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Sexe : Male
Statut : Libertin(e)
Age : 23
Zodiaque: Balance

Ville : Located in Britain and Ireland
Région : Midlands
Pays: UK
Date d’inscription :: 20/07/2005
dimanche, octobre 29, 2006 

Humeur actuelle :  joyeux
(Note: after some debate this quick update was posted only on the understanding that its made very clear the AF have no time for the '911 Truth Movement' and do not wish to engage with them whatsoever. This is not about them. Anarchists recognise that governments kill thousands of citizens every year in cold blood - its an ineveitable part of government. We do not need a conspiracy theory to see what is in front of our noses)

Anarchists massing for the joint block on the September 23rd march were happy to display their libertarian credentials by tolerating a few dodgy poems from a Green Party supporter over a portable soundsystem in Albert Square - but none too happy when ex-MI5 agent David Shayler took to the mic.

Shaylor was a spy from 1991 until 1996, his department directly responsible for monitoring and harassing progressives and revolutionaries considered a threat to government - the very people standing in front of him that Saturday. Despite his "whistleblowing" storm in a tea cup in 1998, which amounted to 7 weeks in an open prison, Shayler has never given the press or the left anything of any substance - and he was certainly party to juicy information. His jailing in 2002 was purely on principle for breaking the Official Secrets Act. If Shayler genuinely does not know anything else of any value, he is as irrelevant a spokesman as the next failed journalist. Currently he makes a living out of conning people into believing he does have a trick up his sleeve: after exhausting the media's interest with him, he has now zeroed in on the "911 truth movement", people who believe the 11th of September attacks were carried out either by, or with the help of the US government - Shayler personally argues it was an "inside job".

It was this topic which Shayler chose to address. Unfortunately for those around him in the "911 truth movement", he does not believe a word of it. At the end of his speech, an AF comrade took the mic to explain:

"Whether nine eleven was an inside job is possibly up for discussion; what is not in question is whether this idiot genuinely believes that. Directly after the attacks, he went on record to say that it was a security failure, but not an inside job. A few years on and he has a book out and craves attention so he changes his tune. Don't listen to this wannabe martyr."

"Well, I should have said martyr," the speaker admitted later, "but I get nervous speaking in public, and when I'm nervous I swear. I just called him a f*cking idiot, which got me booted off the mic."

However at this point Shayler grew animated and followed the speaker into the crowd. Shouting "What have you done? I've been to prison for my beliefs!" he pushed into them repeatedly and goaded his denouncer to attack him, probably hoping for their arrest. A bit of solidarity from the crowd sent him packing however.

A rather surreal footnote to an otherwise straightforward day. It is bizarre that Shayler thinks of anarchists and socialists as a potential audience, and even more bizarre that he is surprised they react badly to his presence. He has come to the (unwilling) attention of the movement since his attempt to talk at the 2005 anarchist bookfair. Since then anarchists have been interested in the work of independent researcher Larry O'Hara. Along with the evidence of his blatant opportunism around 911, the idea that he remains an MI5 agent spying on the anti-war movement is interesting. O'Hara looks at Shayler in NFB #6 http://www.borderland.co.uk/

MI5 agents are lower than any scum in the state hierarchy, they alone are completely aware of exactly how the ruling class lie and kill to stay in power - they carry it all out. Given that Shayler still supports, and possibly is in MI5, before addressing revolutionaries he should remember that revolutions end with the secret police hanging from the trees.


 1-http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2002/03/24228.html


 

On Internet psy-op sites and the infiltration of anti-Capitalist organisations by the Intelligence agencies.

Lucifer
http://www.luciferia.tv >
For Anarchist Communism.
Against all Religions. Against all governments.

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A number of facts.

Just to cite one example, Andy Bryant of the London based Anarchist 'Class War' was an MI6 agent; 'Class War investigated and eventually admitted this to be true (see http://www.bluegreenearth.us/archive/article/2005/booth-1-2005.html">http://www.bluegreenearth.us/archive/article/2005/booth-1-2005.html


To cite another example, a British television documentary a few years back proved beyond all reasonable doubt that the Socialist Worker's Party (SWP), Britain's largest Marxist political party was run for many years by an individual who was on the payroll of MI6. According to David Shayler there are still SWP activists who are on the payroll of MI6 and further Shayler alleges that there are numerous journalists in the mass media who are on the MI5 payroll.


According to MI6 officer Richard Tomlinson, the military intelligence services [i]devotes considerable resources to lobbying its position in Whitehall, and has a specialised department whose role is to spin-doctor the media by wining and dining favoured journalists and editors[/i].
(see http://www.variant.randomstate.org/7texts/Robin_Ramsay.html">http://www.variant.randomstate.org/7texts/Robin_Ramsay.html)

 

The view that Anglo-American state terrorist intelligence services have numerous paid employees within the mass media is so well testified to that I think it needs to be considered to be a fact.

 

There are many suspicious anti-Capitalist sites which are generally 'anti' the 911 truth movement (such as http://www.911cultwatch.org.uk">http://www.911cultwatch.org.ukhttp://paulstott.typepad.com/911cultwatch/">http://paulstott.typepad.com/911cultwatch/,http://www.borderland.co.uk/"> http://www.borderland.co.uk/> and even the UK Anarchist Federation (see

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=22315714&blogID=186135645&MyToken=eddd892b-c305-4753-8a0d-e5219b894e78">http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=22315714&blogID=186135645&MyToken=eddd892b-c305-4753-8a0d-e5219b894e78

I am totally convinced by the argument and evidence that the view that New York 911, London 7/7, and even many of the so called British IRA bombings (google 'operation Gladio’) were black ops by the military, however there are elements within the Anarchist movement who consider this to be a conspiracy theory and spend a great deal of energy slagging off anyone who challenges the 'official' position as a conspiracy theorist.

 

The favourite targets of abuse among 911 activists admittedly appear to be individuals such as Alex Jones (a libertarian Christian), David Shayler (whose remarks on Israeli state terrorism have been falsely translated as 'anti-Semitism) and David Icke (who believes that the world is run by reptiles); however whether these people are Anarchists or not is irrelevant to the argument and evidence concerning the history of state terrorist black operations against their own people.

Why those of the Anarchist Left would be highly critical of the evidence presented by 911 7/7 researchers is quite beyond me.

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Based on my own sources in London as to how the intelligence services recruit, their strategy is to find people who are already in positions of influence and to put them on their payroll. Such individuals are not career military officers but simply the 'bribed.'

Are there Internet Sites run by Anglo-American psy-ops? Of course there are. Billions are spent on propaganda and misinformation.

I think that any Internet Site or publication where there is 'editorial control (i.e., a tyrant)' is suspect. Sites such as Indymedia on the other hand, where journalists are unpaid and independent offers a more 'Anarchist' model, but to be frank any large organisation can be infiltrated (bribed

 

 

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Lucifer

http://www.luciferia.tv

 

An open letter to the media

cc: 911 activist sites.

 

A personal reference for Larry O'Hara and Paul Stott of http://www.911cultwatch.org.uk/

 

The site operators of the above a '911 was not a black op' psyop site clearly have set up this 'pseudo-Left' site to gain media attention for the cause of their state terrorist masters.

 

They claim to be ‘experts’ who can debate the issues and plead on their site to be given the opportunity in the media to 'counter' any '911 experts' who allege that 911 and London 7/7 were black operations by the Anglo American state terrorist police / military. 

 

As can be seen from their form of 'debating the issue' on for example http://paulstott.typepad.com/911cultwatch/2006/11/anarchist_feder.html#comment-25898971

they are clearly intellectual morons incapable of debate and quickly report to abuse, contradiction, straw man arguments, changing the subject and other methods of sophistry to avoid defending any of the claims made on their psy-op site.

 

I thus have no hesitation in recommending these defenders of state terrorism as being typical of the mentality of your police state masters and I fully encourage you to give these morons an opportunity to debate with those who have examined the evidence and argument that Sept 11th and London 7/7 were black operations by your state terrorist masters.

 

Kind regards

 

Lucifer

http://www.luciferia.tv
Great and terrible and dreadful shall be the Aeon of Judgement.

 

 

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On the Military Strategy of the State Terrorists. Sept 11th and other ‘false flag’ military operations: .Alex Jones’ latest video ‘Terrorstorm’ military black military operations on:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5948263607579389947&q=alex+jones&hl=en">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5948263607579389947&q=alex+jones&hl=en

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5948263607579389947&q=alex+jones&hl=en">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5948263607579389947&q=alex+jones&hl=en

(Sept 11th video: a black op by the US military: broadband)

 

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An extensive list of  psyop Internet sites defending Anglo_American state terrorist black operations on:
 

http://www.911cultwatch.org.uk/911cult_011.htm">http://www.911cultwatch.org.uk/911cult_011.htm

 

Psy-op: a practical definition:

 

(a) disinfo operation designed to attract young political dissidents, draw them into the community, document their beliefs, and moderate their opinions

Those without an education in the matter may wonder aloud how a website that provides “dissident” material could possibly be an agent of the state that it allegedly opposes;


…..in George Orwell’s magnus opus 1984, there are two notable parties seemingly at war with each other: the tyrannical state, which controls all of the mainstream media in a very obvious, overbearing way, and the “Brotherhood,” a band of anti-government rebels who subvert the state through open resistance and an underground literature trade. By the end of the book, it’s revealed that both the state and the Brotherhood are controlled by the same interests,

 By creating an anti-government resistance movement, the government of 1984 – the original “Big Brother” – ensures its own complete control of its populace, for even those opposing it are simultaneously fighting for it, albeit unknowingly. Such is the case propaganda, .... it works because we are unaware that we are even exposed to it.

....Taking into account things like Operation Mockingbird – which turned over 400 domestic American journalists into CIA assets by the late 1960’s –

.... Thus are born the popular leftist “gate-keepers” of conspiracy lore; intelligence-connected institutions like the aforementioned Ford Foundation funnel money to moderate-left media establishments .... in the interests of drowning out radical or revolutionary thought and legitimizing moderate beliefs and opinions. The term “gate-keepers” refers to the power that moderate leftists ....can thus receive, as they are able to essentially decide what is or is not appropriate for discussion among contemporary leftists, and will thus essentially set the agenda for many in their audience.

 

 

Lucifer

For Anarchist Communism

http://www.luciferia.tv >

 
Publié par le samedi, décembre 09, 2006 - 4:31
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Sean

 

Lucifer:

Quite frankly, the fact that you are mystified by the idea of anarchist communists employing their critical faculties speaks volumes about the level on which your politics operate.

Your use of language is emotional and accusatory (everybody who argues with the conspiracy theorists is trying to "promote the official story"), the fact that there are many holes in the "official story" simply proves that:

1) There is no singular "official story", rather there is a myriad of media reports, intelligence reports and statements from various government agents.

2) Governments fuck up all too often, leaving the rest of us vulnerable, and when they do that, they engage in all kinds of arse covering and petty back biting among themselves.

The notion that capital benefits from a massive explosion in central London, which paralysed the city for hours, disrupting the valorisation of capital for that day is ludicrous.  Almost as ludicrous as your allegations of shadowy "psyops" organisatiosn running O'Hara's 9/11 cultwatch site, in fact.

There is absolutely no positive evidence for the sort of far reaching conspiracy that you are talking about.


 
Publié par Sean le mercredi, décembre 13, 2006 - 1:01
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Greg S.S.H

 
I fucking hate Shayler, he was invited by one particularly cretinous hippie twat  into the residents area of The Square social centre ( www.londonsocialcentre.org.uk - now evicted but the sites still up with the dissolution text)  'for tea' a number of times and was promptly kicked out the same number of times. He maintained that he had something to offer to us, but he has has he fuck. This is a man who spent a substantial portion of his life shitting all over the anarchist and communist movement and individuals and why exactly he thinks we will welcome him with open arms I'm not exactly too sure. Why did he take him so long to realise that there just might be something wrong with the MI5, as if you can be part of that organisation for longer than a week without knowing exactly what role you're playing. Shayler doesn't even call for the destruction of the secret service but for its 'reform'. Dick head.
 
Publié par Greg S.S.H le jeudi, décembre 28, 2006 - 9:38
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Anarchist Federation
Anarchist Federation

 
Nice one gregasaurus, very well said.
 
Publié par Anarchist Federation le mercredi, janvier 03, 2007 - 4:00
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