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Sunday, September 14, 2008 

It really pains me to admit it but jazz, America's art form par excellance is dead. 

Its been moldering for a long time.  Like John Brown's body in the grave but now its dead.

Why is that?  Improvisation is a hard thing to explain.  You spend a lot of time honing your skills.  Its much like martial arts.  You practice your moves.  If the piano or guitar play does this...what do you do?  What are the advantages and disadvantges of using this or that scale?  Is a 11 really necessary or is it better to just rhythmically play around with the root?

But when you are actually doing it.  At least for me. You forget about this stuff.  Not all the time. You have your days when you think, "hmmm...maybe I could impose a whole tone scale and just not worry about that chord change." But when you are really doing it.  You arent thinking about that shit.  You are telling a story.

You're thinking about moods.  You're thinking about your life.  Your family. Your friends.  The state of the world. 

My whole life I've heard things.  The whistling of trees is a note.  Getting in trouble at school.  That was a note.  More like a drone with melodies being improvised off of them.

   Whatever songs I was hearing.  I heard melodies.  I remember once when I was camping with my parents.  I played different songs for them on twigs by the campfire.  They looked at me like I was crazy but I was hearing songs.

Jazz nowadays is about learning a repetoire.  Learn some standards.  Learn some of the classic patterns of the past.  Pick an idol.  Try to mimic his style. Hopefully you will become as close a carbon copy to the original as you can.

I recently went to Minton's for the 1st time.  For those of you who dont know Minton's is the place where bebop was born.  I went there around 9 p.m. at night. 

Its in Harlem.  Me and my wife walked in.  It seemed like a neighborhood bar.  Mostly black with an occasional white person here and there.   The music being played on the jukebox was 80s funk. 

Around 10 p.m. a band started playing.  It was an organ trio.  Fronted by Bill Saxton on tenor, a  name player in New York circles.  Within 15 minutes all the black people at the bar had left.  They were replaced by a busload of french tourists.  Around 20. 

They were a mix of black and white french people.  I think the drummer of the trio was confused by this.  He kept trying to talk to the black people in the group in english but was confused by how they couldnt completely understand him.  At one point he asked where they were really from.

So I was listening to jazz at mintons.  And I was realizing it was a museum.  It was divorced from America.  Where were the stories?

For the last couple weeks Ive been listening to Lester Young's "the Alladin Sessions" douple Lp.  I bought it for 5 bucks used.  Its vinyl.

Its more vital than anything Ive heard recently.  lester Young was supposedly past his primed by the time they made these recordings.  He was a drunk.  A mess. Angry.

Every song is amazing.  His tone on saxophone says more than any clever pattern he could play.

And he misses notes.  even cracks a few.  But the thing is.  He keeps going.  He doesnt just have it fixed in protools.  He lives with it.

Tone is supreme.  Lester young's tone is amazing.  It vibrates so much it almost fries out my little record player.

Tone has become secondary in jazz.  Its all about succesfully completing the patterns. 

to be continued. 

 

Mr.T-Bone & the Young Lions

 
I was talking about that with a friend musician him too a few days ago, yes jazz has become a repertory, learn the standards, and play as close as you can to your idol...totally agree with you Dave, that's sad but i think this is just one of the sad story of the today music in general...i can fell the bitterness in your words...and i can't say you're wrong...
Love
GG
 
Posted by Mr.T-Bone & the Young Lions on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 - 3:56 PM
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David Hillyard & the Rocksteady 7

 
yeah, i got to avoid writing stuff late at night when ive had a couple glasses of wine. I get all bitter.

But I think Ill get to my point in the next blog. this is just the first of a series.
 
Posted by David Hillyard & the Rocksteady 7 on Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 7:30 PM
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Phil the Tremolo King

 
hey, i can be bitter with the best of them...but i have to say id don't agree. the jazz i heard in NYC, yeah, that didn't do much for me. but ne worleans is one place where jazz is still very much alive. and not just from the old guys. there's a whole new generation of young musicians playing and sometimes re-inventing the old tunes. it may no longer be the revolutionary art form it once was...but i wouldn't say it's dead either. just my two cents...
 
Posted by Phil the Tremolo King on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 6:39 AM
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Matjö P.

 
Man, I feel the same. I tried to hold on going to Jam Sessions, here and there. But it became a ceremony. Everybody playing "his" thing next to each other. It's more the musicians market place ("here I am, check me out") than a moment of musical communion.

Each of the cats seem to play (fight) with the chart. Most of the time the rhythm section is not accompanying the soloist, but giving a minimum service of keeping the form. They are alone together...
99,99% of the time, the audiance seats confortably in chairs. Everybody forgot, that people used to dance on Jazz.



It's sad. It was a good concept. It reached a golden period, then became an idiom, to ultimately sink in conservatism... ( as one would place a piece of meat in the fridge to slow down the putrefaction process).


Jazz is dead and the remains are stinking

M
 
Posted by Matjö P. on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 4:40 AM
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Sterny

 
Thanks so much for this Dave. I know exactly where you're coming from.

 
Posted by Sterny on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 5:50 AM
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Ashley!

 
Reading this makes me really happy . You've captured it spot on. 


 
Posted by Ashley! on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 4:47 AM
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