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Vincent Louis Donato


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Gender: Male
Status: In a Relationship
Age: 24
Sign: Cancer

City: Bellflower
State: California
Country: US
Signup Date: 10/18/2004

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Wednesday, November 14, 2007 

Current mood:  distressed
Its not often that things go from really bad to bad.. I got to experience that today and it was really something else.  I didnt think the day would come any time soon that I would go to the DMV and feel like there was no where else I would rather be.

So apparently I am an inconsiderate, unappreciative, jerk.  Or maybe I just missunderstood part of a message I was sent today?
"You are an inconsiderate, unappreciative jerk.  That car is not yours yet mister, and might not ever be.  You doing me a favor? Fuck you."
Seems pretty straight forward but I am not all seeing and all knowing.. maybe I am missing something?  Maybe some light will be spread on this message if the events of the day are gone over.  In short, I wake up, my dad asks me if I brought any toilet paper, I groggily say no I forgot, he goes into the other room cursing and throws something comes back in and starts yelling and cursing at me.  I am asked if I know whether I have the apartment that I am applying for yet, and I dont (the office was closed by the time I got there yesterday).  I am called names and told how I dont care about anything or anyone and I dont ever think about anyone but myself, I respond telling him that if that were true I wouldnt be at his apartment planning on letting him borrow my car for the day, at which point he kicks a fan breaking it, then proceedes to get in my face and spray me with saliva saying "Fuck you Vincent, Fuck you!" continuing to cuss me and and call me names.  He tells me to get the fuck out of here so I do.  As he continues to yell at me I jut keep walking and the last thing he says is," If you leave now you arent coming back!"  Im not sure what exactly this was supposed to mean to me, since I had no intention of coming back since the day before, but did because he asked me to so he could borrow my car... I figure it is just something that would have been better used on a girlfriend that didnt have somewhere else to go or something.

Still confused?  So am I!

A little more history on the situation:  Me and my dad have been having some VERY hard times lately.. we havent been getting along at all (pretty much since he got out of the house, it has just gotten more and more intense).  He gets angry at me most day for various things that I do and doesnt hold back much while scolding me.  He feels that I dont appreciate him letting me stay in his apartment without paying rent for all of this time and I have basically been disrepecting his personal space.  We had been fighting and fighting but since he has come back from europe, he has pretty much stopped holding back.. out. no he hasnt dumped tea on my head or banged pots and pans over me while I am trying to sleep,  but he attacks me personally with information that I have confided in him (because I SHOULD be able to trust my DAD with info and not worry about it being thrown in my face later) and tries to intimidate me with name harsh words and violence.  That is what it came down to two days ago while I was trying to get all of my stuff out of his apartment... I had to get it out so I had to listen and put up with it.  He baits me into yelling back and getting emotional.  blah blah blah... in the end he tries to talk to me like a human being and thinks it will make up for all of the shit.  It wont.  He needs a ride to the bank so he can withdraw $1,000 for his tattoo but finds out that he can only withdraw 500 (atm card max) It is a holiday so there will be no way for him to get the rest of the money so I offer to withdraw it from my account and let him borrow the money.  He wanted to buy groceries too but we (thought) we couldnt since we both already withdrew the max for the day.  We have lunch, some random guy on the street recognizes him, "Hey look, its Evel Dick and his son!!"  I take him home, he asks if I can spend the night that night so he could borrow my car the next day (his is in the shop... it was supposed to be worked on while he was in europe, but the insurance companies are idiots and nothing was done at all) so I agreed, he asked me to bring home toilet paper that night and wash the blankets I had been using while I was over his house. I didnt see him until the next day.  He can sling whatever kind of mud and say I did this or that, but in my mind at least, there is no reason for him to treat anyone, much less his own son this way.  Wasnt the first time and Im sure it wont be the last.
It was very hard watching the show this year watching my dad and sister mold how the public perceived them.  It was hard defending my dads actions MANY times from what people would say in messages, chat, and real life, but I always always did, even when I really didnt want to.

I miss my sister and cant wait to see her again.  I texted her today and was very happy at how quickly she responded.

In other news, I am talking to a very pretty girl   Someone at work asked me if anything good was happening and that was the only thing I could think of at the time.
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Ash
Ashley Dodge

 
I'm sorry that you are going through all this Vincent. It's hard though hearing about your problems and not being able to help you in anyway. I know you don't know me but if you ever want to talk to someone feel free to send me an email. It wont bother me in the least.

Kudos and hugs
~Ash
 
Posted by Ash on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 2:21 AM
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»-(¯'ßev'¯)-»

 
Ugh, I think it's sad that you do this to your father, all for attention.

You are trying to publicly humiliate him. Which is wrong. I don't agree with your posts. This should be a family matter and not made public to embarrass someone. You're going to regret doing this someday. He yelled at you? Big deal? Aren't you a grown up? It's not like you're 10 years old. Can't you handle a little name calling? He may be wrong for saying it.. and I'm not saying I agree, but damn you could have went about it in an adult manner and not for the public.

It's time to grow a set of balls Vincent. Maybe your 'e one of those emo kids who can't handle being yelled at, or cannot handle the truth. What you are doing to your own father is repulsive and sick. It just makes you look bad and like an attention whore. My father has yelled at me.. and I'd never in my life humiliate him like you have done to your father.
Just remember friends come and go but family is always there for you! I'm sure your dad will forgive you. Because that's what parent's do.
Take care.
 
Posted by »-(¯'ßev'¯)-» on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 6:38 AM
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Crys

 
I completely disagree with Bev in thinking Vicent is trying to publicly humilate Dick. We all watched him on TV and seen how he was, so its no surprise. And as for agreeing with his post Bev, if you dont agree with it then dont read it. Blogs are for venting, thats what I use mine for. Whatever is on my mind. This incident bothered him so he wrote about it. Do me a favor and read a few random people. Heck read mine if you want. Dont attack Vincent just because your probably a Dick fan.

For you Vincent,

I am a mother of 4 young kids no matter how mad I get I could not imagine calling them names. I even have 2 younger brothers who have lived with me on and off their adult lives and have gotten frustrated that here I am being the responsible one having to pay bills and work and they dont have any of that responsibility. I would get mad yell and scream, once actually got into a physical fight with them. Not having much of a relationship with my father. With all of this I have learned though, with family you learn to take them for who they are, you cant change them. When we get mad we yell, we fight, we say things we dont mean. Then all we can do when we come to our senses is appologize and regret.
It is really great to hear you and Dani are close. I tell my kids all the time they need to not fight so much because when they grow up they are going to need eachother more than they realize. Of course at the ages right now they dont even begin to understand why I say that.
 
Posted by Crys on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 3:08 PM
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<3 DANNA <3
Danna Reusser

 
so so so sorry vincent! maybe things will get better soon! love ya mean it danna
 
Posted by <3 DANNA <3 on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 2:49 PM
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Michael

 
Yeah, because you know, you're not a man if you have a sociopath of a father yelling demeaning things at you. Sounds like the guy who posted this response has some daddy issues himself. My father has NEVER said "Fuck you." to me. Parents don't speak to their children like that, no matter how old they are. End of story. Anyone who defends such behavior is clearly sub-human themselves. And their opinions are worthless, probably much like their overall contribution to society.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

P.S. CBS should be ashamed of themselves for even allowing someone to win a game by putting fear of violence into other people, especially women, but that's something we all already know now, don't we?
 
Posted by Michael on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 4:33 AM
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Ð

 
Too funny!! You stalk my personal profile all day long like the fat loser that you are, and you dare to call me a stalker.... BITCH, PLEASE!!!

You had to build an entire untribe page in my honor because you can't get enough of me...
Face it bitch, You're addcited to me. It's understandable though...
It's one of the downsides to being so awesome :)

Vincent <333
 
Posted by Ð on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 12:36 PM
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☀Susan☀

 
WOW... I NOW NEED A BEER.
 
Posted by ☀Susan☀ on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 2:26 AM
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junglegirljlt
Janet Taylor

 
(((hugs)))
 
Posted by junglegirljlt on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 2:31 AM
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claire

 
Vincent,
I'm not an MD, but I think your dad is dealing with Bipolar disorder. His highs and lows and outbursts are classic symptoms. If he were to take medication on a consistent basis you would not see this kind of behavior. I can now understand why your sister did not speak to him for so long. It would be in your best interest to live in separate apartments. You can love him from afar until he gets stable. I wish you the best.
 
Posted by claire on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 2:38 AM
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Private
Private Account

 
You think? His dad has admitted it. He may have a touch of it but he does not have extreme highs and extreme lows like you are making it sound. You or I was not there and know what the specifics are by both. It is not helpful to put blame on individuals. Everyone has issues and everyone deals with them different. It is hard to be a parent and try to help our children as our children and try to get them to grow up at the same time. It is hard to be a young adult wanting to be treated as an adult but yet still needing our parents. That's that.
 
Posted by Private on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 3:30 PM
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CINDY

 
How do YOU know what highs and lows Dick has? He HAS admitted he has bipolar and it is very evident by how he acts. Yes, he SHOULD be on medication for it, obviously. It has ruined all his relationships. That is also obvious. Drinking just makes it worse, as does doing street drugs. It's a tactic lots of bipolar people use in lieu of taking the proper medications, and it only makes them screw up more.

I feel very sorry for both of Dick's kids, as well as anyone else in his life that has to put up with him. He needs help. The best thing Vincent could do is get away from him.

Anybody who defends the way Dick treats people needs to have their head examined. Vincent is right, no matter how much of a screw up his dad might think he is, NOBODY deserves to be treated that way. It's clear that Dick lied when he said his actions were strategic in the house. He is just a jerk who treats people badly...period.

It appears that Dick was faking all the "good dad" crap to make America (and the fellow HG's) like him more. All his talk about Vincent and now look how he treats him. The only reason he's treating Dani better now is because she helped him win $500K.

Hang in there Vincent. I know what it's like to live with someone who is bipolar. It's not your fault and you need to protect yourself by staying away from him as much as possible. Don't let him guilt you into thinking it's your fault.
 
Posted by CINDY on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 7:18 PM
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HuLaGirL

 
Awwwwwwwwww man sounds awful!!! Sorry for what your going through.
BIGGEST HUGS!!! XOXOXOXOXOXOOXOXOXOX
ANGE/HULA
 
Posted by HuLaGirL on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 2:39 AM
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Gay
Gay Kleven-Lundstrom

 
I am sorry Vincent <<<Hugs>>>
 
Posted by Gay on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 2:41 AM
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Miss Sally
Sally Anderson-Opfer

 
Sorry, Vincent. When we're out of toilet paper and the spouse starts in, I tell him there's kleenexes til tomorrow and quit having a cow. But I don't get near the ass-chewings you get. I feel bad for you. Keep talking to that very pretty girl. I must say, you are brave for sharing this particularly bad day with all of us strangers. Just know that we feel for you.
 
Posted by Miss Sally on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 2:42 AM
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♥Proud♥Navy♥Mom♥

 
((((((Awwwwwwww Vincent I want to give you a big ol MOM hug!!)))))) I'm glad you can get your thoughts out and release in your blog...it's got to help you some. After watching the show as much as I loved your Dad at times, there were also a lot of times I wanted to jump through the tv and tell him to shut the f**k up!!!
I'm really happy that you and Dani are keeping in touch, if anyone can understand how you're feeling it's got to be her.
I told you in another one of your blogs that you remind me a lot of my son, he's the same age as you....so I also have a soft spot in my heart for you. I know you don't know me and I only know you from here...but I do know that you're a sweet guy with a big heart...so hang in there..things happen for a reason.
~Sue~
ProudNavyMom
 
Posted by ♥Proud♥Navy♥Mom♥ on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 2:46 AM
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Darla,yep that's me!
Darla Williams

 
Sorry Vincent ............hope things work out for you and you dad. Man go to BNSF.com they are always hiring on the Railroad. They pay great money have great insurance plans. You are young enough and smart enough to start now. Good luck!
 
Posted by Darla,yep that's me! on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 2:46 AM
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Jenna

 
Vincent,
Sorry to hear about your bad day with your dad. You don't deserve it. If he is used to living alone, sometimes it is very hard for people to adjust to someone being there. I'm not trying to make excuses for him. Some people are very particular about their space, alone time and things. And when someone enters into that space, it is sometimes hard to handle. Your dad does seem very clean/neat/orderly as we saw on TV.
At any rate, perhaps you'd have a better relationship NOT living with him. He talked so much about therapy with Dani when getting out of the house. Perhaps he needs therapy for himself first and foremost and and then with both you and Dani.
Thanks for sharing even though this blog makes me feel sad for you and quite frankly, let down by your dad!!

Cheer UP !!!! I know this is easy for me to say, but try not to take it personally what he did to you. He obviously has something going on in his head that needs adjusted......

BTW, you are a GREAT writer.

Take care....
Jenna
 
Posted by Jenna on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 2:50 AM
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Acorn's new video ROCKS!

 
(((((((Vincent)))))))

Poor kid! You should have brought Pops his TP! LOL!

My husband is so much like your dad. Very very grouchy at times, and when we see that he is one of his moods we all make a clear path and let him bury himself in his cave and leave him alone until he is in a better mood. That doesn't mean that his fits are acceptable, it just means that he's human and has a few flaws. Ours is a hot head and if you give him a green light when he's HOT you better get out of his way. Our grouch is the best of the best and the worst of the worst. I know that when you get your own place things will be better for everyone. Your both adults and I'm sure you both could use some privacy. Take care kid and keep working towards getting your own place. Just always remember that family is family, warts and all. Cats and dogs always nip at their offspring when it's time to ween them off the teet, even if it hurts a bit now, it's for their own good in the long run.

XOXO Jen in AZ
 
Posted by Acorn's new video ROCKS! on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 2:53 AM
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claire

 
No one should have to put up with verbal and emotional abuse even if coming from a beloved family member. These so called Hot Heads need limits set. Surely they do not curse out potential employers or their neighbors. They feel like they can let it all hang out with their families. Just my 2 cents.
 
Posted by claire on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 3:04 AM
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Rebecca

 
Hi there! I know you don't know me... but I'm sorry to hear about your situation. I think some families work better when they aren't under the same roof all the time. It doesn't mean they're bad people, just that their personalities may require a little more space. I hope that you are able to get your apartment, and soon. And I hope that until you do, there's a little more peace in the house. Hang in there kiddo!
 
Posted by Rebecca on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 3:00 AM
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Sandy

 
Oh my god Vincent!!! I'm really sorry that You had a bad day.
I don't know what to say.
I don't want to make excuses for your dad!! But can it be, that being in the spot light all of a sudden and being bothered by people on a daily basis, no matter where you go, is starting to get to him?? I know, I couldn't handle it!!
I lived with my parents when I had my first child, because of money issues. I do love my parents dearly, but boy oh boy sometimes we had huge arguments.
My opinion is, more than two generation shouldn'l live under the same roof. It just causes friction.
Tell him how it makes you feel when he talks to you like that. Or write him a note, maybe that will help!!
Good luck and I hope you feel better tomorrow.
About the pretty girl. Are you two dating??
Lots of Hugs, Sandy
 
Posted by Sandy on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 3:04 AM
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rachel

 
Aw Vincent, I'm sorry this all happened. I think giving your dad some space will be for the best, give him time to cool off. We all know how much he loves you, and right now I just think with how hectic everything has been, he just needs to relax and let it all settle. Don't let this break your spirit!! We all love ya!
Tomorrow will be a better day. :)
 
Posted by rachel on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 3:05 AM
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Monica
Monica Brooks

 
I am really sorry to hear that you have to put up with that sh*t from someone you love. I think that is why your sister had such a problem making up with him. She always said on the show that getting close to him was difficult because he is like having an enemy at times. I think he needs to get some major counseling. He f*cking acts like a maniac to the point of insanity like he loses control and then when he comes off his high horse he wants to chat like everything is okay. Bipolar disorder is quite likely what he suffers from. Take some medication dude! He is the type of person you love to hate. Although people like the in your face personality that tells it like it is, they are also someone that is very HARD to get along with. I think that is why your dad has trouble with relationships. (love and family) I think that you seem like a really chill person and I think you will definatly be better off in your own place. I don't think your dad can live with anyone for a very long time. He gets set off too easily. I think I would stay with your grandmother or a friend until your place is ready. Take Care! Peace!! :0)
 
Posted by Monica on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 3:11 AM
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Dawn
Dawn Hern-Trosper

 
You're a kind and giving person. You had your Dads back for months. Maybe he's a little on edge because of life. Hang in there. I'm sure he loves you, I know you love him. It shows in so many ways.
Dawn
 
Posted by Dawn on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 3:26 AM
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Petite " Pete "
Petite Nichols Shultz

 
TELL THE DICK TO TAKE A CHILL PILL. HE NEEDS ANOTHER VACATION OR A HOT PEICE OF ASS TO CALM HIS NERVES.
 
Posted by Petite " Pete " on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 3:33 AM
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✰leslie

 
family counseling. you all have been through alot.
 
Posted by ✰leslie on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 4:03 AM
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✰leslie

 
btw... come to Seattle and you can stay with me. for free. until you get on your feet. do you know the music scene up here? you would love it :)
 
Posted by ✰leslie on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 4:06 AM
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♥Save a life, adopt a pet♥

 
Vincent,
I am so sorry that your dad talked to you and demeaned you like this. I am raising my son by myself and can't imagine ever talking to him like that. It sure sounds like your dad has some major problems. I have to agree with the other comments on him being bipolar. Do you think if you and Dani went to talk with him together that he would go for counseling/medication? Hang in there, you are such a sweetheart:-D (((((((((HUGS)))))))))
Keep talking to that very pretty girl.........
xxoxoxoJennxoxoxoxo
 
Posted by ♥Save a life, adopt a pet♥ on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 4:17 AM
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name goes here

 
Vincent I have a parent just like that .My Father was a drug addict my whole life and seems to have delusions of being father of the year. When I was 16 I worked a minimum wage job($4.75). I saved all the money I had for months to pay for a stereo that I wanted. I had about $300.00. One day my dad came and asked to borrow money from me for the rent. I had no problem giving him the money cause I was assured I would get it all back the next pay check. Well the next week comes and he decides that he will not give me back the money he will just tell me tough and if I don't like it get out. I of course thought this was really unfair since I already paid him $50.00 a week for rent.
But there was nothing I could do about it. I just sucked it up and waited till I was old enough to get a place of my own. He was always verbally abusive, constantly threating me with violence and calling me names. And it was really hard and confusing. Sometimes he would be so nice and loving and caring , and then he would change. He had many girlfriends but most of the time he would drive them away with his drug abuse or violence. Finally I got to understand he was just not a healthy part of my life and I had to do something about it and I moved From Maryland to Vegas. And I tell ya I feel like a whole new person. Finally free of all the stress of his life and problems.
Do what you can and what is best for you Vincent cause he probably will not change. Life is short and people, family or not sometimes have to be weeded out.
 
Posted by name goes here on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 4:28 AM
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.Tammi Mayes

 
Im so sorry you are going through this. I just dont think your dad understands what great kids he has. Both you and your sister seem like kind hearted people. I hope you and Dani can get close again and not let anyone come between you. I know what its like to have a parent degrade you then act like they did nothing wrong. I havent spoke to my mother in over a year. So I know where your coming from. Just keep your head high and remember your the better person. Best of luck to you.

Tammi
 
Posted by .......... on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 4:38 AM
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EvelDick
Evel Dick Donato

 
Thank you Vincent. Like I haven't had enough of my life played out in public.

Why don't we start at the beginning and let everyone know what really happened???

I told Vincent he could stay in my apt. while I was in the house, but that I didn't want him to have friends over. I come out of the house to find that he had moved into my apt. Not only him, but one of his friends as well. When I got here, the place was a fucking disaster. The bathroom was so disgusting I couldn't take it. There was puke dripping down the sides and piss all around the toilet and the walls by the toilet, and the seat was broken. The shower had shit stuck all on the inside of the tub. His shit was all over the place, to where just walking through the house was like an obsticle course. He filled my garage with his stuff surrounding my car and there were scratches in a few places on it. There was shit under it and filled to the rim to the point that it was impossible for me to even get into it. So, yeah.... I was thrilled.

It took him well over a week of me asking him to clean the shit up, to the point that I got pissed and yelled at him about it, then..... finally, he cleaned it. He has not once cleaned up after himself without me having to ask him at least 5-6 times. He has not lifted a finger to do shit around here, at all.
Vincent has supposed to have been looking for a place to live since moving in here..... Now, almost 2 months later, it took me telling him to get a place NOW!

Any time I leave, I come home to an apt. full of his friends, after I have asked him repeatedly not to have friends over. I live in a small apt. which was intended for me to live in by myself. It is too fucking small to have 7 people hanging in. When I left on vacation, I come home to an apt full of his friends....again. He doesn't give a shit about what I ask even though this is my place and he is staying here. The trash is full of empty bottles of alcohol and X pills on my coffee table. My carpet is so stained up, that I will have to have the place recarpeted before I leave. The toilet paper holder is broken as well. Why should I have to pay a thousand dollars for carpet, when he is the one that fucked it up beyond cleaning? Am I the fucking maid for him and his friends in MY OWN APT?

Giving Vincent Daniele's old car.... The car is worth between 10-12K. I told him I would pay for any repairs needed, new tires, fix the dents and a new paint job. He complained about getting it from the get go. He wanted a stick, he didn't like it, etc... He wanted me to fix it up, sell it and then buy him another car. I told him to fix it himself and sell it if he wanted, I was not doing all that shit. Then he was constantly complaining that I wasn't buying Daniele the car fast enough for him, that he would just buy another car... to pressure me to do it faster. Keep in mind, this is a person who hasn't had a license in over a year... but now it is a time issue for him.

Since working at the DMV, my mother has driven him to and from work every day. She gets up in the morning and drives about 45 min to and from, to get him there... then again to take him home. He has never once offered her money for gas. I told him he should take the bus, the bus stop is right in front of my apt and would take 10 min with another 10 min walk for him, but he is above that and would rather have my mother taxi him everyday.
Vincent has not paid rent since moving in here, nor has he paid for any food or bills here, I never asked him, he never offered. He knows I am busy and I could use a bit of help doing a few things around here, but never offered. He would rather sit on the computer constantly with breaks of playing guitar hero for 5 hours a stretch. Never mind that I don't want to watch him play a fucking video game day and night.
Vincent was offered a job at a University in Texas with free schooling. He says he wants to go back to school, but was thinking about it for over a month until the job was filled by someone else.
Vincent has never gone out and actually gotten a job. Every job he has had has been set up by someone he knows, he will not go out and fill out an application.
He is unmotivated, lazy, undependable and does take advantage of the situations he is in. He wears out his welcome and has been tossed out of every place he has lived.

There is a shitload more, but too much to go into here.

Yesterday, we were arguing because after a long vacation I come home to a mess and a houseload of his friends...... again. I tell him that is taking advantage of me and the situation, how he never shows any appreciation for the things I do and am doing for him and lay it all out. I ask what is up with getting his own place. He says he will know today. One of the things I told him before I left was that I didn't want to come home to a place that had nothing here and was a mess and specifically said that the toilet paper was low, check paper towels etc.... I come home, there is no fucking toilet paper. When he left (since my car is still in the shop) I call and ask him to get some, he says sure.
This morning I get up to get ready for the LA Ink deal... I need to take a shit and have to wipe my ass with fucking paper towels, I am pissed! I ask him about the apt he was supposed to be approved for, so he could move out as soon as yesterday. He tells me he got there too late and the office was closed. He had 2 things to do yesterday, toilet paper and find out if he got the apt. He did neither.... but I am sure he was partying with his friends.

So, while he whines and cries about how mean I am. I have given him a place to live for 2 months rent free. Given him a car worth over 10K, plus told him I would fix it like new for him. I have fed him with food in the house as well as took him out at least 3-4 times a week for lunch or dinner.

This morning he tells me he is doing me a favor by letting me use his car to go to LA for the tattoo gig. I had enough..... And yes, it makes me feel like not even giving him that fucking car. He doesn't appreciate shit. And I am sure he never said anything about the first car I also gave him. So, this is the second car from me. Yes, I am so mean.

So, there is always 2 sides to every story. And I might have gotten pissed and been an asshole, but he pushes shit to the limit all the time until people hit their breaking point.

I love my son and do and have done a ton of shit to help him out. But he is a 22 year old man and needs to be responsible and take care of his own life and stop having everyone else hold his hand and walk him through life. He constantly complains about how shitty his life is. But lives on the computer, video games, and
partys constantly. He is the only one that can change his life, and he will not do anything to make it change. He just sits and complains.

And now looks for sympathy from everyone because I am mean. I think he has a lot of nerve posting this bullshit.
 
Posted by EvelDick on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 4:50 AM
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deb

 
Hate to take sides-but your dad is right. Time to grow up!
 
Posted by deb on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 3:57 PM
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Ken
Ken Stocks

 
Dear Dick and Vincent,

I am Ken or Sportswriter on ED's chatroom and I have had the chance to chat to you both and of course read blogs and seen Dick on BB. What I say may offend you both but I hope you take the comments as from my heart.

First Dick, I enjoyed watching you this season. I have a terminal illness and I spend alot of time in the hospital but you always made me laugh even in the hospital bed. I felt a connection to you because of our mutual love of music and connection to clubs and bands over the last 20 years.. I imagine we would have fought and been friends because that is how things go in life.

Dick, you are under alot of pressure and you are realizing that money doesn't solve any of your problems, in fact it adds to them in many ways. But we are close to the same age and as far as I know you are in good health but look at me.. Dying at 49.. Things could be worse.

As I face my future I have no children (I know of.. I was sleeping with as many women as Wilt Chamberlain in the 80's lol..) I would give anything to have a beautiful daughter and loving son like Vincent! I am so jealous..

I don't know your younger life, but chances are alot of the things you say to Vincent were said to or about you when you were 22. I know my Dad said that stuff to me.. AND HE WAS RIGHT.. AS YOU ARE.. (Sorry Vincent) But we both grew up and so will Vincent.

Maybe Vincent could get into computers and internet business and take advantage of his interests. Ask Reanna.. there is alot of money on the net.. although I dont think Vincent will make it modeling nude.. LOL.. (Sorry Vincent)

With limited knowledge of you both.. all I know is there is deep love between you! You talked proudly and lovingly of Vincent during the show and Vincent defended and loved you through hard times. In the end.. When all the money and fame are gone you will still have each other.

Vincent, I don't blame you.. I think you are just being a kid and going through the struggle to become a man. I (and ED) went through the same thing at your age. I threw parties and trashed my dads house.. trashed two cars.. and countless other things.

Remember your Dad loves you and is under alot of pressure. And even though you may not like his methods he has your best interests at heart. He wants to see you grow and be a success on your own. AND YOU WILL BE A MAN OF SUCCESS SOMEDAY.

Meet Dick halfway.. Do something to show you are listening and appreciate him. Hire a maid to clean the house, rent a machine and clean the carpets and get your friends to help you clean the garage. Surprise him.. and see the difference it makes.

Life is crazy.. Imagine if one of you died tommorow.. What would your life be like? How important would these things be?

I told you in the chat Vincent that I wish I had a son like you. And I can assure you your dad is proud and loves you and just wants to see you be a man.

My Dad and I fought like cats and dogs and it took years for us to repair that damage. In the end he was mostly right and as he told me life goes through stages.. When you are a child your Dad is the smartest guy on earth.. Then as you grow older you think him stupid and finally you grow up and realize he really was smart all along..

Good Luck to you both...

Later, Ken
 
Posted by Ken on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 3:48 PM
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parcyd4
Marcy Devore

 
Ken, I agree with you. Since you and ED are music buffs, you probably remember the Eric Clapton song about - its too late, when we die, to admit we don't see eye to eye. I'm pretty sure it was Eric Clapton..... it's unfortunate that sometimes people have to experience something as extreme as what you're going through to get things in perspective.
My dad is a lot like Dick, it was tough sometimes, you're right when you mention the methods being frustrating. I was more submissive than Vincent, I rarely fought back with my dad. I always knew he loved me, but you're right again - as I got older, I understood the motivation behind his actions. Thank God it didn't take an extreme illness for me to realize that he really did have good intentions, he just had some bad role models.
I was an ED fan from day one. I didn't always agree with his extreme reactions, but the only time I saw anything really extreme was when someone attacked his kid(s). (other than jen/cig time. lol) If someone was sh_tty to ED, he let it go, but if they came up against his kids - he lost it. That wasn't phony, it wasn't for show. Those were emotional gut reactions to defend his kids, Danielle primarily. I hate to say it, but he defended her at times when i really didn't think she deserved it, but love is blind and he obviously loves her. I read Vincents blog and knew that there was more to the story. He was trying to beat ED to the punch, he had already contacted Danielle. I'm sure that Vincent might be a little envious of Danielle, she's being rewarded after cutting off their dad and Vincent stood by him. He may think he deserves better treatment than her. These problems they're having are temporary. It may not change until Vincent has his own kids, but eventually it will change. I feel bad for the whole family, they may have won BB8, but there are things about their lives that were put out for public viewing with only one side being represented. You and I know how one person's opinion about ED was turned into fact just because it was on the internet.
Anyway, this got kinda rambly, but my initial intent here was to thank you for taking the time and energy to write your note. It's something that a lot of people need to hear. You put a lot of thought into what you said, you weren't biased or opinionated or mean, and that is worth so much. You would be a great mediator, perhaps you could help us out with the Iraq situation..... lol. I know you said you don't have any kids you know of, but I'm certain that with your spirit and attitude, you've influenced the lives of many in ways you will never know.
take care, I'll be praying for your comfort and peace. I am a Christian, not a fanatic at all - kind of a backslider right now (don't tell on me), but I do believe in miracles and I'll be praying for one for you.
Marcy
I'd like to add you to my friends list if thats okay. It will come from parcyd4.
 
Posted by parcyd4 on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 5:19 PM
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Ð

 
YOU ABANDONED YOUR KIDS WHEN THEY WERE YOUNG & INNOCENT, AND NOW YOU BITCH ABOUT THEIR BEHAVIOR?

GIMME A FUCKING BREAK!!!

THE ONLY ONE TO BLAME HERE (FOR ALL THE SHIT IN YOUR LIFE) IS YOU!

SO, GROW UP AND DEAL WITH IT..... IN AN ADULT MANNER.
 
Posted by Ð on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 1:52 PM
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EXPOSE

 
Dann,
Deal with it in an adult manner? Dick isn't the one who posted this shit all over the web his son did! You're so much of an adult aren't you?? WOuld you call posting nasty pictures of people on your myspace being an adult? Or how about making fake web pages and myspaces? You give great advice. You hypocrite! Why are you hiding your pictures? Afraid of payback? I bet you get a hard on Dann reading all this shit.. after all you stalk Dick and Daniele correct? FUcking freak!
 
Posted by EXPOSE on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 2:02 PM
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Ð

 
Ha! You wish you could see my pics bitch! .. shooo shaad :(

I won't look at your profile cause I don't care enough.

byes
 
Posted by Ð on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 3:48 PM
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Barry the alpaca

 
Are you an adult or a teenager, Dick? You're such a loser.

You can only be angry. That is why you never went more than a few days without attacking someone in the house. That is why you talk about how you love to be hated, because it gives you an excuse to be angry, hateful and cruel to the people who you think hate you.

You are an angry, fucked up man who is so uncomfortable in his own skin and his own life, that you prefer to live a perpetual state of anger directed at someone else instead of do a little self-reflection. That's also why you are always a victim and blame everyone else for whatever happens. You don't know what self-awareness and accountability are. You only know anger and indignation. And it seems that you are afraid of self-reflection and self-awareness because you know you don't have much going for you, so putting others down constantly makes you feel better about yourself.

You needs therapy, not minions (or "fans") kissing his ass and reinforcing your bizarre behavior, such as what you displayed in the house.

I have not seen Dick accept, admit or apologize for any of his behavior. And I'm not talking about being rude or swearing or spitting, I'm talking about abusing people and treating human beings like garbage, often unprovoked. The night he dumped tea on Jen's head and sexually harassed her all night, for example, he went around professing how he was the victim of Jen's behavior. It was so bizarre. And Jen is only an example. Whether you like Jen or not isn't the point. The point is Dick routinely behaves this way and thinks it's acceptable because it's always someone else's fault, never his.

This man has serious, serious issues... issues that Grodner exploited and presented to us as entertainment rather than a problem with consequences. The false editing and blatant favoritism on BB8 was very irresponsible, IMO.

However, I don't really feel bad for Vincent because he lauded his father's despicable behavior over on Sucks, making the tea-dumping incident his avatar at one point. Even though I don't feel bad for Vincent, I still think he has a point in that his father behaves disgustingly, hatefully and cruelly and it's not OK. I just think it's really lame that it took an argument over Vincent getting a car for him to say something.

I think Vincent is doing this because it is self-serving and he doesn't like when his father treats him like crap, but he finds it acceptable when his father treats others like crap. That's a problem. The whole Donato clan are classless selfish losers, quite frankly. Hopefully Daniele and Vincent are young enough that they can get past the horrible behaviors and attitudes they learned from Dick, but Daniele was pretty awful in the house. I haven't seen Vincent except for his online presence. Good luck, I guess.
 
Posted by Barry the alpaca on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 6:05 AM
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Friend of a Hero(DS)

 
That's right: You haven't seen Vincent except for his online presence. (I'll get to Vincent in a minute.)

For that matter you haven't seen Dick and Danielle either except in a summer long skit. You've seen how Dick and Danielle act in a situation where they are put in a house with random strangers and have to compete with each other. They were playing a game and when you're playing a game you're playing to win. So what did they do? They acted selfish...what happened? They won, they aren't losers. As for being classless; well I don't see them flaming a total stranger on their parent's/sibling's myspace.

Vincent is my best friend: Something so ignorant as to say, "he's selfish." You can go to hell you fucking jerk. Anyone who's spent one day with him knows that if he's anything; it's incredibly generous. Not just with something so trivial as money, but sharing his views and his opinions and his suggestions on the best things you can do to bring happiness to others and yourself. It truly is a beautiful thing. Classlessness: What an interesting comment. Why would you attack their class? It's so stupid to attack something so easily lost. All you have to do is yawn without covering your mouth and you are officially classless. Guess what? Everyone is classless now and again, it's like you're attacking people who go to the bathroom. Salvage your class and shut up. A loser? A LOSER!? You're basically calling anyone that's ever competed with his man a loser and even if you are speaking metaphorically then all I have to say to that is, "who are you?"

I told myself before I started reading these comments that I wouldn't reply to them, but I really didn't expect I would read something so ignorant. How dare you insult someone so shamefully when you have no idea of the people you speak? If you're going to make a comment about this situation that's fine, announce your worthless idiotic opinion, but do NOT mock my friend and his family. You have no right and all you do by attacking them is make yourself look like an asshole. Before you retort why not try thinking about what you said and how you would feel if some stupid would-be fan that you've never met before insulted you multiple times because of something that was none of their business anyway.

Self-realization shouldn't be beyond your simple mind's capabilities right?
 
Posted by Friend of a Hero(DS) on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 1:20 AM
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Barry the alpaca

 
Um, OK dipshit.

A) You are Vincent's friend. Not the most unbiased party.
B) You make no sense. Clear writing is clear thinking... and you apparently can't do either clearly. According to you, I'm classless for saying someone doesn't have class... but you're calling me classless so... huh?
C) I don't think you understand what "class" is. I'm not talking about social classes, as in rich or poor. I'm talking about carrying yourself with values and standards of behavior... things the Donatos seem to lack.
D) I'm not talking about being selfish in the game of Big Brother, selfishness was the whole point of the game. I'm talking about Daniele cheating on her boyfriend and calling out on the live feeds that she'd like someone, a stranger, to buy her a car and asking random people to buy her purses in her livejournal. Selfish.
E) Big Brother is not a summer long skit. It is a contrived, controlled environment where people are themselves. People are not going to be something they aren't capable of being. Why did Dick proclaim how he wanted to rape Jen until she bleeds to death? Why did Dick try to burn her with a lit cigarette? Why did Dick call Dustin homophobic names? Did those things help him win the game? Did the game force him to say those things? No. That's just who Dick is. A disgusting, pathetic creep.
F) If your friend and his dysfunctional family don't want commentary from people like me, maybe they should sort out their problems like civilized people and have a private conversation about it. And the first least, they could not allow public comments. Maybe instead of whining to me because I commented, maybe you should whine to your buddy for airing his dirty laundry on the internet in the first place?

Simple logic shouldn't be beyond your simple mind's capabilities, right?
 
Posted by Barry the alpaca on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 2:47 AM
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Friend of a Hero(DS)

 
Great we get to play the list of letters game:

A)Me telling you my connection was to inform you that I know them a hell of a lot better than you do. Not because I'm taking sides. You don't seem to understand that the whole point of my comment to you was because You were writing ignorant views about people you know nothing about. I do believe I encouraged you to spout your nominal bullshit about the situation itself to your heart's content.
B)Saying someone isn't making sense is just an easy strike as saying they're classless. All I have to do is ask, "hey what's one plus one?" and regardless of what you say; I can say, "You're making no sense." Just because you don't understand my clear writing doesn't mean it doesn't make sense. I do believe that I said me replying to you in the first place is a form of classlessness. Which it is. I knew that when I said that, what's not making sense to you?
C)I know what class and I've already given you several examples of Vincent's class by talking about his generosity, which shows value. Now you change your writing: Here you say "values and standards...which the Donatos SEEM to lack." There was no "seem" last time you just assumed that by saying they were classless. Which is ignorant and another point of my previous comment.
D)See? you've got this completely backwards. All the things you're saying about Danielle make her seem more classless than selfish, well at least the boyfriend thing. Back to D: Are you telling me that you've never wanted anyone to buy you something for nothing? You've lived your entire life not wanting something for nothing? That's not being selfish, being selfish is having something and not sharing. If that stranger wants to buy her a car or random people want to get her those purses, what's selfish about her wanting that? When that guy at the mall asks her for a dollar donation for the st. Jude foundation and she refuses, then she's selfish.
E)Wrong
F)Are you reading what you're writing? This has nothing to do with if Vincent wants people to post commentary. This has to do with some idiot insulting my friend and his family when that idiot obviously is misinformed because what's he's writing isn't correct. What's worse is that idiot won't do what idiots are supposed to do when they say something idiotic. Vincent can post anything he wants and you know what? I encourage him too. I know that's how he vents and if it helps him I'm going to let him do it, regardless of what the world thinks. What he doesn't do, as you might have noticed: He never once talked shit on anyone he didn't know. He never called anyone stupid or classless, or a loser. Nothing negative, unless they did something to show him that they indeed were stupid, classless, etc.
G)Didn't I tell you to think before you retorted. I was hoping that maybe you would understand where I was coming from and try explaining yourself in a non-defensive way, but instead you decided to be an idiot again. -Second simple minded joke-
H)Self-Realization. Have you tried that yet? C'mon give it a shot I'd bet you like it.
I)No I'm serious, put yourself in their position.
J)I am really sick and tired of that dirty laundry phrase. Why don't you just say, increasing emotional stress?
K)There you go again assuming, call Vincent and his family dysfunctional. Vincent's dad yelled at him so Vincent vented. Wow, that's pretty fucking dysfunctional huh? I know that when my dad yells at me, to make sure I keep the dysfunction to a minimum I hold it deep inside run into the kitchen bake him a pie get his favorite slippers and tell him he's doing a bang up job of raising me.
L) Gawddamnit! Your assumptions piss me off. You have never even met Dick, why are you going off and call him a disgusting pathetic creep? Because of what you saw on TV? Just because it says, "reality" in the genre, that doesn't make it reality. Reality is what isn't scripted or planned.
M)Not that I would want to get into Danielle's personal business, but I do believe there were things going on before Big brother aired with her and her boyfriend. Oh you know! That time you didn't know who she was.
N)I was going to let this go before, but I'm a literal guy and I thought since you said it twice I'm going to hit you hard here. There are more than just Vincent, Danielle, and Dick in the Donato family. A crack at them is also a crack at their nice and incredibly sweet grandmother. Why don't you show a little respect. The hurt that would hit her if she had to view your dimwitted crap.
O)Did that self-realization hit you when you thought about someone insulting your mother or grandmother?
P)If you haven't figured it out yet, I really really hate when people use lists of letters. It's like that can't organize their thought correctly so they have to put up bullets to let everyone know "this is what I'm pissed about" so I make it a point that if I ever respond to these I go all the way to Z. That way letter-wise you can't go any further.
 
Posted by Friend of a Hero(DS) on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 4:53 AM
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Friend of a Hero(DS)

 
Q)People aren't going to be something they aren't capable of being. This is so stupid everyone is capable of anything as far as personality wise. Anyone can be nice as can or evil as fuck. And if I understand correctly he was defending his children when he said those things to Jen. Which I wouldn't say personally, but back him up 100% for saying. Attacking someone's children is one of the worst things you can do.
R)Clear writing is clear thinking? What the hell were you thinking when you wrote that? Was what I wrote before so confusing that you couldn't comprehend it?
S)Please! Please! Elaborate on simple logic for me. When I think of logic I think something like, if something is blown over, it will fall. You know, in that area. That seems pretty simple to me. How would explain simple logic.
T)How hilarious that if you're slanderous to someone, it's being a jerk. However if you're slanderous to a gay man it's bigotry? Even your sexual views are ignorant.
U)I would never whine to my buddy. He's a great and intellectual guy and he did nothing wrong. Telling me to whine to him because you wrote something ignorant is like trying to sue McDonalds for making your kids fat.
V)I have no idea why you would think I'd make a mistake of class for social class. -insert simple mind joke here- How would someone really make such a simple mistake? Rich or Poor? I admit I was laughing pretty hard when I read that.
W)Still haven't hit that self-realization yet? Here, try having a fight with a family member and posting it up on Myspace, we'll all come to your page and call you and your family a dysfunctional selfish group of classless losers. If that doesn't get the point across your simple mind is beyond self-realization
X)My question to you is: Why are you still heated about this? You don't know me. You don't know anything about me, except a sense of loyalty to defend my friends. However I have plenty to be heated at you about. What would make you say what you what you did anyway seriously? What kind of hurtful disrespectful prick do you have to be to talk shit on people you don't know, then have the audacity to get mad at the people who defend them? Why don't you get a hobby, go fishing, try camping. Hey I got an idea. Make a fucking friend. Make a friend that you can be cool with and defend when some ignorant douchebag gives them shit. Then you and that friend can go fishing or camping or even go out on the prowl for the ladies. You know of course if you're not married. Which I couldn't imagine by the way because if you treat total strangers like you treat my friends and their family I don't see why anyone would ever want to socialize with you. I'm getting nauseous just thinking about you.
Y)Are you crying yet? Do you feel bad? Do you understand where I'm coming from? Has it all sunk in? Are you going to come back at me with vain insults and stupid jabs, or are you going to apologize for insulting my friend? Tell me jerk, what are you going to do?
Z)Wow look at a that 26 whole bullets about what you did that pissed me off. Seems kind of pointless huh? I hope this simple mind was able to enlighten you a little bit. Does that make simple logic to you?
 
Posted by Friend of a Hero(DS) on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 4:54 AM
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Barry the alpaca

 
Wow. You are so mistaken if you think I'm reading any of that 82 pages of whining. Honestly, I really don't care. "You win." There. Bye, idiot.
 
Posted by Barry the alpaca on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 7:29 AM
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Patty

 
LMAO!
 
Posted by Patty on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 4:34 PM
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Ð

 
WHO KNEW ALPACAS WERE SO SMART?

BRAVO!! :)
 
Posted by Ð on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 1:47 PM
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Friend of a Hero(DS)

 
pointing out your ignorance would take all day, with a group of 15 writers. Why not show a little more tact and trying not typing in all capitals. Are you just here to be annoying?
 
Posted by Friend of a Hero(DS) on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 1:23 AM
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EXPOSE

 
First of all you sound like a bitter ungrateful little fuck. I'm sorry. You and your father get in an arguement and you post it all over the net for attention? How scummy of you. I'd never do that to my father.

And to this Dann Coulter guy or thing (whatever it is, homosexual something he man or whatever) This Dann Coulter person is the same one who sat home on his ass for countless hours making fake web pages about Daniele and Dick. Talk about a life.
He's stuck so far up Jenn's stink hole he can't get out. He's just upset that Jenn got yelled at on T.V. BOOO WHOO you fucking sore nobody. You need a fucking hobby instead of making fake myspace pages and being the homo that you are.. maybe you should go get a job, some social skill and a life. Stop living your poor pathetic life threw others. LOSER!!
 
Posted by EXPOSE on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 1:57 PM
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Barry the alpaca

 
Keep drinking that Kool-Aid, psycho. All I've seen Dick do since the show end is contradict himself (says his horrible behavior is strategy but then keeps doing it now that the show has ended) or blame other people for his actions (calling Jess out, making fun of Zach and Jen, saying they all deserved everything he did). And the night he dumped the tea on Jen's head: the argument between Dick and Jen where Daniele was mentioned only started because Dick was following Jen around all day threatening to send her to the hospital and making sexually disparaging comments about her -- all because Jameka chose to use the power of veto on her own accord.

You obviously don't understand the point which is that no matter what Jen did, or Vincent did, or anyone else did, calling people hateful, disgusting names, threatening them and treating them as if they aren't human is simply not acceptable, no matter how much you don't like them. Yet, it seems to be routine behavior for Mr. Dick. And he'll never realize he is the problem because he will keep blaming everyone else for his own behavior.

So I don't know what BB8 you were watching, but maybe you were busy at the KFC drive-thru during the times Dick gleefully fantasized aloud about raping Jen until she bleeds to death, called his own daughter a bitch, or told Jameka that she is a bitch "because of that thing between her legs." As a woman, your defense of Dick is embarrassing. Go eat something.
 
Posted by Barry the alpaca on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 7:47 AM
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Barry the alpaca

 
...With that last sentence, it's no wonder you are a Dick fan. I pity you.
 
Posted by Barry the alpaca on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 4:39 AM
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Friend of a Hero(DS)

 
Ouuu a KFC fat joke!

Barry just oozes class doesn't he?

See? Class is easy to strike.
 
Posted by Friend of a Hero(DS) on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 1:27 AM
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