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Sexe : Male
Statut : En couple
Age : 40
Zodiaque: Vierge

Ville : NEW YORK
Région : New York
Pays: US
Date d’inscription :: 19/02/2006
lundi, janvier 07, 2008 
My OUT Magazine column for February is getting more notice than I anticipated.

I've long believed that the more chances America gets to see blatantly ugly homophobia in action, the better it is for the GLBT community. To quote Supreme Court Justice Brandeis:



"Sunshine is the best disinfectant."

Half humorously, half seriously, (as in everything I do) I suggested in my recent OUT column that gays and lesbians start a "Phags 4 Phelps Dephense Phund." Fred Phelps, if you don't know who he is, is the patriarch of a one-family-band of hate called the "Westboro Baptist Church."

Here's a quick snapshot of their brand of worship:



Fortunately or unfortunately - depending on your viewpoint - the Phelps family recently received an $11 million civil suit smackdown from the state of Maryland for "worshiping" at a soldier's funeral. (They used to picket exclusively gay funerals, but now picket any sort of newsworthy deaths, claiming that all Americans die because they live in a "fag-enabling" country.)

These folks have always cracked me up. I first saw them... or more accurately...Aqua first saw them at an Atlanta Pride Parade. This was before they were world-wide stars. Before Aqua was a star, even. There's a certain sentimental camaraderie I feel towards them. Can't help it.

I honestly think that the more America sees this ugly hatred, the more they shy away from it.



Seriously. Who, in their right mind, doesn't recoil at a picture like that?

So I suggested starting the "Phags 4 Phelps Dephense Phund" to keep them away from bankruptcy and out on the streets where they belong.


Things got really strange when I sent the Westboro Baptist Church a check for $100.

It was returned. Not because I'm gay. But because they accept no money from anyone...friend or foe.

I find that admirable. Or at least not hypocritical...which I sent them another letter telling them so.

They replied again. More specifically, Shirley Phelps replied. She's Fred's daughter and the de facto media spokesperson for the church. That's her on the right:



This is where things get strange.

Shirley is my new BFF and pen pal.

Through the course of our email relationship, we've become kinda chatty pals.

She asked for my input on good picketing sites in New York City for the upcoming Pope's visit. They hate the Pope for their reasons. I'm not fond of him for my own. So I obliged.

We discovered that our husbands' share the same first name. And that we each put the poor guys through respective hells.

I invited her to my farm upstate, and Shirley said that her daughter would love a farm visit. The daughter had been pestering Shirley and her father for chickens for quite some time.

It's a little surreal. But since I think Shirley's message does GLBT folks good in the long run, and Shirley thinks her message does America good too, we're sort of on the same side...for opposite reasons.

So, friends, that's the explanation behind anything you hear or read about me supporting homophobes. You can read the original OUT Magazine Column and more about Shirley's and my correspondence here. (phagsforphelps.com)

(And if you're media reading this and would like to talk to either Shirley or myself about our strange bedfellowship, please email me at iamnotmyself@mac.com. I'm not sure whether or not I can reach God for comment.)

hugs and fishes,
jkp
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Jesse Matheson <3
Jesse Matheson

 
altough u make sense u dont make sense :P

im a 15 year old gay person and when i watched those people on youtube i cried my eyes out...and it hurts me that you do support them...i understand your logic but it still isnt a good thing.

I HATE THESE GUYS WHERES MY $100

XxjessexX
 
Publié par Jesse Matheson <3 le lundi, janvier 07, 2008 - 1:56
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josh kilmer-purcell
Josh kilmer-purcell

 
don't cry over them. they have no power over you. or any of us.

cry over mitt romney, huckabee, and even the democrats against gay marriage and equal rights. they're the homophobes in sheep's clothing that we really need to be upset over.

god loves you.

xo
 
Publié par josh kilmer-purcell le lundi, janvier 07, 2008 - 2:08
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Mikey B! <deviantly poetic>
Mike Brazell

 
Good work Josh!!!

I agree with you. We cannot stop the train of hate, and can only hope that America sees them for who they really are (which I think most do). Unfortunatly there are still those that are intolerant and believe we will all burn in a stew of filth because of who we are, they just dont carry neon signs.

You as always are pushing the envelope, and I admire that completly. I remember running into them on a PeTA trip a few years back. It was pretty amazing to see them, in all they conviction up close and in person. My coworker said that we should run over and begin yelling at them, and block their signs, etc. I told him that we would be hypocrites as messengers for a cause. Its up to us to take the message for what it's worth. Being both gay, and a former veteran, my heart truly goes out to their families, but you are 100% correct. They louder their hate speech, the more exposed they become for what they truly are.
 
Publié par Mikey B! <deviantly poetic> le lundi, janvier 07, 2008 - 3:49
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Cody

 
We cannot stop their train of hatred BUT if our train of hatred for them leaves the station on the same track at the same time as their train, I bet they will all be dead in... Damn! I knew I should have paid more attention in alegbra.
 
Publié par Cody le lundi, février 25, 2008 - 2:33
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Chubbs

 
I love the way you think!
 
Publié par Chubbs le lundi, janvier 07, 2008 - 4:24
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Summahh!!!

 
Oh, my God, Josh. That's awesome.
 
Publié par Summahh!!! le lundi, janvier 07, 2008 - 5:02
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The One and Only MissQ

 
I think you are right about Americans hating hate and you have an interesting perspective on this group. right on!
 
Publié par The One and Only MissQ le lundi, janvier 07, 2008 - 5:45
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Little Stevie May
Steve May

 
thanks josh!

i apologize in adance for my lack of comment on a remarkable blog, but your closing, "hugs and fishes" totally cracked me up.

about a month ago, i had to suffer through a motivational speaker who was obsessed with the 22 pugs that live in his house. he closes all correspondence with "hugs and pugs" or "pugs and kisses"

this probably isn't funny to anyone but me, but again, you made me giggle.
 
Publié par Little Stevie May le lundi, janvier 07, 2008 - 6:26
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Joc.

 
i'm not sure about supporting them. i'm perfectly fine with me hating them and can't wrap my mind around anything they do being positive. i do find it amusing that Shirley is your new BFF.

those little girls are so cute, too bad they have horrible fashion sense.
 
Publié par Joc. le lundi, janvier 07, 2008 - 6:29
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WHITE TRASH

 
Interesting!!
 
Publié par WHITE TRASH le lundi, janvier 07, 2008 - 7:58
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Karen

 
It's funny, I have kinda been on a similar wavelength. Wow, they sure make the homophones look REAL bad. Because you know, to me they are all one in the same.

And I HATE that it took them picketing solders funerals for the majority of America to take real notice. I think, above anything else that speaks volumes about this country.
 
Publié par Karen le lundi, janvier 07, 2008 - 8:14
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A is for Anthony

 
Wow!
 
Publié par A is for Anthony le lundi, janvier 07, 2008 - 8:36
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Lower Baritone
Peter Wright

 
I sing for the Seattle Men's Chorus and we faced similar controversy with our concert last June during Pride Weekend. The concert was called Scared Faithless: God and Gays in the 21st Century. For our poster campaign we had pictures of two of these people on the poster, one holding a sign that said "God Hates Fags" the other that says "You're Going to Hell." Oddly, many business refused to hang our posters becuase they were offended by the signs. To appease everyone, we created "censored" stickers which could placed over the offending words.

Later that weekend at the Seattle Pride Parade we encountered sign carriers along the parade route. It's so funny (I mean come on, you just have to laugh) that they thing they are spreading the Word of God by the things they do and say. You're right, JKP...they're only hurting themselves.
 
Publié par Lower Baritone le lundi, janvier 07, 2008 - 9:01
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Chris

 
When I read it, I thought it was a well written and thoughtful column. I enjoyed reading it and felt you made your point quite clear.

And, frankly, I'd assume that if any of us had direct lines to God for comment, it'd be you.
 
Publié par Chris le lundi, janvier 07, 2008 - 10:42
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3263827
L K

 
*wonders what devious plot will be hatched*
 
Publié par 3263827 le mardi, janvier 08, 2008 - 12:36
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Zelda Rose
Zelda Rose

 
I understand your reasoning, and even think the concept of exposing the worst of the bigots to the light of day is the best way of dealing with them. And yes, I'd prefer an open homophobe than one who won't admit they would say what Phelps does if they could get away with it...

But to offer financial support to them? No. Even if I think the whole lawsuit thing was dumb and just gives them yet another platform...

However, if you someday get through to someone like Shirley Phelps and her daughter and get it into their heads that gay people are people....

I hope too much.
 
Publié par Zelda Rose le mardi, janvier 08, 2008 - 4:34
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My Pet Virus: The True MySpace of Shawn Decker
Shawn Decker

 
I saw your BFF on that Fox segment. She called the anchor a tramp or something, which I thought kind of muddied her argument: is she against gay people or tramps? You might want to go over this with her.

And hilarious work, you're right in that these people have no power over us, and I think seeing them on TV embarrasses people who share their belief system, even if they display it in less obvious ways.

Like the majority of the candidates running for prez.
Shawn
PS... Happy New Year!
 
Publié par My Pet Virus: The True MySpace of Shawn Decker le mercredi, janvier 09, 2008 - 5:42
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Robert

 
Kudos on getting a response from them. It is truly interesting that they responded, and that you now have a conversation, even relationship, going with them.

From the moment when I learned of who they were, I told as many people as I knew about them and their message of hate. I suppose I was on a similar wave length. The more people see behavior like this, the more it forces them to choose. For or against, there is no middle ground.

I became aware of you through Towleroad.com. and I intend on getting your book and reading it.

Keep up the brave work!

And if you get a chance, ask Shirley about "God is Love" That’s the part of the bible that has me confused about their actions.

Best!

Robert
 
Publié par Robert le mercredi, janvier 09, 2008 - 6:07
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josh kilmer-purcell
Josh kilmer-purcell

 
hey robert...as a matter of fact, shirley has talked about "god is love" in her own inimitable manner. she believes that god is love AND hate. and, trust me, she's got the scriptural back-up to beat you into submission.

that's the funny thing about the bible. you can't argue for anything without finding something that argues against it.

so that's why it's best just to smile and nod.

smiling and nodding is probably the wisest religion of all.
 
Publié par josh kilmer-purcell le jeudi, janvier 10, 2008 - 12:33
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Al@n

 
I get you! Got the magazine in the mail yesterday. I flip straight to your column. This is brilz Josh!
 
Publié par Al@n le mercredi, janvier 09, 2008 - 10:11
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Roger DeWayne

 
I do the same thing! Josh, your column is the FIRST thing I read!
 
Publié par Roger DeWayne le samedi, janvier 19, 2008 - 10:50
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David
David Schmidt

 
Where there is a will, there is a way... Good work, as usual!
 
Publié par David le jeudi, janvier 10, 2008 - 4:19
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chris

 
what a great strategy!
people should get the chance to see what they are about. you have to treat them like they're dort of entertaining and oddly comical and the public will start to see them that way and learn to dislike them for their outragusly hateful message.
 
Publié par chris le samedi, janvier 12, 2008 - 3:33
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Neil...AKA...Neil "Rocks The Gear"

 
Josh, you crack me up. You're like watching a ballet dancer in mine field, beautiful to watch but you just know sooner or later something terrible is gonna happen. Keep up the good fight and be careful dealing with these nut cases. At the end of the day, they don't like you at all.
Neil...AKA...Neil
US Army Veteran
Patriot Guard Rider Member
 
Publié par Neil...AKA...Neil "Rocks The Gear" le mardi, janvier 15, 2008 - 7:05
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Ol' Dirtbeard

 
Josh,

Like you, I am less-than enthusiastic about the WBC's current form of worship (protesting funerals while espousing homophobia).

I can't help but chuckle when I think about how the right-Reverend (although disbarred) Phelps, Sr. will respond when he finds out that his daughter, Shirley, is chatting it up with you. Why, she might get infected with the designer gene (or is that jean) that makes us different (isn't that how it works? I get mixed up sometimes). Or, a radical notion might surface within the WBC that homosexuals are, in fact, human after all.

But, in the final analysis, I offer this. You continue to share a bit of humanity with Shirley, and I'll join my biker buds standing in opposition to them when they protest because I would hate for anyone to labor under the mistaken opinion that they speak for me.

As Joe Walsh once sang, Burn the candle at both ends, twice the light in half the time.
 
Publié par Ol' Dirtbeard le mardi, janvier 15, 2008 - 7:36
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Nate Phelps
Nathan Phelps

 
*smiles and nods*
 
Publié par Nate Phelps le vendredi, janvier 18, 2008 - 4:41
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Cory Christ

 
There is a word for what you're doing. It's called exploitation. It's usually a dirty word, but in this case, it's actually pretty funny.
 
Publié par Cory Christ le dimanche, janvier 20, 2008 - 10:36
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KAI have some
Kai Villegas

 
join the I HATE SHIRLEY PHELPS group!

http://groups.myspace.com/ih8shirley
 
Publié par KAI have some le lundi, janvier 28, 2008 - 3:21
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Cody

 
God bless them! They are going to need it!
 
Publié par Cody le lundi, février 25, 2008 - 2:35
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Leslie

 
Am I missing something?!? She knows you're gay and yet she is ok with being your friend and visiting your farm?! Please explain why she doesn't hate you.
 
Publié par Leslie le vendredi, mars 07, 2008 - 3:30
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