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City: Glasgow
State: Scotland
Country: UK

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Sunday, July 13, 2008 

Recently, I've received several hundred emails from a lot of angry people concerning a blog that I wrote that a site called "Torrent Freak" requested permission to republish. The messages I've received mostly go somewhat like this:

"Dear Money Grabbing Blond bitch whore with sand in your vagina,

Stupid blond, you have no idea how the internet works.
The internet police will never be able to regulate something as popular as file-sharing. Do you really think that the government cares about a college student downloading files illegally when they have more important things to do like catching criminals?…I hate you and hope bad things happen to you because I don't like your opinion"

Love,
Anonymous person"


Well, my answer is "yes", I believe government is very interested. Basically, this whole file-sharing thing doesn't have anything to do with Big Labels or artists wielding hefty lawsuits at their fans (which is crazy) because this whole p2p story has already shifted to government. That's why I mentioned 'fines' rather than lawsuits in my original blog. To be honest, I didn't threaten to sue the Pirate Bay (they just felt like putting the emails in their legal threats section and then wrote a big article about it in an effort to 'humiliate' as they try to do to anyone who doesn't agree with them.)

You see, this is certainly not about me or my music at all. The reason why I've written to all the torrent sites is because I think that government is planning to fine people for file-sharing and if it's not government, you can bet it will be the ISPs who will start to enforce monitoring downloads from unauthorised sites.   My reasons have to do with ethics and how I feel about my fans and how I feel about fair play for musicians in gentera.. In fact, it never had anything to do with me at all. But most of it does have everything to do with 'YOU', the file-sharer. The reality is that it's now been placed in the hands of the governments. The G8 met last week. A lot of things have been happening. In fact, the governments have been watching and waiting. I'll explain.

First of all, let me just say that I think that the idea of music being 'free' is fantastic. I'm also not against file-sharing at all (the concept of it is great, but, again, the creators of the content being shared need to be compensated). I've never sued anybody in my life and I'm not about to start suing people now, especially not my fans! This is simply an open debate and the Pirate Bay chose to start a debate with me. So, I answered them in my personal blog. I don't need any legal advice for this. We all know that debate brings us together and usually brings about some solutions. Anyway, here's my theory spelled out in terms of "history, government, and simple economics".

YOUR QUESTIONS:

So, how can something as popular as file-sharing be interesting for governments to get involved in? and Where will they get the 'resources' to regulate it?… The answer is, they will get the resources from "YOU". Here's what I believe they are planning.

Does anybody remember the Model-T Ford and the assembly line Ford created? Since then, how popular has the automobile become? How many government jobs did it create? And where did the 'resources' come from? Well, let's think about it. Here's a short list:

Fuel exports and imports
Taxes on Fuel
The rising cost of commodities due to a tax on fuel
Parking tickets
Speeding tickets
Drunk driving fines
Licenses, license plates, etc. (this list could go on forever)

How much money have governments been able to generate by that little assembly line that popularised the automobile? And where did they (government) get the money?

(hint: the government got the money/resources from YOU and I. That's right. The tax payers and the 'fine' payers.)

So, how many government jobs do you think they could they create with the internet? Be honest with yourself. How many cars are there in the world and how many computers are in the world? Well, you tell me. Are there more cars than computers?

The problem p2p is facing has to do with history, government and economics. Since we've all heard how history repeats itself, why don't we now take a look at the internet as an example.

In the timeframe between the moment Torrent Freak asked me if they could re-post my blog and the present, there have been several other news releases. Not just the G8 summit and their plans to crack down on piracy, but, also the result of the Viacom/ Youtube lawsuit, letters from Virgin and the BPI to their users, the "3 strikes and your out " debate in France and Canada (and the list goes on). What do I know about the future? Well, the following prophecy I'm about to make seems as clear as day.

I've been watching this internet debate unravel for many years now and let's face it, from an outsider's point of view (mine), I can see how it would be pretty easy for government to step in and regulate. Remember, the 'internet' started out as a bunch of servers on US military bases and University campuses. In fact, regulating the internet is almost as easy as reducing art and music to "0's" and "1's" and duplicating files. In fact, the government doesn't even need to invest or find resources for this one. Why? Because they have "YOU". The government plans to fine you in the same way they did with parking fines and the automobile… only now, it will cost them less money because the internet is, (simply put), made up of a bunch of numbers. In this case, your IP address is making it a cake-walk for them. (Sure, there is encryption... but, how efficient will that be? And yes, an IP address can be stolen. How do you think hackers break into security systems on the net? But, that's another kettle of fish, so, for now, let's talk about one person: you.)

Basically, how can government regulate file-sharing? The answer is simple: They will be able to do it the same way they've done it throughout history. As the economy continues to shift towards telecommunications and internet-based business, don't you think government is likely to move there too? You may argue "they simply don't have the resources"… You see, this isn't about artists and labels suing their fans. (That's just silly.) Nobody is going to sue you. Rather, the government plans to 'warn' you about something that you are doing that is presently illegal (ie: copyright infringement via file-sharing) and then, they plan to slap a little fine on every file-sharer and force the ISP's to turn over your IP address when you break the law. (IP address: well, it's kind of the new Internet Passport… yes, stupid blond here does know that IP stands for Internet Protocol in this instance). Ok, they've already begun with the "three strikes rule" (which is ridiculous.) It's like giving somebody a life sentence for committing a few traffic violations. Nonsensical. I don't see how that one will work in the long-run either. However, what I do see is government easily using you, the file-sharer, as a resource and meanwhile creating a whole new crew of internet police.

Listen, I'm just the messenger here. I've just given you some insight into where I see this heading and why. Do I think it's fair? Well, of course not. I said that at the beginning. Do I think music should be free? Sure I do, I think it's a great idea. However, I think that creators should be able to at least make enough money to reinvest into their art. I also think that it's unfair for a website or torrent search engine to fool their users by making statements about how their site is 'legal' in in their country (but, not necessarily telling you that file-sharing of copyright material is still 'illegal' even in Sweden and in most of the world). I think they must know what the government is planning. We'd all be blind not to see this probability/possibility?

Will they pity you once government kicks in with their plan? Probably not, that's why I'm asking these sites to take links to my music down. I don't want my fans (or potential ones) to be fined for sharing my music. So, by asking the torrents to take down a link, I'm hoping that my fans will find my music for free on sites that are legal and free. You see, I like my fans a lot and I don't want them to be fined. Every single one of my fans are important to me.

Am I telling you the truth? Well, this is just a theory at the moment. So, what if I'm wrong? Well, I could very well be wrong about this…. But, what if I'm right?
Scorpius Poeticus
John Coughlan

 
Well said Indie.....I see the logic. When governments focus on behaviours that they disapprove of but fond difficult to stop... they react by taxing it... in Britain... alcohol, smoking, minor, driving offences, gas-guzzling cars.... see Car Tax retrospective hike due in March 2009..

Thoughtful and sincere as you always are,

regards John
 
Posted by Scorpius Poeticus on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 15:24
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Scorpius Poeticus
John Coughlan

 
PS. re "Dear Money Grabbing Blond ..."

Gratuitous disparagement and offence is the refruge of the odiously inept.

 
Posted by Scorpius Poeticus on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 15:25
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Indiana Gregg

 
you know, the money grabbing blond bitch comments don't phase me. That's simply people hiding behind 'mr. anonymous', what's really surprised me most about this exercise is that people don't have a grasp about what is already happening at all. They are not informed, and yet, they have so much to say. That worries me. What it means is that the new internet culture is relatively faceless. in this new world of internet 'freedom' that a lot of these people say they want... where is the sense of community? That's scary.
 
Posted by Indiana Gregg on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 21:13
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Sally Hope

 
Very astute Indiana and especially cool because 'Oh my god your just a mere woman'!! Yes your a woman with brains and that is scary to people who havn't even 'thought' about 'how' it could go!
How can anyone wish horrible things to another person just because they disagree about what they say! that is bullyish and I truly believe that you get back what you give out.


You rock! and are a very genuine person! You deserve all the sucess you have created and to be paid for your beautiful music.
Who can argue with that? Sally xxxx
 
Posted by Sally Hope on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 15:25
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Paul 92107

 
Brilliantly written. You are obviously a well educated, deep thinking woman who happens to have blonde hair, not a "Money Grabbing Blond bitch whore with sand in your vagina".

 
Posted by Paul 92107 on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 16:09
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IAN

 
Hi Indiana they are some very harsh comments you have received, people don't need to agree with you but it doesn't mean they need to resort to bullying because thats all they are doing.


If the government want to stop them then they will because if they fine every person for doing it because everyone is aware it's illegal to do so they wouldn't have a leg to stand on so they would make a fortune by fining everyone that does it.


Ignore all the comments because you know what you are doing is right and most people will support you.


Take Care XOXO
 
Posted by IAN on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 17:28
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Dwayne Boone
Dwayne Boone

 
I just fell in love with you're mind~! (and what kind of human being would want something bad to happen to someone because they disagree with them?) Let alone "hate you"? I find it disheartening and this really upsets me to the point of sadness, that this is in our world to this day. Pay no never-mind to an evil soul who speaks such rubbish. You are a beautiful mind that god has graced our world with and we need more of such as you're kind my lady. Please pardon said fools.


Dwayne Boone
 
Posted by Dwayne Boone on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 17:29
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Kvn

 
You know Indy, when I read your file and saw what you have gone through, in your life, to be where your at, I was very impressed and then fell in love with you and your music! Now, once again, you have impressed me with the strength of your thoughts and how well you put them on paper, with out a tune to back them up ! Very well written with very strong words.

I hope that the hate mongers go through some transition in their lives, so that they can realize how mean spirited they are.
FREEEEEEEEEEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Kvn on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 18:38
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C x
Clare Louise Smith

 
Go you!
The person who wrote that obviously was a pathetic person who had nothing else to do with their time, thus the childish insults.

Much love Indiana :)
Clare xx
 
Posted by C x on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 18:44
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Sporty

 
Sand in your vagina????? OMG! I hate it when that happens! LOL
Very astute observations my friend. And to think that a woman with a sandy vagina could have such a grasp on the situation. Brains and beauty...WATCH OUT!!!
Funny how the ignorant seem to have the most to say and with all the words they use, say nothing at all...they only show their own ignorance.

You are a very genuine person, you've paid your dues and fought for your place in the sun. You do deserve all the sucess you have and to be paid for your beautiful music.


Always Stay True To Who You Are...

Natalie
 
Posted by Sporty on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 20:20
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Dave Elmore
dave elmore

 
I agree with you when it comes to the file sharing issue but when it comes to society and the changes made within it, I'm very concerned about the way some people treat others via the internet! That message you received or any others like it came from an individual hiding behind the internet. I believe that if you need to hide to say something, what you need more is to keep your mouth shut.
These people were obviously not raised by my parents!
 
Posted by Dave Elmore on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 20:21
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JillySB

 
What a nasty individual,
But like you say they are hiding behind the 'Mr Anonymous' title, that really takes a lot of guts.

Take care x
 
Posted by JillySB on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 00:12
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Rose

 
Anything that is illegal must be somehow put a stop to or those who are producing it get hurt and many people take advantage of what they can steal for free! Universal Laws of Hman Rights will be a future way of regulating things. Human Rights has no boudary of earth or sky and space. So, the G8 should pay attention and so should United Nations to what I have proposed which is Universal Laws ofHuman Rights for Leadership Excellence and people Power and Reform for a safe and free world.
Freedom is not taking advantage of others!
And as for what they have called you for 12 years they have put me on the cross of ignorance and no one has said a word. They say as long as they can bully they will and that is what we must put a stop to.
Humanity and compasson is the answer not bullyism & lies!
 
Posted by Rose on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 00:13
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KJ
K J

 
Well said. Do you think they will listen? History proves that the masses do not learn from the past, so they will likely get caught up in this change, as well.

 
Posted by KJ on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 00:14
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Karen

 
Dear beautiful, ethical, talented, brilliant blonde (:D)-

BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!! My love, all I can say is: Let them show what's wrong and uninformed and cowarldly and assinine in this world, that's their bad. YOU...show them what's possible.
:D <3

Still here, still lovin' ya!
Karen
 
Posted by Karen on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 00:14
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Paul
Paul Landeros

 
Indie,
You're a rare commodity. Beauty, talent and, dare I say it, blonde hair on one side and on the other side a woman that can prove she is extremely intelligent. A deadly combination. You made your points very clear and either people will accept them or think you're just some dumb blonde. If you believe in what you say then I say to hell with what the others think.


A side note I do believe the person who called you those names was completely out of line and a coward for not leaving a name. Makes me think I know who's ignorant.


Take care of your self Indie.


Paul
 
Posted by Paul on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 00:20
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Youshi

 
I want to congratulate you on your opinion. I would recommend that you ignore the uninformed people who attacked you. P2P can be stopped without net police.

Please visit www. safemedia. com. This company produces a network appliance which stops over 650 P2P clients. This is a proof that P2P can be stopped. Many companies, schools and higher education institutions have purchased and implemented this device.

P2P will be stopped because it is harmful to the internet; It uses an overlay routing layer which interrupt the internet normal routing. For the benefit of few thieves we all are paying a higher cost to use the internet. Freedom is infringing on other people rights.

 
Posted by Youshi on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 15:05
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Tony
Tony Morel

 
No offence to Youshi, but I personally don't think that stopping P2P is the answer.

What about all the legitimate use for P2P? That's like banning all cars because drink driving kills.


You ban P2P then a new technology springs up - probably developed by the IT experts who were legitimately using P2P that you've P!$$ed off by banning it!

The problem isn't torrents, it's the fact that a lot of people today have no respect for anyone else. I don't think that the old line about people not realising that downloading is theft isn't true any more, I think people do know that what they are doing is wrong, they just don't care. They want, they take.


Fixing that will take a lot more than just banning a protocol.


As for the abuse that Indiana was subjected to, well I think it says more about the person she is for the way she's handled it than it does about the low lifes that were sending it.

 
Posted by Tony on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 16:13
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Darnell

 
Hi Indiana, another great write up from you. I do feel sad for "Anonymous person" for someone to hate you and hope bad things happen to you because they don't like your opinion, is very sad in this day and age!! You know, I don't really like watching shopping channels, but I don't write in to the presenters and wish bad things on them!!! I just like most people, turn the channel!!! Ah well, there is no pleasing some people.

Keep up the good work!
Darren xx

ps who does not hate you!! he! he!
 
Posted by Darnell on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 19:56
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Jason Shand
Jason Shand

 
I've said it before, and I'll say it again - artists have the power to help stop file-sharing. If every act were united as one and took a stand during live performances, on their websites, etc. Then it would help the cause, not solve it but help it.


Indiana, you have explained the reasons against torrent sites in a way most people can understand, if they are being honest with themselves. Now with no disrespect to you, if bigger, more well-known acts did the same thing, then ignorance would no longer be an excuse for people to do it.


As for the name-calling, etc.
I wonder what they'd call you if you turned up at their work, copied what they did and took it for free!!


Jase xx
 
Posted by Jason Shand on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 20:26
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