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Wednesday, April 05, 2006 

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This is a modified response [that I gave this AM] to a blog about a movie (United 93)
that will soon be in theaters about what transpired on 9/11.

Hollywood seems to have a love affair with manipulation, using, & bullshit schemes!!!!

Now, I'm all for documentaries, that educate & enlighten.... 
but, I'm NOT for a motion picture [such as this one] where a director is RECREATING
the tragedy & emotions that're associated with the event ON PURPOSE for entertainment.

Everyone's KIDDING THEMSELVES if they think that the images of 9/11 WON'T resonate
within their soul & mind, for the rest of their lives
....
to imply that we'll somehow magically forget about 9/11, is bordering on STUPIDITY!!!!

Folks are KIDDING THEMSELVES by underestimating the memories of people....
there are countless examples of traumatic historical events that people haven't forgotten
to this very day & many of these people have NEVER seen a movie about it.  For instance....
has The Arab World forgotten about The Crusades CENTURIES after they happened????
NO & they DIDN'T need to see Orlando Bloom's flick just to make them remember
[furthermore, nobody living today even witnessed the bloodshed of those wars].

NOBODY's forgotten about the dropping of our atomic bomb on Hiroshima in 1945.... 
& has there been a motion picture made within the past 20 years about it????  NO!!!!
Despite the fact that MOST of us weren't even alive the day that it happened,
we still know about the event b-cuz it's a part of American history that's being taught daily.

NOBODY's forgotten about the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor,
from the day that it happened until Ben Affleck's film came out &
seeing his movie DIDN'T raise our awareness of the tragedy anymore than it'd already been.
Again, b-cuz it's a part of American history being taught every day.

So, regarding 9/11....
I think it's ludicrous to act like Hollywood must PLAY with people's FRESH emotions &
use "or else they'll forget" as a bullshit smokescreen for the studios' motivation to
make money b-cuz they can't drive people into the cinema without making a film about
2 cowboys fucking behind their wives backs
[the same Jerry Springer shit that we see daily].

So, let's deal with this RIDICULOUS belief that we as Americans will forget 9/11
[even though every Chicago Cubs fan remembers the last time they won The World Series]!!!!

Now, granted, people's attention spans are extremely short nowadays [thanks to TV]....
but, it DOESN'T take a rocket scientist to realize that the WORST American tragedy WON'T
be forgotten by us or future generations
[based on previous historical examples alone,
that weren't even televised @ the time that they happened].

If a woman got raped by somebody who was sick enough to videotape the crime....
are you trying to tell me that her psychiatrist would need to pop the tape into the VCR, 
just to make certain that she always remembers the trauma that she was put through????
C'mon now folks----there are some things that will ALWAYS stick with ya [like giving birth].

If you REALLY think that Americans are gonna forget about 9/11....
then, let's force every rape victim in America to watch Thelma & Louise once per year
[but, only the part where Geena Davis was being raped].  And when the scene's finished,
we can tell them, "We're only showing you this, b-cuz we DON'T want you to forget the
trauma that you had to live through". 
Think of how cruel that would be.

When soldiers see their friends die by a roadside bomb....
they DON'T need CBS News to replay the footage for the next 50 years,
in order for them to remember the emotions of seeing blood & guts splattered everywhere.

If we REALLY need Hollywood studios to ensure that we as Americans remember 9/11....
then the U.S. govt. might as well legalize weed & stop bitching about short-term memory loss.

Traumatic events, such as 9/11 will NEVER be erased from the American psyche b-cuz
we were all there watching people jumping from the towers to their deaths in our
TV-addicted society.  Unlike many other tragedies, 9/11 was televised LIVE for us all to see.

I dunno about you guys, but I question the makeup of people that actually BELIEVE that
Americans will forget 9/11 unless movies are made about it....
the whole thing stinks of a Hollywood ploy!!!!
 
I don't need Hollywood to manipulate WHAT I SAW WITH MY OWN EYES [for profit],
in order for me to remember the bloodshed of 9/11 & I'm deeply offended that people are
naive enough to buy the idea that this shameful Hollywood scam NEEDS to be done.
Unless the movie's for a G-rated crowd, then NONE of us need to see what we already saw!!!

Wake the fuck up, quit being paranoid, & stop kidding yourselves!!!!
Nobody's REALLY gonna forget....   & if somebody would choose to forget what they saw,
then think about how traumatizing the events of that day must've been for them [to do that].
And that's a good enough reason why it's TOO SOON to do dramatic interpretations of 9/11.
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Jean

 

Very well said.  I agree completely.  Unfortunately there are too many people that only see dollar signs and don't really care about other people.

Keep up the good work.  I thoroughly enjoy reading your blogs.


 
Posted by Jean on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 2:01 PM
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Tony Blogtana
Tony Blogtana

 
The day that 9/11 happened....

"Geez, I wonder how long it's gonna take for Hollywood to jump on this????  They're NOT gonna do it right now, b-cuz the images are so fresh.  But, give em' a few years & somebody will do it, claiming that we're all gonna forget unless they put their film out there".

BTW - I always appreciate the folks who read my blogs & enjoy them.  Thank you for @ least being interested enough to keep coming back.
 
Posted by Tony Blogtana on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 2:14 PM
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Tricky T Flash

 

i totally agree.

and you know that there will be many people who disapprove of Bush using this movie as a political pedastool...not even realizing that they are being sucked in by the hollywood machine...


 
Posted by Tricky T Flash on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 2:07 PM
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Tony Blogtana
Tony Blogtana

 
Well, @ the rate that Bush is going right now, maybe it'd be BEST if he used it as a political tool.

His own party wants NOTHING to do with him anymore, b-cuz of his incompetence....  so, maybe if Bush pushed this film, then the studio will change its mind & decide NOT to release it?

Just wishful thinking.
 
Posted by Tony Blogtana on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 2:16 PM
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Tricky T Flash

 

i wasn't even trying to make any sort of political statement of my own...other than saying that some people may use it to further the bush sucks cause...without realizing they are being sucked in by the hollywood monster.

 

but you are right...maybe he could do one thing good by pushing the video...and then it wouldn't be released...hahah!


 
Posted by Tricky T Flash on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 2:24 PM
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Tony Blogtana
Tony Blogtana

 
I think that you're right about people being sucked into the Hollywood monster, if they approach it from the standpoint of "Bush sucks, look @ how he's promoting this film".

But, in the end, the controversial nature of the film alone was gonnabe enough to fuel the machine [& that's exactly what the studio was banking on].  

The studios are gonna dress it up as "PEOPLE WILL FORGET, IF WE DON'T RELEASE THIS FILM NOW"....   but, they're NOT telling us the REAL reasons behind their choice to release this film now.

If Hollywood decided to wait until 2020 to make a film about 9/11, then the release of their film WOULDN'T have generated any controversy.

Sure, they would've gotten press simply for doing the film....   but, the idea of it being inappropriate to release it [when the images are so fresh in people's minds] would be a NON-issue in the year 2020 [almost 20 years would've passed since the tragedy].

Waiting 5 years was their PERFECT window of opportunity, to generate controversy about the film & keep it in the press for a long time.  Basically, they can spend LESS money marketing this film [than they would've spent on trying to pitch HAROLD & KUMAR GO TO AFGHANISTAN or sumthin'].  It was the perfect time to hit Americans, b-cuz NOT enough time has passed for Americans to have ceased talking about 9/11 altogether.

Right now, people still talk about 9/11 constantly b-cuz nobody's found Osama bin Laden & Bush has launched his war.  But, in 15 years, the odds are that the subject of 9/11 will only be talked about in the public/press once per year on the anniversary [outside of schools] & Osama will probably be dead.

So, I know exactly whatcha mean about the Hollywood monster.
 
Posted by Tony Blogtana on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 2:36 PM
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Jerrod
Jerrod Smith

 
So I guess next comes the movie about Europeans going into Africa and taking just about everything they could from it and then portraying it as a savage continent that has always been under-developed so that blacks won't feel so bad about being taken away from there.  That's one tragedy that people seem to have miraculously forgotten about. 
 
Posted by Jerrod on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 2:29 PM
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Tony Blogtana
Tony Blogtana

 
LOL - that's exactly what I was thinking about.

If you make a movie about the slave trade, then Americans say, "We've gotta forget about these things, or else we'll NEVER be able to move forward.  Let's leave the past, in the past".

But, when it comes to 9/11, everybody's shitting bricks about some ridiculous fear that we'll forget about the horrific events that we witnessed 1sthand.

Yet, people would blow a gasket if I walked around saying, "Yeah, yeah, 2 planes hit the WTC & 3000 people were killed....   I saw it!!!!  Enough already!!!!  Before we make a film about 9/11, we should @ least make a movie about the 80,000+ people that were killed in the earthquakes of 1998".
 
Posted by Tony Blogtana on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 2:43 PM
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Tricky T Flash

 
it's called selective memory...sad but true.
 
Posted by Tricky T Flash on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 2:30 PM
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sasha

 
my take on this is how do u think it would take before we see hurrican Katrina the movie?  I don't think it will wait 6 yrs I would be suprised if there isn't someone working on that right now.  Then again I'm sure they want to let that go b/c it showed how racisit our country still is and how racisit our president is.  Maybe it should be a Spike Lee joint and it might show the truth of the situation and not just the devestation.
 
Posted by sasha on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 3:14 PM
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Tony Blogtana
Tony Blogtana

 
If Hollywood ever decided to do a movie about Katrina....   then, the plot would be centered around a bunch of old folks that got evacuated & every other aspect of the hurricane WOULDN'T be depicted.

I think that it would take somebody like Spike Lee or Steven Spielberg to actually show the TRUTH about what really was going on.

I wonder if Hollywood's gonna do a movie about Bush's video conference with NOAA [prior to Katrina hitting] where he said, "We're prepared to give you everything that you need".
 
Posted by Tony Blogtana on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 4:25 PM
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Tony Blogtana
Tony Blogtana

 
Damn, the best blog writer that you know????  Well, shit, that's quite an honor [I must say].

I had to really sit back & think about whatcha said regarding Bush's approval rating increasing thanks to this film....   and I've come to the conclusion that you're right [it will].

Also, speaking of his approval rating....   a few months ago, I was checking out an article that was posted online about how Bush raises the terror alert level whenever the media reports that his approval rating has taken a dip.  The article even had a graph showing his approval rating as it relates to the terror threat level & links to articles showing when terror alerts had been issued, as well as articles showing when his approval rating had dipped.

When I looked @ the information....  it was downright sickening how accurate their theory was.  So, the last time that the media reported that Bush's approval rating had hit an all-time low [a few weeks ago], I said to myself, "OK, let's see if Bush issues a terror warning OR raises the alert level"

And whatta you know!!!!  2 days later, The Bush Administration raised the terror level & claimed that they were doing it b-cuz Al-Qaeda was planning to strike @ a sporting event [right around the time that March Madness started].

Need I say that my jaw hit the floor????!!!!
 
Posted by Tony Blogtana on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 5:29 PM
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Malove

 
Tell that to the people who produced "The Passion of Christ..."

I dunno - I have mixed feelings on this issue. There have been a lot of powerful movies based on stories of the individuals dealing with unimaginable trauma, both real and imagined. They play to the archetypes of heros and villians, the courageous and the cowardly, those redeemed and damned by their behavior in such circumstances.

It's storytelling. That's what movies do. 9/11 events make for an extremely compelling story, and one in which everyone has a "where were you when the planes hit" story of their own. I'm not sure there's a grand purpose or lesson in the retelling... it's just commiting to film a dramatization of events that we all can identify with.

Do they want to make money? Sure! If people don't want to see it, or they do a sucky job of it, they won't. Will it harm moviegoers? I don't know- usually storytelling is cathartic - the more it's told, the more it's processed and the less it's felt personally; internally - it becomes collective, emotionally.

There are some stories that I personally don't want to know. I had trouble with "Saving Private Ryan.." Images from it still haunt me today. But it's still an amazing tale of individuals in a horrible war (and what war isn't). And many thought Speilberg did a good thing by depicting the realistic aspects of it. There was even a book written on vets' reactions to it - here's what one person said about it: "It was an honor to work on this book., April 17, 1999
Reviewer: Jesse Kornbluth (New York, NY USA) - See all my reviews
(REAL NAME)
When we created the 'Saving Private Ryan' site on AOL (AOL Keyword: Saving Private Ryan) last summer, all we knew is that this was not like other movies --- after you saw it, you HAD to share what you felt. Almost 30,000 members did just that on our message boards. We've chosen 100+ favorites for this book. It's a testimonial to the film, to our veterans --- and, not least, to the AOL community. If you read it, better have Kleenex handy. And know that all royalties are going to veterans' charities."

So.... there you go - my two-cents. There will be some who probably appreciate very much that their and their loved-ones' stories are told in this movie. I don't have a problem with that.
 
Posted by Malove on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 3:54 PM
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Tony Blogtana
Tony Blogtana

 
It's unrealistic for anybody to think that a film on 9/11 would NEVER be done....

But, my problem is with the TIMING of it [the issue that the studio itself raised, as their justification for why they couldn't wait to do a film on 9/11].

The studio is defending its choice to make this film NOW, b-cuz they claim that Americans will somehow forget about the 9/11 tragedy if Hollywood fails to release this film [which is an argument that has no merit whatsoever].  It's really just a LAME excuse for Hollywood to salvage whatever money's left in a dying MOVIE-GOING industry [that's been killed by their haste to release their shit on DVD].

Jesus Christ was crucified over 2000 years ago & Christians haven't forgotten.  They aren't able to hold their tears back anymore than they were doing it when he was nailed to the cross [Mel Gibson's film proved that].  And again, NO Christian was alive to see him crucified & the 1st motion picture WASN'T even produced until 1900 years after his death.  Yet, Christians refuse to forget about it.

So, if that's the case, then what makes people think that 9/11 is gonnabe forgotten by ALL OF US who witnessed it in the SHORT span of 5 years????

Sure, 9/11 is a compelling story....   but, what makes it so compelling in this day & age ISN'T necessarily the tragedy itself [b-cuz it's NO MORE tragic than the tsunami disaster].  The thing that makes it compelling right now is the fact that WE ALL LIVED IT!!!!

But, for our great grandchildren, the thing that'll make the story of 9/11 so compelling will be the VERBAL & WRITTEN accounts of the events that transpired on that day [NOT the footage that we saw with our own eyes on CNN, CBS, ABC, or NBC].

In 150 years, our great grandchildren WON'T even be looking @ a film like United 93.  Though I'm Black, I've NEVER seen the film BIRTH OF A NATION [it's NOT like I can go to Blockbuster, rent a copy of it, & blow off the dust before putting it into my VCR].  But, seeing that old movie ISN'T gonna reinforce the fact that I know racism is real!!!!

So, if Spike Lee got on TV telling Black folks that he's gonna remake BIRTH OF A NATION for the sake of ensuring that we remember that racism is alive....   then, I'd just be like, "Yeah right, you money-driven muthafucka!!!!  Try blowing some other kinda smoke up my ass"!!!!
 
Posted by Tony Blogtana on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 4:59 PM
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Tony Blogtana
Tony Blogtana

 
If you wanna see what I was talking about regarding Bush's approval ratings & terror warnings, then....

Checkout this blog & scroll down to August 5, 2004


 
Posted by Tony Blogtana on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 7:44 PM
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Ashley

 
readin this made me think about the nazis and the jews in the internment camps, and how some people claim that the holocaust never happened...do you think that would ever happen with 9/11? i dunno, give it 50 years, and who knows...good blog tho, i agree
 
Posted by Ashley on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 5:21 PM
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Tony Blogtana
Tony Blogtana

 
I remember that in the days following 9/11, the news interviewed SEVERAL Arabs in The Middle East who said that "Nobody REALLY hit The World Trade Center.  America & Israel are just trying to villify Muslims".

And then, when The CIA released the tapes where Osama bin Laden was talking to his lieutenants about watching the towers fall on TV....   alotta people in The Middle East DIDN'T believe that Al-Qaeda had done it & they claimed that America had made those tapes through computer generation.

They were in denial until Osama bin Laden sent a tape to Al-Jazeera confessing.

And with ALL OF THAT in mind, their denial DIDN'T stop Americans from remembering.  In the end, the rest of the world can act like it didn't happen....   but, we as Americans ALWAYS will.
 
Posted by Tony Blogtana on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 5:44 PM
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Chris

 
Your right that we will never forget what happened on that fateful day. America has a bad habit of focusing on things or replaying things so much we tend to become desensitized to what has occured. Too much of a bad thing and we close ourselfs off to it. Look at the hurricanes last year. After we had 2 or 3 big ones hit we didnt even bother with the last one. We barely even mentioned it in passing. It takes people throwing it in our face every now and then to stir up the old emotions and get us focused again. After a few months we almost completely forgot about the mess thats is the golf coast. We go on with our lives after the event and tend to push it to the back of our minds.
 
Posted by Chris on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 7:15 PM
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Tony Blogtana
Tony Blogtana

 
I think what Tiff said about SELECTIVE MEMORY is dead on.

9/11 is just one of these things that we'll NEVER be able to forget no matter what though.  So, for Hollywood to imply that the American public NEEDS this movie is outrageous.

Each year now, we fly the flags @ 1/2 staff, chime bells in the AM, & have ceremonies all over the country to commemorate 9/11....   so, it's impossible for Hollywood to REALLY believe what they're saying about people forgetting about it.

Shit....   it's been 5 years & I STILL can't forget what I saw, regardless of how much I try.  The WTC was my favorite building in the country & I can't imagine going to NYC without seeing it there anymore.

On 9/11, my mom was in Africa & didn't see what happened.  But, when she cameback, she wanted to see the stuff on 9/11 [during its anniversary] b-cuz she had NEVER seen it before.  I just went into another room, b-cuz I refuse to subject myself to the horror of it anymore.

I popped a video tape into the VCR & recorded the news from that day so that my children could see it for themselves, if they ever wanted to.  But, I've NEVER once popped the tape into the VCR & watched it [since that day].  There's no need for me to watch what was recorded, b-cuz I've already seen everything.  And if my kids & grandchildren ever wanna see the tape, then I won't be in the room while they're playing it.
 
Posted by Tony Blogtana on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 7:59 PM
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anthony
anthony sherrod

 
well it.s all the about makng money so every thing else don,t matter  if they came make money then they will make the movie
 
Posted by anthony on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 3:11 AM
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