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Wednesday, February 14, 2007 

Current mood:  energetic
Category: Movies, TV, Celebrities
So here's how it all went down…
I had a set at the comedy store Saturday night, and after I closed, I was bringing on the next comedian, a guy named Kirk Fox that works for Carlos Mencia.
I introduce him saying that he's a funny guy, and that he opens on the road for Carlos "Menstealia." That's the name we call him at the comedy store, and of course Carlos doesn't like it one bit.
Carlos was apparently in the room when I said this, and the perfect combination of ego and timing made him decide that this was the night to put his foot down.
As I got off stage and headed towards the back of the room, he grabbed the mike away from Kirk, and said that I was too much of a pussy to say that shit to his face.
Which to me is something akin to the hottest girl in the world daring you to fuck her while you're standing there in her bedroom naked with a boner.
Of course I had to disagree with him, and I decided to get onstage with him and have this "meeting of the minds" as it were.
On video.
Shazam!



Now, a lot of comics have had a problem with Carlos stealing material for a long time now, but for whatever reason, many of them don't like to talk about it publicly, mostly because they're afraid that people are going to think that they're just jealous. That, and they're worried about him using his power in "Hollywood" to have them black balled for talking badly about him. But in private, they talk about it. A LOT.
It's a huge problem at the comedy store, to the point where some really good comics are refusing to go onstage if he's there watching the show, and others have a signal system to alert the guy onstage that Carlos has walked into the room.
It's really THAT BAD.
It's like a dark cloud that hovers over the place when he's performing there. He walks by and people literally stop their conversations and move away.
For whatever reason, the owner of the comedy store, Mitzi Shore, has always let him go up there, perhaps because he started there and the fact that she was actually the one to name himself Carlos Mencia instead of his actual name of Ned. Or, maybe she just wasn't aware of how big of a problem it had become. Either way, it's her club, and she's done so much for comedy in general, and me in particular, that I would never question her about any of her decisions. In fact, I had never even talked to her about the problem until today.
Quite honestly, I'm happy to get this video and this blog out there, so that hopefully this can be the last time that I have talk about it.
Even I'm getting sick of me talking about it at this point.


To give you a little background, when I first moved to Hollywood way back in 1994 Carlos and I were actually friends.
We hung out together a bunch of times. Played pool together, went to the gym, hung out at the store, all kinds of shit. That's also how I know that he's really half German and Half Honduran and not Mexican. I know it, because he told me himself.
I thought that it was weird to use a fake name, but who gives a shit really. No big deal.
Other than that he seemed to be a cool guy.
Then I started to see it. Over and over again, I would see him do jokes that I knew I had heard before. Then I saw some real obvious shit. Some jokes that I knew were Paul Mooney's, some that were right off a Richard Pryor album. I brought it up to him, and he gave me this half assed denial that I knew was a lie. That was the end of our friendship.
I didn't hate the guy, but there was no way I could hang around with him knowing he's a thief.
For someone who is not a comic, and doesn't understand what the big deal is about comics stealing jokes, please let me try to explain it to you.
It's hard to come up with material. It takes a lot of work, a lot of rewriting, sometimes an approach bombs and you have to rethink it, and often it's a long process until you get to a finished product.
Now, occasionally a joke will come to you in full form, but for the most part it's just an idea that can become a great bit with some work.
Now, when you work hard on a bit and polish and craft it, and then someone just disrespects the whole process, steps in, steals it and performs it as his own, that's a pretty intense creative violation.
I've been in the back of a club while a guy was onstage doing one of my bits and believe me that's a shitty fucking feeling. It's like watching your girlfriend getting fucked onstage by a liar while the whole audience cheers.
What's even worse, is if you're a struggling comic, and the guy stealing your shit has his own show on comedy central.


Now, our little "beef" started out a while ago when Carlos was on the radio in Tucson, Arizona doing "the Frank show", and he started talking about me, mainly telling a bunch of weird lies about a recent night where we had worked together back to back at the store. Unfortunately for him, the DJ sent me an mp3 of the discussion, and we actually had the evening he was referring to in his story on film, and we posted it up on the internet for all to see and laugh at. His version of the night was nothing more than a weird mix of lies and bragging, and it was pretty obvious to anyone seeing the video and listening to him on the radio that the guy is screwy.
You can check it out here.
Ever since then, shit talking has been going on back and forth from both sides, and to be honest I have been baiting him into a conversation to expose him and end this all for a while now, I just never thought he would actually be dumb enough to want to do it in front of an audience, especially when he knew that we were filming it.

Ego is a motherfucker, I guess.

Either way, I'm glad we got this over with.
For the record, I don't hate the guy. I never really did.
I hated what he was doing, but him as a person it's really more like I felt pity for him.
The dude was living a gigantic lie, and no matter how fucked up and powerful your ego is, there's got to be a part of the back of his brain that realizes what's going on, and cringes at the reality. I think maybe it's even his own subconscious knowing that he's doing something wrong that forced him into this un-winnable battle.
I'm completely convinced that if I ever got that dude high he would curl up into the fetal position and cry for hours.
Either that, or launch himself off a cliff.

When all was said and done at the end of the night, especially after I saw the video, I actually felt sorry for him. I think there's part of him that actually believes his own bullshit. I compared him to OJ in the video, in that they've both convinced themselves that they're innocent, and really I think it's a valid comparison.
Stand up comedy is an awesome, amazing way to make a living, and the comedy store is the greatest place to practice it in the known universe. It's just a really fun place, and there's a ton of funny comics that hang around there, and for the most part it's a really positive environment.
We support each other, and we make each other laugh. We have fun together, except for this one little problem. Hopefully this video will help fix that, and make everything nice-nice again.

Enjoy :)

Joe Rogan VS Carlos Mencia onstage

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Update: The Carlos™ had his lawyers contact myspace to take the video down. But it's still up on my homepage from ifilm and here: Working google video link
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VEGAS 702

 

Fuck yes this is fantastic! Love you in the Radar Magazine Piece about joke stealing.


 
Posted by VEGAS 702 on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 3:32 AM
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Display Name

 
I totally agree with you vegas, someone needed to tell Ned he is a piece of shit hack.  Thank you, Joe Rogan.  I will be featuring this video on my website, DamnCrackers.com
 
Posted by Display Name on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 10:52 PM
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My Coal

 
Some of the segments on his show were blatantly stolen from the Chelsea Handler show. "Pop culture oldies" is an example, he just made it more old people, same questions. He really made me sick before and I'm glad someone has finally called him out.
 
Posted by My Coal on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 7:55 AM
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That's why I stopped doing stand-up. It was just a matter of time before I hurt someone.
 
Posted by on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 3:32 AM
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Beast

 
dude...I didnt even bother reading this cause I saw a video back in the day of you fuckin with that retard...oh wait...dee-de-dee...or what the fuck ever...carlos mencia is a stupid piece of shit that hasnt had new material since the shit he sucked out of his madra's placenta....whats honduran for placents?  is it doushbag?  (Im listening to the video...lmao, I should go back and watch...either way...fuck carlos mencia.  Fuck him with a big black rubber dildo thats been dunked in the deepest gaping mexican(oh, wait, honduran) vagina in the world...oh wait, that would be his mom's and he's already been there...ah fuck carlos...fuck the ark, hail the loudest voice in comedy...Joe Fuckin Rogan....JFR...thats your new name!
 
Posted by Beast on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 3:33 AM
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Ky

 
you should challenge him to a bjj roll or whatever its called, fuck it fight him in the ufc get dana to allow it and ud fuck him up!
 
Posted by Ky on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 3:33 AM
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quint

 
finally that bitch takes it.
 
Posted by quint on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 3:33 AM
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i believe in Dapper D

 
rogan by armbar
 
Posted by i believe in Dapper D on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 3:43 AM
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Thomas Cunningham
Thomas Cunningham

 
Oh also, I love him saying "Everyone knows!" his name is Ned. Well, that's true... NOW! Mostly thanks to Joe Rogan everyone knows that. HA!
 
Posted by Thomas Cunningham on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 3:43 AM
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brian

 

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!...Fuckin WOW!! Your the fuckin Man bro!!

I wish he would of pushed you or just laid one hand on you that would have been the story of the year. ( Joe Rogan beats the shit out Ned (aka) Carlos Mencia.


 
Posted by brian on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 3:44 AM
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Nicki

 
Go Joe!
 
Posted by Nicki on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 3:44 AM
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PMS

 
VERY FUNNY JOE--ESPECAILLY WITH THE MUSIC TRACK & QUITE EYE-OPENING--...I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT THAT GUY !!!
 
Posted by PMS on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 3:45 AM
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Thomas Cunningham
Thomas Cunningham

 
that was awesome... Did I hear him kinda sorta admit it at the very end when he said  something like "Do you know how hard it is to write original material?" that sounds like he either admits he knowingly steals or at the very least, unknowingly steals and then doesn't bother to stop doing the material when he finds out another comic has being doing it for a while.

I think it's pretty definitive when all those comics said he steals and even his friend said it.

 
Posted by Thomas Cunningham on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 3:50 AM
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Jeremiah

 
that is golden. Mencia's show is so weak and lowest common denominator....this made my day.
 
Posted by Jeremiah on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 3:51 AM
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Drew
Drew Nunez

 

Joe,

That was fucking awesome. Thank you for exposing this "comedian." I have been telling my friends for months this loser was a fake and nobody believed me. Now, I forwarded this blog to all of them. Thanks again, Brother.

*Saw your DVD and it was awesome. Loved the Noah bit.

*Catch you at UFC 68!!! 


 
Posted by Drew on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 3:55 AM
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Ronnie P
Ron P

 

Everyone likes to see a "Hack" called to the carpet.

Nice...very nice!!

 

XOXO


 
Posted by Ronnie P on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 3:55 AM
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Lisa
Lisa Horvath-Tefft

 

Rogan :  "do you not know you steal shit?"

Ned: "do you know how hard it is to write shit?"

 

sounds like a theif to me!

 

Joe, you rule xo


 
Posted by Lisa on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 3:55 AM
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Seany T [DEUCE] Still Stat'd!

 
FINALLY! Kudos for sure.
 
Posted by Seany T [DEUCE] Still Stat'd! on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 3:56 AM
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Yves

 

that was AMAZING!!!

maybe Ned should go check out a Dane Cook show...what would they call that? is it actually stealing if it's already been stolen??

Does a bear shit in the woods?!


 
Posted by Yves on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 3:57 AM
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KING ARTHUR™

 

my fucking Joe....bwwwwaaaahhahahaha I think I've worked with the rest of the gang that likes to rip others off joke per joke....I've watched a "host" who claims to own a club that's not in his name, nor is the liquor license, nor is the club name even owned buy him...oh oh wait but he'll get stage and claim those are all his...this guy once did another guy's set in front of another guy.....bwaahahaha....then seemed a little upset that the guy got up on stage and winged a whole set and still blew him away.....oh he also had the nerve to punch Screech....YES that Save by The Bell self produced porno motherfucker...he punched him in the face for doing one of his jokes, but I couldn't count all the times I watched him rip people off after all their hard work...it's sad actually...maybe if he could keep his face off of a straw long enough to write his own shit he wouldn't be a bad guy...oh wait he has to be funny first right?...what's really funny is that I have years of videos of people I've worked with and the next week him doing their shit after working with them....

My being a musician/entertainer by trade and doing production and DJ work and working side by side with some of the greatest names in the business, it saddens me when i see this shit, and I have, like you, seen it....but like always I have heard the same shit about being black balled and all that kinda stuff...I have nothing but respect for those who actually give credit where it's due and are willing to write, and re-write and put in the blood sweat and tears....

I get a kick out of the comics I have worked with who are openers or even some headliners who have told me old Sam Kinison or Robin Williams shit and maybe move a word here or there and think that I wont know the stuff....

that brings me back to something you said...

"You do very well with other people's shit"

maybe people will learn how to create their own shit again...ya think?

 

just so you know....now, as always I will be more than happy to work with you....

 


 
Posted by KING ARTHUR™ on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 4:12 AM
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skrätte
Skrätte Tastic

 
Joe.. this video is ace.

I've been following this since you first posted it on your website. I even turned around and began telling friends and others about Ned. Sad thing is, there are so many people that just delight in being ignorant. All they care about is that it's funny.. no matter who tells the joke. No matter who steals the joke.

I definitely think this perception would change if more comics like You and George Lopez actually had the balls to come out and put Ned in his place. It just burns a bit that there are people out there like Ned who are making their living off of other people's hard work.

You know.. I even got a little crap for bashing Denis Leary about yanking old Bill Hicks material. It's sickening. More comics need to speak out about this stuff.

It would be funny if we could really see what's inside the Mind of Mencia. It would, no doubt, be a laundry list of comedy bits stolen from other comedians, except that he throws in the words "beaner" and "wetback" because he's allowed.. being a "Mexican" and all.

Good luck and keep up the good fight.

 
Posted by skrätte on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 4:17 AM
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Andy

 
Sweetness. I got on to send you a message about this awesome special on bonobos I just watched on NOVA, and you have this little treat waiting. My perceptions of Ned...probably 4 or 5 years ago, while I was in college, I mainly smoked pot and watched comedy central, seeing every fucking standup on there ever. Ned was on "premium blend" and did pretty well, and as the pattern seems to go, if you do well on "premium blend", you end up getting a "comedy central presents." His "ccp" was really good. His racial shit was far more subtle than now and he ends it all with a heart to heart about political correctness and our differences. fast forward a couple years when chappelle split, he gets a show. It seemed so transparent that comedy central was desperate to plug someone in, and he is obviously no substitute for chappelle. I watched the first couple episodes and they were fucking terrible. The same shit with less tact at a louder volume. It's almost like that show exposed him for not being able to come up with ideas that were BOTH original AND funny. Then I started hearing all the shit about him stealing and it made perfect sense.

Those bonobos are crazy though. They just run up to each other and fuck for like 10 seconds all day long. All sorts of positions, hanging from branches. I swear I saw an ass get slapped.
 
Posted by Andy on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 4:17 AM
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Behrang

 
You know I'm glad you called him out.  I actually noticed that some of the shit he does on his show and standup sounded familiar.
I'm surprised there aren't some copyright laws in place to protect comedian from this type of theft.  Movies have them, music has them, tv, and of course publications.
I love the last part, which looks like camera phone footage, where basically every comedian in the room agreed that he was a plagiarist.


 
Posted by Behrang on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 4:17 AM
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David Bowie Tribute

 
That was amazing!
 
Posted by David Bowie Tribute on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 4:17 AM
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★SANTIAGO★

 
Im amazed that he continued to defend himself!!You definately made him wish he never opened his theiven, fake ass mouth!! Good Job:-)people should start a petition to get him off HBO so someone else who deserves it; get the spot!!
 
Posted by ★SANTIAGO★ on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 4:18 AM
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♥Candycoated♥
Shenessa E

 
This is amazing in EVERY way.
 
Posted by ♥Candycoated♥ on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 4:18 AM
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KING ARTHUR™

 

I don't know her Joe...but I'm in love...

 

ok sorry.....uumm...carry on...


 
Posted by KING ARTHUR™ on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 10:09 PM
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Sarah

 
I hate that dude's show.


 
Posted by Sarah on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 4:18 AM
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Andrew

 
Way to go, Joe! +1000000 points for using the Mario tune at the end.
 
Posted by Andrew on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 4:19 AM
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Go, get him, Joe Ro....XOXOXOX
 

Posted by on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 7:01 AM
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C to the..

 

Classic video, Joe.  I knew I had heard the "mexican fence" joke prior to Nedlos Jokesteal-a breaking it out.  Nobody believes me when I call Nedlos a worthless, stealing piece of crap, and now you've given me the smoking gun.

Keep working it out.  You're finding your niche and I'm glad to have seen you develop into a great comic.  

See you next time you come to Tempe, and keep tearin up the UFC gig.

Later,

-C 


 
Posted by C to the.. on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 7:02 AM
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Stitch Jones
Allawishes Jones

 

Joe,

Holy shit! I swear to god I love you! You know, in that non gay hetro kind of way! You hit it on the head when you said " NED " was a good performer, but a fucking hack comic! I only wish that could have happened on O & A for more to hear! It makes me proud that there are still people out there who no matter how it might suck, still tell the fucking truth!

You rock!


 
Posted by Stitch Jones on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 7:03 AM
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Curt

 
Dude, you are my fucking hero.  I've never liked that tool and I downright hated him creatively ever since I heard he was a thief. 

Thank you for this.  It made my night to see someone put Ned in his place.

 
Posted by Curt on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 7:08 AM
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phil

 
FUCK YEAH JOE... PUT THAT FUCKING CON ARTIST BACK IN THE TOMATO PATCHES!
 
Posted by phil on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 7:10 AM
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Awesome shit! Too many people sing it but dont bring it. Fuck Hollywood politics...

Just like in my buisness, the stealing cum stains like Mencia always rise to the top so the brainwahed masses can easily digest their shit tv. 


 
Posted by on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 7:10 AM
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randi

 

We were there on 2/10 and that was some crazy shit going down that night. Carlos just fess up who you really are. Joe you rocked as usual.  We stand behind Joe Rogan


 
Posted by randi on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 7:12 AM
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Jim
Jim Long

 

Jesus Fucking Christ, that was goddamned brilliant.

Nothing else really insightful here, the Percoset is taking away brain function.


 
Posted by Jim on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 7:12 AM
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яéàñïмàτēd.

 

The GREATEST video I've ever seen. Seriously.

I never knew any of this about 'Carlos Mencia'.
Which is a shame, cuz there's probably thousands and thousands of people just like I was who hasn't seen this fraud being exposed yet.
So, here's to hoping this video spreads like herpes!

KEEP HUMBLING THE EGOMANIACAL PLAGIARISTS, JOE!

 


 
Posted by яéàñïмàτēd. on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 7:17 AM
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"Voices In Your Head" TV

 
This is disconcerting.  I like CM.
 
Posted by "Voices In Your Head" TV on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 7:24 AM
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Mike
Mike Wendt

 
fucking hilarious...  well done joe
 
Posted by Mike on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 7:25 AM
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Dave

 

I love it when people tell the truth, I thought I was just having deja-vu everytime I saw his act.


 
Posted by Dave on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 7:26 AM
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Dan

 
rogan, you're incredible.  the guy couldn't defend himself and fact that it was in front of a crowd makes it that much better.  love it!
 
Posted by Dan on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 7:33 AM
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R. Michael Gull™

 
Rogan, you are a fucking GOD.

Beautiful shit.  You should have made him eat bull penis.


Gull

 
Posted by R. Michael Gull™ on Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 2:21 AM
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Teresa
Teresa Lee

 

Ya done good sweets!  I had no idea about what goes on behind a comic's mind, thank you for expressing it clearly and bringing it to everyone's attention.  What a disappointment that he doesn't have the balls to just come out and apologize, only then would he possibly get the respect he so desires.

Have a Happy Valentine's!

Teresa


 
Posted by Teresa on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 7:36 AM
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Jay LaFarr

 
Awesome.
 
Posted by Jay LaFarr on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 5:59 AM
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Lady Di

 
wow, i had no idea. that is beyond low. i'm a huge comedy fan and have the utmost respect for good comedians b/c i know how hard it is. t hanks for the info bro. i'm about to delete him ....rock on joe! you're great
 
Posted by Lady Di on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 10:17 PM
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cha cha charity™
Charity Haselip

 

Why not use his own stupidity over stealing jokes against him. 

Use him in your act.

Mad kudos for sticking up for all the other comedians that have suffered at his disposal.


 
Posted by cha cha charity™ on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 10:19 PM
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will axtman

 
reminds me of the time you ate a cockroach on fear factor and just said in a matter of fact voice "this is why im the host of fear factor" cause this joe, is why your the fuckin man. keep us posted if anything new comes of all this shit! would love to hear it! GO JOE!
 
Posted by W.W.J.D. ..... for a klondike bar! on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 10:39 PM
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Donika

 
Beautifully executed.  Thanks for fighting the good fight.
 
Posted by Donika on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 10:42 PM
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The Ever Lovin' Uncle Ho
Jose Colon

 

Hey Joe, this was so good I had to play in like 5 time to really savor it all in, everytime you nailed him it was a Mike Tyson Back In The Day Body Blow, you had him sucking wind. You know it is great when some one who gets rich by screwing other people get his with no vaseline and no kiss kiss. The way you kept on him reminded me of a old term I have heard before..BOHICA!

Bend

Over

Here

It

Comes

Again!

 

Again Joe, thanks

Uncle Ho


 
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