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Marlon Knapp


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Age: 47
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City: Wichita
State: Kansas
Country: US
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February 15, 2008 - Friday 

Category: Life

How does writing these rants make me feel about life and other people you ask?

This is how it makes me feel.


Tuesday, February 13th, a Chicago Sun-Times reporter filed a story with the following headline.


Parents protest test in English


I thought to myself, "Self, you have to read this story".


So I did.  I am going to go through the story with you and point out just a few things that seem well, out of touch with reality.


Angry Chicago Latino parents threatened Tuesday to keep their kids home on test day next month if state education officials insist on giving students who are still learning English an achievement test in English.


Ok, aren't ALL students by the very definition "still learning English"?




WTF?


Facing threats of federal sanctions, state officials were ordered last October to give the same state test native English speakers take to some 60,000 Illinois public school kids who haven't yet mastered English.





Listen, I know and work with lots of people who grew up in this country and STILL haven't mastered the English language.  I have been in technical publications for nearly 20 years and I don't believe that I have MASTERED the English language.


During a news conference Tuesday at the Logan Square Neighborhood Association, about two dozen Latino parents charged that the test mandate is "unfair," "anti-immigrant" and anti-bilingual education."


The test is none of those things.  It is merely an ACHIEVEMENT test.  These types of tests measure the progress made from year to year. 


Jesus Tap Dancing Christ.




Unfair?  What's unfair is these "parents" don't seem to care that if they don't force their little snowflakes to learn the language of the land, they are dooming them to a life of poor pay and little chance to fully assimilate into mainstream society.  Don't get me wrong, the world needs ditch diggers too, but what if their child was meant to do great things, but wasn't given the chance just because Madre and Padre decided they didn't need to learn English and the child couldn't communicate their ideas.




Anti-bilingual education?  No, but it does place emphasis on learning the primary language of the land, English.



In no other country do you see such whining about learning the language of the land.  I have friends that have lived all over the world and to a person; they all learned the native language of the country they were living in.  Granted they were given some grief for their respective accents, but they were able to do all that was required in daily life. 

On the other hand, most developed countries of the world are bilingual by mandate.  Nearly all children are required to learn at least one language not native to them.  Of all the languages taught in all the world would you like to guess which one is most common?  That's right, English.  The rest of the world recognizes that due to faster communications and travel, the planet is effectively shrinking.  They also recognize that the majority of the world leaders and leading companies require that their minions be proficient in English.  Why?  Because most of the worlds business is done in English.


Fair doesn't even enter into the equation.  If you want fair I suggest you wait until September, and go to Hutchinson Kansas, that's where and when the state fair is held.  Otherwise, I suggest you start learning the language.

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Norma

 
You are my hero! Rant my friend, RANT!
 
Posted by Norma on February 15, 2008 - Friday - 11:52 PM
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Marlon Knapp

 
Ranting is just one more service I offer, free of charge.
 
Posted by Strangers Have the Best Candy! on February 15, 2008 - Friday - 11:57 PM
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RINK

 
WHAT THE FUCK???!!! that's a phrase i normally submit in WTF form.... however, this story requires the extra letters.

we should all move to mexico...at least the dollar is still strong there.

fuck!! fuck fuck fuck.
 
Posted by RINK on February 16, 2008 - Saturday - 12:12 AM
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Marlon Knapp

 
Yeah, the only problem is they actually have immigration control on that side of the border.
 
Posted by Strangers Have the Best Candy! on February 16, 2008 - Saturday - 12:41 AM
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frau diana

 
the irony of your mentioning that most english speakers haven't yet mastered english is deftly illustrated in the misspelling of the green sarcasm graphic...

you gotta wonder how the spanish-speaking parents (who i assume haven't mastered english - else they'd have taught their children already) came to know there was a test forthcoming when (again, i assume) the notice went home in english...

if they were instead told what was coming by bilingual do-gooders, what's with the do-gooders spending all their time fueling fires when they could just as easily have been teaching the children english...

if the notice went home in both spanish and english, well then that was a serious dumbass attack on the part of those who sent the notice...

just in case anyone's keeping nclb scores, that a whole lotta non-english speaking kids would stay home on test day would only serve to drive the scores up because only english-speakers would be taking the test...with that kind of "improvement" in scores, the district would then qualify for federal "reward" monies offered under nclb...

let the kids stay home...for that matter, send all the kids home except for those few who could ace the test...then the "improvement" in scores would register even higher, and the reward would be more...with all that extra money, the schools could then afford to hire more esl teachers...

sounds win-win to me...
 
Posted by frau diana on February 16, 2008 - Saturday - 1:14 AM
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Marlon Knapp

 
I wondered who would notice the misspelling.

Johnny tell her what she's won!

As to NCLB (No Child Left Behind for those of you living in caves) scoring/reward system, that is the very problem with the entire program. the dichotomy puts school systems and teachers in the business of teaching students to pass tests instead of preparing them for life outside of the testing situation.

Our only hope is that parents will one day resume the role they are meant to have and will again spark the love of learning in their children.
 
Posted by Strangers Have the Best Candy! on February 16, 2008 - Saturday - 1:25 AM
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frau diana

 
spark the love of learning? heh heh...i have sparklers...is this your way of saying we need to light a fire under a few people?

re nclb...bush can shove it up his (no child left without a) big behind...

read it and weep; i know i do:
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/08/28/075842.php
 
Posted by frau diana on February 16, 2008 - Saturday - 3:21 AM
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Marlon Knapp

 
Read it

Loved it

Agree with it


You bring valid points in your arguments against NCLB which of course means most of the sheeple will ignore it. Remember, to truly change things requires action. Something most of this country seems sorely lacking in.

All I can offer you is this.

You are not alone.

Preach on sister!
 
Posted by Strangers Have the Best Candy! on February 16, 2008 - Saturday - 2:12 PM
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Tammi

 
geeze. my question is...why are all the "WHINERS" on this issue Hispanic? You don't hear any of the Asian immigrants flipping out...they get here, work and *gasp* learn English! They assimilate into American culture and still manage to keep their own culture alive. They aren't raising Vietnamese or Laotion flags above American flags...or insisting everyone else learn THEIR language...so I guess I just don't understand why the Hispanic immigrants get the "special" treatment.
 
Posted by Tammi on February 16, 2008 - Saturday - 1:52 AM
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Marlon Knapp

 
You're right about "other" immigrants simply working, learning and actually grasping the American dream. The only answer I have to why the Hispanic population seems so overwhelmed at the prospect is that they are under the mistaken impression that they are "special" and don't have to become part of the fabric that has made this country so great. They don't understand that this is an entire country made up of immigrants that came together for a common cause, to do better than their parents did and hopefully see their children do even better than that.

Maybe one day they will wake up and join the rest of us.
 
Posted by Strangers Have the Best Candy! on February 16, 2008 - Saturday - 1:58 AM
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