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Status: Single
City: Stockholm
Country: SE
Signup Date: 9/13/2005
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 
it has come to my attention that groove la chord on "the art of
vengeance ep"...my first big, and maybe the most important release in
my career has been copied by israeli artist shlomi aber.

after receiving an email from a listener who had noticed a certain
similarity to my track and his track "efrat", i went to check this
guy out on beatport and was surprised of the similarity, allthough
the quality on beatport leaves a lot to wish for.

after checking his myspace page out, and finding out he is a "friend"
of mine and then listening to the track, i cant come to another
conclusion that my original track, not only was being an inspiration
to his track, but also most likely sampled.

on the b-side of "art of vengeance ep" it was a version called "groove
la chord-shuffle mix". on this version the chords are placed not on
the "one" as the original, but offbeat...just like shlomi aber's
version of it. and unlike the original version, my other mix have the
chords just on their on in the end. which means no beats or anything,
unfortunatly all there and easy to sample.

apparently, as so nicely written in his bio...not only has dance music
chosen israel for its vacation. it has apparently also lost its
integrity there. granted i have alot to thank the early detroit sound
for my source of inspiration and 80's music...but i have during my
career never sampled anyone.

during the 10 years groove la chord has been out it has been,
according to colleagues and fans, an inspiration to many tracks and
nothing makes me more proud than that a track i made 1997 in my
bedroom, made such an impact on people and paved the way for where i
am now.

apart from this i have bumped into, lets call them "tributes" to the
original and also bootlegs. i wanted to get the ones that bootlegged
it and released it on vinyl but at least they stole my original track
and bootlegged it...not taking credit for it.

i find this incident a bit over the top where as not only have the
characteristics of my track , with the same chord, in the same key,
played the same way and with filter sweeps....and most likey actually
sampled, is being released as an original track of a person like
shlomi aber. its in my opinion the lowest way of pursuing their own careers.

i hope with this statement only that people that are buying and
supporting his music are aware of this since im not out to get any
money out of this. i just want people, especially the new generation
of listeners to know the truth.

as thom yorke once said..."i might be wrooooong"...but you decide for yourself ;)

regards,

aril brikha / art of vengeange music
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zagrebground :::music:::

 
you're not wroooong! :)
go to court, it's a crime..
did you write to him?
 
Posted by zagrebground :::music::: on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 10:02 AM
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Aural Assassin

 
It's actually not a crime. It's completely legal and is done all the time. Sampling is legal, legitimate and equally as important as producing itself.
It's an art if done correctly(including clearing samples which wasn't done here)

Aril is one of my favorite producers. It's a shame that the other producer didn't clear the sample, or perhaps even ask first. In any event, no LAWS have been broken. Statutes may have, and clearly there is a case to be made for Aril to receive royalties. However, if he'd have come and asked to sample the tune, even if Aril would have said NO-the producer could have legally done so anyway.


Aril is entitled to 20% of all sales in an American court, though I don't know about worldwide. Personally, I would be flattered people were sampling my music. I would be angry they did it without my permission. And tunes come out all the time as Original tunes with samples in them. That isn't even the issue here.


If the tune contains a single element, it would be fine. It sounds to me like the track is essentially the same though--and for that, the guy deserves to be pounded.

 
Posted by Aural Assassin on Monday, July 28, 2008 - 9:29 AM
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mr zu

 
Just checked this out - it is a blatant copy to my ears, you're right that is a very low trick - it is a great track
 
Posted by mr zu on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 10:07 AM
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Francy

 
I'm glad I 'have' the original! :)
 
Posted by Francy on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 10:07 AM
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KSClubber

 
it's 100% copied ...
 
Posted by KSClubber on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 10:07 AM
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me

 
i see your point and i guess i would act like that too if i were you, but as we all know in this kind of music there are so many tracks that really reminds others, or even having the same chords or samples.. the question is if shlomi had listened to that legendary track of yours before composing his tune and if he really sampled it.. the truth is that indeed they are so close.. but shlomi has to say something about this i guess..
one love and piece
 
Posted by me on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 10:07 AM
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Poor Van Damme You Got The Flu!

 
Pathetic! His track is the same with the Detroit-ish classic "groove la chord".. Thnx for keeping us posted Aril
 
Posted by Poor Van Damme You Got The Flu! on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 10:31 AM
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Tim Gaal

 
Hi Aril,

I think you're quite right... I seems to me the synth chords are sampled from your track !!

easy way to make some money.... Did you contact him allready?

cheers,

Tim | Perron55 - NL
 
Posted by Tim Gaal on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 10:31 AM
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8rett
Brett Olsen

 
dodge.
i have the original too :)
who the hell is shlomi aber anyway ¿¿¿
 
Posted by 8rett on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 10:33 AM
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Aku Aku

 
100%copy
what a f..... b.....!
 
Posted by Aku Aku on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 10:33 AM
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Spherik
Spherik Productions

 
Full support from the Spherik and Agartha Crew
 
Posted by Spherik on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 10:42 AM
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Lorenz Brunner

 
thats unbelievable...

i mean....thats just f§%*ing lame! i ll spread that news
 
Posted by Lorenz Brunner on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 11:01 AM
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Ari
Ari Shark

 
This is my favorite cut of yours, and to find it sampled just leaves me with the same feeling I got when I found out Daft Punk basically bought, sampled, and looped most of their tracks from American mo-town funk artists.


It's sad what people resort to when they lack the talent to accomplish their goals.

-Ari-
 
Posted by Ari on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 11:01 AM
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Okata

 
anyway whi the fuck knows this shlomi facking coppier']
keep up y our good work man
 
Posted by Okata on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 11:02 AM
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Matt

 
he just had an Essential Mix and has his own label, with supporting artists Gel Abril, Itamar Sagi, Emmanuel, Samuel L Session + Chymera. I'd say a good bit of people know who Shlomi Aber is.


to be honest, i'm not really sure what to think. when Efrat came out, i knew it sounded like a familiar track that I couldn't place. i'm a big fan of Shlomi's releases, but I think I'm gonna side with you on this one, considering there are no creds tossed your way.


unfortunately, it seems as if this is common in dance music :/
 
Posted by Matt on Sunday, July 20, 2008 - 12:40 PM
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THE ARCHITECT
silvio di monaco

 
100% copy!!!...embarassment!!
 
Posted by THE ARCHITECT on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 11:03 AM
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Tony Lionni

 
I have the same feeling about a track of mine called Papaia I feel has been very closely copied by a well known UK artist recently.....
Take care Aril man hope to meet you soon man
Tony Lionni
 
Posted by Tony Lionni on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 11:03 AM
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Goran Kan
Goran Kan

 
my support mate, whatever u decide to do.. if there is anything that can be done :)
that track had influence on me big time as well :)
cheers
 
Posted by Goran Kan on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 11:03 AM
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Su

 
That is just plain wrong.

 
Posted by Su on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 11:15 AM
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Christian Schwarz

 
Okay Aril, I do understand your thoughts. But I listened to the track and I think there is a similarity, but it is not as big as sampling for example a whole hook-line or voice samples. For real it could be that it isn't your synth-line. And if it is you your synth, maybe it is the next step of post-modern sampling. Why should only vocals and hooks be sampled, why not synth lines too. I do understand your critics, therefore the song has nothing more, than this synth. But maybe you did a second big impact in modern electronics, stealing or as It is called sampling ones synth comes in fashion.


All the best...

Christian
 
Posted by Christian Schwarz on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 11:15 AM
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lemonhead
Szczepan Janda

 
next stupid situation in electronic dance music.... c'mon Aril!!
 
Posted by lemonhead on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 11:16 AM
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MAXX-T // Evolutive System

 
Grrrrrr !!! Fuck the copiers.


Copiers, are real bastards.

"Groove la Chord" is one of my "all time" track, I play this vinyl for every time I am invited to mix.


I'll never played this copy, as no other copy of his Detroit.

I play originals in tribute to the artists and their work and ONLY on vinyl, no cd's no mp3 ..


resists Aril, we're all with you.


Best

Maxx-T
(code 316 / Detroit Techno Militia)
 
Posted by MAXX-T // Evolutive System on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 11:21 AM
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MAXX-T // Evolutive System

 
Remember ;-)


 
Posted by MAXX-T // Evolutive System on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 11:33 AM
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Atle

 
Apart from being one of my all time fave's, It's quite clear that Groove La Chord in this case has been ripped off by Shlomi Aber.


I have recently experienced the same problem with my own most seminal record: Brother Brown feat. Frankée : "Under The Water".


Not only was it ripped off by some Italian trance douchebags without permission but on top they also found the nerve to copyright the entire song as being their own body of work!

I can only recommend you to do as we did: Seek immidiate legal advice and claim what is rightfully yours, both financially and intellectually.


Best Regards

Atle
 
Posted by Atle on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 11:33 AM
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dave
Dave Sterling

 
even if he hasn't stolen by sampling, he has copied your track blatently. im sure if he sampled your synth sound and used it in a whole new way, you, as an artist would be fine with that...but this is not what he has done.

 
Posted by dave on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 11:34 AM
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Pang-Lo

 
Aril, there is nothing new under the sun. chalk it up as you being a HUGE influence on this guy and keep it moving forward.



How about making "groove la chord" available to the new generation?
 
Posted by Pang-Lo on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 11:38 AM
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oliver

 
shame on mr aber
 
Posted by oliver on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 12:18 PM
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609 basic
Darko D.

 
many of the new artists are trying to do as less work/effort to get as much success/profit from it - this is a real example of this kind of bussiness that emerged in the last 4-5 years with that new mp3/digital music era...

everyone can open it's own label nowadays - make as much tracks as he wants, and sell them online without anyone's real quality control...

you have my support whatever you do with this matter - Groove la Chord is one of my all-around favorite tracks ever...

cheers from Croatia (Zagreb), and hoping to see/hear you again here soon...
 
Posted by 609 basic on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 1:19 PM
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Trick-C.

 
One of my first tracks with big influence on my love for electronic music was Art of vengeance EP...also a little bit later the release on Transmate 23...(cords again)
Aril, you are not wrong (just oldschool hehe),
but so right....these cords are in my opinion a trademark of your work and noone should sample them...without permission...

Big respect to your work...youre oldschool fan...

Carmen
 
Posted by Trick-C. on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 1:19 PM
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Liquid

 
no one will ever come close to groove la chord!!
you did it with chords, period.


who the fuk is schlomi aber?
 
Posted by Liquid on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 1:19 PM
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vj - netzair

 
yeah not cool...
 
Posted by vj - netzair on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 3:06 PM
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Jay Galligan
Jay Galligan

 
Have you received a response about this from shlomi aber?

I just heard his version and it does seem very fishy.

 
Posted by Jay Galligan on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 3:06 PM
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FluxTrax

 
Ok, it is similar, built around more or less the same idea. But unlike "Groove la chord" there is actually two chords in that riff. It doesn't even have the same riff.
I look at "efrat" as a track taking some of the ideas from "Groove la chord" (taking rich chords and using filters to create harmonic movement, not totally unlike some of the earliest "Phylypps tracs" by Basic Channel) and fusing it with the current "minimal" trend (which is just a continuation of what BC (and you) did back in time)
Obviously inspired by you but it's not a blatant ripoff. There are much worse cases of that around. Besides, I think the legalities when it comes to sampling clearance seems very arbitrary to me, seems like only factor here in deciding between "right" and "wrong" is power and money. And throughout House History there has been many cases of artists byting each others tracks it's almost tradition.. Consider yourself included in the house music cannon!
 
Posted by FluxTrax on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 3:09 PM
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Aril Brikha

 
im not exactuly sure what you mean with 2 chords and not the same riff?
its the same chords, played the same way as in my groove la chord-shuffle mix.
 
Posted by Aril Brikha on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 3:24 PM
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anthony shakir
anthony shakir

 
hey aril,

i have come to think that in todays matketplace, you have'nt really arrived unless you have been sampled by someone. it shows that your instincts were correct when you were surrounded by doubters when you were told you were'nt doing real music because it was'nt guitar driven. or when it was being written off as faddish.

20 years after the fact, the music still thrives. and when i met you at derirck may's place, i did'nt know i was standing next to a maker of classic music. i will pay more attention next time. and consider it flatery that they are copying your licks as the musicians use to say in music circles. it means you are doing something right, and that they don't want to be left behind. peace and continued success.


anthony shake shakir.

frictional recirdings.

detroit, michigan.

 
Posted by anthony shakir on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 11:13 PM
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Eric

 
theres no need to contact him,he knows he stole ur tune mate!:D
i'd rather say kick his ass ; )

cheers
 
Posted by Eric on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 3:09 PM
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Rita

 
I just listened to that AberEFFERS track and it literally made my stomach in knots-i feel sick-thats a rip off if i ever heard one!! People-if you know true music you would know the ORIGINAL! "ARIL BRIKHA" GROOVE LA CHORD! and for that Aberipoff..Tisk Tisk-its a dirty world to be mocking.

 
Posted by Rita on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 3:09 PM
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KILLERS KISS ℵ➷➲▲
Killers Kiss

 
Catch him if you can!
 
Posted by KILLERS KISS ℵ➷➲▲ on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 3:10 PM
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rhythmicmusic.com

 
i can hear some aril brikha samples in fedde le grandes 3 minutes to explain ;)
 
Posted by rhythmicmusic.com on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 4:12 PM
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Illya

 
Well, there's no doubt about Shlomi Aber's "Efrat" by listening that track.

"Groove La Chord" is still an amazing track... 10 years after! A lot of tracks loses their soul in time... I don't think "Groove La Chord" is one of them, and that's why we just have to say: Respect!

Sampling had always existed in electronic music's world but when you sample something, u have to be aware of different things:
- it's pretty difficult to sample anthems cos' you have to bring something new to the original stuff. For that, whereas Efrat is the most popular Aber's track on Beatport, I'm not sure that the target is reached...
- you have to be sure you "cleaned" the sample with original composer

But the most important thing:
You NEVER have to make records just for fun... You have to CREATE something that brings something new.
You have to do your own stuffs because a track is simply a part of your soul! And that is right especially for a commercial purpose!

Shlomi Aber has done some nice tracks by the past but I hope he will be aware of his mistake and apologize soon.


Meanwhile, I'll still listen Aber's tracks because he's a real talent like Guy Gerber.


Cya
 
Posted by Illya on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 4:13 PM
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yom

 
hi,

make sure you have our support !
you paved the way, dawn!

on the other hand, your music should be more widely and easily developed through recordshops, resellers and web sites
your masterpiece "departure in time" is not any more available for years
I found your last album far away out of my country...

how people can know the truth if they have no access to your music?
like you said, how the new generation could know it if she never access to your music?

it reminds me the "jaguar" hit which had been copied so that UR was obliged to spread it massively on cd version

I hope you understand my point of view but please make sure you have my support !

P4U
yom
 
Posted by yom on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 9:34 PM
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Alpha Numeric

 
Hey Aril, I met you a few years ago in the elevator at the Marriott, and oddly enough DJ Minx played this exact track in her set that same night. All I have to say, as an artist struggling with being reckognized, if you don't get there yourself, you're a piece of sh!t. So since there are cover bands in the rock industry, are we seeing the new age of cover producers? That was a joke.

 
Posted by Alpha Numeric on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 9:41 PM
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p. slayvins
James Wayborhood

 
i don't know i think there's a "groove la chord" preset on a vst i saw being advertised by sasha on beatport...

ha jk but yeah it's obviously a sample because he is constantly reversing segments of the chords in that efrat track. and you're right about the sweeps being identical to yours.
but shit maybe he got himself a nord modular and sat down and tried until he got your exact tone?

just make sure that some very well-armed fans of yours in detroit don't catch wind of this and try to find this guy...
 
Posted by p. slayvins on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 9:35 PM
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nik frankenberg

 
funnily enough, i had "efrat" on my ipod and while going for a run it came on and i thought: hey, that would fit nicely with groove la chord..

i didn't get back to actually comparing the two then. now i must say, the similarities are pretty astonishing, even the clap sounds exactly teh same! what surprises me, is that someone of shlomi abers abilities would do this.

i don't see any problem in making a little extra-version of some classic to play out in your sets, but as soon as a release is considered, you should get in contact with the original composer and see what he thinks about the whole thing.

either shlomi aber believes the similarities are smaller than what we can hear, or he thought no one would notice. both varieties are a bit weird in my opinion..

nevertheless, big up aril brikha for your great tracks.
i've had many wonderful moments playing them and dancing to them : )
 
Posted by nik frankenberg on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 9:37 PM
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Shlomi Aber

 
Hi everyone
That's been way out of head ,
I just notified about this sad blog and nevertheless this sad issue.

At the beginning I was sure it’s a joke, though seems like aril go'n to far here.

I been very disappointed to see mr brikha posting this blog , acting like complete jerk , and avoiding checking this issue with me first .


To make all clear … the main synth , PLAYED out from my access Virus Ti !! , PRESET H46, twiked form ( you all welcome to check it easily )

which to be honest you can find in 1000 other tracks.

All of the tracks samples , notes and keys been clear and original , im not stealing parts and have no reason to do so,
the sound may be a bit sounds on the same idea , but i guess he also used the same preset .

I can say the same about million other tracks I found on the net which contains sounds
From my tracks, which means , that if we using preset we don’t Owens them , if you check carefully you can find million other tracks
Which used with the same preset, though non of them is tagged as "Shlomi Aber" and didn’t pull the fire in.

I wonder what of the german producers wav will say about it , as they all use the same moog's bass and machines.


as I do got the proofs for all the above .. and as this accusation was unforgivable , a legal acts on my behalf been exercise at this matter
So a nice surprise waiting for Mr Brikha very soon , im sure he will check the facts deeper for the next time before he will accuse someone
In something without any proofs, and playing with someone else name and carrier with no justifications.

from both me and him , im the one who hold the proofs.


have a nice day

Best Regards

Shlomi Aber
 
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L’Absent

 
its verry weak

like whatever u might say

the sound is to similar the groove the melody the soul the spirit

and it'll never be as good as the original

cause it just ain't original lets say its just a bad wannabe groove la chord track and does'nt even has the same fun factor

and it does sound sampled :p

this must go down in the history of electronic music as just being a bad artist :p

not being able to make good/ your own sounds

like u said i wanna hear some 1000 other tracks using that sound bring em on

prolly u knew what u where doing but u just didn't give a damn

groove la chord is a great well known track

ain't got no respect for people like u

thats like i said before just verry weak

bummer

RESPECT TO THE BRIKHA SOUND not many people R true real artists like u

remember the pots and pans ??? :p
 
Posted by L’Absent on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 4:29 PM
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Aril Brikha

 
hi again,

i made this track 1997, as far as i know there was no virus ti at that time, neither have i owned one.
i programmed the sound from scratch on a ensoniq sq-80, never been much for using presets and back then never was able to since there was not really presets on synths like that you could actually use. i programmed all my strings, chords and baslines on my ensoniq, basstation and later nordlead.

when it comes to these millions of tracks being THAT similar to groove la chord...im really curious on hearing them. as i mentioned before...i have NEVER made a statement like this to any other similar tracks...until now.
its more than a matter of using a preset....im listening to the timbre of it..meaning the "klang" of the sound and its odd that its in the EXACT same key, same chord and then played the same way as groove la chord. also as someone stated earlier...the clap sounds quite similar.

as far as to the legal threats being made by mr aber...what can i say, i havent re-posted the private message or actual threat he sent me with a less diplomatic tone. i have stated i have no intention to take legal actions, nore am i interested in a legal process. if this was such an unforgivable accusation, im sure mr aber would know himself that im full of shit and be confident in it.

i can only trust my ears and i have for the past 15 years. im not actually sure a lawyer is the proper person to talk to when it comes to dancemusic, unless you find one knowing his way around programming a ensoniq sq-80...;)

have a great day,

aril brikha
 
Posted by Aril Brikha on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 10:09 PM
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Ross
Ross Mcmillan

 
tracks are pretty much the same...I know what I would fucking do........
 
Posted by Ross on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 9:38 PM
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Steven Figurine

 
how unfortunate.

 
Posted by Steven Figurine on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 9:38 PM
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Prins Fokker + Whateverfriend

 
I can understand you're having a hard time.

You do all the work and some guy will get credit, if you don't take this to court.

And you really should, if only it were to make him realise what he did.

It don't need no club-loving judge/jury to get your right!
I like your music as an inspiration, but I'd never ever use a sample.

I'd be pretty upset too if someone would stole my work.

 
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