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City: NEW YORK
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Tuesday, September 09, 2008 
While many of you may have read about this online already - I'd say that most of you also did not get the full scoop on the importance as to why the protest even happened. Unfortunately, the simple story/headline you might get is that Sturgeon acted like an idiot & got arrested for satirically lobbing donuts in the direction of police officers. Clearly a popular immediate criticism of this action is a sarcastic "Great , that's really productive" or at least something along those lines. And ...that criticism is accurate to that extent when held upon those actions but that's not the whole story. Sturgeon may of had the spotlight on him as he was the entertainment/ 'the clown' - but the issue here is constitutional rights. His role was to draw attention to it. And you're reading this now - so there you go.


This is not simply an issue about an arguably politically juvenile punk band & their lyrics or their sound decibel debate -- this stretches past all that now. While it may not be directly related - it also gets tied up to the ongoing pattern of targeted harassment by members of the NYPD where they have been blatantly targeting Sturgeon and his bands (most recently being Star Fucking Hipsters this past May) where they have actually, on numerous occasions, threatened to close venues permanently if they let his band perform in the following days(as in pre-event).  At a club in Greenpont - they promised that if the band was let to perform the next day - that they would find a code violation to shut down the venue. On top of that - during the incident last May - they flat out refused to give their badge numbers & took down the information of every kid that walked up to the venue. No matter what inane ramblings the man says - its punk to challenge authority (at least - the last time I checked) & its now an issue about the violations of free speech. Quoting an officer from the 9th precinct on the behavior of these Brooklyn Cops : " these people are no longer cops, they are criminals.
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Now back to the issue as to why the protest ocurred as it did :

On August 2nd & 3rd , the usual group of Lower East Side activists/organizers put on the annual anniversary rally/concert of the neighborhood-defining 1988 Tompkins Square Park Police Riots. This was the first time that the organizers were held to a strictly enforced sound level reading - limiting the concert to 70 DB at 100 ft. The concert the week before had no enforcement, nor the month before, nor the month before that, etc etc etc. During the event, an organizer had to call a well known Civil Rights Attorney to get the show from getting pulled. After the bands were done, the concert promoters were informed to expect a $1,500 summons in the mail for violating the decibel limit.


So maybe this was a coincidence & the rule just happened to start being put into effect during our 20th Anniversary Police Riot Anniversary gig - but since then - there has been zero enforcement on sound levels in the park for other events, including Street Life Ministries Christian Rock Concert, the Charlie Parker Jazz Festival, The Theatre for the New City play along with various other concerts, movies, etc. This pretty much displays a pattern of selective enforcement. By letting you gather, perform or rally - they are letting you keep your right to freedom of speech - but if they dont like what is being said - they can make that speech inaudible....and legally less audible than the traffic passing behind the event. Again, what is more important than a decibel debate for a targeted borderline juvenile punk band like Leftover Crack - this is a standard that can be forced upon ANY group protesting or rallying in the entire city of New York. To further this - they gave the permitted protest a decibel limit for amplified sound capping at 70 db at 50 ft (due to being in a residential zone).


The entire protest concert/ rally was really a big rouse to get the entire debate of sound levels into Federal Court (where the Judge stated that there is a strong merit to further a selective enforcement case). The reason this is all relevant is that there is NO law that restricts decibel limits to political rallies & any precident set would be historically significant. The police cling to article 10-108 , where it basically says they can come up with any number. But without standards & regulations .....there is no way to fairly monitor this as you have to read both ambient sound with the amplified sound. The crowd size, passing traffic, a plane flying overhead - these are all factors to take in.


The closest thing the NYPD 's legal team had to argue in court was a 45 db restriction of commercial music in bars from 15 ft outside the door or to street performers in time square. The threat of arguing to challenge the arbitrary numbers that they gave us was made more of a big deal with the promise of punk bands playing in residential streets instead of just the usual gang of local activists yelling at the wall. Instead of yelling at the wall, lets move the party, make our point and play some loud punk music to that wall. It's not going to fall but we do what we do to watch our watchmen and to keep them in place. In a neighborhood where 'punk' as a culture has been pushed out due to gentrification and rising rents (see: CBGB) - we need these places to to unify and for that culture to continue to thrive.


If they hold us strictly to these sound levels - they have to hold everyone accountable & piss everyone off - city wide. We ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WANT anyone else's party to get turned down but need to point out this incident to show that we cannot be pushed around. Just because we publicly called them out - they challenged the HOWL festival the very next day (where Star Fucking Hipsters were also scheduled to play) . This is surprising because not everyone is as easy to push around as the squatter/hippies/inane ramblers...other events, like these, have large corporate sponsorship back them. As there is no precise law, rule, or even a way to accurately measure outside political rallies, concerts, protests, or neighborhood block parties  ESPECIALLY ones against the misuse of authority.....it should be brought up that as a biased party, the NYPD had to sign off on these sound permits, creating this arbitrary number with other officials. If threatening to bring the party & the political debate - along with the promise of punk music - isn't seen as challenging a 'sloppy law' then i dont know what to say. The donut flinging - i can't back - and neither can Sturgeon really , but there is an issue of greater importance. No matter how dumb that particular part of it may of been - the issue is free speech and the power for the authorities to selectively quiet any rally or protest they want and still let other corporate-backed events or block parties get away with significantly louder sound.

The HOWL Fest was able to get by at 75 dB at 150 feet, which is where ours was let to go. Their crowd at the mainstage was almost as big as the Leftover Crack crowd.  Even though they let both of these events slide at this reading - they said they will continue to legally give events 70db at 100. These numbers are total bullshit & whats more important is that these levels are what they can now assign ANY protest, which is even more bullshit.


Decent coverage of this (why would you want to read any more at this point??) can be found at http://www.neithermorenorless.blogspot.com/

Sturgeon plans on issuing a formal statement aka his own blog at some point in the near future here.

that's it.

x.

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JIMMY THE SAINT

 
ha !!! a decibel limit in new york city?!!! living in new york and complaining about noise is like living in new orleans and complaining about hurricanes. also, in my opinion....performing out in the street singing songs about killing cops, hating cops ..etc.. will surely not make the police your biggest fans....a behavior which stza has been engaging in for years....no wonder they hate the guy..... standing in front of a police station yelling at cops will do abosolutely NOTHING. we live in a world now where money, lawyers and endless beurocricy is the rule of the day. punk is a fashion statement. i guess some people just take themselves too seriously. i am not saying that we should let punk die....just evolve. free speech no longer exists....the constitution is worthless. the military would end a revolution in no time. who let all this happen? WE DID. now we have to live with it. then there is always a bottle of scotch and a handgun.....it'll be over quick.
 
Posted by JIMMY THE SAINT on Monday, September 08, 2008 - 7:33 PM
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Heno
Suspect Device

 
stfu ya muppet, go create your own blog if you want to broadcast your form of submissive apathetic acceptance. last thing i need to read is your creed so keep it to yourself, down your pants with your marshall amp catalogue
 
Posted by Heno on Tuesday, September 09, 2008 - 8:35 AM
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ENDALL

 
oh my god heno, you are sooo right !!!you are so fuckin punk. cuz yer a hundred right? and your page mentions "i don't really give a fuck".....who's being apathetic? oh, i love my marshall amps. they make me happy. because i WORK for a living and earn my gear. within 2 sentences you completely contradicted the whole idea of the incident and my response. free speech? oh, but keep it to myself? you must be quite young...in order to take the time to insult me on something i wrote on a band's blog. now go start a revolution. hope you have enough ammo. ha!
 
Posted by ENDALL on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 - 8:54 PM
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Heno
Suspect Device

 
just bored mate, thats all, there was no need to be taken in by it

after all, its just the internet, you're not supposed to take it seriously or anything, still a muppet though hahahaha
 
Posted by Heno on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 11:02 AM
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ENDALL

 
i have been known to be called "animated" so no harm there.
love, jimjim
 
Posted by ENDALL on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 10:42 PM
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Heno
Suspect Device

 
hahahahaha, just hopes it doesn't require someone to stick their hand up your arse
 
Posted by Heno on Sunday, September 28, 2008 - 5:02 PM
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riko pandejo

 
hell ya, McCain 08' baby!
 
Posted by riko pandejo on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 - 5:33 PM
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JustinDRiot

 
yeah cops really get pissed off when you talk shit about them
 
Posted by JustinDRiot on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 - 6:09 PM
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Smelly
Randy Gravel

 
It seems like New York police always hate people who question them.
Ive lived in New York all my life, and most cops are ignorant racist homophobic zombies that dont give a damn about the people. All they are really after is a paycheck and a pat on the ass from the other pigs.
I just feel sort of trapped now that we can hardly fight the oppression anymore, seeing as they are holding the power to shut us up if they so choose, no matter how hard we fight. This sort of power abuse cant go on for much longer or it will just spiral out of control to a point that we'll all be stuck in a militaristic country with no way out..
 
Posted by Smelly on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 - 8:49 PM
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ENDALL

 
be careful bro, yer boy up there might get mad for having to read your "opinions"
 
Posted by ENDALL on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 - 9:03 PM
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Organized Kaos

 
the cops are just pissed that kids are willing listen to what stza has to say more than what they do
 
Posted by Organized Kaos on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 - 11:43 PM
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I Forget

 
Well just kill the motherfuckers. What else do they leave us to do?
 
Posted by I Forget on Friday, September 12, 2008 - 12:21 AM
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κενїи

 
Protecting the money and out serving the state
Crushing the people with the laws they created
Nothing forgotten and nobody saved
You can not break me, force me to behave
 
Posted by κενїи on Friday, September 12, 2008 - 5:56 AM
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Ken
Ken johnston

 
there so stupid.
i feel too old for this shit.

its been going on since tompkins.. cv days.

after cracktoberfest riots.. i swore it off.

im done with nyc shows.

fuck that.

i wont go. nor play there
 
Posted by Ken on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 9:49 PM
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Ken
Ken johnston

 
there so stupid.
i feel too old for this shit.

its been going on since tompkins.. cv days.

after cracktoberfest riots.. i swore it off.

im done with nyc shows.

fuck that.

i wont go. nor play there
 
Posted by Ken on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 9:49 PM
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Vida Sin Dios {(AE)on}
Sir William bradford Juan Pablo cuntington

 
ha. i'm a little late on catching this one obviously. good job with the way things turned out though lol. throwing donuts at the 5-0... i would've never thought of that. I enjoy reading the comments people make though.... such a typical, and shallow discussion topic... "i'm more p.c. than you"... I see it this way, and I borrow this from the wall at my local coffee shop, where the poster says something along the lines of "If we can all get along in here, we'd have every right to bitch about the assholes outside". "Jimmy The Saint" has it right. Punk is merely a fashion statement, and has been. Free speech doesn't exist, because the people's opinion mean precisely dick to anyone but themselves. We did in fact create a monster though, with the police state, military, government etc. any attempt to do anything other than sit and spin will be brought to a screeching halt. So... Possible options... ........claim sovereignty ...be self sufficient... Grow your own food, remove yourself and property from the power grid, dont pay taxes, dont support big business and fast foods... learn from your parents and teach your children... it is a free planet, but unless you walk out from under the pyramid, you are funding the enslavement of the opressed............ .............. Money, is merely 'pictures of money',,, Take it out of the bank, and exchange it for something of value, it isnt worth the paper its printed on 

Waste no time, void all criminal contracts now with this 'alleged' government establishment, society, 'Psychocracy',,, They are NOT who they claim to be! They are foreign couterfeiters, imposters, criminal mafia, and have infiltrated this land and occupied it for hundreds of years.




Void all fictitious contracts, birth records, licenses, permits, social security, titles, registrations, names, addresses, etc,,, oclaim sovereignty according to DeJure Law, and cancel all De Facto agreements. 

..........
 
Posted by Vida Sin Dios {(AE)on} on Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 4:23 AM
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