled our minds with mush and fed us loads of crap. The media, yes, the media, our trusted friend for information has turned its back on the public in exchange for profits. The FCC has been complicit in its attempts to control what you see and hear. From imaginary WMD's to the number of Iraqi civilians dead to the inevitable "justified" war with Iran.

Americans are slopping up the bullshit by the bucket loads, blaming those damn Republican, Leftist, Neo-Con, Liberal, Moderate, Democrat, Socialist, Right-wing, Secular Progressive, Nutcases. The funny thing is, we have all been fighting each other so much…the corporate elite have run away with our cash cow…and they are laughing hysterically.

 

Why?

 

Because the entire time you thought it was the Republican, Leftist, Neo-Con, Liberal, Moderate, Democrat, Socialist, Right-wing, Secular Progressive, Nutcases, who were screwing up the country, it was actually the people that stand to profit from all this chaos and bloodshed. In fact, I can still hear them laughing now. I don't know about you, but I am jumping ship from this two-party crap and the only candidate that will earn my undying support had better speak to the issue if corporate control in a substantive fashion. I have better things to do with my time than support some corporate hack that thinks they have fooled me into believing they are one of the "good" guys again.

You can identify these people easily, they are the ones with the most campaign money to spend, and it makes no difference which political party they fall under, this has been a systematic abuse of power. And you know what?

"After the November elections, I will not quit! I will not quit until it is no longer profitable for corporations to make money off making war and murder! I will not quit until the Military Industrial Complex in this country has been dismantled!"
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YOU ARE AMAZING! MAYBE ONE DAY, YOU'LL RUN FOR PRESIDENT!
PEACE, LOVE AND MUCH RESPECT!
LORIE
 
Posted by on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 7:43 AM
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Jennifer

 
GUYS...IF YOU DO NOT SEE YOUR COMMENT BELOW, PLEASE NOTICE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE BLOG THERE ARE PAGE NUMBERS. PLEASE CLICK ON THE PAGE NUMBERS TO READ ALL THE COMMENTS. I WILL NOT DELETE COMMENTS UNLESS THEY ARE ABUSIVE...
MUCH LOVE JENN--
 
Posted by Jennifer on May 31, 2007 - Thursday - 7:06 AM
[Reply to this
Jennifer

 
I don't have enough money!!! DAMN!
 
Posted by Jennifer on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 3:12 PM
[Reply to this
Jennifer

 
Breathing is good...and you bring up a great point. The candidates that point this stuff our are in danger...
 
Posted by Jennifer on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 6:11 PM
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Jesse

 
Candidates in danger? With the patriot act just plain citizens are in danger for pointing this out. YOU could find ourself locked away in a back room and forgotten. Locked up on a trumped up charge. "Danger Will Robinson,Danger"!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Jesse on May 31, 2007 - Thursday - 11:57 AM
[Reply to this
Jennifer

 
Jesse and Cynic...I have thought about that on many occasions. I am concerned for any candidate like Ron Paul who speaks out like he does...it is so dangerous and with his popularity increasing all the time, he is becoming a real threat....me? I did manage to get my boarding pass online and I guess if you are on the terrorist watch list that will be denied. It does scare the crap out of me to know that so many human rights activists have been killed....God forbid we actually give our fellow humans rights!
 
Posted by Jennifer on May 31, 2007 - Thursday - 6:41 PM
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Jesse

 
YOu work fo rhuman rights globally, I work for them locally. I am not in harms way, you may well be. But , even though i don;t know your particular releigous convictions or lack thereof, I know mine and you will be prayed for while you are on the job. That much I can do. Blessing on you!!

I would imagine that any blogger who makes a negative statement aobut policy or individuals is on a wathc list. That is why I only blog religious stuff. It is acceptable by the present admin. Now if liberal gets in, Iwill probably be on a list!! ;-) ( man I miss those smiley things)
 
Posted by Jesse on June 1, 2007 - Friday - 2:57 AM
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Jesse

 
ARen't they called " Blackwater" or something like that? You are going to laugh but Isaw a movie in the early 70's starring James Caan and John Housemen and it was called " Rollerball". In this movie there were no more countries,the world was divided and run by coporations and executives. I ahve watched over the last 20 years as this seems to have become more and more of a reality. Nice call Cynic. Been seeing you around ding a bit of Hell raising lately. Truman Capote indeed!! ;-)
 
Posted by Jesse on June 1, 2007 - Friday - 2:53 AM
[Reply to this
The Ghost of Jake

 
i've been paddling away in the lifeboat myself for a looooooong time...

nice article. :-)
 
Posted by The Ghost of Jake on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 7:46 AM
[Reply to this
Jennifer

 
Ashamedly, I have not...it was not until Cindy made this statement that I finally started to get it...
 
Posted by Jennifer on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 3:11 PM
[Reply to this
Riders on the Storm

 
This is exactly what I talk about regarding the elections. People should hear the candidates out and not assume that one party is the good or bad guy. People need to do their homework regarding each candidate. The congress bending over for Bush last week proved that.

For me, the Democrats have the stronger candidates for President `08 while most of the Republican candidates (except Ron Paul) come off as transparent car salesman that will say anything to get elected.

However, I am looking to see if a third party candidate will come along.

We`ll have to wait and see. Never assume.
 
Posted by Riders on the Storm on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 7:52 AM
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Jennifer

 
So far....Paul, Kucinich, Gravel and Nader(he has not announced running as of yet) are the only people I have ever seen address this issue...EVER! So whomever gets my vote...it is time for the American people to take back our government from these fat cats!
 
Posted by Jennifer on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 3:14 PM
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Join the Green Party

 
Kucinich, Paul adn Gravel may be addressing these issues and may sound like they are trying to change things but when it comes down to it, they are still members of the two corporate parties, which are essentially one and the same. Nader on the other hand has a long history of fighting for individual rights as a consumer advocate and founder of many public interest research groups (PIRGs).

I am a member of the Green Party. The Green Party differentiates itself from the corporate parties by refusing to accept any political contributions from corporations to ensure our canidates will represent the people of this country rather than be corrupted by money and personal gain.

To find out more about the Green Party visit www.gp.org
 
Posted by Join the Green Party on June 3, 2007 - Sunday - 5:42 PM
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FoUrFiNgErS the Watchman

 
Kucinich wants to pass legislation which bypasses the due process of amending the cosntitution to disarm the people. It's Treason, the same reason he's filing charges of impeachment against Cheney would he himself be guilty of in the same instance.

Not only that he uses terminology under which Bush could declare a National Emergency and Martial law as He states on his own sight that it is a National Emergency to have the people armed. So instead people who can not eb protected by the Law as per the US Supreme court would be defenseless and he would rather Americans have what we have here in Oz. A rash of increasing gun related crimes with defenseless and helpless people dependent on someone else to help protect them and their property, even against foreign invasion.

O offense i know that is a touchy issue with some democrats but the reality is if Rome could have armed citizens for over 800 years with no major issues, and properly trained citizens can have firearms that know how to use them clean them safely store them etc. ( i think most gun owners are responsible but there are a few i am sure that are also not) why give Criminals who have no respect for the law whether possession of fire arms or someone's personal property armed and everyone else victims?

BTW i don't own a gun, never have but i still fight to defend every single right protected by the constitution because i believe them all to be valid. Criminals don't and won't register firearms and even after everyone is dissarmed they will still get and use them.
Sorry but if one person says someone is committing treason and it;s wrong when that person does it so we should impeach them, but it's okay suddenly when they do, i have questions on their logic and policy's.

protect your rights or you will find you have none left at all.

respect,

4
 
Posted by FoUrFiNgErS the Watchman on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 3:50 PM
[Reply to this
Jennifer

 
Hmmmm good point on the gun control issue...didn't think of that...
 
Posted by Jennifer on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 6:12 PM
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Chrissay

 
I agree, Jennifer, he makes an excellent point.


The people who founded this country made no small issue of how important it is to have an armed citizenry; it was for protection NOT ONLY against common crime, but also against extremes of a corrupt government. Beginning to speak to our times I'm afraid.


 
Posted by Chrissay on May 31, 2007 - Thursday - 7:04 AM
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Jennifer

 
You know Chris if someone would have made that statement to me four yeas ago I would have thought they were either insane or smoked too much pot during the sixties...now? I am a self-proclaimed conspiracy nut right along with the best of 'em! The more information I have, the more I think we are in serious danger of losing our freedoms...and you are right, the constitution was written expressly with the protection of the people from their own government in mind.
 
Posted by Jennifer on May 31, 2007 - Thursday - 6:45 PM
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Chrissay

 
Spot on; policy is dictated by transnational "persons".

"However, according to the Food First Institute for Food and Development Policy, "In the first year of NAFTA, over 700,000 Mexicans crossed the border into the United StatesMexico and Central America still come to the U.S. looking for work—many of them farmers or their able bodied-children. From 1994-2004, 1.3 million smallholders went bankrupt. After 13 years of NAFTA, a million immigrants from each year."


Perhaps we need to reconsider our "free" trade policies abroad if we would like to actually frame the immigration debate realistically."





NAFTA has scorched millions of people south of our border but it would be insane to import them all into the US as a remedy, because they directly compete against OUR most vulnerable classes of workers.
Note:
NAFTA was enthusiastically promoted by both major parties and by the decision makers in Mexico.
On the other hand, Ron Paul opposed it from the very beginning.
 
Posted by Chrissay on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 8:00 AM
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RP-Wayne

 
Yeah! We have two choices when it comes to helping out the poor in the world. We can lead by an example and show them ways of dealing with their problems at home, or we can open up a soup kitchen for a week and then the lights go out for everyone.
 
Posted by RP-Wayne on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 9:27 PM
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Chrissay

 


[Coming back to modify my comment above]
:)


It was a little sloppy for me to write above that NAFTA was enthusiastically promoted by both major parties. Many notable Dems did promote it, such as Clinton and Kerry, but they were not technically the majority.
Here are the exact numbers from the website "MyDD.com":


"In the House, 157 of the 259 Democratic Representatives (counting Sanders as a Democrat), opposed the bill, while 102 supported it. In the Senate, 26 Democratic Senators supported the bill, while 29 opposed it and one did not vote.


Even so ...the party was divided, the numbers were close, and it passed.


 
Posted by Chrissay on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 8:32 AM
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Countess ♥

 
You should clarify BILL Clinton supported Nafta...
Hilllary wasnt doing any voting back then but she DID vote against CAFTA in 2005
 
Posted by Countess ♥ on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 4:48 PM
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Chrissay

 


Fair enough. And while we're here, let's add Al Gore to the list of NAFTA supporters in that year (1993 ? I think it was).


But this is not so much to lambaste any particular politician ...rather it is to showcase the mind-boggling similarities between Dems (including Hillary) and MOST Repubs.


 
Posted by Chrissay on May 31, 2007 - Thursday - 7:00 AM
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Countess ♥

 
I cannot agree here...

Democrats and Republicans differ on healthcare, gun rights, abortion, seperation of church and state, capital punishment, social security, taxation, welfare, civil rights, affirmative action...They are Not the same.......
 
Posted by Countess ♥ on June 3, 2007 - Sunday - 5:00 AM
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Jennifer

 
Did she? Do you know what she said her reasons were? I would be interested in finding out how she felt about it...
 
Posted by Jennifer on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 6:15 PM
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Countess ♥

 
Here she is talking about her vote on CAFTA-
"My vote to oppose DR-CAFTA is one taken with great difficulty. I have heard strong arguments both for and against from many New Yorkers who have a stake in the agreement and I have weighed them seriously. Segments of the New York economy would benefit from this agreement, But at the end of the day, I cannot support an agreement that fails to include adequate labor standards and is a step backward in the development of bipartisan support for international trade.

At the outset, it is important to understand that consideration of DR-CAFTA is not occurring in isolation. This agreement must be read within the larger context of the failed economic and trade policies of this Administration. Under this Administration, the trade deficit has soared. The offshoring of U.S. jobs has continued to increase, and the U.S. economy has experienced a net loss of U.S. jobs. The Administration has no plans to address rising health care and pension costs that are imposing such a tremendous burden on American businesses. This Administration has also failed to enforce existing trade rules and has not been aggressive in addressing the tax and capital subsidies of our competitors.

Turning to the specifics of the agreement itself, DR-CAFTA fails in significant respects. The most problematic elements are its labor provisions which retreat from advances made in the late 1990s and that culminated in the labor provisions of the U.S.-Jordan Free Trade Agreement. The U.S.-Jordan Free Trade agreement included internationally recognized enforceable labor standards in the text of the agreement. Sadly, DR-CAFTA is a step backward. The labor provisions of the DR-CAFTA agreement instead used an “enforce your own laws” standard which is not included in any other area of the agreement. An “enforce your own laws” standard may work in nations with a strong tradition of labor enforcement, but the International Labor Organization (ILO) has documented that the CAFTA countries’ labor laws have not complied with international norms in at least 20 areas. "
 
Posted by Countess ♥ on June 3, 2007 - Sunday - 3:00 PM
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Jennifer

 
Ohhh thank you for the info...NAFTA has increased immigration so much and YET WE NEVER TALK ABOUT IT!!!! Arrrrgh!!!! Chris will you help me pull my hair out?
 
Posted by Jennifer on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 3:15 PM
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Chrissay

 
I'd best not or I'll be tempted to tell a certain joke I just heard LOL.
(look for it in your mail)


WHY don't those in the highest tiers of government talk about the disastrous consequences of NAFTA very much ?
Because they are right now in the very act of either advancing or acquiescing in the SPP, which is a sort of NAFTA-on-steroids.


 
Posted by Chrissay on May 31, 2007 - Thursday - 7:09 AM
[Reply to this
smokeyjoe

 
Great article Jenn, stop the Cash from Chaos, smokeyjoe
 
Posted by smokeyjoe on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 8:12 AM
[Reply to this
Jennifer

 
Yeah, you know we have a real problem when billions are being made off of blood...BILLIONS!
 
Posted by Jennifer on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 3:16 PM
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Jennifer

 
And we are only friends with those that allow us to do so...look at Venezuela...perfect example of someone with an enormous amount of natural resources and Chavez is our enemy...well he is our enemy because he won't let big oil exploit the hell out of his country or people!
 
Posted by Jennifer on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 3:17 PM
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FoUrFiNgErS the Watchman

 
Not to mention he told the world bank to go to hell and the IMF and has told Bush if you want to invade me come invade me and I'll fight you out in the streets myself. IMO he's being demonized i know he has just shut down TV stations critical against him but with the sudden increase of approval by the Bush administration for increased CIA presence, i am not sure he's working with the globalist or if he is really trying to be come a dictator but he definitely could, the CIA could have been paying the TV source to be a propaganda machine against Chavez, it's kind of tricky with him. I am still following the guys actions. Let's see what happens with him, but with the approval to use black ops i would not doubt he will get assassinated or couped.

respect.
 
Posted by FoUrFiNgErS the Watchman on May 31, 2007 - Thursday - 6:48 AM
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Uncle "G"

 
As I understand it,Chavez didn't actually shut down the TV station.He just refused to renew their license to operate after they had been implicated in at least two attempts to overthrow his government.CIA ops I'm sure.It seems like a reasonable reaction,but I admit that I,too,am still watching to see where Chavez goes.I'm always hoping for a world leader that is sincere and progressive,but I always figure that they will be overthrown or assassinated if they don't bow to the mighty corporations.Especially the oil industry.

Peace.
 
Posted by Uncle "G" on June 6, 2007 - Wednesday - 5:59 AM
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Stephanie Alexis
Stephanie Alexis Bonvissuto

 
Great thought-provoking post that is sure to haunt. Reminds me of Morpheus welcoming Neo to "the desert of the real" and warning him he's "been living a dream."

How to wake up the masses is the question now. Because when you confront them with these facts a strange glaze rolls over their eyes. It's not that they don't want to wake up. Rather they feel so overwhelmed finding themselves so intrinsically complicit in the state of corruption that is Amerikka today.

Any ideas?
 
Posted by Stephanie Alexis on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 8:53 AM
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FoUrFiNgErS the Watchman

 
Yep Jen's ate the red pill,

your turn.

btw this is just the surface of it, this rabbit hole goes very deep.

welcome to the real world!

respect,

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Posted by FoUrFiNgErS the Watchman on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 3:42 PM
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Jennifer

 
Blog Blog Blog...write write write talk talk talk until we are blue in the face and then keep blogging, writing and talking some more...eventually it will get out....hopefully not before it is too late!
 
Posted by Jennifer on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 3:19 PM
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Amor Vincit Omnia

 
Lead on MacDuff, lead on!

We need a third party.

Pleeeeease can we get Gravel an Paul to run on the same ticket, pretty please.

Let's start canvassing those guys. How doe we do that?

Screw the Dems. This is no day for cowardice.

Huzzah Jennifer!
 
Posted by Amor Vincit Omnia on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 9:31 AM
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Jennifer

 
Wouldn't THAT be an interesting ticket? OMG...that would rock the house! Small donations volunteer time, every little bit helps...like my Grandmother says, "Every bit helps, even when the mouse peed in the ocean."
 
Posted by Jennifer on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 6:15 PM
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FoUrFiNgErS the Watchman

 
This shall require you to pay a little attention to understand why i post this, but it shoudl speak volumes for itself, it is the second time tonight i have quoted :

Goebbels at Nuremberg — 1934

by Joseph Goebbels

It is difficult to define the concept of propaganda thoroughly and precisely. This is especially true since, in past decades, it was subject to unfavorable, and in part extraordinarily hostile, definitions, on the part of us Germans. First, then, we must defend it. Those abroad sometimes claim that in the past we Germans were particularly knowledgeable in this area, and knew how to apply it, but that unfortunately is not consistent with the facts. We learned the consequences of our neglect all too clearly during the World War. While the enemy states produced unprecedented atrocity propaganda aimed at Germany throughout the whole world, we did nothing and were completely defenseless against it. Only when enemy foreign propaganda had nearly won over the greater part even of the neutral states did the German government begin to sense the enormous power of propaganda. It was too late. Just as we were militarily and economically unprepared for the war, so also with propaganda. We lost the war in this area more than in any other.

The cleverest trick used in propaganda against Germany during the war was to accuse Germany of what our enemies themselves were doing. Even today, large parts of world opinion are convinced that the typical characteristics of German propaganda are lying, crudeness, reversing the facts, and the like. One needs only to remember the stories that were spread throughout the world at the beginning of the war about German soldiers chopping off children's hands and crucifying women to realize that Germany then was a defenseless victim of this campaign of calumny. It neither had nor used any means of defense.

The concept of propaganda has undergone a fundamental transformation, particularly as the result of political practice in Germany. Throughout the world today, people are beginning to see that a modern state, whether democratic or authoritarian, cannot withstand the subterranean forces of anarchy and chaos without propaganda. It is not only a matter of doing the right thing; the people must understand that the right thing is the right thing. Propaganda includes everything that helps the people to realize this.

Political propaganda in principle is active and revolutionary. It is aimed at the broad masses. It speaks the language of the people because it wants to be understood by the people. Its task is the highest creative art of putting sometimes complicated events and facts in a way simple enough to be understood by the man on the street. Its foundation is that there is nothing the people cannot understand, but rather things must be put in a way that they can understand. It is a question of making it clear to him by using the proper approach, evidence, and language.

Propaganda is a means to an end. Its purpose is to lead the people to an understanding that will allow it to willingly and without internal resistance devote itself to the tasks and goals of a superior leadership. If propaganda is to succeed, it must know what it wants. It must keep a clear and firm goal in mind, and seek the appropriate means and methods to reach that goal. Propaganda as such is neither good nor evil. Its moral value is determined by the goals it seeks.

Propaganda must be creative. It is by no means a matter for the bureaucracy or official administration, but rather it is a matter of productive fantasy. The genuine propagandist must be a true artist. He must be a master of the popular soul, using it as an instrument to express the majesty of a genuine and unified political will. Propaganda can be pro or con. In neither case does it have to be negative. The only thing that is important is whether or not its words are true and genuine expressions of a people’s values. During its period of opposition, the National Socialist movement proved that criticism can be constructive, indeed, that in a time which the government is in the hands of destructive powers it may be the only constructive element.

The concept of public enlightenment is fundamentally different. It is fundamentally defensive and evolutionary. It does not hammer or drum. It is moderate in tone, seeking to teach. It explains, clarifies, and informs. It is, therefore, used more often by a government than by the opposition. The National Socialist state, growing out of a revolution, had the task of centrally leading both propaganda and education, uniting two concepts that are related but not identical, molding them into a unity that in the long term can serve the government and people.

Even during the time when we were in the opposition, we succeeded in rescuing the concept of propaganda from disfavor or contempt. Since then, we have transformed it into a truly creative art. It was our sharpest weapon in conquering the state. It remains our sharpest weapon in defending and building the state. Although this is perhaps still not clear to the rest of the world, it was obvious to us that we had to use the weapon with which we had conquered the state to defend the state. Otherwise we faced the danger that we could lose the people even though we had power, and that, without the people, we would lose power. We put what we had learned during our attack on the November pseudo-state in the service of our state. The great wealth of ideas and never failing creativity of our propaganda, proven during our struggle for power, was perfected to the last detail. Now we turned it to serve the state itself, to find meaningful ways and flexible forms to influence the people's thinking. The people should share the concerns and successes of its government. Its concerns and successes must therefore be constantly presented and hammered into the people so that it will consider the concerns and successes of its government to be its concerns and successes. Only an authoritarian government, firmly tied to the people, can do this over the long term. Political propaganda, the art of anchoring the things of the state in the broad masses so that the whole nation will feel a part of them, cannot therefore remain merely a means to the goal of winning power. It must become a means of building and keeping power.

This requires alert attention to the events of the day, and a trained and lively creativity that must include a complete knowledge of the soul of the people. The people must be understood in its deepest depths, or intuitively understood, for only then can one speak in a way that the people will understand. Propaganda must be the science of the soul of the people. It requires an organized and purposeful system if it is to be successful in the long run.

That is what we lacked during the war. That is where our enemy was superior to us. We must make up for that. We must take the techniques and dominance of the other side's opinion apparatus. Which is all they really had, and fill it with the fire of the soul and the glow of new ideas.

Propaganda, too, has a system. It cannot be stopped and started whenever one wishes. In the long run, it can only be effective in the service of great ideals and far-seeing principles. And propaganda must be learned. It must be led only by people with a fine and sure instinct for the often changeable feelings of the people. They must be able to reach into the world of the broad masses and draw out their wishes and hopes. The effective propagandist must be a master of the art of speech, of writing, of journalism, of the poster, and of the leaflet. He must have the gift to use the major methods of influencing public opinion such as the press, film, and radio to serve his ideas and goals.

This is particularly necessary in a day when technology is advancing. Radio is already an invention of the past, since television will probably soon arrive. On the one hand successful propaganda must be a master of these methods of political opinion, but on the other it may not become stale in using them. It must find new ways and methods every day to reach success. The nature of propaganda remains the same, but the means provided by advancing technology are becoming ever broader and far-reaching. One need only consider the revolutionary impact of the invention of radio, which gave the spoken word true mass effectiveness. The technology of propaganda has changed greatly in recent years, but the art of propaganda has remained the same.

Understood in this sense, propaganda has long since lost its odium of inferiority inherited from the past. It holds first rank among the arts with which one leads a nation, It is indispensable in building a modern state. It is something of a connecting link between government and people.

All propaganda has a direction. The quality of this direction determines whether propaganda has a positive or negative effect. Good propaganda does not need to lie, indeed it may not lie. It has no reason to fear the truth. It is a mistake to believe that the people cannot take the truth. They can. It is only a matter of presenting the truth to people in a way that they will be able to understand. A propaganda that lies proves that it has a bad cause. It cannot be successful in the long run. A good propaganda will always come along that serves a good cause. But propaganda is still necessary if a good cause is to succeed. A good idea does not win simply because it is good. It must be presented properly if it is to win. The combination makes for the best propaganda. Such propaganda is successful without being obnoxious. It depends on its nature, not its methods. It works without being noticed. Its goals are inherent in its nature. Since it is almost invisible, it is effective and powerful. A good cause will lose to a bad one if it depends only on its rightness, while the other side uses the methods of influencing the masses. We are, for example, firmly convinced that we fought the war for a good cause, but that was not enough. The world should also have known and seen that our cause was good. However, we lacked the effective means of mass propaganda to make that clear to the world. Marxism certainly did not fight for great ideals. Despite that, in November 1918 it overcame Kaiser, Reich, and the army because it was superior in the art of mass propaganda.

National Socialism learned from these two examples. It drew the correct practical conclusions from that knowledge. The ideal of a socialist national community did not remain mere theory with us, but became living reality in the thoughts and feelings of 67 million Germans. Our propaganda of word and deed created the conditions for that. Mastering them kept National Socialism from the danger of remaining the dream and longing of a few thousand. Through propaganda, it became hard, steely everyday reality.

That which we only imperfectly and inadequately understood during the war became a virtuously mastered art during the rise of the National Socialist movement. Today one can say without exaggeration that Germany is a model of propaganda for the entire world. We have made up for past failures and developed the art of mass influence to a degree that puts the efforts of other nations into the shadows. The importance the National Socialist leadership placed on propaganda became clear when it established a Ministry for Popular Enlightenment and Propaganda shortly after it took power. This ministry is entirely within the spirit of National Socialism, and comes from it. It unites what we learned as an opposition movement confronting the enemy and under persecution from an enemy system, sometimes more from necessity than desire. Recently some have tried to imitate this ministry and its concentration of all means of influencing opinion, but here, too, the slogan applies: "Often imitated, never equaled."

The organizational union of mass demonstrations, the press, film, radio, literature, theater, etc., is only the mechanical side to the matter. It is not so much that all these means are in one hand. The important thing is that this hand knows how to master and control them. Establishing a central office is not difficult. What is difficult is finding people who are experts in an area previously not a concern of the state.

We could not have done that ourselves if we had not been through the great school of our party. She was our teacher. During 14 years of opposition we gathered an enormous amount of knowledge, experience, wisdom, and ability. This made us able to use the wide-reaching methods of government propaganda without running the risk of losing the spirit behind them. Effective propaganda avoids any form of bureaucracy. It requires lightning-fast decisions, alert creativity and inexhaustible inventiveness. The machinery of the organization would remain lifeless and rigid if it were not constantly driven by the motor of the spirit and the idea.

It is, therefore, also wrong to think that a ministry could replace what the movement alone is able to do. Cooperation between the party and the government was necessary for the major successes that we are proud of. Only when all means of propaganda are concentrated and their unified application assured is it be possible to carry out major educational and propaganda battles, as we did before 12 November 1933 [the referendum Hitler called to approve Germany's withdrawal from the League of Nations] or 19 August 1934 [the referendum called to approve Hitler's absolute power after the death of Hindenburg], which were of true historical significance.

If such an art of active mass influence through propaganda is joined with the long-term systematic education of a nation, and if both are conducted in a unified and precise way, the relationship between the leadership and the nation will always remain close. From authority and following will develop that type of modern democracy for which Germany is the model for the entire world in the twentieth century.

That is also the basic requirement for any practical political activity. A government that wishes to be successful over the long term cannot ignore it. Its projects and plans would fail were they not supported by the people. But the people must understand them in order to accomplish them.

One can but smile when one looks over our borders at the efforts of parliamentary-democratic parties that are all concerned with this: "How can I tell my child?" A fear of the people is the characteristic of liberal government theory. It has set the people free, and now does not know what to do with them. The hunt for popularity usually leads to nothing other than concealing the truth and speaking nonsense. One dares not say what is right, and what one does say leads to disaster. But that is presumably what the people want. One no longer has the courage to say unpopular things, much less do them. The result is that major European problems are lost in useless debates while political, economic, and social crises of unprecedented magnitude face the nations.

There are times when statesmen must have the courage to do something unpopular. But their unpopular actions must be properly prepared, and must be put in the proper form, so that their peoples will understand. The man on the street is usually not as unreasonable as some think. Since it is he who usually has to bear the heaviest burdens that result from unpopular policies, he at least has a right to know why things are being done this way and not that way. All practical politics depends on its persuasiveness. It is no sign of wise leadership to acquaint the nation with hard facts over night. Crises must be prepared for not only politically and economically, but also psychologically. Here propaganda has its place. It must prepare the way actively and educationally. Its task is to prepare the way for practical actions. It must follow these actions step by step, never losing sight of them. In a manner of speaking, it provides the background music. Such propaganda in the end miraculously makes the unpopular popular, enabling even a government's most difficult decisions to secure the resolute support of the people. A government that uses it properly can do what is necessary without running the risk of losing the masses.

Propaganda is therefore a necessary life function of the modern state. Without it, seeking great goals is simply impossible in this century of the masses. It stands at the beginning of practical political activity in every area of public life. It is its important and necessary prerequisite.

Let me give several recent examples. I need only sketch the details. They are too fresh in our memories to require elaboration.

There are no parliamentary parties in Germany any longer. How could we have overcome them had we not waged an educational campaign for years that persuaded people of their weaknesses, harms, and disadvantages? Their final elimination was only the result of what the people had already realized. Our propaganda weakened these parties. Based on that, they could be eliminated by a legal act.

Marxism could not be eliminated by a government decision. Its elimination was the end result of a process that began with the people. But that was only possible because our propaganda had shown people that Marxism was a danger to both the state and society. The positive national discipline of the German press would never have been possible without the compete elimination of the influence of the liberal-Jewish press. That happened only because of the years-long work of our propaganda. Today, particularism in Germany is something of the past. The fact that it was eliminated by a strong central idea of the Reich is no accident, but rather it depended on psychological foundations that were established by our propaganda.

Or consider economic policy. Does anyone believe that the idea of class struggle could have been eliminated only by a law? Is it not rather the fact that the seeds we sowed in a hundred thousand meetings resulted in a new socialist structure of labor? Today employers and workers stand together in the Labor Front. The Law on National Labor is the foundation of our economic thinking, realizing itself more and more. Are not these social achievements the result of the long and tireless labor of thousands of speakers?

What about the shortage of foreign currency? This affects the people in serious ways. Propaganda once again is the key to dealing with the problem.

The Hereditary Farming Law, the idea of the Reich Agricultural System, market regulations in agriculture, all these need propaganda to show the people their importance, which is necessary if they are to succeed.

We could eliminate the Jewish danger in our culture because the people had recognized it as the result of our propaganda. Major cultural achievements such as the unique "Kraft durch Freude" are possible only with the powerful support of the people. The prerequisite was and is propaganda, which here too creates and maintains the connection to the people.

The Winter Relief last year raised about 350 million marks. This was not the result of taxation, but rather many gifts of every amount. Everyone gave freely and gladly, many of whom in the past had done nothing in the face of similar need. Why? Because a broad propaganda, using every modern means, presented the whole nation with the need for this program of social assistance.

45 million Reich marks of goods and services were provided. 85 million Reich marks worth of fuel were distributed. 130 million Reich marks worth of food were given out. Ten million Reich marks worth of meals were provided, and 70 million Reich marks worth of clothing.

Some of these achievements were the result of donations in kind, others the result of cash donations. Street collections, donations of a part of paychecks, contributions from companies, and gifts subtracted from bank accounts resulted in cash totaling 184 million Reich marks. 24 million marks alone were the result of “One Pot Sundays.” [On some Sundays, people were encouraged to have a simple meal at home, donating the money saved to the Nazi charity.] The Reich itself added 15 million marks to the contributions of the people. The railway system provided reduced or free shipping with a value of 14 million marks.

Of our population of 65,595,000, 16,511,00 were assisted by the Winter Relief. There were 150,000 volunteers. There were only 4,474 paid workers, of whom 4,144 were in the 34 regional party offices, and 230 at the national headquarters.

Propaganda and education prepared the way for the largest social assistance program in history. They were the foundation. Their success was that, over a long winter, no one in Germany went hungry or was cold.

Over 40 million people approved of the Führer's decision to leave the League of Nations on 12 November 1933. That gave him the ability to speak to the world in the name of the nation, defending honor, peace, and equality as the national ideals of the whole German people. The issues of disarmament were put on firm and clear foundations. Once again, propaganda was the foundation for the nation's unity on 12 November, and therefore of the freedom of action that the Führer had in foreign affairs.

Each situation brings new challenges. And each task requires the support of the people, which can only be gained by untiring propaganda that brings the broad masses knowledge and clarity. No area of public life can do without it. It is the never resting force behind public opinion. It must maintain an unbroken relationship between leadership and people. Every means of technology must be put in its service; the goal is to form the mass will and to give it meaning, purpose, and goals that will enable us to learn from past failures and mistakes and ensure that the lead National Socialist strength has given us over other nations will never again be lost.

May the bright flame of our enthusiasm never fade. It alone gives light and warmth to the creative art of modern political propaganda. Its roots are in the people. The movement gives it direction and drive. The state can only provide it with the new, wide-ranging technical means. Only a living relationship between the people, movement, and state can guarantee that the creative art of propaganda, of which we have made ourselves the world's master, will never sink into bureaucracy and bureaucratic narrow-mindedness.

Creative people made propaganda and put it in the service of our movement. We must have creative people who can use the means of the state in its service.

It is also a function of the modern state. Its reach is the firm ground on which the state must stand. It rises from the depths of the people, and must always return to the people to find its roots and strength. It may be good to have power based on weapons. It is better and longer lasting, however, to win and hold the heart of a people.


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Understanding the tools of propaganda will help one see it when it is being thrown at you from any direction.

Glad you are able to see this Jen, now comes more searching the rabbit hole to find out who'e behind the military industrial complex...
It keeps getting deeper.

respect,

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Posted by FoUrFiNgErS the Watchman on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 11:07 AM
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Jennifer

 
Sorry i have yet to respond to this post...I wanted to take the time to read it and of course time is something I am a bit short on at the moment...this...

"Propaganda as such is neither good nor evil. Its moral value is determined by the goals it seeks."

struck me most out of the article. I see truth in it and I suppose for the masses the idea of simplicity and repetition can be beneficial. I suppose that is where the responsibility of education comes in, rarely do we see individuals truly able to use critical thinking skills and there seems to be a specific weakness in our culture for comfortable consumerism....in many ways it is our greatest enemy...
 
Posted by Jennifer on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 8:28 PM
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Damien

 
My head hurts... Bravo, Jen!
 
Posted by Damien on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 12:53 PM
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Jennifer

 
I fell over after I posted the blog....haven't slept that great in months! LOL!!!
 
Posted by Jennifer on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 6:17 PM
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Domestic Errorist {Peace Punk}

 
Great blog, Jenn - I was terribly distressed by Cindy Sheehan's announcement, too. I think you've really started to get to the heart of the matter with this blog. But I think it now has to be called the "Military Industrial Media Complex" now. When all the major networks are owned by corporations that also supply weapons and profit from the war, of course they are implicit in the crime. It was overwhelming enough to think about overthrowing the Republicans, but now to think we have to overthrow the entire way our country does business? Sheesh....But we will not quit! We cannot quit! This is a dark, dark hour in our country - thanks for being one of the bright lights we can reach for!
 
Posted by Domestic Errorist {Peace Punk} on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 12:54 PM
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Jennifer

 
Thanks Mom...it has in many ways been a waking up for me...a sad waking up....BUT...it is possible to change the status quo. The people of this country just need to be made aware, once they are, they have always stepped up to the plate and held politicians feet to the fire! Which is what we MUST do now...the first step is getting the information out there...another reason why I love the innnernets :)
 
Posted by Jennifer on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 6:19 PM
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J

 
You're pulling back the curtain, and you know you're not supposed to do that!

The thing that serves us best is when no one party rules. Dems, Repubs, no matter, there has to be a check and balance so that the corps that the party's support have to pay more and more for their control. A healthy third party would further split the money machine.

I don't blame Cyndy, it must be hell to fight and fight and fight and never be able to really make a difference.
 
Posted by J on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 1:06 PM
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Jennifer

 
J...I would almost rather see a Repub in the house just to make them play politics...you are right, every time there has been one party rule the powers at be have gotten away with too much crap! At least if they are fighting and exposing each other citizens will have more info...
 
Posted by Jennifer on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 6:21 PM
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Jennifer

 
Uhhh...well, I can't say that I am brilliant. I have just been fortunate enough to start seeking information from alternative news sites...I freakin' despise passionately the popular media...the fact that they follow up Iraq deaths with Paris Hilton or Brittan Spears makes me sick. It is time for the media to do what it is supposed to do...they are PUBLIC airwaves and they are there to serve the public!
 
Posted by Jennifer on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 6:24 PM
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FoUrFiNgErS the Watchman

 
Correction since 1913...

see the Federal reserve act.

the day our republic died.

respect,
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Posted by FoUrFiNgErS the Watchman on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 3:31 PM
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Jennifer

 
Was that when the MIC was privatized? I was thinking it was right after WW II or during??? I understand the role of the FED and how it has been highly destructive, I was thinking more of the privatization of the military...
 
Posted by Jennifer on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 6:27 PM
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FoUrFiNgErS the Watchman

 
The Fed own the MIC, no money means no war... no money for the MIC means no anything.

The MIC is only a tool of the federal reserve bank and it's private investors for the furtherance of their agenda as were Hitler, Stalin, FDR and Churchill.

It would not matter if ti was private or not. The MIC is only a tool like any soldier the army discards so too will the MIC be discarded when the Rothschild's no longer need us.

A bankrupt country can't wage wars.

Power is in who controls the currency.
 
Posted by FoUrFiNgErS the Watchman on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 6:58 PM
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Jennifer

 
That makes sense...thanks for clearing that up for me...it goes in line with the current trend to privatize the hell out of EVERYTHING, including water...
 
Posted by Jennifer on May 30, 2007 - Wednesday - 8:29 PM
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