Its funny how Relic states "I have not provided the counter-evidence to your theory because I believe it has alreay been presented to you, yet you have refused to acknowledge it".

Really now. How hard would it be to type a simple explanation to building 7?

You had the time to rant and rave like an idiot, yet you cant back your claim. Same pattern every time.

On a different note, when are we gonna see LC3?
You have got to include a little more on the pentagon, the hijackers and the "passengers".

Most of the passengers DO NOT come up in the social security death index.

But im sure you knew that. Keep up the good work.

2012 comes soon my friend

 

Every "debunking" that attemps to back up the official story that I've read so far has defied all logic as well as several laws of physics and chemistry. Some people will never accept the truth even when there is a mountain of evidence, simply because Faux news says that it is nonsense. I wonder how those in mainstream news manage to sleep at night. They can't all be as ignorant as they seem.

I hope you include some of Professor Jones' metalurgical analysis that shows thermate use in Loose Change - Final Cut

Keep fighting for the truth man.

Cheers

 

funny you mention that, Locked.  i'm going through my interview with Dr. jones right now. :D
 

Excellent. I can't wait to see it. I would love to meet Professor Jones some day to thank him for all that he has done. I'd like to meet you and the rest of the louder than words crew as well. You probably wouldn't have much reason to be in my neck of the woods though, so I'll just have to say thank you here. Your film has helped me awaken many people to the gaping holes in the official story. Thank you.
 

"I hate the Bush admin too, but I'm not stupid enough to believe they'd kill people for money."

That's the funniest line out of all of them

 

i think a few of them are friends with the Screw Loose Change profile.   I reconize a few of them spamming on my videos.
 

LMAO!!! i didnt know sheep had internet
 

some people are just afraid to admit the truth... so sad what our country is becoming.. or shall i say what has become.. just getting worse than i ever imagined...
 

Yeah, I got something for you sheep that follow him. Go look up all that stuff in the movie on the Internet.  It's open to the public.  Go look at all those quotes.  They're on the Internet somewhere open to the public.  If Avery's right, why isn't the government doing anything to him?  Why'd Osama admit that he did it?  Are you afraid of the truth?  Are you afraid to know that this country's good and doesn't keep secrets?  (BTW, I'm doing the same crap as you do)

 

watch the confession videos man and then compare the poor quality footage to real actual pictures and discription of what the FBI has on him and you'll notice that none of it match up. And why arent the government doing anything to him.. because he is just one person out of the whole united states of america...... its jsut like the same topic of immigrants of a cop had to jail or kill and illegal imigrant then jails would be full and same with cemetaries...... if the government had to jail or kill every dylan avery then there wouldnt be room for real criminals.... they dont care about just one person
 

Haddy, thanks for the laugh man.  I love when morons like you reply.
 

I think this is quite possibly the most ridiculous comment I've ever read.

Um...yeah...Fat, fake, gold wearing Osama admitted to it...Were you born an idiot or is that just something that developed over the years?

LMAO. The US doesn't keep secrets??? wtf color is the sky in your world?

 

 

RD Productions said "Why'd Osama admit that he did it?"
The FBI's own website says that they don't have enough evidence to link Bin Laden to the attacts on 9/11.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13664.htm

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htm
 

O.   M.   G...  what an idiot.  he said "the 'Majority' of the official story is true."  does anyone else see the stupidity of that statement?  i'm gonna fucking shoot one of these narrow minded assholes any day now!
 

Rather then complaining that Avery is wrong, why dont you get off your ass and crate a counter documentary against loose change. That goes out to the skeptics that have no knowledge of what their government is capable of, if you look at history you will find that mant deaths have been caused by schemes conjured by the government. Its reeally not that suprising, you must realize that the Bush administration is using our need for vengeance to blind us from reasoning, why has no one question 9/11 but rather wanted results in the form of bombing and death to the so called enemy. Have you people not noticed that every chance they get, they show a moment of the war taking place which is then followed by a remembrance of 9/11. The media is trying to keep 9/11 fresh in our minds so no one question any wars that supposedly are putting an end to the terror. I am not suprised at all that the government is supspected of such atrocities , Stalin committed murder on his own people and Hitler used other as a scape goat what ever the means the cause will prevail!!! Ponder that before you say any one is wrong for accusing the government.
 

In my opinion, as soon as "name calling" starts to appear in response to documentaries like Loose Change, they start to loose credibility. For everyone who thinks Loose Change is a bunch of BS, why dont you do this. Lets pretend there is no Loose Change documentarty at all and consider what is left. It is not like Loose Change is an isolated presentation. There are countless other documentaries, studies, research etc., all coming up with very similar conclusions. If people are going to attack Dylan and Loose Change, and are truly trying to prove the documentary he made is false, then they better be ready to disprove all the rest of the countless resources that are available for anybody to look at. If Loose Change is such an obvious false documentary, why is there such an effort to debunk it? The most important thing in this whole situation is for people to investigate and research all they can and come up with their own conclusions. I find Loose Change to be just one part of an enormous amount of evidence that is, by the day, accumulating all over the country. Lastly, I think when people like Dylan and those who support him are verbally attacked with really immature name-calling, I dont even see the need to respond. Underneath all this, isnt Dylan(and many others) just asking for some questions to be answered? Is it so wrong to question what is presented to us by the media and our govt? In summation, is it so wrong to think for yourself, draw your own conclusions and present that opinion? Isnt that what free speech is all about?
 

Hey Dylan, how come you haven't debated with Mark Roberts if your evidence is so strong?
 

because people like you and mark roberts and a waste of energy.
 

nothing but ignorant and shallow minds!

KEEP DOING THE GREAT WORK.. you've opened up many eyes!

 

For the people who continue to "debate" Loose Change by calling them idiots and make no effort to disprove their claims, you are the same people who believe the official report of Kennedy's assasination. Is it possible that something other then what the government claims could have really happened?  US government is full of inconsistencies that any person who cares to know could see.  FYI check out the Warren Commission's report of Kennedy's death and then tell me we always get honest information.

 

I've read all these comments. And I pretty much have the same thing to say to every jackass who has wasted our time with their bitching.

Before you go opening your mouth again, debunking Loose Change, or anything involved with 9/11, do some fucking research. Because you just sound like a complete moron to anyone who has. At least for myself, I've followed their research. I didn't start to open MY mouth until I had seen and read enough. It's the same god damn concept with any subject, animals, a language to fucking geometry.. Now you're not going to go tell a vet how to do his job? Or a Russian how to speak Russian, when all you know is that it exists basically.

It's the same god damn thing with Dylan & Korey, and MOST 9/11 truth people.. Do you think we've only spent a couple hours researching & educating ourselves? Or all it took was watching an hour and a half movie and we were hooked? Fuck that! I've spent countless nights staying up until 3am because I could not STOP. It was so overwhelming I couldn't stop reading.

Then I hear morons like you people bitching and moaning and saying how open minded you are... Well you may be openminded, but apparently you have no idea what the HELL you're talking about. Because if you REALLY knew, if you really knew everything we knew, you wouldn't be here bitching.

So do Dylan & Korey & 9/11 truth people a favor... Until you can explain to people about Operation tripod, or who Tom Kenney is, or who Stanly Hilton is, or give us ONE logical explanation to why building 7 wasn't even mentioned in the 9/11 commision.. You'll just sound look like a complete idiot to those of use who can.  

 

 

You mean ad hominem isn't the pinnicle of debating strategy? There are a whole bunch of politician who don't seem to have gotten that memo...
 

I have to agree with Dan. 

"I hate the Bush admin too, but I'm not stupid enough to believe they'd kill people for money."  is undeniably the funniest thing I have read in a long time.  It proves beyond all doubt that these people are totally disconnected with reality.

The really sad part is that out of all of these "hate e-mails", not a single one of them actually attempts to refute any of the evidence about 9/11.  None of them even MENTION it!  Not exactly the best way to present your case.

 

PS It was great to see you in LA and I can't wait for FINAL CUT! 

 

the only thing these guys have done in their attempt to discredit loose change is helped dylan and team in their quest to make a near perfect 9/11 truth video. all these criticisms, dylan and team are taking in consideration while putting together the FINAL CUT. all these suggestions of, 'why haven't you interviewed victims or eyewitnesses for yourselves', and 'false facts' being used, are pointing out the weaknesses...weaknesses that can be easily fixed. by their criticism and pointing out of holes and mistakes in loose changes' argument, the final cut will only be that much more powerful of a film. listen to what these 'debunkers', if you will, have say..and shove it in their face with the FINAL CUT! keep up the hard work! it WILL pay off!
 

oh yes, and how about talking about 'ABLE DANGER' in the final cut. adds more to the idea of an inside job. perhaps get together with the guy who made "Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime". he talks about it.
 

Did anybody else watch screw loose change? It was the stupidest video ever. These kids except that all the answers are provided for them, that then don't even need to look. I thought the funniest one was the I figured out that this stuff's phony because you never interviewed a relative/friend of a 9/11 victim. Alex Jones, the person who help create this video, was a co worker with someone who died in 9/11. What a idiot.

Don't Believe bullshit these people say.

 

"althought the official explanation of the attacks on 9-11 have some gaps, the majority is correct"

 

Just like his grammer be correct, fucking moronic sheep.

 

Congrats on being featured in Vanity Fair man. Keep spreading truth. Make these close-minded people shut up and put their foot in their mouths cause they dont know shit. POWER TO YOU AND THE PEOPLE MY FRIEND :)
 

OMG, I know relic his name is dylan driggers. OMG dude. He's even one of my top 8. OMG...
 

dlam down man. your on alot of pages just look at daniels it shows your name like 5 times including mine.
 

easy ethan.  relic might stomp your n00b H4L0 a$$ to death all the way from Nazi, Germany (wait, that's not even a real physical place...)

and i thought dylan avery was a goofy name. :D 

 

lol dylan your awesome.
 

"it is not the obligation of our governement to give us these answers. read the declaration of indpendence. it is the obligation of us to demand these answers from our governement."

 

OH so true!!

 

I think it just comes down to a lot of people being unwilling to admit that we (meaning the United States and more specifically the people controlling it) are the shining example of evil in the 21st century to all but ourselves. I was talking to a friend of mine just today about how it was that so much of the population of, for example, Nazi Germany or Cold War Russia could be so in favor of such illogical things. I think people just can't see the wood for the trees (is that how it goes?). But that 20/20 is going to be a bitch...
 

I am a believer in God and the Bible but I do not believe in so-called "Christianity" and its version, translation, and interpretation of the Holy Scriptures.


Please take the time to refernce the scriptures that I will quote and take this information into consideration before you dismiss this as rubbish and "conspiracy theory."


I believe that mankind is currently living in the "last days." I believe that our present world will soon come to an end. This world will be replaced with a "new earth," a paradise earth in which dwells righteousness and peace. (2 Peter 3:13) I believe that 9/11 was a part of Bible prophecy. This decption is carried out by the symbolic 'beast' which has "two horns liketh a lamb but speaketh as a dragon." Revelation chapter 13 verses 11 and 14.

Revelation chapter 13 mentions these "beasts" which cometh out of the "sea." The "sea," when used in other Biblical passages can symbolize peoples, especially people who are alienated from the true God. There are scriptures in the Bible which liken the turbulence and unsteadiness of the "sea" to wicked humans. Isaish chapter 57 verse 20; Isaiah 60 verse 5;; as well as Revelation chapter 17 verses 1 and 15 uses the Biblical terminologies "seas" and "waters" to symbolize mankind, as a whole, which is alienated from the true God. Also reference Daniel chapters 7, verses 2, 3, 17, and 23, as well as Revelation chapter 21 verse 1.


Also, not to get off track, Revelation chapters 13 and 17 uses the symbols of "beasts" to depict political world powers, BEasts are used elsewhere in scripture to depict world empires, notably the empires of ancient Babylonia, Media-Persia, Greece, and Rome.

Also secular governments have used "beasts' as symbols of their governments. In Egypt, the serpent figured prominently, the uraeus, the sacred asp, appearing on the headdress of the Pharaohs. However, Egypt was also represented by the bull, as was Assyria. Media-Persia (Iran-Iraq) used the eagle (the shields of the Medes bore the golden eagle; the PErsians bore an eagle attached to the head of a lance). Athens was designated by the owl; Rome, the eagle; Great Britain is designated by the lion; the United States, the eagle. From the most ancient times China has been symbolized by the dragon. Also well known are the Russian "bear" and the German "two-headed eagle."

That the beasts sybolized in the Bible books of Daniel and Revelation represent political kingdoms or governments, exercising rulership and authority, is clearly stated. (Daniel 7:6, 12, 23; 8:20-22; Revelation 16:10; 17:3, 9-12) A consideration of the Biblical passages reveals that, while these political 'beasts' vary in symbolic form, yet all have certain characteristics in common. All are shown as standing in opposition to God's rule by the Messianic Kingdom over mankind. They are also depicted as in opposition to God's "saints," or " holy ones," his true covenant people, first the Jewisn nation, then the true Christian church or congregation. All the beasts are represented as very aggressive, and in some places, VERY DECEPTIVE in nature, seeking the dominant position over the nations or peoples within the reach of their POWER. Compare Daniel 7:17, 18, 21; 8:9-11, 23, 24; Revelation 13:4-7, 11, 15; Revelation 17:12-14.

Many Bible commentators endeavor tp limit the fulfillment of the visions of the 'beasts' in the Book of Daniel so that it does not extend beyond the time when Jesus Christ was on the earth, at which time the Roman Empire was the dominant power. The prophecies themselves, however, make plain that they extend beyond that time. The final forms of the 'beasts' are shown as reaching down to the 'arrival of the time for God's saints to take possession of the kingdom' in the appointed "time of the end." Then the Messiah destroys such beastly opposition for ALL time. (Daniel 7:21-27; 8:19-25; also compare Revelation 17 verses 13 and 14; as well as chapter 19 verses 19 and 20.)

It may also be noted that Jesus Christ expressly foretold that opposition to the Messianic Kingdom would continue into the "time of the end.," so that his disciples would be "hated by ALL the nations." (MAtthew 24:3, 9-14) This obviously does NOT allow for ANY nation, particularly world powers, to be excluded from possible identification with the final forms or expressions of the symbolic 'beasts.'



 

Both sides here are being stupid. Look, Loose Change is a great documentary. It fully convinced me that there was something wrong with that day in September. But even i see things wrong with it. (The only things i see wrong with it deal with the Pentagon, though.) I'm trying to say that you can't stand behind that film 100% because you cant even stand behind your own government 100%. What you have to do is make your mind up for yourself, and I would love to see Loose Change hit theatres, mainly because it's the strongest attention grabbing film on 9/11 made so far, though there are ones that i think stand just as good if not better fact and evidence wise.

As far as stupid questions go, "Why doesn't the government just kill you then if you know so much?!" is high ranking. The MK Ultra program is closed.

 

To anyone who could say. "I hate the Bush admin too, but I'm not stupid enough to believe they'd kill people for money".

And Then IMMEDIATELY follow it with  "I figured out that this stuff's phony because you never interviewed a relative/friend of a 9/11 victim. You also couldn't get to a person who was there on the events"

I say the following: Idiot, did you even watch it? There was an interview of a guy that was IN THE FUCKING BUILDING!!!  There were interviews of firefighter that were ON THE SCENE!!!

My favorite shit about Loose Change haters is they say it puts up "false facts".  (I dont think it's good to make your point with an oximoron) Meanwhile these people who seem to be so knowledgeable but up absolutely ZERO facts whatsoever, and dont disprove any of the films actual claims.  It is regretable that you simply lack the coping mechanism to accept that its' not all good here.  There are evil men in power, It's only when you accept it that you can begin to do something about it.

And to Dylan I say, if you EVER stop doin what you're doing Imma punch you in the eyeball. 

 

Peace

 

Great film, the only issue that comes to mind is that you need to have an interview or at least some footage of one of the "hijackers" alive and well.
 

Are people really so afraid of what the government is actually doing that they will defend it blindly?  Or are they too embarrased to admidt they voted for the wrong guy?  How ever in the case of Bush and Kerry I'm not sure there was a good choice.

NO ONE really knows what happened on 9/11 (or in London for that matter),  but Dylan's film presents scientific facts that the government denies as science. Those 'gaping holes' in the official explanation are enough to ask questions, questions that the government says they don't have to answer, Why? Governments have been manipulating and killing their people since 'government' came into existence, it has only shifted from the King ruling the church and the gates of heaven to Secret Societies playing god.  Have you ever heard of Hitler? Oh but the new said other wise, well did you know there are only 5 news channels?  5 is an easy number to control.  
 

Damn it! Why can't you Loose Change guys be completely perfect and make a flawless documentary that answers every single question about 9/11?!?!? Pure incompetence... ;)
 

You have a very powerful mind for your age. I will congratulate you on bringing up some amazing points. There are more questions than answers as we can see by what happened on 9/11 I believe that the people who attempt to debunk 9/11 conspiracies are the ones that want the truth to not be heard. I believe its also a government tactic because what that does is it causes confusion from both sides of the debate leaving the truth lost in space. It goes well for the people that still believe the official story because it suits to their conveniance because they don't want to believe the conspiracies as they are easily dismissed as "liberal propaganda" it suits those right wing republicans because they can easily say "There you see! this debunks the conspiracies so they must be right! anyways back to work" and they go on right ahead and still stick with the lie without measuring evidence from both sides. Confusion is a tactic often used by governments and right wing extremists... therefore I have created a very cool picture for them...



 

Hey bud, if you think that every debunker out there is right wing and would never believe in the theories...

Alex Jones is a right-wing libertarian.  Let's see what he is against..

- Gun Control
- United Nations
- Public Schools
- Illegal immigration
- Feminism
- Environmentalism

So according to your logic, Alex Jones should be siding with the official story and not be owner of Infowars or Prison Planet...

Then there is myself, who believes the White House should put a restraining order on George Bush and stay away for at least 100 miles.  The man should not be near the world's most powerful building in the world making decisions that affect both hemispheres.

Another thing, Truth is the story AS IS, and would not involve hiding information, quote mining, strawman arguments, cropping images, manipulating footage, or dupe sources.

Reminds me of Loose Change

 

250 BILLION?!

That's more then half of the world reserve and you expect all of it to fit under one truck?!



 

250 BILLION?!

That's more then half of the world gold reserves, and you expect to fit all of that in one truck?!



 

1st off, Thank you for all the info you have helped provide to ppl about the truth.  1 thing that gets me and I still see it here, is ppl say who cares, it was 9/11, it was a long time ago.  Well, let's just take a look at the soldiers that are still fighting and being killed for this event that happened so long ago and so far from those weak minds, there over there doind what they are doing bases on the 9/11 events.  Not to mention, they're really missing the big picture of the major changes in the governments control of the nation, whiich is all based of those events. I mean GEEZ ppl wake-up and see how the nation is changing.  9/11 may have been 5 years ago, but the fallout from this event is just really beginning in the past few years.  Freedoms are being stripped and every day the government is working on new laws to even further the rights citizens have, all in the name of homeland security.  It was a hell of a good plan and it really seems to be working, hell they had me fooled for a long time.  You can look at the 3,000 + that were killed in that event, but compare that to the nation of ppl that are being crippled and freedoms being taken away, How far will this go?  Why are ppl so scared to see the truth and stand up for what we have and what's being taken away.  I don't hate bush or the government, I love our troops (god bless anyone that would lay there life down for me to have the ability to type this message, but I also know at the same time a new law was passed based on "homeland security" that my internet provider can give any information they have on me, including my IP data logs, to the government without my consent.  Guess what if you have internet chances are you already signed something that states you aware of this law, of course they don't tell you but it's in the fine print.  HAs anyone read the new Privacy Papers you have to sign when you go to the doctor.  This shit is effecting us in everyday life and ppl just don't see it, it wasn't just momney, it was control of the nation also and if ppl don't see that happening then there eyes are closed.

Damnit Dylan, I always go off on rants when I get around your profile

 

First of all, thank you for opening my eyes. Someone had to do it, glad you decided to be "that man". As far as these other people go, I look at it like this....Even the people who DO believe it, sometimes won't admit it. It's a scary reality. That our Government has acquired so much power that they're even capible of doing something this sick. Well to those peope I say "Suck it up, Get over it and let's start doing something to change it before it's too late". In the mean time, why don't you quit trying to insult us "theorists" and actually prove us wrong. If you don't have the evidence, you don't have shit.
 

Amen.
 

Yea, Americans killed Americans so we could invade Afghanistan, and Iraq.  That makes alot of sense.  And look at all the oil we have now. It's amazing that all of our elected officials are sociopaths bent on killing Americans so we could invade 3rd world countries for absolutely no reason. I just wanted to know if you 9/11 truth guys are in hiding or something? I mean you guys are totally exposing the evil imperial US government. If they could and would pull of something like 9/11, shouldn't they be after you?