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Thursday, January 05, 2006 

Current mood:  bitchy
press here if everyone took the time to just stand up to this gang of satanic thugs and speak their mind....we would actually live in the greatest nation on this planet....as it is,most people are too busy fucking over other people to be troubled. bill o'riley is a fucking pervert. fuck him and fuck fox. anton alfred newcombe nyc 2006 "my president is a stupid piece of shit." Updated: With O’Reilly as Guest, Letterman Denounces Iraq War & Criticism of Sheehan Displaying a hostility to President Bush and the Iraq war similar to that expressed by Comedy Central’s Jon Stewart, on Tuesday’s Late Show David Letterman went further than I’ve ever heard him in revealing his derision for President Bush’s decision to launch the Iraq war and contempt for anyone who dares to criticize Cindy Sheehan. [This node, first posted at 10:45pm EST Tuesday based on a limited video clip preview of the show, was updated and substantially revised at 2am EST Wednesday.] Letterman normally tries to make the guest look as good and entertaining as possible. But he greeted FNC’s Bill O’Reilly with disdain. When O’Reilly urged an end to tagging Bush as a “liar,” scolded Cindy Sheehan for calling the insurgents “freedom fighters” and urged people to be “very careful with what we say" in disparaging others, Letterman took him to task: "Well, and you should be very careful with what you say also." Letterman demanded: "How can you possibly take exception with the motivation and the position of someone like Cindy Sheehan?" And he tried to discredit O’Reilly’s contention: “Have you lost family members in armed conflict?" When O'Reilly conceded that "no, I have not," Letterman castigated him: "Well, then you can hardly speak for her, can you?" Letterman mockingly recalled: "The President himself, less than a month ago said we are there because of a mistake made in intelligence. Well, whose intelligence? It was just somebody just get off a bus and handed it to him?" Letterman demanded: “Why the Hell are we there to begin with?" When O’Reilly pointed out that the British, Russians and Egyptians also presumed Iraq had WMD, Letterman retorted: “Well then that makes it all right?" Turning unusually serious, Letterman soon lectured: “I'm very concerned about people like yourself who don't have nothing but endless sympathy for a woman like Cindy Sheehan. Honest to Christ. Honest to Christ." That prompted O’Reilly to contend: “No way a terrorist who blows up women and children is going to be called a ‘freedom fighter' on my program." To which Letterman fired back: “I have the feeling about 60 percent of what you say is crap.” Video excerpt (3:35): Real (5.8 MB) or Windows Media (6.8 MB) Transcript follows. Letterman regularly has on guests from the mainstream media, but I’ve never heard him raise liberal bias with them, yet with O’Reilly he took the time to ridicule FNC’s motto: “This 'fair and balanced.’ I'm not sure that it's, I don't think that you represent an objective viewpoint." O'Reilly requested: "Well, you're going to have to give me an example if you're going to make those claims." Letterman then admitted he hasn’t bothered to watch the program he felt comfortable criticizing: "Well, I don't watch your show so that would be impossible." A transcript I put together of O’Reilly’s appearance on the January 3 Late Show with David Letterman on CBS, picking up after Letterman dismissed O’Reilly’s examples of hostility to Christmas: Bill O’Reilly: “I think that the Iraq thing has been full of unintended consequences and it’s a vital thing for the country and it's brutal, it’s absolutely brutal. We should all take it very seriously. This simplistic stuff about hating Bush or he lied and all this stuff, does the country no good at all. We've got to win this thing. You have to win it. And even though it's a screw-up, giant, massive, all right, right now, for everybody's protection, it's best for the world to have a democracy in that country functioning and friendly to the West, is it not?” David Letterman: “Yes, absolutely.” O’Reilly: “Okay, so let's stop with the lying and the this and the that and the undermining and let's get him. That is putting us all in danger. So our philosophy is we call it as we see it. Sometimes you agree, sometimes you don't. Robust debate is good. But we believe that the United States, particularly the military, are doing a noble thing, a noble thing. The soldiers and Marines are noble. They're not terrorists. And when people call them that, like Cindy Sheehan called the insurgents 'freedom fighters,’ we don't like that. It is a vitally important time in American history. And we should all take it very seriously. Be very careful with what we say.” Letterman: “Well, and you should be very careful with what you say also.” [audience applause] O’Reilly: “Give me an example.” Letterman: “How can you possibly take exception with the motivation and the position of someone like Cindy Sheehan?” O’Reilly: “Because I think she’s run by far-left elements in this country. I feel bad for the woman.” Letterman: “Have you lost family members in armed conflict?” O’Reilly: “No, I have not.” Letterman: “Well, then you can hardly speak for her, can you?” [applause] O’Reilly: “I’m not speaking for her. Let me ask you this question.” Letterman, referring back to O’Reilly’s examples of a war on Christmas: “Let’s go back to your little red and green stories.” O’Reilly: “This is important, this is important. Cindy Sheehan lost a son, a professional soldier in Iraq, correct? She has a right to grieve any way she wants, she has a right to say whatever she wants. When she says to the public that the insurgents and terrorists are 'freedom fighters,’ how do you think, David Letterman, that makes people who lost loved ones, by these people blowing the Hell out of them, how do you think they feel, waht about their feelings, sir?” Letterman: “What about, why are we there in the first place? [applause] The President himself, less than a month ago said we are there because of a mistake made in intelligence. Well, whose intelligence? It was just somebody just get off a bus and handed it to him?” Bill O’Reilly: “No.” Letterman: “No, it was the intelligence gathered by his administration.” O’Reilly: “By the CIA.” Letterman: “Yeah, so why are we there in the first place? I agree to you, with you that we have to support the troops. They are there, they are the best and the brightest of this country. [audience applause] There’s no doubt about that. And I also agree that now we’re in it it’s going to take a long, long time. People who expect it’s going to be solved and wrapped up in a couple of years, unrealistic, it’s not going to happen. However, however, that does not eliminate the legitimate speculation and concern and questioning of ‘Why the Hell are we there to begin with?’” O’Reilly: “If you want to question that, and then revamp an intelligence agency that’s obviously flawed, the CIA, okay. But remember, MI-6 in Britain said the same thing. Putin’s people in Russia said the same thing, and so did Mubarak’s intelligence agency in Egypt.” Letterman: “Well then that makes it all right?” O’Reilly: “No it doesn’t make it right.” Letterman: “That intelligence agencies across the board makes it alright that we’re there?” O’Reilly: “It doesn’t make it right.” Letterman: “See, I’m very concerned about people like yourself who don’t have nothing but endless sympathy for a woman like Cindy Sheehan. Honest to Christ.” [audience applause] O’Reilly: “No, I’m sorry.” Letterman: “Honest to Christ.” “O’Reilly: “No way. [waits for applause to die down] No way you’re going to get me, no way that a terrorist who blows up women and children.” Letterman: “Do you have children?” O’Reilly: “Yes I do. I have a son the same age as yours. No way a terrorist who blows up women and children is going to be called a ‘freedom fighter’ on my program.” [mild audience applause] Letterman: “I’m not smart enough to debate you point to point on this, but I have the feeling, I have the feeling about 60 percent of what you say is crap. [audience laughter] But I don’t know that for a fact. [more audience applause] Paul Shafer: “60 percent.” Letterman: “60 percent. I'm just spit-balling here.” O’Reilly: “Listen, I respect your opinion. You should respect mine.” Letterman: “Well, ah, I, okay. But I think you’re-” O’Reilly: “Our analysis is based on the best evidence we can get.” Letterman: “Yeah, but I think there’s something, this fair and balanced. I'm not sure that it's, I don't think that you represent an objective viewpoint.” O’Reilly: “Well, you’re going to have to give me an example if you're going to make those claims.” Letterman: “Well I don’t watch your show so that would be impossible.” O’Reilly: “Then why would you come to that conclusion if you don't watch the program?” Letterman: “Because of things that I’ve read, things that I know.” O’Reilly: “Oh come on, you're going to take things that you've read. You know what say about you? Come on. Watch it for a couple, look, watch it for a half hour. You'll get addicted. You'll be a Factor fan, we'll send you a hat.” Letterman: “You’ll send me a hat. Well, send Cindy Sheehan a hat” O’Reilly: “I’ll be happy to.”
Lukey vs the underprivellaged children of Sydney
luke folkard

 

I FUKKIN SAW THAT AMAZING INTERVIEW !!!!although it was 3 or 4 in the morning here

(i accidently caught it). i knew it! letterman is good. his serious interviews are always good!

 


 
Posted by Lukey vs the underprivellaged children of Sydney on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 01:24
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Lukey vs the underprivellaged children of Sydney
luke folkard

 
i was kinda in shock as i was waking up and saw what i thought was a blurry o'rielly and letterman on the same TV screen. it was real though.....thanks for reminding me of what i saw this morning.
 
Posted by Lukey vs the underprivellaged children of Sydney on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 01:29
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Mello

 
I heard this. I love Garland Robinette, he's a great artist too.  Ray was the only one in command that sounded reasonable.  Cool to listen, again.
 
Posted by Mello on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 02:31
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Tara
Tara Fraser

 
Even if the intelligence was faulty, why didn't we give the UN a chance to finish the weapons inspection?
 
Posted by Tara on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 05:42
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Tara
Tara Fraser

 
FURTHERMORE (don't stop me I'm on a roll!), Cindy Sheehan's son was killed based on admitted faulty intelligence. Wouldn't anyone feel overwhelming anger about that? Wouldn't anyone want to speak out against it so that other parents wouldn't have to lose their children? Since we are fighting for democracy, doesn't that include being able to speak out against what you feel is unjust?
 
Posted by Tara on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 06:59
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Nikki

 

Couldn't help but post this:

 

Things Republicans Believe
 
Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for your recovery.

The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq.

Government should relax regulation of Big Business and Big Money but crack down on individuals who use marijuana to relieve the pain of illness.

"Standing Tall for America" means firing your workers and moving their jobs to India.

A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind without regulation.

Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary Clinton.

The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.

Group sex and drug use are degenerate sins unless you someday run for governor of California as a Republican.

If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.

A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, then demand their cooperation and money.

HMOs and insurance companies have the interest of the public at heart.

Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy. Providing health care to all Americans is socialism.

Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but creationism should be taught in schools.

Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him and a bad guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.

A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable offense. A president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands die is solid defense policy.

Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet.

The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but George Bush's driving record is none of our business.

You support states' rights, which means Attorney General John Ashcroft can tell states what local voter initiatives they have a right to adopt.

What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national interest, but what Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant.

Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist, but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.

 
Posted by Nikki on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 12:42
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Josh Latta
Josh Latta

 
I haven't seen Letterman in years. I guess I shoud start watching!
 
Posted by Josh Latta on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 12:48
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spirited_away

 
Hate the Letterman show, as it can be moronically repeatative
(the music the only good bit I watch) but it suprises me to read
that he actually said some things that bring a new found respect.
Good one Letterman. We all hate Bush and know the war was
completely ill-founded and 100% wrong and I'm glad he's in
agreement and good enough to say so.
 
Posted by spirited_away on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 17:14
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Variations on Sound

 
The United States has killed far more innocent people with their actions than "terrorists," or "insurgents."
 
Posted by Variations on Sound on Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 07:40
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Arizen
Eric Sizemore

 

y'think?  what, as a nation throughout the 200 years of our battles for independence, and foreign relations? or just in this most recent 'war' ?  Im not being sarcastic, either.  I just want to know if this is entirely accurate, it may well be, but more specific details should follow.  Patriotism is dead? Capitolism is fraud? Just asking, Im sure it's something many ponder... There are many sides to these stories, to which these little exerpts likely don't do justice, or really even acknowledge.... I think TMI just clogs up the pipeline, confuses the damn issue ... shrouding the golden real deal in dark obscurity like a philobuster before a bulwark- no keys to the city and ribbon cutting ceremony- no plaque and handshake for an award- no photos with the mayor- no champagne bottle-smashing christening ceremony ... just a prison of the mind and an empty construction site where people look like ants... nothing really gets done.   ???  


 
Posted by Arizen on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 00:07
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brian jonestown massacre
brian jonestown massacre Anton alfred newcombe fjordson

 
bad government fails badly...

george and his friends are baffoons.

end of discussion.
 
Posted by brian jonestown massacre on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 04:55
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Wendy
Wendy Romero-Sandoval

 
Eric,  what is TMI?
 
Posted by Wendy on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 03:37
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