it's all rather laughable......as if it mattered

which god is the real god or which one is the same.........the

illuminates have proclaimed themselves god  time and again.....

and,technically,the earth IS ruled over by

AL -SHADDAI,the LORd of battles.

google it.

Sure Islam might accept the Old testament, but who's to say that the G-d they worship is really the same deity? It's to my understanding that even the Old Testament is rarely acknowledged, but Mohammeds books are worshipped extensively. At least the New Testament is completely cross linked with the Old, back and forth. Islam tells that Jesus and the New Testament is a lie, and that "Allah" is all that, and to kill the infidels (Jews & Christians). It's about peace, just as long as you're a Muslim. Whether or not Mohammed was a false prophet or not is really not important here. Muslims might just be praying to the same God, in manners totally unlike the Old Testament, but that doesnt matter either. Both sides scriptures teach against the other. When the most powerful man in the world, who practically has his own religious following, get sup there and says we're all worshipping the same G-d, all that does is tell kids(Christian and Muslim) its ok to go read "the enemies" books, as if it were their own.

He has not only respected these other religions, and has even practiced and performed their ceremonies and rituals, on their holiday dates and all. Conisdering the Islam, Hindu and Shinto worship: It is not out of context to use the any form of Luciferic or similar religion as an example here: Him performing these rituals would be no different than perfroming Luciferic religious rituals. Bottom line.

His own doctrine forbids his words and practices, and nobody cares. Instead everyone wants to debate if theyre all the same G-d. If Jesus Christ is someones God, and they say that He wasn't then it shouldnt be too hard to figure out that you cannot call them the same G-d. They say Jesus was just a man, NOT God's son, what is there to discuss? To carry on and call someones savior a complete LIE, and that your savior Mohammed is correct instead, in such a manner should make it plain as day that the two are incompatable. So then you get Bush up there saying we all worship the same deity; I wonder how many kids hes converted so far? 

QUESTION: Does Bush worship Jesus Christ, or does he worship Allah?

I think he said it himself. I dont think he really knows who hes praying to, or who it is telling him to invade countries.

I'm not even here attack Islam. Even if Mohammed was a phoney those people (most of them anyways) just might actually be worshiping the same creator God that they probably wouldnt have if it wasnt for the Mohammed books.

 Hay if this Parasite thinks he is my GOD I bet not... I really hope this Parasite is having a real good time because when he gets to St Peter things are really going to be diff. and that is when he will go stright to HELL..... You also knoe this Parasite is trying to do GODs Job.. THIS IS NOT MY GOD.... BUSH THINKS HE IS I BET NOT......

PS.. and for the rest of the GOP THEY ARE NOT GOD EATHER......

Lisa Leeds  

BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE.......

Thanks a lot for making sweeping generalizations

and painting

ALL CHRISTIANS to look like facist ignorami.

The majority of us aren't even FUNDAMENTALISTS -

we attend non-denominational Christian churches.

Way to promote tolerance, love and understanding.

Brilliant.

None of us have the ability to process information pragmatically.

The fact that I am even able to respond in a logical manner is a miracle.

Wait - let me contact The Vatican...

A blonde Christian is THINKING.

I guess I am able to do what most of us can't.

I am an anomaly - standing alone.

I'm sorry that

the rest of the Christians couldn't be bothered to read your blog today.

WE are too busy killing, lying or licking the presidents boots.

I'm so hurt and angered by this piece work

I can't even answer.

But then -

People like you and the people that love blogs like this don't want to listen to Christians like me anyway.

Respecting and encouraging others to follow their faith is far different than actually performing the religious cermonies. People can and do whatever faith they wish, thats not the point here. The point is that he claims to be super Christian man, but he directly violates the most simple docrines. Notice I didnt evne chastize GHWB for his masonic bible stint, because he doesnt have an actual religious following like GWB. This man is idolized as if he is some sort of messiah. You may not realize this, but I've had WAY too many experieinces (mmany here on myspace) to think any different.

The whole point is there are millions of people who absolutely refuse to hear anything bad about Bush, and with him it goes beyond the simple binary ideology I presented in D i v i d e d We Stand. I show someone about the closest proof anyone ever could to prove the mark of the beast prophecy, I basically prove their Bible prophecy is REAL, but they attack me for speaking bad of Bush???? They wont even listen to anything I have to say once they see a bad picture of Bush. Absolutely absurd, it sickens but motivates me.

This blog took way longer than i expected (Bush has done alot of evil), and there's much more to come in demonstrating Bush's so called faith(not just other religions stuff either). The fact so far demonstrates how honest he is to his own faith, imagine how honest he is in any other regard. Bush skated in, when religious people were desperate to have a president represent. He did, millions literally worship him, he's fake he's evil, people need to wake up. Just because he added ID to school doesnt make him a messiah, doesnt excuse his greed and lies.

He's demonized Christianity, becaus ethe people who dont care for it or are against it anyways see right thru his lies and see what he's really about. This gives them ammo to assault religion. What Would Jesus Bomb? Thanks to Bush millions think Jesus is evil, or at least they have an excellent excuse to portray it that way. (Damn I'm getting into part 2 here) Here's what Bush has really doen for Christianity, TAKE A GOOD LOOK:

Wake up AmerikA.

lol at this.........................Absolutely absurd, it sickens but motivates me.

If I missed it I apologize, but could you show me when/where Bush claimed to be a "super christian" ?  For the record, you have a valid argument here.

Don't forget whos been teaching you all that evolution theory all along. Interesting timing in history for a president to show up to give the people back their right to learn more than one theory about human origins eh? Dont blame societies binaryism on the ID,  it was already there through politics, has been for eons. What it really is-that he used it as his bartering tool, and it worked. He has millions of faithful followers who will not allow anyone to change his image. Why? Because they were so desperate, can you  blame them? Imagine if they only taught ID instead of evolution. For all you know you have have some sort of faith, besides evolution, if they would have taught you more than just that.

If you dont want your kids to hear an alternative origins theory how can you outlaw that, but the other half of the people must hear the other theory aone. Teaching only evolution is a violation of free speech and freedom of information. It violatess the free speech of any teacher who would get asked a religious question, it violates the childrens freedom of information and their free speech. You dont want your kids to grow up into some religion? So what its a free country they can do whatever they want.

Evolution is a great theory, but it really doesnt have all of the answers, it just makes alot of sense. To teach only one thing is worse than binary, its singularity, singularity in the governments theory - that same concept of evolution is what they are about to attempt to usher in by 2020, to jack us all into the singularity neurosphere.

let me first say this:

i do not think that evolution is the only answer, nor do i think that it should be impossed on kids who dont want it to be taught to them.

however ID IS basicaly religion in disguise. and the first amendment CLEARLY states: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"....... a public school CANNOT put religion of any sort into theyre curriculum. thats NOT LEGAL. evolution is science. it may not be completly solid science. but it is non the less. therefor, i beleive that evolution should be tought in a NON required upper level biology class, and should not have ID in the classroom. therefor people interested in biology can take the class. those who dont care or dont like the theory dont have to. its a simple solution. and a legal one.

I don't see why they can present mulitple theories and ideas in a world religion & philopophy class - then leave biology to learning the table of elements, conducting experiments and dissecting frogs.

Then teach Critical Thinking as a required course.

They area going need Critical Thinking (known as English 1c or Phi 4 - Intro to Logic) for logical construction of essays, oral presentations (in communcations courses), classroom discussion/debate, and term papers anyway.

You'd think our school system would want our students to be more prepared for college.

While striving to teach to the lowest common denominator - we leave out all the kids who have the ability and desire to think critically, consider a mulititude of ideas and come to logical conclusions.

It seems that the activists involved in this particular debate only want one theory - Intelligent Design or Evolution not BOTH - and certainly not the mulititude of alternate theories going back to the dawn of man to current alternate theories under consideration and research.

They don't think high schoolers are capable of such expansive thought and discussion.

I don't know about you - but when I got to college and met so many friends from foreign countries in HONORS level courses - although I had the innate capability - I just didn't possess the knowledge to compete with them academically.

No wonder I felt like my last three years of schooling in the public system (even attending an Academic Decathalon school) were lacking. 

By graduation - although I'd been in AP English - I'd only read a few of the "classics" because a lot of the COOL BOOKS were on the banned books list and we weren't allowed to even have them in our own school library (i.e. Kurt Vonnegut's "Slaughter House Five").

I could go on but - I won't.  I know I'm preaching to the choir on this one.

jeese. this has become a long conversation huh?

look. i said that evolution should not be in a basic biology class. because it IS wrong to impose it on those who dont know. however evolution is an important part of biology and thus those who delve deply into biology should know it. thus it being in an advanced class. even you could agree with that right?

for the religious part. i simply am stating the law. i am actually attending a philosophy of religion class at the community college(running start:for those of you not in washington, thats free college schooling while still in highschool. i get highschool and college credit simultaniously.) perhaps in some sort of non required class we could give ID like things, i just dont want it to be a required curriculum. JUST as i dont want evolution to be a required curriculum.

and on that other not. i totaly agree that schools are not getting kids ready for college. a good 90% of what ive learned during highschool i did on my own. only in running start have i actually attended intellectually challanging classes. most of the classics ive read have been on my own time as well( although i usually only read the sci fi classics like dune and 1984.ide like to get into the other non sci fi classics.) 

and lastly: "They don't think high schoolers are capable of such expansive thought and discussion"----most arnt...heh heh. (atleast in my experience). unfortunatly, intelligent people must suffer because of the incapacity of the populous. and its not neccisarily intelligence. its the atmosphere of this country that promotes intellectual laziness and interest in nothing but t.v and sports. math and reading simply arnt priorities in this country. this makes an impression on the everyone. only a minority can escape this suffocation of intelligence.

man...sometimes I feel like I'm living in a bad dream. 

why can't we all just believe what we want and get along and accept it. im so tired of the arguing and putting down of each other's beliefs.  yea there are Christians who pressure thier faith on others but there are people of all beliefs that do that...no difference.  I know this may be off the subject at hand a bit but...well, nevermind, I really enjoy reading your blogs, makes ya think.

Have a great day :)

F.R.O.G.

Hey thanks for the reminder...Forever Rely On G-d.  We must remember that G-d can even use Mr. GW to bring about His purpose in these end times.  I don't trust Bush but I do trust in the Lord.  Not one jot or tittle of the Prophecies will be left undone.

This is mostly motivated because i've had countless encounters with Christians who seem to hold Bush in the same esteem as Jesus Christ Himself.

Wow...that is INSANE!  He is just a man.

How disturbing.

ok so i actually read the comments this time:

first off. The muslim religion is actually far closer to old judaism than christianity in its practices.

second: the new testament actually really isnt that cross linked with the old testemant except in reference and history. its COMPLETLY DIFFERENT. that was THE POINT of jesus. to change the religion.

third: the "Killing of the infidels". dude. thats cultural, not religious. the islamic church is supposed to be very peacful. there are other sects of islam that are peacful today. and we cant say shit about that cause the catholic church did FAR worse things. its a perversion of religion. it happens. but that doesnt mean the religion is bad, just that interpritation.

fourth: again, it depends on the sect of islam. some of them do respect jesus(as more of a philosopher, not savior).

Your only looking at a minority of the islams. your not misquoting, your just angling the evidence in your favor, misinforming by choosing only that which benifits your opinion. its actually worse than misquoting.

1+2: This blog isnt even here to debate about what religion is right. The fact of the matter is Bush worships a list of gods and Allah is one of them.

3: Are we all arabs from another country?

4: Doesnt change on thin, get back on the topic.

Which evidience? "forth"? No matter your opinion, it doesnt ruin my case that Bush isnt faithful to his faith.

i realize that you are not trying to preach in this. im simply making a point that Muslims are not this horribly off the track religion, and that they do pretty much worship the same creator ideal that we christians do.

i dont quite undestand what that statment means... i just ment for 3 that theyre religion is not violent. that that is simply a cultural issue. the religion itself is peacful. its nothing more than human nature for some people to take any religion(its happened in christianity too) and use it as a means to start a war and give them power.

and for the fourth i was just stating that they dont all HATE our beleifes, they simply dont follow them.

if your asking for evidence for the forth, im sorry i cant give you that, only my word that ive had personal experience with muslims, and they arnt all this stereotyped terrorists that we seem to think they are. many of them are great people and theyre religion isnt normaly violent. although your right, it doesnt really matter to your blogs main porpuse. ive already stated my reasoning for that. i may not as well that i am against bush and i beleive that many of his religious undertakings outlined in this blog are not right. however i do not beleive everything you have said about him is neccisarily such a terrible thing.

If you ask me about someone, and I describe them to you accurately.  Then they describe someone with COMPLETELY DIFFERENT characteristics.  Then we can't be talking about the same person.  It is the same way with God.

Jews say that Christ has no divinity, in essence rejecting the very promise that they were blessed with.  They do not follow the old testament as Jesus obviously points out in the New Testament; therefore, they worship a different God.

Muslims call God Allah and say that Muhammed was given a revelation by him.  They do not beleive or worship the same God.

Christians believe that God is the Holy Trinity Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and that this was revealed through Scripture and through the Holy Councils of the church, a God who discriminates not through bloodlines as the jews do (apparently they forgot about Melchizadek -sp?-), and a God who commanded to Love your enemy and your neighbor as yourself unlike the Muslims who preach destruction to the infidel.

These cannot be the same being.  We do not worship the same God as the Masons say.

in reference to the jewish portion of this, your horribly off. WE DO WORSHIP THE SAME GOD AS JEWS. havnt you ever read the history? christians are jews who beleived jesus. it was this god who changed his ways to allow people to be more free. but it was not a different god.

secondly. names mean nothing. god. allah. for gods sake they speak a different language. names are NOT characteristics, and thus do not signify a different god.

the muslims also have a historical tie to juhdaism. it is simply a different massiah that they follow. therefor the being the same god thing is a little debatable there. obviously. (assuming they are wrong) they followed the same god we followed, and then were led astray by a false massiah. however the god himself was origionaly the same.

only a minor amount of muslims preach to destroy the infidels. most are peacful. AS I SAID. i know many muslims personaly and they are great people. it says in the koran to be peacful and not hate and destroy ans such.

We can go back and forth all day on this. In many contexts one could say they're the same or basically the same, but not in this context. When you add up how Bush is caught worshipping virtually every god he could find, and then how he insists that he worships Allah I'd say this is far different from the average Christians generalizing them as being the same creator God. The whole point is how Bush behaves more like an esoteric Freemason than someone who worships Jesus.

And, according to esoterics the main god of every known religion are all the same. Following Bush's exaple why not just worship everything and every ancient god we can dig up?

O, and I forgot to mention how he worships Molech at the Bohemian Grove:
http://www.infowars.com/bg1.html

Here you see a smug George W. Bush with his father, Bush Senior (taken in 1995) giving what they call a "lakeside chat" at the Grove. This page also shows Newt Gingrich, another member. The talks are given no less than a dozen yards from the stone idol where "mock" human sacrifices take place. This is the same idol you see featured above in the Cremation of Care ceremony photo