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	liane	Sorry Charlie have I missed out on some News. about India ?   Postado por liane em 26 set 09 sábado - 9:41 [Responder Comentário]

	ZMT	Liane, I was clueless too, but wanted to learn. This article seemed pretty informative http://www.cfr.org/publication/17474/indiaafghanistan_relations.html  It made sense to me...Pakistan and India are enemies, India and Afghanistan are friends...so Pakistan sees having the Taliban around as their best defense against India's influence in the region.  Am I close?   Reminds me of the Israeli situation...*we* want them to sit down and make a peace plan, but the tribal loyalty runs deep and the hatred has been stewing for centuries. I'll go out on a limb and assume that oil is involved somehow too.   Postado por ZMT em 27 set 09 domingo - 2:12 [Responder Comentário]

	liane	Thanks Jo for your link. In the meantime I..ve found more or less the same link only via a German search machine. WE seem to be "twins" in finding things we don..t know!LOL I think you are probably right with your opinion and not only oil but also there is talk of a big gas pipeline from India through Afghanistan to the western countries.Also India has "learned " about Colonialism from the Brits and will know how to  first exploit the country and then leave them to their own! I personally think Pakistan is the danger . If they would let foreign troops in to help them fight  the Taliban, they may be not extinguished but powerless.But Pakistan probably doesn..t want to get rid of the Taliban as they fear India , and India is one of the upcoming states, not only economically but politically.   Postado por liane em 27 set 09 domingo - 8:39 [Responder Comentário]

	Charles Shaughnessy Charles Shaughnessy	Good for you two! This is the kind of inspired digging and research and enquiry that just might save us all. If everyone used the resources available to us these days to get informed, we would be so much better off. And, yes...I think that's exactly what's going on in Afghanistan and that's why i think the involvement of India in any peace plan is essential.   Postado por Charles Shaughnessy em 28 set 09 segunda-feira - 12:35 [Responder Comentário]

	Angela	I've haven't heard anything about Afghanistan lately. I'm very much out of the loop.   Postado por Angela em 27 set 09 domingo - 1:28 [Responder Comentário]

	Carey Lenehan	If only....   Postado por Carey Lenehan em 27 set 09 domingo - 1:28 [Responder Comentário]

	BEVERLY BEVERLY Reddig	As the editorial  cartoon on the op ed page of our local newspaper-- shows a map of Afghanistan labeled " I'VE GOTTASCRAM"  and shows President Obama saying "--I've reassessed  my Afghan policy...I guess you're ahead of the curve again , Charlie--Too bad you don't have a direct line to the White House!!!  My opinion--we've probably done all we can there--let's get our people out --   Postado por BEVERLY em 27 set 09 domingo - 5:40 [Responder Comentário]

	Stephanie	Absolutely!   Postado por Stephanie em 27 set 09 domingo - 5:40 [Responder Comentário]

	Roxana Roxana Bennett	..I would like us to leave Afganistan too! The entire middle east, if possilbe!  After reading this blog, i was checking out some info.  Check out,  reuters.com!  It says that; some analysts see a risk of a new proxy war erupting in Afgan if we withdraw.  Indian influence will exacerbate regional tension and encourage Pakistani couter-measures. Does seem like a rough situation that we have gotten into!  The military probably should try and focus on some limited strides!  Hoping there will be a chance for us to leave!..   Postado por Roxana em 27 set 09 domingo - 5:40 [Responder Comentário]

	Roxana Roxana Bennett	..Wanted to add some more info from this website!  Reuters breaking news says, that the U.S. comittment to the war will be crucial in the attitude of the Pakistan army.  If they know that we have  a withdrawl date, they will be reluctant to help.  I know this is hard for us to take and the idea of sending more troops is heartbreaking! Guess that our leaders could be between Iraq and a hard place! (maybe bad time for a joke)   ..   Postado por Roxana em 27 set 09 domingo - 8:39 [Responder Comentário]

	Brenda Duff	I'm still not sure what the interest is there other than to flush out the Al-Qaeda and keep them from having a place in a strategic area to build enlistment for their hate war...maybe the trade route? I talked to a cab driver from Afghanistan last year and he told me that he had to come here because it was so difficult to live in peace there...he stressed that the people really want to just live in peace. I would like to hear more of what the people have to say from these countries... Footnote:  Interesting that Alexander the Great died in Babylon.   Postado por Brenda Duff em 27 set 09 domingo - 5:57 [Responder Comentário]

	*~Sunshine~*	.. ....Hello Brenda, and everyone else, I'm thinking along the same lines as you. We, the US went to Afghanistan to flush out osama.. That hasn't happened yet. Dead or Live, was the mission. If we leave, then we've failed, because if you believe that osama did 911, then he's still on the loose. I think that's pretty cut and dry. We are not there to free the people there, or change their type of government, we are there to get osama. If we leave without completing our mission, then why did we go? Also all those men and women would have lost their lives for nothing. Like Vietnam, we went without a clear picture of what we were going there for, or how to get the job done. Bush promised that Iraq would not be another Vietnam, and in the same vain, Afghanistan too. And in many ways, it has become another war we're going to leave undone.   Not because we cant do the job, but because there  is corruption and stupidity at every level of our government. I would not want my son to go and die, or lose a limb, because they cant get it right. I worked to hard to have him, and raise him, to hand him over without expecting 100% responsibility on the governments part. That's how I'm feeling anyway.. ..   Postado por *~Sunshine~* em 01 out 09 quinta-feira - 7:16 [Responder Comentário]

	Brenda Duff	..Hi Lee, I don't like war either - I believe that there is more than 'we the people' know about Afghanistan.........Srgt. York was a consciensous objector before he ended up serving in World War I.  It is said that he "just wanted to stop those guns".........With Osama and his followers it is more than guns, it their mission to wipe out non believers.  The group, however small or large is bullying people of their own countries to follow them or face mutilation or death.........Remember the commercial recently with the little kid in the playground being harrassed by a bully?  His friends surrounded him and the bully backed away - no fighting - just presence. For whatever mutipulative reasons some in government positions all over the world have that are participating in these conflicts - my comfort is in knowing that we are surrounding bullies who are not going to stop at their borders but will and have crossed over ours and others. The opinion of Americans are heard around the world - we can object to war - but if we don't also support our troops and those that are making a presence - we are a country divided against itself to them - we've made mistakes in past wars - but the heart of our people needs to show up stronger than our differences.  Not only to the bullies, but to the manipulators. ..........   Postado por Brenda Duff em 01 out 09 quinta-feira - 4:44 [Responder Comentário]

	Tetsa	There have been so many deaths in Afghanistan both US and other Countries. Perhaps we should not send over the extra 21,000 troops, but it seems our Military Commanders want the troops. Therefore, it might look we will be involved in the long run. I worry about the fact that we can't get into Pakistan without their permission, and that is where the Taliban is gathering to fight and to train. It's a very frightful thought. I don't want to see anymore troops killed. I just can't take it anymore. However, how can we ever ensure the safety of our country. Look what just happened last weeks with the terrorists already in our Country ready to plant bombs. Luckily, there were undercover people these terrorists encountered. Will we be successful if we stay in Afghanistan? With what you said, Charlie, is history really repeating itself?  :(  For the sake of our beloved soldiers, I pray that success is bringing everyone home.   Postado por Tetsa em 27 set 09 domingo - 5:58 [Responder Comentário]

	Bev Bev Cole	..Probably a bit out of the loop regarding US policy at the moment. ....But I seem to recall in the early days of the Afghan conflict - someone mentioned some lucrative deposits of oil/gas  in the north and the control of the future pipeline was a part of the equation. Not sure if that's accurate information. ..   Postado por Bev em 27 set 09 domingo - 6:29 [Responder Comentário]

	Tetsa	If I remember correctly, it is China that will supply Afghanistan with oil. I heard this on George Stephanolopolis (? sp) this morning.   Postado por Tetsa em 27 set 09 domingo - 11:43 [Responder Comentário]

	Kerstin Kerstin Krause	The stucture in Afghanistan must be further supported by the people there give the possibility to how can live in peace and freedom. Not only are Amerikan soldiers were also killed , and only German and Italian soldiers. Every dead person is to be deplored in Afghanistan down his life for peace.   Postado por Kerstin em 27 set 09 domingo - 2:11 [Responder Comentário]

	Roxana Roxana Bennett	..The part about the Russians in Afghanistan reminded me of that song from 1989.  Billy Joel's, "We didn't start the fire!"  Stuck in my head now for the day, thanks Charlie!lol  But, the song is as true today, we didn't start this fire.  Terrorism did!  Turmoil in the middle east is not anything new.  My man was in; "Operation Desert Storm"! Which is not much in comparison to todays fighting!  My dad and uncle went to Vietnam.  My great uncles to Korea and WWII!  Seems that war is an unfortunate part of "everyone's" history!  And is going to "burn on and on" when we are gone.  Unless all us humans can imbrace peace.  For some unknown reason it seems in our makeup to fight or turn to violence when we are angry.  Maybe we have been to busy learning by the example of the history instead of from its mistakes! ..   Postado por Roxana em 27 set 09 domingo - 8:39 [Responder Comentário]

	ZMT	Roxana, please give your 'man' a big hug from me and thank him for his service. I'm not even sure that "terrorism" started it all(but then, I have a pretty strong "Biblical world view"). I know it sounded good when Bush said that 9/11 was an attack on "our freedom"(as if they hate us because we are free?)...no they hate us because we stand behind Israel. The radical Muslims have a "mandate" to convert the whole world for Allah, and if it means extinguishing those who don't believe, so be it. Christians are commanded to tell the Gospel of Christ, but we don't kill you if you say no(that whole pesky free-will business). Ariana can explain it much better than I can, so I hope she joins in...but they truly feel that they are on a mission from Allah to rid the world of infidels. When you add our support of Israel(whom they hate so much, they are willing to strap bombs on their own children and put a bull's eye on innocent civilians), it's an accident waiting to happen.   In other 'wars', we were fighting the enemy 'where they lived', now we are fighting a terrorist organization that is spread all over the world, in small cells. Pretty clever of them, if you think about it....like a twisted game of hide and seek. They are targeting countries who pride themselves on 'openness' and 'free-thinking' to build their network. Another issue that makes this difficult, is that we've always fought enemies who didn't want to die. Eventually, one side would become weak and want to end the suffering, and be willing to make concessions to end the war and save their own butts. Not this enemy...they stand right in front of us, taunting and smug, wishing that we would kill them so they can be a martyr and go to Heaven. It takes the big "trump card" off the table. We work to limit civilian casualties...they set up headquarters inside private homes, schools and hospitals(then they can blame 'us' for killing their children and garner sympathy). We are trying to win them over with food, support, etc...and they find their neighbor's head on a stick in the morning...who do you think has the power over the people? All because 2 brothers hated each other thousands of years ago, and now the world wants the oil found in that same region and has become involved in a vicious family feud.   Postado por ZMT em 28 set 09 segunda-feira - 4:28 [Responder Comentário]

	Brenda Duff	Hey there ZMT - here is a website that might interest you. ..www.jihadtojesus.com..  - I met this guy - he's the real deal.  I've met several former muslim militants that have become Christians - and of course they have the best insight on the mindset of terrorists. Talk about change - these people are making an inpact on their own people in a major way - and at the risk of their lives.  They are present day Pauls and are now adamant about love and peace. I now understand what it might have been like for some Christians of the 1st century to say they knew Paul - and other Christians say - you met the persecutor that "breathed out threats" to us Christians? Yes...some people change.   Postado por Brenda Duff em 28 set 09 segunda-feira - 8:30 [Responder Comentário]

	liane	Hello Brenda, I have followed the link you intended for ZMT and it is very interesting!I..m not a religious person but themes like this have always interested me. I..d love to get the book .This interests me particularly, as at the time of the Lebanon Civil War I was working in a refugee hostel where many Lebanese found refuge. I may add Christians and Muslims and they all lived peacefully together even having to share kitchens and sanitary facillities, so it would be interesting to hear somene who was involved in this conflict. Thanks for posting the link.   Postado por liane em 29 set 09 terça-feira - 4:45 [Responder Comentário]

	ZMT	Have you all read Ariana's reply on the "Darwin" blog? It's very religious(so be forewarned) but an amazing story of her life as a Muslim in Iran, and coming to the US and converting to Evangelical Christianity. I have friends who are Orthodox Jews, who escaped from Iran in the same era, when the Ayatollah came to power. Their sister is a reporter for 60 Minutes, and wrote a book about their family's experience. http://www.amazon.com/Journey-Land-No-Girlhood-Revolutionary/dp/1400046114   Postado por ZMT em 29 set 09 terça-feira - 4:40 [Responder Comentário]

	liane	I have now informed myself on this subject, and I agree with you, and India would eventually fail so I think the thing is to get out now.Things have escalated so much that even more troops won..t help. Afghanistan has always been a difficult country as we have seen in the past. So even here I see India there for a short time , or again is it money or natural resources. that are more interesting.Can you imagine  Hindus  and Muslims living together in peace? No way!!   Postado por liane em 27 set 09 domingo - 8:39 [Responder Comentário]

	Brenda Duff	Hi Liane - If you will email your address to me here at work - I will send you an autographed copy. www.brenda@bergproductions.com I would love to hear more about your experiences :)   Postado por Brenda Duff em 29 set 09 terça-feira - 4:40 [Responder Comentário]

	Hello, It's Me!	You are pretty much a Socialist or communist, aren't you?   Postado por Hello, It's Me! em 27 set 09 domingo - 11:43 [Responder Comentário]

	Charles Shaughnessy Charles Shaughnessy	No, British.   Postado por Charles Shaughnessy em 28 set 09 segunda-feira - 12:39 [Responder Comentário]

	Tan	hahaha, priceless! ..   Postado por Tan em 30 set 09 quarta-feira - 4:32 [Responder Comentário]

	Rebecca	I wish I knew more about Afghanistan; not being able to comment is a rare thing for me.  But what I can comment on is that British men are so cultured and refined.  It's men like you who make my world a much better place!  Anyways, have a good night!    Postado por Rebecca em 30 set 09 quarta-feira - 6:10 [Responder Comentário]

	Andrea Celeste Bella Rosalie Cullen	haha. The answer. :D And I did laugh out loud.   Postado por Andrea Celeste Bella Rosalie Cullen em 30 set 09 quarta-feira - 4:57 [Responder Comentário]

	ZMT	Ok, now you owe me a new keyboard. "Someone" just spit tea all over my current one. ;o)   Postado por ZMT em 28 set 09 segunda-feira - 4:28 [Responder Comentário]

	BEVERLY BEVERLY Reddig	Didn't have tea to "spit"--but did laugh out loud==   Postado por BEVERLY em 28 set 09 segunda-feira - 8:30 [Responder Comentário]

	liane	Ha Ha Ha! here comes that British humour! Good on you Charlie.   Postado por liane em 28 set 09 segunda-feira - 4:28 [Responder Comentário]

	Bobbi	Hi Charlie, I wish I understood that.  I must have missed some news story someplace, 'cause I'm at a loss. Of course, I'd like us out of Afghanistan, too, but that's not happening yet either.                                                  Bobbi   Postado por Bobbi em 27 set 09 domingo - 11:43 [Responder Comentário]

	Heidi Heidi Richhart	i agree whole heartedly!..   Postado por Heidi em 28 set 09 segunda-feira - 4:27 [Responder Comentário]

	Spring1	I think we need to go back..way back to the days where both sides, sends one warrior and the last one standing win for their side. End of story. The more I think about it ... They could do a WWF Cage match like event.LOL! I would like to see our leaders in a cage match with other world leaders duke it out.   Postado por Spring1 em 28 set 09 segunda-feira - 4:27 [Responder Comentário]

	Hello, It's Me!	If that was a real event, Obama would be killed in 2 seconds.   Postado por Hello, It's Me! em 29 set 09 terça-feira - 11:51 [Responder Comentário]

	Roxana Roxana Bennett	..You make alot of vaild points there, ZMT!  I guess this in not like any other war.   Never seen people that were so explosion happy!  Don't they use guns? I always wondered why they seem to hate us!  Never thought of it that way, us standing with Israel. I guess they just want everyone to fear them!  Seems even their own people.  Just was thinking if help is on the way, why  leave!  But, maybe this is an unwinable war!   has been dragging on for years!  But,  what will happen afterwards  if we just leave?  Won't they just run rampet?  Guess they already are anyway!  Do you think this has alot to do with the oil?  Hate to think that people are dying to save money on gas!  Anyway,  thanks for the feedback!  Not well informed on alot of things , I guess.   You guys seem very knowlegeable.  I want to try and understand what is going on in and with the U.S.!!  Thanks for the comment about my fiance!  I'll tell him, sure that it will make him proud.  He has a combat medal for being in Kuwait as infantry,  while they were bombing stuff! They were mostly hanging around awaiting orders.  He was a Bradley tank driver!  Says that it was fun to drive. He did step next to  a land mine, though.  Scared him. ..   Postado por Roxana em 28 set 09 segunda-feira - 4:28 [Responder Comentário]

	ZMT	Oh Roxana...thank you for the compliment, but it's only my opinion of the situation. I have a very strong "Biblical world view" and see this Middle East situation as beginning in and predicted in the Bible. There is soooo much more to this crisis than that, that has developed over the centuries, including our dependence on their oil. These fanatics do hate us for more than just our support of Israel..they also see our "lifestyle" as immoral and decadent and offensive to Allah...yet other nations call us "puritanical", go figure. I think it's a combination of a bunch of things, but I'd suspect that Israel is a big part of it. It's just the part I understand most clearly, so my answers sound like I know more than I really do ;-)   Postado por ZMT em 28 set 09 segunda-feira - 8:29 [Responder Comentário]

	Hilde	Good Morning, Charlie, always wanted to say hello to you.... Nice feeling! ..   Postado por Hilde em 30 set 09 quarta-feira - 1:27 [Responder Comentário]

	Andrea Celeste Bella Rosalie Cullen	hmm. Interesting. (Reading the comments including the link, [thanks jo.]) it's inspiring, and makes me think.   Postado por Andrea Celeste Bella Rosalie Cullen em 30 set 09 quarta-feira - 4:57 [Responder Comentário]

	tazette Linda Zephir	..I'm frustrated .... it's hard for me not to speak as easily as I would like on these interesting subjects, but the language of Shakespeare is not "my cup of tea" lol.   I just read this interesting blog (easier for me to read than writing) and all these comments from France. I need help! Yep Eureka: speak French !                         ( ') _ (')     (='.'=)      (")__(") kisses and sorry for my englsh ..   Postado por tazette em 30 set 09 quarta-feira - 4:31 [Responder Comentário]

	ZMT	Tazette ... il y a un lien sur la première entrée de Charlie qui dit "Traduisent", qui traduira alors toutes les réponses dans le français pour vous! Alors vous pouvez utiliser ce site http://translation2.paralink.com/ pour taper une réponse et une copie et le coller ici. J'espère que cela vous aide à être en mesure de participer.   Postado por ZMT em 30 set 09 quarta-feira - 6:19 [Responder Comentário]

	tazette Linda Zephir	ZMT.....Merci.. pour votre aide. Le lien me sera fort utile. ....                                      @                                      @@.... ..                                       |                                        |/                                        |.. ....                          .. ..   Postado por tazette em 01 out 09 quinta-feira - 12:05 [Responder Comentário]

	Theano Theano Theo	..A solution exists,to withdraw NATO troops, and leave the command to Mullah Omar (The Taliban leader in Afghanistan). .. ..This man fought against the Russians, as against other Afghans warlords whom put the country in an absolute chaos after the end of that war. He did a good job…a can say... ..I limit myself to copy   what a USA diplomat said .." The taliban will probably go in the same direction of the Saudi Arabia. There will be Aramco, oil pipelines, a emir, no parliament and a bunch of  Sharia lows. We can live with all this"........ ..Sounds cynic but honestly I think this will happen in the end. Shame however that will cost so many lives.....Thanks for the add.... .. .. .... ......   Postado por Theano em 30 set 09 quarta-feira - 4:32 [Responder Comentário]

	Brenda Duff	..Really?  Have you heard of Londonstan?  No offense to Britain :) I came across this clip in research of Mullah Omar.  This is the first I have heard of Melanie - but I knew about Londonstan.........I must add that in talking about muslims you need to distinguish between extremists and moderates.... ..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUieOo9LRQs.. ..   Postado por Brenda Duff em 01 out 09 quinta-feira - 12:05 [Responder Comentário]

	shelley shelley Bettis	very well spoke....and so very true!   Postado por shelley em 30 set 09 quarta-feira - 4:32 [Responder Comentário]

	Lisa	Very true Charlie   Postado por Lisa em 30 set 09 quarta-feira - 6:19 [Responder Comentário]

	Melissa	..Charlie since I am a political amateur on this issue, while you are a very well informed gentleman/citizen, I am now trying to find some viable information on the relations between India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and the United States. I have found a website that is quite informative, it is called DemocracyNow.org. Interesting recent development has occured between the U.S. and India: Hillary Clinton signed a Nuclear Arms deal with India. U.S. companies want the Indian Parliament to pass legislation limiting liability in case of nuclear accidents or disasters. I believe this deal to be a strategic action on our part, which will only escalate the Indiani-Pakistani relations. I believe our role in this matter will only create a more terroristic incentive to avoid peaceful negotiations. I will try to search for more infomation on this issue. I can only thank you for bringing your political but peaceful words out into the forefront. I enjoy reading your blogs, and look forward to discussing them with my brother! Sincerely, Melissa ..   Postado por Melissa em 01 out 09 quinta-feira - 12:05 [Responder Comentário]

	timetraveler Bonnie Burch Worthington	yes, those of us who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it? three times in one century though, this is ridiculous. is our goal in afghanistan now really having to do with protecting it's people from the taliban?  they like the taliban! they are intermarried with the taliban!  this wasn't what 9-11 was about, the social shaping of a country? especially not when we teach them to hate us more than respect us.  sadam hussein is gone, war won, osama bin laden is no where to be seen or dead, do we fight on until we find his grave, under which rock in which cave in which mountain? have we disbanded much of the organized alqaeda, kept them distracted, brought them out of the cracks so we could know who they were? mission accomplished.  it's time to come home now victoriously, all that needs to be done is to define victory in a common sense fashion and we will know it has been achieved already. bonnie worthington usa (i love my coungtry and it's people, but some of these politicians need spanked, and some of the defeated/deposed ones need incarcerated)  my hope's in god and obama!   Postado por timetraveler em 01 out 09 quinta-feira - 7:44 [Responder Comentário]

	Kerstin Kerstin Krause	No one has won the war in Afghanistan. The people there want to live in peace, and we should help them back  to lead a normal live. God alone can not help you there, we must be followed by deeds.   Postado por Kerstin em 01 out 09 quinta-feira - 4:44 [Responder Comentário]

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