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Tuesday, June 24, 2008 

Current mood:Bummed

To care or not to care?  That is the question that I think about most these days.  The question that I think is most important to pick a side on. 

But I'm torn. 

Does anything really matter?  Do we live in an objective world or a relative one, altering with your mood, perception, status, lot, species? 

Is following your passion most important?  Or is keeping your job simple, accumulating enough money just to relax and love and enjoy the most intelligent choice?  Or pursuing money, sacrificing a lot of enjoyment now, for perhaps the lap of luxury later?  And is that uncertain gamble worth the risk at all?

Goerge Carlin died this week.  The reason I became a comic is no longer alive.  I never met him.  Wished I could have.  I was lucky enough to see him live twice.  That was a real treat.  Heard he hung out at the Hermosa Beach Comedy and Magic Club a lot, and was offered a spot there for two years now, but was always too lazy to roll down.  I have just added something to the short list of regrets I have in my life.  It makes me want to kick myself.  But only sort of. 

Carlin was prolific as can be.  It inspired me.  But I've spent too many years saying that I gotta start bringing all the stuff I've written to the stage .  I have easily over ten hours of stuff I've written over the years, just standup alone, yet I have only a fraction of it polished for the stage.  Partly because I am lazy to some degree, partly because I have a bad work ethic, and partly because except during short bursts when on a production, I have never focused solely on comedy.  I focus on comedy every single day of my life.  Probabaly 30 percent of the time.  But I also focus on a lot of other shit.  Some high minded, some quite low.  But I have a wide variety of things that interest me, and that I can't seem to let go of doing.  

Usually I feel pretty bad about that.  That my varied focus is causing me not to live up to my potential.  But right now, with the passing of one of my heroes, I am torn between whether I should just let go, and be content with a less prolific comedic career.  I know that I have it in me to be great.  But I'm just not so sure anymore that I should.  That it's important to do.  I guess you should just do what makes you happy, but it's just hard to tell sometimes what that's gonna be.  You know since it ain't right in front of you.

I don't think I've written such a depressed thing in a long time.  I guess because I am depressed.  I am so deeply saddened by the death of such a vibrant alive sharp astute creative fertile hilarious brilliant genius of a man.  A man who inspired me to go from being a kid with a debilitating speech problem, to become a standup comedian, alone on a stage with a mic, entertaining people, sometimes by the millions.  And who taught me how to write and deliver standup comedy, by the brilliance of his example.  (Write: brutally, sharply, boldly, hilariously, satirically, cleverly, and with a good curse word whenever you need it.  Deliver: creatively, interestingly, excitedly, boldly, with force and confidence, patience and pause, different tones and voices, cadences and intonations.  And with a good curse word whenever you need it.)  And I wonder if I am letting him down.  I wonder if I'm trying to play in the big leagues after missing a lot of the practices.  And I wonder just how important it is to sacrifice so much peace and quiet for the tumult, noise, uncertainty, crazy hours, and permamently distracted brain, if in the end you die, and you are remembered by a one minute piece on the news mentioning your most famous bit and the influence you had on the worls, then immediately going to a story about whether a pregnancy pact at a mid west high school is a hoax or not. Who gives a shit?

And I guess that's the broader question too.  Who gives a shit, really, about any of it?  George Carlin, so many times I felt, said things, and hilariously proved points that I thought should have changed the world.  Once that thought spreads it'll change the world.   But it didn't really.  It didn't permeate our culture enough to change our actions.  And maybe comedy's not supposed to.  But I guess that's the question I'm asking.

Brett Gilbert official myspace page

 
I hear you, brother. Sometimes I feel I'm doing the same with acting, comedy and painting. It's all good. George is with "the big electron" as he called it.

 
Posted by Brett Gilbert official myspace page on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 11:16 PM
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Kevin Cease

 
Giving up only leads to more regrets. Look back on life with the thought of pride in how hard you tried, and accomplishments. So what if the news went to another story? I hope the news isn't part of what you hope to reach at death. The news is the biggest corporate program of bullshit out there today. Do you think Carlin cares about his obituary on the news? No. He cared about his message to the individual. And thats what you need to do. Work on sending his and your message to people personally. Don't just focus on the whole world at once, it's too big. George Carlin was a genius and doesn't have regrets, and thats because he did what he was passionate about. If he just gave up and worked some shit job, I don't think he would have been as good of a person. He never let laziness take him over and just cave in. He stayed independent and spoke against the forces that tried to pull him down. He gained allot of fans because of that, and to hear you say his message didn't really change anything is wrong and you know that. He got fulfillment out of what he did. Fulfillment comes from giving and making change, no matter how small or big you decide to measure it. It also comes from significance, which you have because you have allot of fans and friends. So start smiling and working your true feelings into your work, and don't let laziness take you down. Try something new and get creative. I know I wouldn't be happy if you let this get the best of you. I'm sure theres allot of others then, who agree with me.
I'm looking forward to working with you when the time is right!
 
Posted by Kevin Cease on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 11:18 PM
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ZeeLV

 
I have no answers for you, my friend. At least none as insightful as what you've just written. Just know that whatever you decide you need to do that you have friends who love you very much and who would support and encourage you.


Is comedy supposed to affect our culture enough to make a difference? Probably not. But what really does? Movies? TV? Money? We do what we do to make people happy and to make ourselves happy.


Just so you know, you make me happy, emo shit and all.
Love ya bud!
 
Posted by ZeeLV on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 11:20 PM
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Chad Zumock

 
This blog just inspired me. How about that? Something BEN GLEIB wrote.


think about it....
 
Posted by Chad Zumock on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 11:21 PM
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Jake Rubi
Jake Rubi

 
What a bunch of pansy-ass, relationship-column reading asshole friends you got!

What do you have to be depressed about?! After you get out of bed at 3pm, hungover from that crazy hooker party last night, go slam a beer, fuck your hot girlfriend, smoke a joint, and call me and tell me really - how could it get any better than this?

And if you're going to post about the death of a great man and speculate on the effect of his legacy you must ask yourself, what would George Carlin say if you could speak with him right now? Would he give you advice on your career? Perhaps you could squeeze some sage wisdom out of him - words from one of the greats... fuck, maybe he'd slam you and tell you to get the fuck off the mic; Tell you to just run the club and leave the comedy to the comedians. Naw... I know what he'd say.
Do you know what he would say Ben? He would say "Who the fuck are you?"
 
Posted by Jake Rubi on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 7:48 AM
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THE Woman

 
I've been living in a pit of depressive despair for about a year now--no steady job and thus an almost non-existent income, no friends, not much of an existence outside of sleeping and watching comedy (my stage time is about six minutes a week, if I'm lucky)--so I can tell you straight out: you need to appreciate the 30% that you say you give to comedy. And you have made enough of a name for yourself to where you get stage time much easier than other comics can.


We can ALL be more than we are, man. We all WANT to be more than we are. And yes, it does take a lot of work to get up to a Carlin-esque level of comedic success.


But you can't beat yourself up over not being the best comic in the world 24/7. We all have to do what we can do. Comedy in particular is reflective of this. You can't say that you, as a comedian, are necessarily better or worse than anyone else; each person's talents varies in comedy. Someone might be a lousy performer but a great writer, someone else might have incredible energy but is spilling out drivel, another person might look fabulous and be an airhead... whatever. You do what you are capable of, and you reach whatever heights you can.


Remember that a lot of success comes down to pure luck. Or as I am fond of quipping, "It's all who you know and who you blow.
"

And don't forget, Carlin rose to fame in an era where TV stations went off the air after a certain hour and entertainment options were limited. Back then, something as simple as a supporting sitcom role would make you a sell-out comedy star. Richard Jeni pointed this out in many interviews. To "make it big" in today's market, you've got to have some kick-ass promotions going on to shove your face into every aspect of society, and then build on that. It's an incredibly difficult uphill climb in today's entertainment environment.

 
Posted by THE Woman on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 7:52 AM
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Elizabeth Thorp - PHOTOGRAPHER
Elizabeth Thorp

 
J'ADORE!!!!
 
Posted by Elizabeth Thorp - PHOTOGRAPHER on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 7:53 AM
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Ben Gleib

 
Thanks so much to everyone for sharing their thoughts on this. And thanks for the kick in the ass. I pride myself in being a positive person but lately i've just found myself down a bit. I don't know exactly why, but i've just been hit with some harsh realities of the world recently, and i've lost sight of what makes me happy. In the last two months a dear old female friend of mine from college, commited suicide, such a sweet girl with a sweet smile and soul; Mitch Mullany, one of my first standup comedian friends, so hilarious and so kind to me, died suddenly of diabetic shock at age 39; a couple I am friendly with lost their child at childbirth; we all experienced the shocking death of Tim Russert, such a bright passionate kind honest soul; George Carlin, simply one of the most impactful, memorable people on earth, who has such an influence on my life; And my sweet 82 year old grandmother, the last grandparent I have, is basically bed ridden, suffers from severe dementia, and our family wonders how much time she has left on this earth. And it is just a large dose of reality to take. Combined with Carlin's own beliefs that there is no afterlife, and that the human species is doomed. Funny the way he says it, but I kinda believe he's right.
But I am relearning through all of this that we just must live in the moment, enjoy every single thing we do, and just feel lucky that we have, as George put it, "front row seats to the freak show."

You are all still right for kicking my ass about my bullshit whining. I am supposed to be a funny person by trade, but i use this blog sometimes to express my raw emotions, without trying to censor myself, even if my thoughts arent clear to me yet. And I'm ashamed about what I wrote. Who am I to complain about anything? I'm so fortunate and lucky to be living out my dream, and I have always derived such pleasure and satisfaction and sense of purpose from entertaining people, giving them a break from all this reality, and even sometimes through laughter making them see what we as a soceity may be doing wrong. It is the only purpose I ever truly wanted, I've never really questioned it in my life, and things in my career are going well, it's a crime to talk about whether it's worth it or not. It's ungrateful, stupid, and the opposite of how I should react when realizing how fragile life really is. Of course comedy is worth it. It's in my blood and it makes me happy and it's important to people.

Who the fuck am I is right. Carlin would probably say that. Objectively, I have no right to complain about a damn thing. But we all do exist through our own prism and we still all do feel the ups and downs of emotions in our own lives, so it's only natural that sometimes in life we will all doubt ourselves. I hope so at least. Next time I'll just try to get over it better and follow the commandment that was on Tim Russert's desk, "Thou shalt not whine."

But I'm especially sorry that I questioned whether Carlin truly changed the world. That was just some feeling sorry for everything bullshit, and I was not seeing things clearly. I know the news is corporate controlled really-don't-get-it-shit, but their coverage just bummed me out. Of course he changed the world. Not all of it, not to all the entrenched power hungry controlling elite or the brainwashed masses, but to millions of smart, passionate, caring, thinking people who were able to see through the bullshit and identify with the hilarious truths Carlin confronted us with. And as one small example, he certainly changed my life. And maybe if enough people keep speaking the truth, (and comedians doing it funny,) the world as a whole will begin to change.
Or maybe by other means! As Carlin said at the end of his Actor's Studio when asked what kids of things still give him hope...

"I hope we're interfered with again by the extra-terrestrials, and this time they help, you know, in a big way...This time they say we're gonna do another genetic thing. We're gonna do just like we did when we brought you people suddenly you had architecture, suddenly you could lift stones up and build a pyramid, suddenly you had a mathematics, suddenly you had all these things, you never had em, suddenly they appeared, we're gonna do that again, and this time, we're gonna help you folks again, I, I just, I hope that happens, because then all these dreams that I don't quite have for us, could come true. And that would be the best surprise I could get."

And even if the world doesn't change in our lifetimes, at least the ride will be more fun with the laughter.

GEORGE CARLIN
1937-FOREVER
 
Posted by Ben Gleib on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 9:05 AM
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CAroLAnne ♔

 
i love ya bud.


you have the right to vent. i give myself 24 hours to whine about shit and then move on. in that 24 hours, whatever i have to do to FEEL, is fair game. like the movie "elizabethtown" says about misery, "enjoy it, embrace it, discard it, proceed.
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you've gotten me through some low-feeling points and i only hope to do the same for you when you're feeling this way. i'm really glad we got to see tom petty together. it was just the most perfect timing for both of us to have our moods lifted.


as always, if ya need anything, call me. even if ya don't need anything, i'm always here and always will be.
:-)
 
Posted by CAroLAnne ♔ on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 8:37 PM
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