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Country: SE
Signup Date: 6/18/2006
Tuesday, August 11, 2009 
SHINING FORCED TO CANCEL EUROPEAN TOUR

Swedish extreme metallers SHINING have today issued the following statement regarding the cancellation of the forthcoming European tour:

“Due to the action, or rather the lack of action, of the Metal Maniac agency in Romania, who were booking the tour, SHINING is very disappointed to announce that the Destroying Europe 2009 tour is no longer able to go ahead.

With only a few days to go before the tour was due to start, we discovered that some of the bands have still not received contracts, tour riders etc., and most disturbing of all, we found that there were no tour buses for the tour because the promoter, Florin Sandor, had not paid for them. Without transport, the bands cannot go anywherel. When we contacted the tour bus company, who, we stress, are completely blameless in all this, we found that not only had he not paid them, he had also not given them any details of the tour – bands, people travelling, itinerary etc. We can only speculate as to why he never bothered to give them even the most basic information. In addition to this we have still not received the promised funds to enable us to transport all our equipment from Sweden to the pick up point.

Over the last few days all the bands have repeatedly been in contact with Sandor, and we have all received a litany of excuses, that have included everything from personal problems to venue cancellations, but despite asking him to please sort it out, he has made no attempt whatsoever to salvage the situation. It has now reached a point where he either keeps his phone switched off, or he just doesn’t answer. Things can go wrong, everyone knows that, and we have given him plenty of opportunity to try and make things right, but when it’s avoidable, which this was, and bands and fans have to suffer as a consequence, then it is unacceptable.

Every single one of the bands on this tour were really looking forward to it, and are extremely disappointed that it had to come to this. Not only for ourselves, but also for the fans. We receive messages all the time from people saying how much they are looking forward to seeing us play, and we can only say to them that we will try our hardest to arrange something for the future.

We stress that this is a blow to all the bands involved. Very few bands make a living, or even close to a living, out of their music. No band ever wants to cancel any live appearances, let alone a tour. Many people don’t realise just how damaging a cancellation actually is. The financial losses to a band in terms of merchandise sales, even more so when merch is produced specifically for a tour; preparation costs, hire of rehearsal rooms, and loss of revenue from other appearances that had to be turned down to accommodate a tour, are considerable, and something that most bands cannot afford. Additionally, most band members also have day jobs, and alternative arrangements have to be made. In a lot of circumstances these arrangements cannot be un-made, and members are unable to then take more time off to go on another tour. All this can have devastating effects, especially to any bands that have staked a lot both financially and promotionally on such a tour. The worrying thing is that this seems to be happening more and more often these days. Bands have to put their trust in promoters to do the job they’re supposed to do, when this trust is betrayed, it leaves a bitter taste in everyone’s mouth.

We would suggest that anyone who has any queries regarding any aspect of this tour, they should contact Florin Sandor directly. His details, which at the time of writing were openly available on the Metal Maniac MySpace page, are as follows:

METAL MANIAC AGENCY
Florin Sandor
Phone + 40726260610
Email booking@metalmaniac.ro
MySpace: www.myspace.com/metalmaniacro
Website: http://metalmaniac.ro



Dan, \m/ Death Unites Us \m/
Dan Nordlöf

 
såna personer ska ha en smäll på käften!
 
Posted by Dan, \m/ Death Unites Us \m/ on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 4:35 PM
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ZeeZak
Zak Hudson

 

That sucks.

yeah, most people do have a day job. I know i cant take off work for along period of time, and if i did get to go on tour with my band, it would have to be a short time sadly.

Sorry to hear that guys, hope the financial problem didn't happen to you.

 
Posted by ZeeZak on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 4:35 PM
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Diana
Diana Chavdarova

 
Shit

 
Posted by Diana on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 4:35 PM
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Sänne

 
Very sad news... these things keep happening way too often.

 
Posted by Sänne on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 4:35 PM
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H_E_L

 
It's not the first time this guy fucks it up!! Good thing I didn't get to take my days off from work for the concerts in Romania. Next time make sure to get in touch with a proper booking agency.. Or ask other people to make sure it's not a hoax. I'm really dissappointed with this, I was really looking forward to it ..

 
Posted by H_E_L on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 5:33 PM
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Stefan

 
Ar trebui ca de azi inainte rockerii din Romania sa anunte trupele de seriozitatea si profesionalismul individului asta...trist ca a fost lasat sa futa meciul a doua oara
 
Posted by Stefan on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 6:08 PM
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Roxana
Roxana Gheorghiu

 
Sau a treia? Prima era cu Agathodaimon si Saturnus, la care a vandut bilete, si cica l-a reprogramat, iar a doua a fost cu Graveworm si Lord Belial, pe care nu i-a platit, etc, nu intru in detalii, dar am postat un blog referitor la turneul anulat pe www.metalhead.ro

 
Posted by Roxana on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 7:33 PM
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Teigiger Steinkringel [Stächelbeere ♥]
Alö R.

 
Oh nooo..... :(
 
Posted by Teigiger Steinkringel [Stächelbeere ♥] on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 5:33 PM
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Dries
Dries Oger

 
..Does that mean that the gig in Tilburg (Holland) is also cancelled?..
 
Posted by Dries on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 5:33 PM
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Follow The Freezing Moon

 
This is sad for everyone involved. Your words here are SOooo true. These promoters have NO idea what is like for any band. In there eyes they think national known bands like yourselves, are living the lifestyle of millionares and in reality...your living like the rest of us.

Hope everything goes well for all the bands involved.
 
Posted by Follow The Freezing Moon on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 5:33 PM
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Stefan

 
..Man this really fucking blows!....
....
..Let this be a lesson learned for Shining and all bands involved in this fiasco. Never EVER book a tour with an agency who has no credentials, let alone one ran buy a guy who's already fucked up big time before!..
....Conny, I told you guys that this was shady just a few days after you announced the tour. It just made no sense...as soon as I saw the towns they were playing in Romania I thought it was ridiculous, it was really out of reach for everyone...and when I found out who was behind it...oh well...lets just say everyone who knew of this guy (isn't he still in high school??) had a bad feeling.....
....I'm just happy Doru brought you guys to Brasov and at least you have a decent memories about Romania, it's not all bad. Hopefully you'll be back.....
....And since we're here, when the hell are you guys coming to the states?? ....
....Urgehal is coming and not Shining?? WTF??....
....
.... ..
 
Posted by Stefan on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 6:08 PM
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SHINING (OFFICIAL)

 
I know whT YOU TOLD ME BUT EVERYONE NEEDS A SECOND CHANCE AND SINCE HE DID ALL MY DEMANDS + A LEGAL CONTRACT I THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE OK, YOU KNOW...YOU CANT SAY NO TO EVERY NEW PROMOTOR THAT CONTACTS YOU!
BUT SURE WE WILL BE MORE CAREFUL THE NEXT TIME SOMEONE CONTACTS US!

WELL, AS SOON AS WE GET A DECENT DEAL IN US WE WILL BE THERE!

TAKE CARE MY FRIEND!

 
Posted by SHINING (OFFICIAL) on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 6:54 PM
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Neil Hatton

 
that's a terrible way to go about business, not just business but also it's a terrible way to treat anybody, especially as you say, bands that are far from wealthy and may have staked everything on such a tour.

 
Posted by Neil Hatton on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 6:44 PM
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DREAMTIDE MUSIC - management & booking agency

 
Shitty news, too many unprofessional agencies out there. The booker is of course blaming the band, classic case... ..http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=198621992&blogId=505024071..


 
Posted by DREAMTIDE MUSIC - management & booking agency on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 7:32 PM
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Christina Kratsch
Christina Kratsch

 
fuck for these!!!!! Do your job Mr.Sandor!!!!!!

 
Posted by Christina Kratsch on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 8:09 PM
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N.D.E.

 
..Oh no !!!!!! I bought my tickets for the Tattoo the mind fest last week... I was so happy to see you again on stage !!! This gig is also concerned ????? ..
 
Posted by N.D.E. on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 8:15 PM
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SHINING (OFFICIAL)

 
No.  Tattoo The Mind is totally different and was never part of the tour.  Shining will be there!
 
Posted by SHINING (OFFICIAL) on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 8:16 PM
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Fenrir

 
Guys, when you announced this tour in the begining of the spring, a lot of people told you to stay away and to do not get in bussiness with this scum. This is what you get, when you mess with this kind of mortals...
 
Posted by Fenrir on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 9:18 PM
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N.D.E.

 
Oh thank God !!!

But it's really sad for you and your european fans ! I'm sorry for you !

Take care and see you on october my friend !!!
 
Posted by N.D.E. on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 9:18 PM
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LFO
Jernej Rejc

 
OH, F**K! I was really looking forward to that concert!
Goddamn agency! Like it is stated above, this happens
quite often.. my friend is a local promoter and he
was just telling me about the same shit with some romanian
agency, but i'm not sure it is the same.. f**k this sh*t 

 
Posted by LFO on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 9:53 PM
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Dave

 
..Fark! Been there before, not the exact same circumstance, but getting fucked over by promotors. Its bullshit, and really destroys any kind of enjoyment you may have gotten from playin' the gig/tour. ....Also, whats the likelyhood of you chaps headin' down to Australia? I think you'd do well here for sure. Anyway, take it easy lads.........Dave...
 
Posted by Dave on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 11:10 PM
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†ChrisKeeper†
Christopher Hausa

 
Ahhh what a whole heap of fucked offness, I hope something works out for everybody fans and the bands, this is just plain inexusable on this agency's part.....
 
Posted by †ChrisKeeper† on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 6:10 AM
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Euan

 
yes, come to Australia! Promoters have slightly more integrity in Australia.
 
Posted by Euan on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 6:11 AM
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Captain Suicide
Captain Suicide

 
America wants Shining
 
Posted by Captain Suicide on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 9:01 AM
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Eileen

 
That's awful, what a shitty thing to have happened. Come to Australia?

 
Posted by Eileen on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 9:01 AM
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Pezuzu ALDM/NYDM!!!

 
..Hey guys,
I'm so sorry to hear about the tour getting cancelled. It's saddening really, that so many tours/fests are being forced to not happen these days! And the underlying problems are usually due to one's lack of heart,responsibility, and commitment  to make  great things such as  tours/fests happen!
I truly hope that this very unfortunate happening hasn't affected your lives and plans too much! I hope to see you in the states someday!!!
Horns and Hails to you!

Profana..
 
Posted by Pezuzu ALDM/NYDM!!! on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 9:01 AM
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ADA
Ada succubus

 
..Check out our report on the matter (written in Romanian) ..http://www.bangyourbrain.com/index.php?op=show&id=1210&mr=Destroing_Europe_Tour_anulat._Shining_lanseaza_un_atac_la_persoana_promoterului_Metal_Maniac_Agency ..........Let us express our deepest regret! ..
 
Posted by ADA on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 2:58 PM
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HC
Chelu HC

 
What agency man ??? Sandor is a prick ... he only has the myspace page ...and that's it :) .
Like 2 years ago ...he's momma wouldn't let him have long hair :))) and i'm serious i know that from him   ...so what can' u expect from that guy ??? :))

 
Posted by HC on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 2:58 PM
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Năpasta
Tudor Năpasta

 
You are so right... We have also lost a lot of both money and time and we are extremely sorry about the cancellation of the tour. Hope we will share the stage with you guys some other time.

Tudor Năpasta, Ashaena

 
Posted by Năpasta on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 2:29 AM
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Dry My Tears

 
Fucking bookers! It's not the first time they drop you!
They should kill themselves for what they do (not) do.

Fuckers. Hope you'll sort it out.
Cheers

 
Posted by Dry My Tears on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 1:38 PM
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Srég

 
Damn you not coming to Hungary I was really looking forward to it. As a musician myself I can understand that it is hard to choose a good promoter, it's like lottery most of the time. I mean I have worked with previously totally unknown promoters from abroad and everything was fine... Sad that you came across an asshole, hope you have better luck next time!

 
Posted by Srég on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 11:29 AM
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Equinoxio

 
..Same situation happened to us, and your words describes exactly what the members of a band have to deal with in order to go on tour....Best of luck to Shining in the future..
 
Posted by Equinoxio on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 11:30 AM
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SW/OC (Slash without Cash) ;)
Witkacy Bezczelny

 
..Really sad news for all of us, waiting for you guys!!!
I know this is not bands fault that tour is cancelled. All Fans in Poland are dissapointed. I hope that you will take into consideration Bydgoszcz next time too.
Hope eveything will be ok with Shining, Gwydion, Sarkom, Finsterforst.
Take care.


..
 
Posted by SW/OC (Slash without Cash) ;) on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 11:32 AM
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Nepo
Low .

 
Hope you come in Marseille in 2010.

 
Posted by Nepo on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 5:05 PM
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Seelenbrand

 
Damn... I wanted to see you yesterday in Dresden/Skullcrusher

 
Posted by Seelenbrand on Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 4:23 PM
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AWAKEN booking

 
Hey Niklas, I've told you at the beginning that this romanian guy already fucked up many tours, shows...Pity man, Serbian maniacs really wanted to see you here!

WAR666!

 
Posted by AWAKEN booking on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 5:16 PM
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Daniel

 
vilken idiot

 
Posted by Daniel on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 5:16 PM
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Janislav messimüppi~ [sixteenbit]
Janis S.

 
this is absolutely brutal... i know how hard it can be for musicians, especially small bands, without gigantic labels and contracts in their back and without huge sales and much money. may this can split a band or force some musicians to even sell their equipment or let their music die, because the financial crisis has to be carried on THEIR shoulders and they have to work a lot for example... i know how fast this can happen...

i feel sorry for both musicians, you, and fans who spent money for the tickets and now are looking like very depressed...

this is just poor i think
........
 
Posted by Janislav messimüppi~ [sixteenbit] on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 11:45 PM
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Jim K

 
oh fuck fuck fuck,come on you guys we want to see you live again....come to Greece!

 
Posted by Jim K on Friday, August 21, 2009 - 3:47 PM
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John
John Diner

 
fuckkkkkk.id like to go..........>:-(
 
Posted by John on Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 6:09 PM
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Antihero

 
DAMNIT! thanks for the explanation.

 
Posted by Antihero on Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 1:27 AM
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DEaD COunTeSS
Dead Countess

 
very disapointed ......

 
Posted by DEaD COunTeSS on Monday, August 24, 2009 - 10:49 AM
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Jeff

 
you guys coming to america anytime soon?

 
Posted by Jeff on Friday, August 28, 2009 - 3:29 PM
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