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When I heard about the shooting, one of the first things I thought about was Gonzales' testimony tomorrow.  I am not in the 9/11 "truth" camp, and I don't think there was a conspiracy here.  But it is something to consider.

 

Yup:

The Senate Judiciary Committee has postponed Alberto Gonzales' hearing until Thursday due to the Virginia Tech shootings.

 

Uhhh Ruhh Rob,,

What time will you be postin the Lot-trey Numbas My Brotha..? 

I'm just bein a smart ass to lend a little levity to a heavy situation.

but I'm still wondering how the hell one man could do it in this manner.

did he walk between buildings with that much hardware and ammo ?

damn I sure doubt it.. but where did he hide the get around vehicle ?

and why did he do it ?

shocking most of all was that he was Asian American.

"Damnnn.."  that's all I could say at 945 this mornin..

looks like Alberto gets anotha week to keep the rug down, Oh Well.


 

33 deaths? 32 victims plus 1 shooter = 33.

Magic Numbers. 11, 23, 32, 33.

4/16. 4+1+6=11.


Watch this about 30 minutes in, about the numbers 23, 33, 32.

 

Hah I got the 33 now.
 

Gonzales testimony i havent heard of that i dont watch t.v. if ya send me a message telling me what it is ill leave another comment.

but todays killing at virginia colldge is yet another problem the u.s. government should see as a problem with our citizens. and why did he do it. its a scarey thought that schools are not safe any more

 

Gonzales is Attorney General under Bush who has been plagued with scandals.

The Democratic Congress is ready to call him to testify about firing US attorneys that were investigating Republican corruption, bribery, hooker and child abuse scandals. Just about to get major tv coverage all week. But that's not going to happen this week. Gonzales who? 
 

Coincidental, maybe, somewhere, somebody knows something, and in the end, whitewash again. Is this crazy, hell no, although this could be a random incident, maybe there was damage control to limit the stories which i'm sure we'll here to. But I find in most of these cases, its just a lone wolf psychopath, who has no idea what revolution is all about. Interesting though, bears watching. As for Gonzales, well, we all know that the government is full of corruption, he just happened to be the one that got caght.
 

I love watching the rats flee, especially to see what they reveal on the way out....
 

this act was a gun grabber's wet dream come true.  
 

Well look it from a different perspective, will the Liberals and gun control nuts consider the fact that although Virginia is a conceal carry state, people are prohibited from packing heat on the VT Campus? No, they will just harp on the fact the conceal and carry didn't stop the criminal and that is all the more reason for stricter gun control. Even constitutionally, don't you think this event will have a dramatic effect on the Supreme Court on when the D.C. Court decision overturning the gun ban is placed before the court, especially with uber utilitarian Kennedy as the "swing" vote? even if there is no conspiracy, a strong possibility, the gun control nuts got their Horst Wessel today.
 

Agreed. If one responsible gun owner had a gun, 33 people wouldn't be dead right now.

And this being so close to DC it will get lots of coverage from the Congress and media. It's picture perfect for them. You couldn't set it up any better. And to boot it happened on a Monday  which will give it a full week of work chatter, primetime coverage and on a campus that outlawed guns so they were all sitting ducks and maximum carnage. Picture Perfect, the gunman must have wanted to help the cause. 
 

I felt something was gonna happen today, when my fire alarm went off for no reason at 2am : /

..yea, definatly some crazy shit happening..

~*~Sugar Coma~*~

 

I think they are trying to take your gun away so you would only be able to use bow and arrow and sling shot in the revolution. LOL BTW, what's "33"? I'm not so into those illuminati so educate me, please.


 

Check out the video I posted previously on this thread. Skip ahead to about the 30th minute and listen for the 33 connection. 
 

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...(from what I've heard) They had three bomb threats within a week before, they had just passed a rule where you couldn't bring a concealed weapon to school, and for those of you who think that's strange to begin with (carrying guns,) there are a lot of people who always have a gun on them and there's nothing weird or illegal about it. (depending on the state laws of course)(and in VA it's completely legal by the way)
...The argument here is if the students were allowed to have guns on them (as was the policy until recently) they could have defended themselves.

...It took well over two hours before anyone outside the school was really informed, and then they made the students stay in the classrooms while the gunman runs around. geez..

...Anyway, the point being raised besides the obvious tragedy here is that this is an opportunity for dramatic gun laws, which I think is the last thing we should do. I'm concerned that media spin enhancing peoples legitimate concerns without them fully understanding the reasons having the right to bear arms is so important, and public complacency as well, could bring strict gun laws about.

...I know how I sound to some of you guys I guess, but if you ever find yourself in need of something extremely interesting, learn more about your rights as an American, how your government and local government works, and economics gets really interesting when you find out what fractional reserve banking is and our founding fathers thoughts on it. (Ron Paul is running for prez in 08, and he wants to start a parallel currency backed by the gold/silver standard by the way.... and legalize industrial hemp)

...On Alex Jones' website, he is speculating that the shooting could have been an event set up by people who want anti-gun laws in effect and possibly planned this event to cause public opinion to sway towards stronger restrictions. Speculating is the key word here, and I see nothing wrong with him taking the possibility into consideration.

...I don't know and I'm not going to pretend I do, I haven't watched the news other than online since I got home a bit ago, I don't own a TV... (it's great) but I don't think anyone really knows the whole thing or how to prevent it from happening again. I just don't think more gun control is the answer. (maybe if people hug their kids more?)

...Generally, I do understand that the kind of safety they're trying to trick us into wanting isn't safety to us, it's safety to them, from us. Beware how your opinion is formed is all I'm saying.

...Well, I won't bore anyone with any more text, it's almost impossible to hold the culturally laminated minds attention even this long without pictures or streaming video, so feel good about that if you read this far I guess... take it easy


...I'm about to watch the 33 video, I've heard some crazy stuff with numbers in perspective to the Illuminati theology (if you'd call it that I guess) dealing with 3.33 (triangle) and pi, stuff about the compass rose and symbolism of certain numbers... anyway, about to check it out.



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I feel really bad for the kids, the teachers, and their families. Horrible, horrible day.

I emailed Ron Paul's campaign to invite him to speak at the Mass Cann/NORML Boston Freedom Rally, Sept. 15th on Boston Common.

Here's hoping he stops by and gives a speech, lots of votes for him at the Boston Rally.
 

After reading the comment above me, I felt compelled to say something.

I'm not too wild about gun ownership, but I do have a problem with trying to ban them.

Because if you do that, then only the criminals and the cops have guns. Not a good scenario.

I've been told that there aren't as many robberies in the South as in the North, because Southerners are more likely to have a gun.

Beat out the two mass killings I was trying to remember numbers on: the 1966 University of Texas at Austin shooting (Charles Whitman, brain tumor plus M-16) and the Killeen, Texas, Luby's shooting (George Hennard, a bag of guns — he was angry because he thought all women in the area were refusing to date him).

One photo that truly bothered me was from the Killeen killing: Hennard ran out of bullets for a gun, so he just set it down on somebody's food tray. The juxtaposition was chilling. I was at UT, and we heard about it on our AP hotline, and saw the footage on TV simultaneously. We had to calm one of the women in the room, because her mother lives in Killeen and had just told her daughter that she was meeting her friends for lunch at that Luby's. (Mother was fine; she and her friends got there after the fact).

C, who doubts it's a conspiracy. I'm more willing to believe the Lone Nutjob theory.
 

They need to do psychological profiles on people who own guns....sad, but true. Im all for the right to bear arms but I would rather them be in the hands of people who are sane.
 

article on MSNBC didn't give shooter a name other than "asian male in his 20s" and could not be I.D.'d through fingerprints...hopefully the fog around this clears up more soon.

Just goes to show you your Monday could be worse.

The sheer number of dead astonishes me.  The columbine kids killed 1/3 the number this guy did and there was two of them..this guy had a .22 and 9mm pistol?  That's quite a few clips to reload and have people NOT all run due to gunshots (which are pretty fucking loud).  Not to mention the number of people wounded...adding that up at less than 100% accuracy and probably 2+ average shots per victim... that is a ton of shots fired.

I didn't think of conspiracy until you said something about it, but it is a possibility.  If our gov't can fix elections as easy as ol Dubya did, whose to say they couldn't do the same thing with the popularity of a president?(in this case taking america's view off what a shit job he is doing).

 

Black Krishna Brand Blog with Alex Jones Radio Show Covering Virginia Tech
 

Yup-yup, very strange all around, and I can see them getting concerned with a spike in gun-ownership due to the mass awakenings thanks to the various truth movements.  This will be used to stir up the gun-control debate as a handful of articles are "predicting" as opposed to "inciting", and these numerology freaks will make sense of their sociopathic nonsense.  I recommened PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com for their analysis of the early mass media clues, I made a couple of vids on it too - Peace, BK 
 

OK Guys, here's the deal. I totally get your point about this new Massacre being a media distraction, but also if it is a distraction, it's cos the NWO are taking the attention off their fucking Illegal war born out of 9/11, with a multiple shooting which anyone seems to be able to do in America seeing as Guns are Legal! Sorry to put you down but WTF is positive about such a violent system? You guys need a fucking Revolution... 9/11 was an inside job... And yes Tony Blair is an NWO puppet too.
 

government ops.
more propaganda. it won't end till we get these scumbags out of office.

 

hey there, here's a copy of my little blog cut and pasted instead of rehashing...

up to 33 killed in Virginia...home of the CIA...
i guarantee you it's a gun control agenda psyops...
"The first attack started as students were getting ready
for classes or were on their way there. The university
did not evacuate the campus or notify students of
that attack until several hours later."

hmmm...i wonder why that was????? never mind the
fact that the Columbine Anniversary is only days away...
April 20th to be exact...

and then there's this:
http://...com/ysqumy
""These are sick people," Bloomberg said in January
at the Mayors Against Illegal Guns summit in Washington.
"And if they think that this is funny, I don't think that
the parents or the spouses or the children of those
that get killed with illegal guns would find that very
entertaining.""

he's right! what i find entertaining is watching politicos
like him use agendas of mass distraction to keep people
living in fear..eg: a couple of wars based on lies which are killing
innocent people on a daily basis...but never mind that,
keep fighting the good fight...

here's a good article...
Gun Control and the Plot for a Fascist Police State in America
by David Hammer

On January 17, 1989, Patrick Purdy, a 25-year-old with a
seven-year law enforcement history of weapons
violations, drug abuse, and sexual crimes, entered a school yard in Stockton,
California carrying an AK-47 semi-automatic rifle. Within minutes, he had
slaughtered five children and wounded twenty-nine more. Within days, the term
``assault rifle'' had entered the lexicon of all major U.S. news media. Within
weeks, the most intense push for gun control since the 1968 Gun Control Act
was passed in the wake of the assassinations of Robert Kennedy and Martin
Luther King, was underway.
By this spring, California had passed the most sweeping gun control law
ever seen in the United States, banning outright some forty types of ``assault
rifles.'' In 22 other states, similar legislation was enacted or proposed. At
the federal level, lifetime National Rifle Association member George Bush
enacted a ban on the importation of forty-three types of semi-automatic
rifles. By mid-summer, Bush's Justice Department had released a set of
draconian ``options'' for gun control, including such heretofore unthinkable
measures as universal indentification cards with fingerprints and other data
electronically imprinted. This card was to be {for everyone}, not just those
owning guns. Also proposed was a national registration of all gun-owners and
their guns.
http://www.holysmoke.org/wb/wb0135.htm

hey, did i hear bush's name mentioned...wasn't he head
of some sort of government thingy...oh that's right - the CIA...

Dark Alliance anyone?
http://www.hackcanada.com/blackcrawl/patriot.html
http://www.the7thfire.com/bush15.htm


 

Yeah, its gotta be Bush's fault! Maybe you all should smoke another? It was some loser that broke up with his girlfriend or something pathetic like that. Reports say he was chinese and its odd there was a photo on the tv where the cops were cuffing a chinese guy on the ground? Looked pritty much alive to me. Ofcourse there could have been more than one shooter, but I doubt it. I just don't understand some of the pics they were showing on the boob tube. When stuff like that goes down alot of people obviously panic.

Theres not always a reason for everything. If it happened next month we could use another excuse and so on. It was just some nut-jobber who felt like wasting young innocent lives. It happens in other countries but doesn't get the press we do. I feel for the families and students that are going to have to deal with this for the rest of their lives.

 

I've heard of guys killing their girlfriends, wives and kids but never kill the gf and then go to another building with chains to lock up the doors? To kill another 30 plus people? Really doesn't seem realistic to me. What nutter does that and chains up the doors? Whole day, just so surreal. Sad, awful day...
 

Really how can you visualize what this nut case was thinking.... his thoughts or motive? They all differ, but end with same results. Death. Its just he wanted to kill more. For all we know he had a few beefs with certain people and chained himself so noone could get to him and noone could escape. Didn't mean he had to kill but in the mind of a nutcase it doesn't matter. Blame politics, religion or immigration ... maybe some day we'll find out.
 

when i first heard it yesterday we were all crying!!
i work at anderson university a sister college!
all those poor familys! oh my god!
may GOD  be with those familys  they need our strength  to guide them threw this horrible massacre!!

 

the truth is it will most likely be 30 (the usual) or 100 years (jack the ripper/dunblane) before anything like the truth escapes regarding this incidents, and others similar to it. check my blog for a couple of interesting audio lynx regarding collumbine, port arthur & dunblane-all precursers at Virginia Tech.
 

all precursers of what occurred at Virginia Tech, i meant to say. baz
 

The most bizarre thing about this is that I saw both 300 and 23 on 3/11.  I blogged about it on 3/12.  Then the first commenter has disappeared like a dissenter behind the iron curtain!  The damn MySpace Gestapo got em!

Anyhow, I don't buy into numerology too much still.  Drive yourself nuts with numbers like a Jim Carrey movie, but I prefer to look for more concrete ties.

 

I don't necessarily buy into numerology. However I think there is a question about who did this for what reasons and did they intend to send a message through numerology? 
 

Frankly I am weary of conspiracy theories. Those of us who know the truth are not able to speak. To those of us who were complicit due to duty should not speak. To those of who cannot speak without KNOWING the truth, please be cognizant of the fact that conspiracy theory is just that. Theory, conjecture and the smug, all powerful feeling that "something is just not right." Voicing it gives power to those who do know. It obfuscates the facts, detracts from the search and buys time.

Time? You may wonder what that has to do with anything. It has a great deal as the writer of this blog points out. This particular "theorizing" about a tragedy on a college campus certainly does just that. It buys time for Gonzales. It matters little whether or not any of the theories are correct or even close to the truth, it still gives him exactly what he wants for a little longer. Emotions are high and Americans are distracted.

How long have you been distracted by theories about 9-11? Not as long as I have KNOWN the truth about 9-11. It was a simple, heinous act committed by an elite group who are in fact our masters. We may think we are free, but we are not.

Chatter (To talk rapidly, incessantly, and on trivial subjects; jabber) on a radio frequency is called that for one simple reason, it interferes with the air traffic controllers ability to effectively communicate VITAL information. It is for that reason and that reason alone that there are secure channels. Only if you are privy to what is being said on/over a "secure channel" can you ever hear the truth.

Either way as an average citizen, you are fucked. You are not EVER going to be privy to the truth. As Mulder used to say to Scully, "The truth is out there." Duh. He never said the American people en masse' were ever going to hear it. Or for that matter understand it if they did. Some evil is simply beyond the understanding of the righteous.

How long has it been since the Kennedy assassination? There are still people out there who absolutely refuse to believe that it was anyone other than one lone gunman.

This man today was highly trained in the use of weapons. He was in possession of enough ammunition and guns (two) to have easily done this all by himself. Anyone trained in weaponry and the absolute absence of latitude for failure of accuracy, knows this. As for getting away? That was never his intention. He entered this country from China (where military training is compulsory) without intent of ever leaving.

He is not leaving.
 

Just a footnote: If a person were to plan such an attack it would be standard procedure to test police response time. Hence the phony phone threats. This man, for whatever reason, planned and
executed these murders; this theft of human life, with much thought and malice aforethought.
 

Hey Trouble thanks for the insight. Do you work for the CIA or State Department?

You mentioned the people behind 9/11 own us. Who are they?


 

107 views of this blog this morning, 2 hours after changing over for the day and not a response since TROUBLE's posts. Not blaming people for being cautious. This is real. And a horrible day yesterday.

And if Trouble does work for the government, I think she did a good thing coming up and speaking some truth even if it is not kind to my blog! So kudos to you if you are as real as your profile suggests, looks legit to me. Off to work in the salt mines, not really but off for much of the day, until at least late afternoon then working again late night tonight, so have fun folks. 
 

It is (a real profile) and I am legit. I have been censured in the past, but I have never, ever lost my courage. I am too tired and disillusioned to constantly reenter a fray in which I cannot possibly hope to prevail. However I do have a brilliant mind, a keen intellect and a voice. Yes, I measure my words carefully. But not out of fear. I simply do not speak to empty rooms with only my own echo as a reply.

Those who know me, know whereof I speak. I am indefatigable, fearless and the truth I speak is there for those who truly wish to hear it.

Life holds no promises, nor guarantees. We have one simple choice before all others. To be sheep, or to be thoughtful, compassionate human beings with all of the responsibilities that entails.

Caroline is right, it is up to us to stop maligning and labeling one another, as if we are waiting in line for entrance to a hot club. We should have more dignity than to accept the wait for that tap on the shoulder, and that lowering of the rope.
 

Life holds no promises, nor guarantees. We have one simple choice before all others. To be sheep, or to be thoughtful, compassionate human beings with all of the responsibilities that entails.

Caroline is right, it is up to us to stop maligning and labeling one another, as if we are waiting in line for entrance to a hot club. We should have more dignity than to accept the wait for that tap on the shoulder, and that lowering of the rope.

Posted by T*R*O*U*B*L*E on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 at 5:33 AM

Agreed.

Hope to hear more from you.

I took the State Dept. test a few years back, it was pretty difficult and I've always done well with testing, SAT's etc.

 

This is America, we practically invented civilian mass murder.  A special case, not really.

The concern that this is somehow linked to secret powers operating in the shadows ignores the simple fact that 20,000 of us are victims of homicide each year, and 30,000 of us choose to do ourselves in.  There doesn't need to be a scheme hatched to ensure that dozens of us are killed every day--it happens anyway!  When a bunch of these homicides are concentrated in one location, it becomes especially greusome, and newsworthy.

The White House can be expected to latch on to this for all it's worth--not a conspiracy, just 21st century media cycles.

I ask this: Who was the happiest man in America yesterday?

...Don Imus.

Who was the happiest man in America on Sept. 11, 2001?

...Gary Condit.

What, you don't remember Condit?

Shit happens.  Once in a while, we get a perfect storm, and the corporate mainstream media can't turn its attention away from the panic, the sorrow, the blood, and the always unanswerable question, why?  Then, about a week later, things get back to normal.

For those who fear this is going to lead to stricted gun laws...please.

Your grasp on the second amendment is slipping.  Take away our guns!  Oh, the horror!  Look, the right to keep and bear arms, when narrowly defined as those arms that have the ability to send a bullet through the air, is destined to be an endless debate without any resolution.  Why?  Because the very force that our Forefathers sought to protect (the ability for a population to depose a government through violence when necessary--just as they did) has already been thoroughly neutralized.

You want to keep your matches and Bic lighters (i.e., guns), while the government has flamethrowers, napalm, cluster bombs and nukes.  Please.

There is no conspiracy, there is no threat to the right to keep and bear small arms.

As far as Gonzales--I say we torture the sumbitch, find out what he knows.

 

Quote:This is America, we practically invented civilian mass murder

Yes, this is what every country in the world believes. Old Canada thinks we're all evil simply because of a Micheal Moor-on film. Fact is all civilizations are evil not just the USA. We get the most press and if you look at the stats crime is majorly done by immigrants, illegals and other nationalities. This one is a fine example. I'm not saying close the borders, but how do we watch who comes in?

 

 

...if you look at the stats crime is majorly done by immigrants, illegals and other nationalities.

Sure, that's why way more than 90% of prisoners in the U.S. are U.S. nationals.

A 23 year-old who has been in the U.S. since age 8 is, largely, culturally American.

Instead of asking "how do we watch?" you should be more concerned with who you are inviting to watch you.

 

 

Agreed,....they dont do enough studies on these medicines before. And sad but true....Mr Bush and the legislators and big oil people are making the money right now

 

heh, the govt. never provides"proof" to anything, lol,we should all know that one, at least by now ;)

Always-Sincerely, Sugar Coma

 

I find great sense on Wake Up's comments about the Bush, that I believe should be hung for the same reasons that he got Saddam hung, is pulling his last few strings before coming off his throne. If he gets his way he will have all your guns taken away and then God knows what? Slavery begins again is certainaly something to worry about. Police force loaded to the tilts controlling you, Nooooooooooooooo!

TCOOO I asked of him if a possibility was there to modification of somekind so to specify taking care of our own, (what?), owing to the fact that our teenagers are twisting it into there own personnal shit and not know what the adults who create it have/had in mind. Moreover; I strongly believe at this point that most will try discourage their kids from joining the army and becoming them instead of a whole sole!

Power of the people is when?

We are but puppets to them at this rate.

 

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VT Shooter's Violent Writing
 

So some reports said he was a Chinese national from Shanghei and now he's from Korea? What's that about?
 

33 deaths? 32 victims plus 1 shooter = 33.

Magic Numbers. 11, 23, 32, 33.

BTW The JFK bullet has been proven to now be a straight one by computer animation ..