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Age: 39
State: California
Country: US
Signup Date: 3/3/2007
January 10, 2008 - Thursday 

Category: News and Politics

In?teg?ri|ty n. 3. the quality or state of being of sound moral principle; uprightness, honesty, and sincerity

 

The meaning and definition of the word integrity seems simple and straightforward, but in the world of American Politics, it is perhaps the most misused, abused, and elusive word spoken. However, the majority of Americans believe, that among desirable personality characteristics in those running for and holding political office, it is by far the most desired.

If there is one particular trait missing from the Hillary Clinton campaign, it is indeed, integrity. On both national and international issues, Clinton is simply one more piece to the Bush/Clinton political sandwich that has destroyed the majority of American ideals. Clearly calculating and career driven, Clinton is obviously not the candidate who will restore America's reputation in the world as the beacon of freedom, humanity, and all that is right but will rather lead this nation down its continued path to Imperialism through Corporatism.

For any American genuinely concerned about these issues to hear support for the Clinton campaign based on Clinton's sex is truly concerning. In spite of her voting record, continued elusive language in terms of the occupation of Iraq, the shrinking middle class, the value of the dollar, increasing power for corporations, illegal detention and torture of detainees, repeated violations of the Constitution, and her position on energy independence, she continues to enjoy broad support among some in the Progressive Movement. One only need look closely at Clinton's choice of language to determine that she continues to address these issues in a rather superficial way, lacking the integrity that America so badly needs.

Immediately before the primaries in New Hampshire, American media outlets focused the world's attention on the fact that Clinton showed some emotion during a question and answer period.

Reminiscent of the absurd question asked during the Democratic debate in Nevada, where a young college student inquired as to whether Hillary preferred pearls or diamonds, a woman in New Hampshire asked, "As a woman, I know it's hard to get out of the house and to get ready… and my question is very personal: how do you do it? How do you keep upbeat and so wonderful?" To this, Clinton answered, "It's not easy, and I could not do it if I just didn't passionately believe it was the right thing to do…I have had so many opportunities from this country - I just don't want us to fall back. This is very personal for me ... it is not just political... I see what's happening... we have to reverse it."

Sadly missing from any emotion Clinton has ever shown are tears for fallen soldiers or their families, the destruction of the entire society and nation of Iraq, which has killed thousands, and made millions homeless and impoverished,  and the continued assault on American civil liberties.

In fact, it is on these very important issues that Clinton continues to lead the American people towards the Bush doctrine. This is evidenced by her support of Imperialistic Bush policies to date, including the Iraq War, a possible attack on Iran and The Patriot Act. Even those who approve of Clinton's stance on these issues or those finding themselves forgiving of her apparent Bushesque blunderings, an alarm should sound at the clear contradiction between her words and actions.

In her victory speech, Clinton showed a real lack of integrity when she spoke of all that ails America, "The oil companies, the drug companies, the health insurance companies, the predatory student loan companies have had seven years of a president who stands up for them. It's time we had a president who stands up for all of you. I intend to be that president, to be a president who puts you first, your lives, your families, your children, your futures."

Nowhere, does Clinton acknowledge that the very corporations she criticizes here are funding her campaign. A short list includes; 18.36 million (representing the largest contributions) from the financial sector, 14.3 million from lawyers and lobbyists representing oil, insurance, pharmaceutical, and lending companies, over 8 hundred thousand from the energy industry, and close to 2.2 million from the military industrial complex and construction companies combined, many of whom are currently operating in Iraq.  

If the staggering numbers alone are not sounding the alarm bells enough for Americans to realize Clinton plans on using her power to enrich the elite in this country further, perhaps a look at Clintons funding in comparison to other presidential hopefuls will. Clinton willingly accepts funds from the defense industry where only John McCain outranks her. In the Oil and Gas industry, Clinton enjoys another cool second place, from lobbyists however; she takes first place leaving all other candidates behind with second in line taking close to half of the funds she has received to date.

Clearly, Clinton's actions and words do not match, leaving this writer to wonder how any one who wishes the direction of this country to change does not recognize these obvious warning signs. Perhaps the last seven years have left Americans so desperate and dumbfounded; they have decided lies from the mouth of a woman are perhaps easier to swallow, especially if they are followed by a shot of tears.

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herbert
herbert browne

 
I TOTALLY AGREE, Brendan... if you use their product, you support their cause. Why, even those hypocrite Buddhist monks in VietNam went out and bought Chevron (or maybe it was Shell... anyway, doesn't matter) with which to soak themselves before setting themselves on fire... and those Jewish apologists for the German military-industrial complex at Auschwitz were using Schick safety razors... the hypocrites! ^..^
 
Posted by herbert on January 12, 2008 - Saturday - 7:34 PM
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Jennifer

 
And yet...with all the info out there that PROVES she is a corporate hack, people will still vote for her just because they want to see a woman in the White House...shit, if that is all they want, I'll make the sacrifice!
 
Posted by Jennifer on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 7:49 AM
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Lis
LisAnn N

 
Woman in the White House, hmmmmmmm...do it Jen...please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Lis on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 4:45 PM
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Jennifer

 
LMAO...yes but what of the purple hair? I am afraid it might scare some voters off!
 
Posted by Jennifer on January 11, 2008 - Friday - 6:08 AM
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Tony

 
It's unfortunate that our politicians need money to run a campaign, but they do. It seems like Clinton is not breaking any laws and is taking the money from anyone or anywhere she can LEGALLY !!! IF Exxon wants to support her, why not take their money. It's one of the largest , if not largest CORPORATIONS IN THE WORLD.
Should the Americans that work for Exxon refuse their paycheck and quit because Exxon is a powerful company that makes huge profits. Should the shareholders refuse their dividends and turn in their stock that was going into their retirement portfolio because Exxon has a powerful lobby in D.C. that protects the corporations bottom line !!
Is Hillary hiding the money she gets from all the sources you sited or is it in the public record?
All these corporations have millions of Americans that depend on these corporations for their livelihood, their pensions, and for some well off Americans, their prosperity !!!
The president must work with the corporations, not destroy them !!! Dont you think ?
BTW I Dont work for any of these corporations !!!
 
Posted by Tony on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 8:10 AM
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Tony

 
Thanks, Nuncio, my point exactly. We need to publicly fund our elections and not allow any lobbiest, corporate, elite or any other special interest money into the mix. That way the only special interest will be the people !!!
We need to take back the air waves, t.v. cable , etc and demand that certain hours of the day are set aside TO inform the public. We need to disallow polling numbers weeks before any election because they in themselves can influence the outcome.
 
Posted by Tony on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 6:19 PM
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~xoxMemoreX~oxox~~~~~~~

 
Let remember that Hillary was a Walmart attorney before Bill, became president. Wow has't Walmart exploded in wealth, as have the Clintons. But the Health care they provide is minimal crap, for their employees. More and More manufacturing jobs are leaving, the country, not to mention companies like, IBM, that are renigging on their pension plans employess bought into. Only Edwards addresses coporations responsibility to its employees well at least in the U>S. Hillary wants us all on Govie Care, it will be about as good health care, and the Iraq war is Liberating. In other words another way to Oppress the well being of American citizens, in their pursuity of Health, thanks big daddy Hillary.

Lol I've always voted and never been polled, so Odd. Have any of you been polled? I think polls should be disallowed and also as regarded, more media Brain washing, non authentic crap!
 
Posted by ~xoxMemoreX~oxox~~~~~~~ on January 15, 2008 - Tuesday - 8:53 PM
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Kat

 
Thanks Tony for lending some sanity to this discussion!
 
Posted by Kat on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 4:27 PM
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Tony

 
I want a politician to take EXXONS money with their right hand and slap them around with their left when they deserve it. Great politicians can get away with that , it's called leadership !!! Missed you, MamA !!!
 
Posted by Tony on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 6:12 PM
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Misanthropic Tendencies

 
Hahaha.... you are being fooled.

Tony, I like you very much but don't be ignorant.
 
Posted by Misanthropic Tendencies on January 12, 2008 - Saturday - 12:18 AM
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Jennifer

 
Sorry I have not been around guys...I wanted to address Tony's comment and yours too Mama..and kind of everyone else's on this particular discussion. Tony, I think what is at stake here is determining who the President will be working for. Now I see your line of thinking in terms of the Exxon employees, and in answer to your question, No. I would not expect them to quit just because they worked for an immoral company. To my mind tho, there is a difference, Hillary or any other politician is not being hired by Exxon, they are being hired by us. Common sense tells me that if the person who signs my paycheck tells me to do something, I will do it, the 5 million voices telling me not to do it, I would pretty much tell to go to hell...
On to the public funding question...I have mixed feelings about it. On one hand the supreme court has ruled that limiting money is an infringement on free speech. Could we potentially put spending caps for the candidates and where ever their money came from would be their determination?
 
Posted by Jennifer on January 11, 2008 - Friday - 6:07 AM
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Tony

 
The Supreme Court is wrong and that is why the constitution needs to be ammended. THERE SHOULD BE NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST when it comes to our elected officials.
Thanks, Jennifer for putting up with me !!!
 
Posted by Tony on January 11, 2008 - Friday - 7:35 PM
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Lis
LisAnn N

 
Sadly too many people pay no attention to such "paltry" details as INTEGRITY. The cost goes uncounted I suppose, so long as it is presumed that someone else is fitting the bill, ... The dead? Civil liberties? Oil prices? Inflation? Recession? Depression? How much lower shall America descend? Another Clinton in the White House will fast track the descent. So yeah let's put Hillary into the White House just because, wow, she's a woman! Sadly some people just have to get hit hard in the groin before they're hurt enough to see clearly. Many thanks to you MamA for posting such a pointed reply.
 
Posted by Lis on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 5:19 PM
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Jennifer

 
Sometimes Lis, I wonder if we need another huge economic downturn just to humble us a bit. Chalmers Johnson says if we are lucky, another depression will be our best bet.
 
Posted by Jennifer on January 11, 2008 - Friday - 6:10 AM
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Lis
LisAnn N

 
Last I checked Jennifer, US is heading straightaway in that direction. I'm curious to see what sort of rationale the Bush boot licking/Neo-con/libs will come up with when we hit bottom.
 
Posted by Lis on January 11, 2008 - Friday - 3:59 PM
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Jennifer

 
I am not too sure. In a way, I think they believe we are not fighting mad. People are pissed. Yesterday I heard someone make a call to a talk radio show stating the obvious, "They are not doing what they were elected to do." And he said he was calling on all militia's, the Black Panthers, and some other group I can't remember right now, to rise up. Well, I would not go that far, but if people are calling in on major talk shows saying this shit...I think it is evidence of serious civil unrest.
 
Posted by Jennifer on January 11, 2008 - Friday - 5:43 PM
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Smith
Steven B. Smith

 
corporate money and corporate operations are what's killing the planet, are what's killing american freedom, are what's killing our spirit. corporations are not entities - they should not be allowed to contribute to politicians or express opinions. when they break the law - which they all do all the time - their officers should go to jail. corporations are the 1 evil in today's world - just a continuation of the rich taking all they can grab and fucking the rest of us over.
 
Posted by Smith on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 3:49 PM
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Jennifer

 
Sweet justice!
 
Posted by Jennifer on January 11, 2008 - Friday - 6:16 AM
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Peace, Love and Unity !

 
Totally with Tony on this, Peace,Margaret
 
Posted by Peace, Love and Unity ! on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 2:05 PM
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~pink is for peace~
Sharon Wetmore

 
I fully believe what you say to be true Tony. She just seems to get a bad rap because of her name and the fact she is a woman. The media has tried to bias the public against her also. Money she needs just like all of the others. She has not done any of the things that I have seen others do. Do they cry about anything besides the fact that they will lose?
 
Posted by ~pink is for peace~ on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 11:46 AM
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Smith
Steven B. Smith

 
if you research hillary, you'll find out she's always been a power hungry lying thieving politician. i'm astounded at americans lack of knowledge about essential facts. we've traveled through 10 countries in the past two years, and my wife and i have found a political awareness in other populations totally lacking in americans. like the movie Sicko points out, in france and england, the politicians fear the voters, while in america the voters fear the politicians.

americans have the government they let happen. americans have the blood of over 1 million innocent iraqis on their hands. americans are war criminals.
 
Posted by Smith on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 3:54 PM
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Mark
Mark Koolio

 
All the more reason why we need campaign finance reform. Money is NOT SPEECH! A corporation is NOT a person and should not be entitled to human rights. Edwards made his money going after abusive corporations for their neglect and indifference to ordinary people. Public financing of elections is the solution to this incredible abuse of powerful moneyed interests. The Sherman anti-trust act should be brought back by the next president to start REGULATING corporate power. Carter was the last to break up AT&T and there is no reason why the next president should not break up GE from owning NBC. You want to be a defense contractor, fine, but you can't own a broadcast network. Cross pollination of industries and conglomerates are what is choking our democracy.
 
Posted by Mark on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 9:05 AM
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The Graduate Zombie

 
Couldn't agree more here. Thanks, Mark.

Mindy
 
Posted by The Graduate Zombie on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 3:45 PM
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The Captain

 
Amen, Brother Mark!
Americans should demand this. Elections, state, local and federal, should go through financing reform so no one is left out of the process. If everyone had an equal playing field, as far as money goes, then it would be easier to hear everyone.
 
Posted by The Captain on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 9:16 AM
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Tony

 
I'm with Mark !!!. Solutions, not accusations !!!
 
Posted by Tony on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 6:30 PM
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Benae Hussein (A Proud Army Veteran!!!)

 
Ahh the price of the White house, I wonder how much it would cost if it was the Black house lol.
 
Posted by Benae Hussein (A Proud Army Veteran!!!) on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 8:25 AM
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Benae Hussein (A Proud Army Veteran!!!)

 
Coming soon instead of the Lincoln bedroom it will be call the Morgan Stanley bedroom.
 
Posted by Benae Hussein (A Proud Army Veteran!!!) on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 8:27 AM
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Mark
Mark Koolio

 
(LOL) nice one, Benae. We have the Staples Center for the Lakers. Let's have the Halliburton bathroom in the West-wing.

~Mark
 
Posted by Mark on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 9:07 AM
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The Captain

 
I like it. And the WH could have a tall golden arch erected outside that says..."Over 6 Billion Screwed!"

Has anyone seen the movie Idiocracy? I saw it on HBO the other day. Someone told me not to watch it because it was so "dumb" but that made me want to watch it even more. It's America in the future, 2025 I believe, and corportations do run everything. Gatorade has taken over water because everything needs electrolites, but crops have died becuase of it. Everyone is dumb because no one thinks. It's actually quite funny and mirrors some of what goes on today. Check it out if you have a chance. Not the best film, but certainly can see what the future will be if we don't begin to question our choices.
 
Posted by The Captain on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 9:47 AM
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Benae Hussein (A Proud Army Veteran!!!)

 
Yeah I watched it because my son said it was funny, I will say I laughed a lot.
 
Posted by Benae Hussein (A Proud Army Veteran!!!) on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 11:38 AM
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Jennifer

 
LOL...I saw that one in theaters...it is scarier when LARGE! LOL
 
Posted by Jennifer on January 11, 2008 - Friday - 6:18 AM
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Rosemary Nissen-Wade

 
As a non-American who seldom gets to know the finer points and nuances, this is illuminating indeed! Thank you. Unfortunately, who governs the United States is a matter if great importance to the rest of the world too.
 
Posted by Rosemary Nissen-Wade on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 9:14 AM
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Lis
LisAnn N

 
That indeed is unfortunate.
 
Posted by Lis on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 4:51 PM
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mary (CRONE)

 
I don't believe she won NH fairly, either. There is too much being said about the huge differences between the hand counted votes and the Deibold machine votes used there. 'Scanned by the machines' they said. Many are saying that the republicans want her to win for the dems because they can beat her. I tend to believe that she's in the back rooms smokin' cigars with them all anyway. These corps don't give politicians millions just because they 'believe' in them, for GAWD's sake!!! They buy politicians and after the win, they get what they bought, while we get screwed.

Oh, and Tony up there? Are you aware that there really are people who choose not to take the better paying job so as not to feed the military industrial complex, and take a job that allows them to keep their integrity instead? Yep. Around here it happens often.

It hasn't panned out so well for us so far--this buying of the president--has it?

Anyhow, Jenn, you're smokin' hot today! Muuuaaaah!
 
Posted by mary (CRONE) on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 10:59 AM
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Jennifer

 
This one just cam to me on the way home from work! LOL...Must be those darn kids!

Anyway, have you read this?

http://www.bradblog.com/
 
Posted by Jennifer on January 11, 2008 - Friday - 6:15 AM
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mary (CRONE)

 
YAY! Hee- I knew it! Thanks, Jenn.
 
Posted by mary (CRONE) on January 11, 2008 - Friday - 6:34 PM
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Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death!

 
Mary...

This here:

"Oh, and Tony up there? Are you aware that there really are people who choose not to take the better paying job so as not to feed the military industrial complex, and take a job that allows them to keep their integrity instead? Yep. Around here it happens often."

AMEN to it! Last year I was going through some tough times financially and was duped sort of into taking the job of state tax collection in Maine. I held the job for less than quarter of a year because I just couldn't stomache it.

I watch the politicians in my state (the senators in particular) vote for more surveillance and less civil liberties, more torture and less oversight, and more funding for this ridiculous war on a regular basis and so helping to collect their paychecks was more than I could bare. The thing is though, that was by far the absolute best paying job I ever had.

On top of the decent salary there was commision to be had from what I collected. It honestly made me ill to think about and at this point I try to pretend it never happened :)

Anyway....Jenn, this was a GREAT write and I couldn't agree more with you. Hillary's voting record is absurd in comparison to the things she verbally champions. She has voted against judicial oversight of torture, she's voted for the Patriot Act and it's reauthorization and as much as she claims to be sorry for her mistakes in voting for the war in Iraq she didn't fail to vote for actions against Iran.

The whole thing makes me feel defeated. I DON'T want her in....no matter how badly I look forward to a woman in the white house.

-Peace
 
Posted by Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death! on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 2:25 PM
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Tony

 
Oh, and Tony up there? Are you aware that there really are people who choose not to take the better paying job so as not to feed the military industrial complex, and take a job that allows them to keep their integrity instead? Yep. Around here it happens often."

Yes,sweet Sass, I am. I wish we didn't need a military industrial complex, but until the world comes to the same mind that war and murder are the greatest evil on earth , this country needs to protect ourselves. Until then I wish people of integrity do take those jobs !!!
 
Posted by Tony on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 6:39 PM
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Jennifer

 
But Tony, I am not sure that is really the issue in terms of the MIC...Britain has a powerful military yet their economy does not rely on its success. Sadly, due to bad poor trade agreements, and insane economic policies, the MIC and the service industry are about all we have left. Michael Moore and Chalmers Johnson both make the argument that for years Britain and France had military based economies, after WWII they changed this and started to build an economy on job creation through providing services to their citizens. ie health care.
 
Posted by Jennifer on January 11, 2008 - Friday - 6:13 AM
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Tony

 
Profit from murder. Profit was sickness. We are such a moral nation. The last line of your comment is SO the way to go.
 
Posted by Tony on January 11, 2008 - Friday - 7:40 PM
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Jennifer

 
What type of campaign financing do they have in Germany Su?
 
Posted by Jennifer on January 11, 2008 - Friday - 6:20 AM
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Tony

 
I've read that there are shelves full of proposed solutions, bills in Congress etc. etc. but there's no real will to act and no consensus. So it is said that many Americans think any restriction on raising money is against the U.S. Constitution. I don't know if it is true, I just read it.


The Constitution needs to be updated !!! That is where all our problems and all our solutions lie.
 
Posted by Tony on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 7:15 PM
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Evereno

 
Jen, I appreciate your thoughts on Clinton. I will refrain from commenting specifically on the issue since I am sure you have a good idea of my thoughts regarding her; and her candidacy. While my world view differs from your perspective, we are in agreement that their is a definite need for people of integrity to enter public service.

Lastly, while I am attempting to hold my tongue, I find that I agree with your assessment that Clinton (like too many politicians) is hypocritical and is disingenuous.
 
Posted by Evereno on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 1:46 PM
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Jennifer

 
Are you ready for this Evereno? Form the mouth of one hard-core liberal...I appreciate the fact that at least the Republicans are being honest about staying in Iraq...I may not believe their motives, but at least we know that if they are elected we will stay. That is more than I can say about most Dems.
 
Posted by Jennifer on January 11, 2008 - Friday - 6:21 AM
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Paul
Paul Harvey

 
The short form is - did she vote to go to war in Iraq? Yes.

Did she vote for the Kyl/Lieberman amendment which, in essence, legally allowed the President to go after Iran if he chose to do so. Yes.

Anyone voting yes on both of these issues has no business in office.
 
Posted by Paul on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 1:59 PM
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Jennifer

 
I hear you Paul, what boggles my mind is those who say they want out of Iraq, disagree so passionately with the Bush doctrine and yet they still support her. Why? Because she is a woman, that is just as awful as saying I would vote for a man because he is a man. UGH!
 
Posted by Jennifer on January 11, 2008 - Friday - 6:25 AM
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Paul
Paul Harvey

 
There's really no sense to it all. Democrats as a group want out of Iraq, yet New Hampshire Democrats came out in support of her.

Did I miss something?
 
Posted by Paul on January 12, 2008 - Saturday - 3:11 AM
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The Graduate Zombie

 
Wonderful as usual, Jennifer. All this concerns me... What is another big point of contention for me in regards to Clinton is big entertainment. Her ties to mainstream entertainment establishment is very disturbing to me. Copyright/left, intellectual property, and the creative commons is one of my personal core issues (it comes right after foreign policy and general political dependence on corporations). Her tendency to try and force legislative measures in dealing with violence in television and video games is one aspect, but that mask a more sinister thing that is happening- namely, that she is determined to help the entertainment industry in their quest to control entertainment and culture in the mass media. It's pretty clear to me where that would end up, the eventual destruction of independent alternatives in culture. Cory Doctorow has a great article this week about this in Locus Magazine, where he discusses the most important of artist rights- free speech. If everyone needs to major label system to get along, and they are the ones who own the rights to everyone's music, then alternative cultural voices will not be heard- and that is almost true, now. It's clear to me, however, that the success of bands like Gogol Bordello show that these alternatives put forth by the independent music community (based on classic punk idealism of DIY) to sharing culture works. Gogol Bordello was everywhere last year not because some major label was backing them, shoving them down our collective throats because they were perceived as the next big thing, but because the music they made is good and it's true. By backing the music industries crusade against "pirates" she is endorsing their shadow agenda of making the creation of culture a one way street. Only those inside the system will decide what is good and what gets promoted and heard. It in other words, takes the folk culture aspect of the various forms of rock and roll, and makes them elite again, and it makes us simply passive consumers as opposed to active participants in our culture- which is of course, the entire idea behind punk and various variants of the counter-culture, to become actively engaged in your music community, and hence actively engaged in your culture, not just a consumer of that culture. Frankly, that is the point that the mainstream entertainment industry does not get.

So, to sum up, Hilary will never get my vote. In case anyone is curious, Ralph Nader backed John Edwards... For whatever that is worth...

Sorry for the rant. ;-) You rock Jennifer.

Mindy
 
Posted by The Graduate Zombie on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 2:23 PM
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Jennifer

 
Nader backed Edwards? Hmmm...not too sure what I think anymore. I am just sick with all of it! The majority of your comment resonated with me in terms of media consolidation and free speech concerns. These are all issues that are dear to me, because I view a free, open, artistic, educational, and informative media as the fifth pillar of democracy. Without it, what do we really have?
 
Posted by Jennifer on January 11, 2008 - Friday - 6:27 AM
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Paul
Paul Harvey

 
John Edwards voted for the Iraq war. Every senator who voted for that war knew the vote for what it was, trying to not appear "soft on terror." Voting for war out of fear of political retribution means you have no business in office.

Not one senator really believed in the weapons of mass destruction horseshit, and if they did they have no business in office either.

If someone votes for war and death on a large scale because they're afraid to do the right thing, do you really want that person as your president?
 
Posted by Paul on January 10, 2008 - Thursday - 10:25 PM
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