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Chris Kratsch


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Gender: Male
Status: Married
Age: 39
Saturday, July 05, 2008 
We attended the Independence Day parade in downtown Aurora yesterday, arriving at about 9:30.  We sat on the west side of Broadway between Galena and Downer.

For some reason, the city hadn't run the streetsweepers before the parade.  The gutters were filled with cigarette butts.  I was trying to kick some of them out of the way, get our little picnic blanket thing spread on the sidewalk, and get the two ambulatory kids settled in.  Sarah, who's two and a half, decided she wanted to stay in the stroller, Caden, five, sat on the curb.

Some friends were meeting us there, and we saw them across the street.  I stood off to the side of our group to mark the territory, so there would be room for everyone.  Caden was up and down, talking to his mom, checking out the storefront bar we were in front of.

Our friends made their way across, and I made another sweep of the area, in case there was something undone that needed doing.  It was at this time that I noticed Caden holding a little booklet.  It had an eagle on the front, and American flags.  I figured it was some politician's handout, or some informational thing from the city, that someone had given him on their way up the street while I was busy with other things.

He looked at it for a few minutes.  He can read quite well, so I knew he was reading it.  Then he asked me, a little nervously, "Dad, what is this?"

I came over by the wall where he was standing and stood next to him so I could see what he was reading.  Ah, I see.  It was a tract from Cornerstone Church.  It was many pages long, mostly text, mostly talking about how the reader is sinful and must repent.

In earlier times, before he was really reading, I would have just told him it was for grownups, given him something else to play with, and left it at that.  But he was sincerely interested now.  I knew I'd have to do some explaining to him at some point; I wasn't prepared for it to be at the Independence Day parade.

"Well," I began, "lots of people have lots of different ideas about what god is.  And some of those people really want you to believe what they believe.  So they print up things like this and hand them out."

He listened, but seemed a little confused.

"This kind of stuff is really confusing for kids.  It's even confusing for a lot of grownups.  You don't have to worry about it right now.  Just worry about being a kid, and your mom and dad will always take good care of you."

I asked him if he wanted me to put it away, and he said no, he liked the pictures.  I wasn't going to take it away from him against his will.  Better that he check it out a little bit with some parental guidance than have it enter the realm of "you can't have that."

He pointed to a word in large print in one of the pictures.  "What does that mean?"

The word he was pointing at was 'sin.'  I knew he could read it, he'd just never heard the word before, and certainly never seen it in print.  I explained that some people use the word 'sin' to talk about the bad things that people do.  That seemed to satisfy him.

He held on to the booklet for a long time, well after he'd finished looking at it.  Finally, he handed it to me.  He looked a little concerned.  "Will you put this away?"

"Sure I will."  I stuck in in my pocket.

It wasn't until we'd gotten home after the fireworks last night that I had more time to think about this incident.  What had happened while neither me nor my wife were looking?  Someone came along and handed my five year old son a Christian religious tract without permission from anyone.

Suddenly, I wondered how that person would feel if I'd handed their kid a pamphlet outlining all the inconsistencies and horrors of the Bible.  Or about Vishnu.  Or Thor.  Or the Flying Spaghetti Monster.  I was a little pissed.

And how sneaky was this thing?  A giant eagle and flying flags on the cover and the back.  A little sticker on the back from the church and its address.  No indication apart from that that inside would be descriptions of how people are innately bad, and need the grace of an invisible spirit to overcome that.

I have a couple of letters to write today.  One, to the city, for not running the streetsweepers before the parade.  The other, to that church, to voice my discontent about their handing their literature to my son without my permission.

Hand it out to adults, fine.  Adults are responsible for themselves.  You've got no business handing that stuff out to minors without their parents' permission.  And kids who aren't even in kindergarten yet?  You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Frankly, you shouldn't even be proselytizing in any way to minors without their parents' permission.

Edit: I realized this later (from the letter I sent them) --

It is the parents' exclusive right and responsibility to raise their children.  You have this right and responsibility as much as I do; it is protected for both of us by (ironically) the nation we celebrate on July 4th every year.
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SebSainclair

 
Have you actually witnessed someone giving the religious pamphlet to your kid? Looks to me that your little boy could have simply pick it up on the floor, thrown by the real someone to whom the pamphlet has been actually handed.

I pray that I won't find myself in a trial in which you are part of the jury...
 
Posted by SebSainclair on Saturday, July 05, 2008 - 9:31 PM
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Chris
Chris Kratsch

 
Highly unlikely. This was well before the parade started. There was no parade detritus on the ground. I've also never known my son to pick up random crap off the ground.

Besides that, I just went downstairs and asked him, "That booklet from yesterday [he remembered it], did you pick that up off the ground or did someone give it to you?"

"Someone gave it to me."

I also asked if the person who gave it to him asked his mommy if they could.

"No, I don't think so."

This is from a kid who - when I ask him if he hit his sister - will tell me he did, even though he knows it means five minutes time out. I have no reason to doubt him.
 
Posted by Chris on Saturday, July 05, 2008 - 10:11 PM
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Jeszaban

 
Do these pushy groups actually believe such aggressive tactics work? We’ve all experienced that in-your-face style of proselytizing. What do I take away from such experiences? Well, what I remember from is that someone just implied that I might be inferior, inadequate, bad if I don't do such-and-such or go to church. I feel lousy. Does this make me want to change? Do I suddenly want to “better myself?” NO! Negative advertising does not work and in fact has the opposite effect than that desired. I vaguely recall a psychological study where a subject watched one party deliver insults to or about a second party. In the end, the subject seemed to ascribe the bad traits to the party who delivered the insults more than the party toward whom the insults were delivered.

I know firsthand that this sort of "we're great and everyone else needs to be fixed” tactic delivered by mainly radical religious groups does nothing more than leave a bad taste in my mouth. And whenever I get that “bad taste” again, for whatever reason, my subconscious recalls that somehow some religious organization had something to do with it. In fact, the last thing I want to do is visit the place or associate with the people that made me feel bad.
The pamphlet was effective, yes – in a way that opposes the goal of the organization. For whenever your son sees similar material he will feel vaguely uncomfortable. Too bad they ruined the flag.

I have to say that the Mormon community out here is very live and let live. Sure they drop by every now and then and hand me yet another paperback Book of Mormon to place in the recycle bin, but they avoid being very pushy. I appreciate and respect that and, as a result, I appreciate and respect their beliefs and think mostly good things of the Mormons I know.
 
Posted by Jeszaban on Saturday, July 05, 2008 - 11:46 PM
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hank

 
Hilarious, i love watching people try to justify their anger at anyone who has an opinion outside of theirs. Always good for a laugh
 
Posted by hank on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 5:41 PM
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Chris
Chris Kratsch

 
As I've alluded to elsewhere, I would also disapprove of someone handing my five year old a pamphlet describing the human reproductive process in complete scientific detail, along with drawings to illustrate - and that's true. I would have a problem with someone handing my five year old a booklet on secular humanism. Why? Because he's five, he's my kid, and I get to decide when he's ready for obviously adult information, regardless of what that information is.

Although I disagree with the precepts put forth in the tract, I am not opposed to the information itself. I am opposed to it being delivered to my son without my permission.
 
Posted by Chris on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 8:34 PM
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