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City: RALEIGH
State: North Carolina
Country: US
Signup Date: 8/25/2006

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Friday, June 29, 2007 
Hey everyone—
Things are going well in the Burly Time world, and we're happy about that. The most recent development is an 8.4 and "recommended" status for Bowerbirds' Hymns for a Dark Horse on Pitchfork Media. You can read the great review here: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/43725-hymns-for-a-dark-horse.

Thing is, we've got a lot of great friends in great bands who haven't been as lucky as us, and they need help, like all bands, selling records on a national level. Hymns for a Dark Horse is going to do just fine, and we feel the same way about Burly Time. But we can't sign every band we love that needs help, but we'll at least respond to your e-mails before the biggest Web site in the world writes about you. It's common courtesy, and we just feel that strongly about music. But Insound, an online indie retailer who claims to be such a place and has claimed such for nearly a decade, isn't doing its job on this front. We reached out to them for weeks, and they never responded. This morning, they reached out in light of the review with a middling offer, which we have declined.



Hi Patrick—
After talking about it a little more this morning, we're going to
decline the consignment offer from Insound. I feel compelled to tell
you why, too, though you can stop reading now if you'd like, as I'm
sure you've heard it all before: We've been trying to contact you guys
for a few weeks now, and we hear back (actually, it wasn't a response;
it was a separate query!) this morning, after an 8.4 on Pitchfork. In
the past month, Bowerbirds have been written about all over the place:
John Darnielle called this the best debut he's heard in years; the
band was #6 at elbo.ws with TWO songs in the top 5; press from Paper
Thin Walls, Harp, Venus and upcoming words from Spin, Paste,
Popmatters, TONY and The Boston Globe; gushes from David at Continuum
Press. We've sold hundreds of copies of this disc through our Web
site, and the street date isn't for another two weeks. Still, after
repeated inquiries at Insound, nothing until today. That said, is
Insound really the leading voice in Independent music it claims to be?
What ground does Insound have its ear to? I know you're busy wading
through discs, but the guys that run this label—a music critic and
record store clerk—know how that feels. Doesn't it seem a bit
ridiculous that you have to wait for perhaps the biggest music Web
site in the world to recommend a record, and then offer us a middling
3-disc consignment offer because we're still contracting a
distribution deal? We're a small label with two releases from bands in
North Carolina. Thing is, the music is really fantastic, and there's
currently a headline review on the biggest music Web site in the world
with a link to your Web site, telling people to buy it. Perhaps that
you don't have it already or show any serious interest in carrying it
makes us look exactly like what we are— a small label with two
releases from bands in North Carolina. Or maybe it makes you guys look
massively out of touch with the people you aim to sell to and/or
represent.

We're passing on the 3-disc consignment, as it hardly seems worth it
too tie up three discs with no guarantee of sell from you guys while
people order several discs an hour on our Web site. But this isn't
about us: This is about the hundreds of fantastic bands out there
without even a chance for distribution. Who's representing them? Maybe
Aquarius, maybe Other, maybe Forced Exposure. Certainly not Insound.
We're eager to hear your thoughts.
Thanks a lot—
Grayson Currin and Brad Cook
Burly Time Records
Durham, N.C.
307 KNOX RECORDS

 
Hi,

Thanks for sharing this.

I will now stop the email overkill with them....whew, my wrists hurt.

Mel~
 
Posted by 307 KNOX RECORDS on Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 8:09 PM
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Ex-Members

 
Nicely put guys...I'm so sick of them flooding our inbox.

xoex
 
Posted by Ex-Members on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 6:24 PM
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Pronounced Day-vid

 
0. Yeah, I would suggest to any Chapel Hill band or artist -- reply to your emails, messages just the same. It take a quarter-second to say "thanks for liking us" if nothing more. Maybe if everyone who has an elitist attitude dropped it others in the universe would do the same. You might find yourself propel forward faster, too. This is a relationship building business - at least in the post-major-label-owned music world I see.

1. Insound has plenty of non-dolphin safe major label or distributed music -- so why it's considered an indie retailer is beyond me. It obviously just as much placates to the old regime industry at large, I mean obviously they are trying to make a buck off selling Arcade Fire records etc. too.

2. It's probably better to just accept some outlet's lame tardy ways and get Bowerbirds records out there -- for the odd characters that happen through Insound, searching or looking for it, better to have the 3 there to unload vs. expecting some better deal with them... Give em 3, it doesnt mean you have to keep supplying 'em. It woulda been better to CUT THEM OFF after showing them "look jay-holes, those 3 sold, we told you so".. better for Bowerbirds, better for those 3 that wanted their record and didn't go looking further or weren't able to discover it via search or something.

3. Pray to god you do sign every band you love and want to sign. As your status rises, just having a few others you love onboard could get them recognition. That might not cost you anything.

I just say, maintain positive forward progress. Everyone makes mistakes, Insound seems to be missing an opportunity. The day you lose distribution or they (your dist., congrats on that too) don't see enough sales or requests from stores to move product out - you might still want relationships with all these lame indie outlets that are still trying to take their cut and leverage major label stuff to offset the smaller indie stuff.

Just thoughts - all the best,

DK
 
Posted by Pronounced Day-vid on Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 4:29 PM
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Whale

 
btw, another site like elbo.ws but with more music
seekpod.com/music

 
Posted by Whale on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 3:36 AM
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