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Wednesday, December 03, 2008 

Category: Blogging

hola.....

well, godammit.
it looks like one person's innocent belly picture:
has turned into a mass movement of belly love.
i love belly love.

someone has started up an official "Rebellyon" website.
and there are over 300 bellies up at the thread (that is SEVENTY pages long, holy shit) on the shadowbox:
www.theshadowbox.net/forum/index.php?topic=6054.0

check this:


dammmmmmmn!!!!!!!!

who'd have thunk it.
this is why i fucking love you guys. i couldn't have thought this up in a million years. righteous.


a bunch of feminist blogs have posted about this fine phenomenon of belly pride...
http://www.thefword.org.uk/blog/2008/11/female_artists_1
http://www.feministing.com/archives/012421.html
http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2008/12/impossibly-beautiful.html


and the guardian UK just ran a piece on it...holy shit....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/dec/03/dresden-dolls-roadrunner

....but some of them got the label story wrong.

so let me clarify, on the record, so shit is straight:
i am still on roadrunner records.

some of you may be curious about how this all works, so i will try to simplify.

in 2003, i signed a contract that bound us together to make 3 records with 4 options
(meaning the label could opt to drop me after each release, but i couldn't leave of my own free will).

the first record was The Dresden Dolls.
the second record was Yes, Virginia.

they didn't count No, Virginia against our contract (sad long story).

Who Killed Amanda Palmer was the third.

i had put a solid year of my life and $80,000 of my own savings (that will never be paid back by the label - another long sad story) into this record.


right before the european tour i went to the new york offices of roadrunner to say hi and check in.
my a&r guy (my main contact at the label) sat me down in his office and said he wanted to discuss the "leeds united" video.
he told me that there were certain shots that they wanted to either cut completely or digitally alter to "be more flattering".

my favorite quote from that meeting:
"i'm a guy, amanda. i understand what people like."

to which i reply: where have you been for the last five years?
do you have any idea who i am, what band i've been in, what kind of music i write, who my fans are....who didn't send you the memo that i'm not britney spears? i'm not TRYING to look hungry. i'm trying to look HOT. there's a difference.

the big irony here, like i said before, is that i am totally vain about shit like this.
i will be the first one to run screaming from photos where my fat little belly is rolling over my jeans and taking center stage.
i've been mistaken for pregnant so many times. it's always funny. AND embarrassing. i was born with a fat little belly and i love wine. there's just no changing things,
unless i want to live on salad. and i love salad, but not all the time. i also like pasta. even when the rest of my body is JACKED, RIPPED and SLAMMIN',
my fat little belly happily stays in place. it's just so.
i am used to it. and i have learned to Love the Belly.
still, however proud i may be of it in it's natural state, it's still not something i go out of my way to flaunt.
but this video....i mean, look at it. there's just NOTHING there that anybody could really object to, even by MAINSTREAM standards.
so i was really perplexed. and i told the label i wasn't changing anything. they backed down.

a few weeks later i had a meeting with the owner of the label. he said he thought it was a shame that someone as smart and talented as me could not make a commercial record that they could sell. and he thinks that someday i'll see the light and write some better songs.

i told him i made exactly the record i wanted to make.

more than exactly. i think i've made an INCREDIBLE FUCKING record.
i really do.

he shook his head and felt sorry for me.

i feel sorry for them. they are trying to sell pieces of plastic in a digital world.
but they're barking up the wrong tree if they think they can katy perry or avril lavigne me into the walmarts of the world.
not into it.
never was.
sorry.
i never wanted to sell millions of records as my primary goal, nor did i want to be a pop star.
i am very fucking happy with what they sneeringly call my "cottage industry" life.

so i think the relationship is rather doomed, from a creative standpoint.

i asked to be dropped a few weeks ago, so i could move forward in freedom.
they refused.
they have until june to decide whether to drop me or not.

let us pray.

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Megan. [DF]
Megan Muloin

 
Yay, my belly is up there! Viva la rebellyon! <3
 
Posted by Megan. [DF] on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:06 AM
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NolanNarcolepsy™
Nolan Johnson

 
There seems to be rather big legal issues, you couldz maka da money =D

but do what you want, I love you AmandaFuckingPalmer =]

your my idol =D
 
Posted by NolanNarcolepsy™ on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:09 AM
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John in a Coma

 
Has anybody told you recently that you are fantastic?

Much Love,
John
 
Posted by John in a Coma on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:09 AM
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amanda qui

 
Love you Amanda
 
Posted by amanda qui on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:10 AM
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Sarah

 
It makes me very happy to see my belly in your blog. <3

You're amazing. I just got a hold of a copy of the Evelyn Evelyn CD and I could cry the second song is so beautiful.
 
Posted by Sarah on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:12 AM
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Finnley
Finnley Mae

 
This woman is Awesome! I love ya both!
 
Posted by Finnley on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 10:24 PM
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faye

 
You are the shit. :D
 
Posted by faye on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:42 AM
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paulakitten;
Miss Kitty

 
you win at life
 
Posted by paulakitten; on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:29 AM
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Kassandra

 
Disturbing?
I call i fabulous!
You're a real person and a real woman, women aren't supposed to be stick figures!
I think you're beautiful, and dont let other people's stupidity make you think differently.
 
Posted by Kassandra on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 3:06 AM
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CAMI, it's deleted! so don't add, duh.
C J

 
hell yes!!! when i saw your picture i smiled so big. your awesome.
 
Posted by CAMI, it's deleted! so don't add, duh. on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 6:02 AM
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John in a Coma

 
You make me smile.
 
Posted by John in a Coma on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:53 AM
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Jasmine*Nicole

 
fuck that noise! i can't believe how ridiculous that is. see you tomorrow in chicaaago whooo!
 
Posted by Jasmine*Nicole on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:13 AM
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Orlagh Rose
Orlagh Rose Stevens

 
I can see my belly up there!
That Guardian article is a big thing, that's really great! This whole thing is so exciting and inspiring.
Fuck RoadRunner, you/we have a mould to break...
 
Posted by Orlagh Rose on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:14 AM
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Sepiachord

 
We're proud of you.

All of us.

Just let us know what we can do to help.
 
Posted by Sepiachord on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:15 AM
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Mrs. Amanda Palmer
Krystalyn Perron

 
You write GREAT songs. I would rather listen to Gravity or Backstabber, Pierre or even fucking 672 than some prissy pop star like
Katy Perry that think writing songs about kissing a girl(OMG!) and naming songs 'Ur Gay' is what music is about.
At least you are a real fucking person.
We love you Amanda. You should set up a paypal for fans to donate to to reap back those huge losses. Im sure you'll be suprised how much we care :)
WKAP was a fucking amazing record, and Im sure it sold fine.
Tell Roadrunner to fuck themselves.
Fuck, Im pissed now.
 
Posted by Mrs. Amanda Palmer on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:16 AM
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ashley.
Ashley Mathews

 
not sticking up for katy perry or anything like that, and i do agree with you 100%, just wanted to say katy perry didn't write those songs.

they were written for her so she could be a "commercial success." most people in the music industry these days don't write their own songs. lol, ghostwriting.

yay, rebellyon!
 
Posted by ashley. on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 1:41 PM
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Hjorhrafn

 
I adore your music, but I respect the integrity you show again and again. Keep fighting the good fight.
 
Posted by Hjorhrafn on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:16 AM
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@wtfjohnnyboy

 
oh my fuck.

$80,000?!


I seriously got a little dizzy when I read that.



VIVE LA PALMER.
and la belly.


She's doing it for the right reasons folks.
True fucking artist right here.
It's a shame that the best performer in the world today has to go through this SHIT


Roadrunner, give it up.
She's leavin' your asses.


I fucking love you mandy,
You have no idea.
I mean you REALLY have no idea.


xjohnny
 
Posted by @wtfjohnnyboy on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:16 AM
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Pirate Jenny

 
You did make an incredible fucking record. They don't deserve you. Vive La Rebellyon!!!
 
Posted by Pirate Jenny on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:18 AM
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Claire

 
I am going to paint my belly for your conert and flaunt it.
Don't care what people think.
See you in Chicago!
 
Posted by Claire on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:20 AM
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Abagail [Secret Soulmagent O Pain No1]

 
My belly is the sixth belly in the Shadowbox gallery on Rebellyon. :D
I love bellies.
I think every belly shot is fucking sexy.
Long live the belly.
And long live music for the sake of music, not of popularity.
You are really amazing and strong. :D

Love,
Abagail
 
Posted by Abagail [Secret Soulmagent O Pain No1] on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:21 AM
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Jordan

 
Never, never change, Amanda.
Don't change for a soul.
The world desperately needs more people like you.
 
Posted by Jordan on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:22 AM
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Jeremy
Johnny Utah

 
Wow, that's incredibly fucked up.

Fuck Roadrunner
and
Fuck Katy Perry
 
Posted by Jeremy on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:24 AM
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Rippy ɹǝɯןɐd ɐpuɐɯɐ pǝןןıʞ

 
Gotta love the bellies :D
It's hard to be confident about something like that especially since many people are very self conscious over little things, and once you get used to it and learn to love it, someone tries to destroy the confidence that you've built with yourself. They're fucking ridiculous. Good luck.
 
Posted by Rippy ɹǝɯןɐd ɐpuɐɯɐ pǝןןıʞ on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:24 AM
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Linnea
Linnea Hall

 
i actually really don't think your belly is fat. honestly, you make me feel good that i don't have to look airbrushed everyday in school. you remind me that people can make it without being completely fake. you look like a real person.
i really admire you for that and i wish i could be as strong.
 
Posted by Linnea on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:25 AM
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paulakitten;
Miss Kitty

 
the rebellyon looks fantastic. thses two kudos goes to everyone in the rebellyon... sorry, but you'll all get like a hundredth of a kudos each.




i would join if i had a belly... i do not, but i am gorging myself on super fudgy ice cream to fix that. and oh. wow. what the hell, rr. this makes me mad. and sad. smad. i am very smad at roadrunner right now. i doubt you can write much better songs, amanda.

i have your cd, it is on top of my cd stack, and i will kiss it to say ha ha road runner it sold.




btw mega ily to the 'MY BELLY IS FULL OF WIN' person.




keep fighting the belly-riffic fight amanda &rebellyon
 
Posted by paulakitten; on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:26 AM
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Christopher Scott
Christopher Matthews

 
It's so sad artist are forced to deal with people who don't understand what they are doing. You did put out an amazing album, I love it, and so many out there think the same thing, the REAL people, not the ones sitting in offices trying to figure out a way to turn a profit. I am so thankful that you did put up your own money to make this record, because it's a gift you've given us. Not many things bring a smile to my face in this world, but when I picked up a copy of the album, ripped off the plastic, and playing the record, I couldn't stop listening and it made me smile. So thank you for that, I don't think I could be more grateful. And you're way hotter than the "avril's" or the "Katy's" of the world ;) if I might say so myself!
 
Posted by Christopher Scott on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:27 AM
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disastergirl!™

 
i still have a belly shot to upload.

anyway, amanda, as i've said before, roadrunner can shove their money and their need for "commercial success" up their FAT asses.

you don't need them. you're amanda fucking palmer. you are a musical and lyrical genius, and you have some of the most endearing fans i've ever seen. no, really. if britney's spears's record company said "her belly was fat", most of her fans would see how many times they could read about it in a tabloid.
instead, we show oodles of support, and even take pictures of our own bellies. <3

that's real success.
and if roadrunner can't see that, then they're missing out.
[then again, it's all about the money anyway, right?]

amanda, we love you, and whatever happens, all of your fans will be here.
then again, i'm sure you knew that. XD
lovelovelovelovelove.
 
Posted by disastergirl!™ on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:29 AM
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Matt Qx Killed Amanda Palmer
Matt Bracaglia

 
I Totally Agree. I Love Bands That Are Not Like MEGA FAMOUSE. It Makes It More Personal. Like The Bands I Like Are So Personal, Thats Part Of What Draws Me To Them. Its Awesome, And So Are You. DONT EVER CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Matt Qx Killed Amanda Palmer on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:31 AM
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Danielle

 
Gosh forbid someone made a record with humans human emotions...

Cottages are damn cosy. Let's light the fire and turn up the volume.


xxx
 
Posted by Danielle on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:32 AM
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Linnea
Linnea Hall

 
i'd put my belly up, but, sadly, it's actually messed up due to a post-breakup incident. stupid things that teenagers do.
i love your music, though. the first time i heard it i was entranced. i can't wait to get some of your albums for Christmas.
 
Posted by Linnea on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:33 AM
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AIR

 
your belly is beautiful and wine is great...if you are happy then fuck everyone else who gets in the way of that...justkeep the bills paid and you're good...peace,love,unity,and respect
cory
 
Posted by AIR on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:34 AM
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Lilli

 
Before AFP and the rebellyon, I would have been mortified to see my belly on the internet.
But just now, I squeed in delight when I saw mine up there with all of those other beautiful bellies. Thank you for helping me love the belly, Amanda!

Also, may I just say that your resolve and I-pity-you-Now-fuck-off attitude is inspiring? I want self-assurance that could allow me to hold my ground like that.

"i told him i made exactly the record i wanted to make."
That's why it's so fucking incredible. It's exactly what YOU wanted to do (which also makes it what your fans want to see). Maybe someday Roadrunner will get it, but I'm not holding my breath.
 
Posted by Lilli on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:34 AM
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Jessie Maims

 
'i'm a guy, amanda. i understand what people like.'

"People," in this case, as in all cases, is a synecdoche for "male people." (Going further, male heterosexual people, who are very likely white as well.)

These are the same dudes who don't include 3-dimensional women (as the artist or the focus, instead of the scenery) in commercial media because they market to "people," not "women." Ridiculous.
 
Posted by Jessie Maims on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:34 AM
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casie eujean
cassandra lewis

 
right on, i couldn't have said it any better. :)
 
Posted by casie eujean on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 3:57 AM
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Di!

 
You say IT LIKE IT IS! i love you Amanada and if they dont love you then they need to get themselves checked and the belly thing is the most beutifull thing in the world i have a fat little belly too i eat to much cookies like santa.
>3
-di
 
Posted by Di! on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:36 AM
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me

 
YOU. ARE. AWESOME.
;]
 
Posted by me on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:36 AM
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Winter Arcane
Winter Arcane

 
It's all pretty sad and ridiculous. I want a music industry where artists are allowed to be artists and and where artists are just happy to make an honest living doing something they love. Instead too many "artists" are more than willing to completely whore themselves for stardom and the record labels will always concentrate on milking those artists for whatever they're worth and trying to convince any genuinely unique and talented artists to be become another cow in their milking stable because they don't give a shit about the art...they just want the milk.

I'm glad to see you refuse to let them treat you like another set of tits to milk.
 
Posted by Winter Arcane on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:36 AM
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K. HOUSE

 
Amanda, don't ever fucking change. You are amazing.
 
Posted by K. HOUSE on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:36 AM
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House of Dissection

 
"they're barking up the wrong tree if they think they can katy perry or avril lavigne me into the walmarts of the world."


hee hee.. you're in already in the Walmart I shop at. .....seriously.
 
Posted by House of Dissection on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:36 AM
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Truth and Beauty Bombs

 
I do hope you get what you want its fucking ridiculous that they want to turn you into a cookie cut pop star. Its a sad world that we live in and people like you are our only hope. Good luck and keep kicking ass.
 
Posted by Truth and Beauty Bombs on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:37 AM
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Thomas S Brown-Copper Age
Thomas Brown

 
ye..gods Amanda!

That's..beyond terrible!
(no not you belly. THAT is altogether lovely! Likewise "Who Killed' which i have been listening to at least once a day since you were kind enough to sign my copy. i love it....vastly!)


what i'm referring to of course is the..coprpotae cave man disrespect and..outright ignorance of the people you are dealing with!

Praying currently.

this is not something you should have to put up with. (understatement)

THANK you for the music!

Much love and respect from here!

tom
 
Posted by Thomas S Brown-Copper Age on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:37 AM
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Heather

 
Roadrunner LET MY PEOPLE GO!

I hope you have a good atty to kick some RR ass!
 
Posted by Heather on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:38 AM
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Michael
Michael M

 
Thank you thank you THANK YOU for being in this finicky industry for the creative aspect and not giving into the business side. That makes me love and respect you even more than I already do. Also, thank you for creating fantastic piano music. You're an inspiration every time I sit down and write.

-Michael
 
Posted by Michael on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:38 AM
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product of a sick society
Thai Dhai

 
you are fucking amazing. makes me wanna just adore my own body. KEEP YOUR MIND!
 
Posted by product of a sick society on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 3:49 AM
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Magna _Massacre: F@"< :@
Magna nuttycombe

 
amanda u are what roadrunner needs if they freaking remmber there nan alturnitive recordlable and not freaking virgin or sony BMG they should look at the other bads they used to sign n see why people liked then insted of only signing bands that will get there sales into the milloions stupid ass people at the top sublimanaly distroying the lil people . i hope they let u free so u can continue to spred ur wings and fingers crossed make man many more albums to say fuck you to the world with :D love every song uv donea

xVxVxmagnaxVxVx
 
Posted by Magna _Massacre: F@"< :@ on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:41 AM
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Sleeps With Swords
Zhahira Yaremko

 
Fuck yes, I see my belly.

And you are beautiful in every way.
And your record is beyond incredible.
And they obviously don't know what they're doing.

And I once thought I was a little fat - I mean, I am. I knew that when my mother stopped saying I was still in my "chubby" phase.
And I wanted to lose just a little bit of weight.
But, fuck that. After hearing all of what you say, I'm keeping this motherfucker. I love it now, actually. I feel awesome.
 
Posted by Sleeps With Swords on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:43 AM
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faye

 
You're awesome. Keep fighting. <3 You made a fantastic fucking record and you deserve some respect.

I think it's a ridiculous double standard anyway. Male artists don't get shit because they look scruffy or un-toned.
 
Posted by faye on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:47 AM
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Jard

 
Jeez, I just knew Roadrunner was a bunch of dicks. Fuck them, I think Who Killed Amanda Palmer is one of the best albums I've ever heard, and that it will continue to be so for years, which might not have been true if you had tried to make something you could "sell" instead of making the music you wanted to make.

And you did the right thing by making your own music. Because you're a musician, and you're a fucking good one. The record label are businessmen, not musicians. All they understand is profits. They're fucking useless, and good for you for not giving into that shit.

This is why you continue to inspire me. Fucking cannot wait to hear more of your music, doubly so if it's not on Roadrunner anymore. That is, unless they decide to start treating you how you deserve to be treated.
 
Posted by Jard on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:48 AM
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My Belly:
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Other belly's I have collected for this cause:
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