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Dann Arky


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Wednesday, December 07, 2005 

Category: News and Politics

Invading an intersection near you

 

 

Yet another reason, to lookup. Have you looked up at your local intersections lately? If not then you need to, it’s likely they are installing cameras above them by now.

 

 

My exclusive street camera experience of old:

They started doing this in my old hometown, in Michigan, back around ‘98-99. We were one of the first cities in the country to receive these installations. As you’d guess, the cameras certainly did bother me, but that’s not why I went on to hate them. Up there it’s a big trend to have no right turn on red signs at many intersections. In certain busy intersections, it’s understandable, but not all of them.

 

 

I lived on the lake, we had “Lake Drive’s”, that wrapped nearly all the way around the lake. On my side, there was two ways to get out of the neighborhood… turn right or left onto the lake drive, from my street. Each path would take you entirely different ways, practically to different cities. If you turned left, you’d follow wrap around the lake for about a mile, then there was a long straight-a-way, nearly a mile long. This straight away was all thick fields and small shrub-like trees.

 

 

For many years, that lake drive would end after the approx mile at the stop sign, and you could only turn right or left. That road, that you could turn onto, was never a busy road, and still isn’t from what I could tell the last time I was there. At about the time they started hooking up the cameras, a huge subdivision went up. They made the end of my Lake Drive a four way intersection, and also installed no turn on red signs and cameras.

 

 

Note that this “lake drive” was only one of two ways out of our “neighborhood”, our side of the lake. According to the laws, they could not “guard” an entrance to a residential area. This was proven since they didn’t have a camera pointed into that new sub, yet violated considering there was only 2 ways out of our “sub”, and they had cameras mounted at that end facing our side.

 

Despite the clear violation, that’s not what really pissed me off. The problem was they put up the lights and the cameras, and replaced our stop sign with a no turn on red sign. It was only 25mph down that barren mile long straight-a-way. He light was no turn on red, and also had a left turn lane. I’d creep at 25 mph and have nothing to look at besides that light. It always seemed to take eons to reach it. The left turn signal would turn on for no more than 10 seconds, then turn red—the normal lane light would turn on for about 20 seconds—then turn red for about 2 minutes.

 

Nearly every single time I’d travel that way, I’d watch that damn light turn green, and then red usually right before I’d get to it. Then I’d have to wait, and wait, and wait. The new sub side didn’t have a no turn on red, so I’d sit there and watch them all go on about their merry way. Then, to add insult to injury, 90f the time during my 2 minute wait, 0-2 cars would actually go by.

 

 

Days of the new:

Within the last couple months, I finally started noticing them here. The first time, I was headed home from work early around 1PM, and actually drove underneath as the guy was up there in the “boom” wiring it up. Since then they’ve been springing up, like Michael Jordan running through a Mexican Jumping Bean field.

 

Then last weekend I picked up a paper by chance, and beheld a map showing the upcoming highway cameras, just the highway cameras. The source was from “Intelligent Transportation System & Freeway Operations, Florida Department of Transportation, District 7”. This confirms that the ITS system that controls the vehicle GPS System that I mentioned before, is also in control of the nations street cameras.

 

 

We drove around the other day, and found these things all over the place We even found a new style camera, that I’ve never seen used before. It’s mounted on that fancy x-y axis base, meaning it can “pan & zoom”, and look everywhere except for straight up-down. What was really interesting, is one we passed was looking “straight” up into the sky, but was then back to normal when passing it again after lunch. I wonder if it was looking at its God?

 

 

I decided to look up ITS & cameras, on the DOT website. I found this dated page, which details well over 100 cameras being installed around the state in July 2002 alone. I couldn’t find a page with any current totals, and if anyone learns how to, please let me know. To learn about cameras in your state, just go to your states “DOT” site and search for “ITS” and “Camera”.

 

 

How to contact your local authorities about this:

 

The sign is a roadragecards in case you’re wondering.

Ignorance Isn't Bliss
Dann Arky

 
I've seen plate covers in catalogs, but it was a long time ago and I havent seen one of those catalogs for some time. Not sure whther they even worked then or now either.
 
Posted by Ignorance Isn't Bliss on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 2:14 PM
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Ignorance Isn't Bliss
Dann Arky

 

It's only a matter of time befroe they go nuts with that.

Phase 1: Build it
Phase 2: Pass crazy laws
Phase 3: ENFORCE! ENFORCE! ENFORCE!

Y ya know we're so hard up for money, 8+ trillion in debt, this and that-- yet they have money to waste on these things? They have perfectly good sensors that control the lights without ANY cameras. WTF do they need these things all over the place?


 
Posted by Ignorance Isn't Bliss on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 2:19 PM
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Lo

 
Another good post.  I usually smile and wave at the cameras while driving by, or at a stop light.  I don't like them at all.  It's just another invasion of our privacy.  
 
Posted by Lo on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 2:23 PM
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ecs+ra

 
sure, i've flipped off my share of these fricken things...  (usually while on foot though) they put in a lot downtown Cincinnati, OH late 90's  most likely to monitor their crack sales in the slums. 

and yeah, how can we afford this shit but meanwhile funding keeps getting cut for finding asteroids that will potentially destroy the planet at any given moment.  god bless america!



 
Posted by ecs+ra on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 3:05 PM
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SaraSwinson
Sara Swinson

 
Police state.
 
Posted by SaraSwinson on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 3:39 PM
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CEO G.Q.

 
Next time Im'a be flipping the bird at all intersections with the big "fuck you" Great post Iggy!!!
 
Posted by CEO G.Q. on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 3:43 PM
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Tort Reform for dummies

 
Have em' here in Dallas. Damn things watch me swig my beer. Liked the Jordan comment. I actually won an award for a band review article where i used, "This guy hits riffs like Barry Bonds hits homeruns" Everybody loved it. By the way, I hate baseball, but I thought it was a good idea.
 
Posted by Tort Reform for dummies on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 4:36 PM
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Sarah

 

fun! fun! I also noticed on a highway that has tons of these, it's so backed up 99% of the time that no one has time to look up.,....where most of the new cameras are located. If ya do, you risk hitting the asshole in front of you that's tapping on his brakes every 10-15 secs randomly. lol. fuckin cameras suck.

You know what's next too right? Speed sensors in the cameras!! yay! I'll be broke....


 
Posted by Sarah on Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 2:06 AM
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Del (not delete)

 
In my local library, they have a covering for the monitor screens, supposedly for anti-glare purposes.  It also has the characteristic of not letting you be able to read it from the side.
How about a piece cut to fit over a license plate...................


 
Posted by Del (not delete) on Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 2:44 AM
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Ratman

 

These have absolutley nothing to do with helping people. They let uncontrolled growth go on which means traffic is at a standstill, which means if you need an ambulance, well, just go and die sucker, there's money to be made. And how many cops do you know that actually do anything about speeders and stopsign violations? I got laughed at by the head cop here when I was bitching about them refusing to do their job. They will not ticket people in firelanes, etc, etc.

This is only to watch us in case we get any brilliant ideas if you know what I mean.

On that old link, I just clicked on it, and then changed the date (I only bothered with the year)

http://www.dot.state.fl.us/trafficoperations/ITS/ITSDeployment/newsletter/issues/july05.htm#FHWA

 

See where it's july 05, I put in 5 and also 4 and hit go and it had a good newer page.

 

 


 
Posted by Ratman on Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 5:22 PM
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