I suppose you got some negative remarks then? Just shove 'em aside and be proud of what you've done so far and will do in the future. I'll never be able to afford this and I've been a TG fan since 1980 ... no big deal to me! Respect to the 4 of U for remaining true to your artistic values!!! All the best from France.

 

I'd still like to buy the lp by itself. I don't like digital downloads. Cds are ok.


True collectors want to have an original item over a reissue. That's why they pay the high prices.


I bought TG24 on cd when first released. I was dissapointed when you decided to issue another pressing.
(I see a copy on ebay going for $899 so perhaps now is the time for another reissue?)

I truly appreciate what you do and am very supportive, but cost keeps me from buying all of your releases.


Thank you,
elektrolad

p.s. Part Two The Endless Not (Original Totem Edition) can still be obtained from MuteBank US. I bought three copies.

 

I agree.


I am very HAPPY with a download and the fact that you are giving this option nullifies any concerns of so-called 'elitism.
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What major supporter of 'TG' with the available money would not like a framed-set? Why not produce 'special' non-conformist items?

To be honest I do not feel 'TG' have been properly credited or fully renumerated for their influence.


And yes, material is selling on ebay and through bootleggers for much more. Personally, I feel fortunate 'TG' are giving us anything. It is not as if they are 'forced' to or that their position in music history is not assured.

 

Sounds reasonable to me. My only problem is actually finding these items when they're released AND having the funds at the same time.

 

Whenz u doing the long player with Daniel O' Donald.

))))))))))))))))))))))))))oo)))))))))))))))))))))))))))):>)~
 

I personally think it is a disgrace that TG should be put into the position where they feel they have to justify the pricing of a limited special edition, and I'm sure there are people out there complaining about the cost of this release who would, without question, splash out more than £120 on a pair of ridiculous looking trainers/random fashion accessory or even piss the equivalent amount of cash up the wall on an average Friday/Saturday night out on the lash...do these people go into shops and complain to the retailers about all the expensive merchandise on display that they are too poor to buy? I think not. Has music (or art) been so devalued to the point where fans expect independent musicians like TG to just give away special releases like this for free? Obviously it has.

 

In regard to the 32nd annual report debate it would seem the current blog posts and statements from Industrial Records and TG are in reference to a personal message I posted to the TG MySpace in protest at the price of this and other items.

No member or representative of Industrial Records or TG replied directly to my message.

The new statement issued on the subject covers every point I made. However, if TG intended a cheaper download of this material it was never stated on any of the websites. In fact, although TG now promise a digital download version available on day of release then exactly how and where can ordinary TG fans purchase this? There is still now way of ordering the item as a download.

I feel that this announcement is due to a volume of true TG fans who were outraged at the price and TG have only now decided to release a cheaper download version.

If TG had intended a multi format release to suit all pockets why was this not mentioned in the promotion of the release. There's still no way of ordering a cheaper version.

Surely an ordinary CD release would have been a fairer option for all TG fans.

I have a problem with your remarks that to buy the disc in a frame for 120 pounds is a good investment. TG fans follow your work because we LOVE your musick. We are not INVESTORS.

I fail to see how making something expensive makes it better art. It is MUSICK.

The framed edition IS an elitist art item that very few people can afford.

I'm sure the majority of TG fans agree.


Yours faithfully.

Colin
TG fan for 32 years
 

^agreed

just make some fucking music, release it like any normal band. THEN make a special addition for all the rich elitists to stroke off too.

 

2nd Annual Report remains one of my all time favorite albums (even though my first copy was backwards). I had to record it to 2-track tape, flip the tape, and re-record it. I also had to slow down United several 1000% through multiple tape passes to hear the single version. No "DSP plugins" back then.
:)

It will be nice to hear the new interpretation of this historically significant work.
I'm sorry I could not make it to the live event itself!

If you make the music accessible, I don't see any harm also selling alternative artwork. I agree it is fully in keeping with your tradition of exploring new avenues and vehicles of expression.


-Ethan
 

Yes it is true that original articles bear unmistakable authenticity, people will go out of their way to experience authenticity. Take the Body Worlds exhibit for instance.
Who could resist seeing real human bodies? It was a resounding success in Philadelphia!

The older original stuff will pull more from some folks.


It's super great that TG is still amoung us.
I've known them since the beginning ( at least in the US )
Charge On Industrial Records, I'll be by to check out your offerings!
 

i think TG should charge as much as they want, music is taken to commonly as just another cd for 15 dollars that your gonna listen to every once in a while and not even fully appreciate. i love that they are challenging peoples preconceptions of music/art/entertainment.

 

Gotta admit I have mixed feelings here. I think special items such as the gold totem and the framed addition of the thirty-second annual report are interesting ways of changing peoples perception of things and possibly reclaiming music as a high art form. I'm not going to lose any sleep over not owning any of those items, especially when there is a music download. What DOES bother me is that the majority of your fans will never get to hear or watch a good percentage of your music/performances due to sets such as TG24 and TGV. I have been waiting over a decade to find a video of your performances, but it is simply unaffordable. What I feel would have been a good idea is to sell each video separate, but still sell TGV as a special item which may have come with some rare items available nowhere else, such as pins, COUM posters, or a t-shirt. Same should have went for TG24. PS- A tad off the subject, but do you have recordings of COUM performances? Another thing I have been waiting for for years...