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That Guy Duncan

Duncan That Guy


Last Updated: 10/30/2009

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Tuesday, May 05, 2009 

Category: Romance and Relationships

Slight change of plans -- I intend to start publishing more blogs as "public". I was resistant to the idea in the past because there are many people who know me in real life and know where to find this blog, but frankly that seems excessive anymore. Almost nobody reads it, and I can't get feedback if it's always private.

So, today I wanted to think about the intensity of emotion one feels for another person, when in a romantic relationship. Now, to be clear, I'm talking about the sort of relationship which is ostensibly "healthy", as opposed to that which is "toxic". If you're looking for contrast, review Sheila's recent blog on toxic relationships.

Once upon a time, I was dating Anonymous Female (AF). AF was bright, motivated, has a great job and a tidy place downtown, never married, no children, about eight years younger than me, which is (at my age) okay as I would like more children.

Most of the time, AF and I got along fine. She had one or two annoying tendencies, such as being bossy and judgemental, or disapproving unexpected circumstances before evaluating. These came out later, after she was more comfortable in the relationship, but I was able to tolerate both.

I was aware almost immediately that she was "full of fear". I use that phrase in quotes because the thought that actually passed through my mind was, "I sense much fear in you."[1] The full quote is, "Fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate; hate leads to suffering. I sense much fear in you." Yes, it's Yoda and yes, it rings true. I knew there would be trouble because of her fear: fear makes us behave irrationally. We had several moments of tension, which we resolved quickly with logical and adult conversation. We also had two moments of double-plus[2] tension, which we did not resolve quickly with logical and adult conversation.

The first moment of double-plus tension, I snapped. I was furious, and ended it. We later resolved that we wanted to at least be friends, a defensive ploy which we quickly abandonned with a bout of smooching.

The second moment of double-plus tension came not too much later, with a childish move on her part. At first I responded with insight and blah blah blah, but pretty soon she started pressing my buttons andI started to steam. I was self-aware enough to tell her to stop pushing, to tell her to relax etcetera. She did not stop, instead becoming more and more frantic and getting me more and more incensed. Within ten minutes, I snapped. I was furious, and ended it. We spoke again only to trade the last of our things, and not since.

In both cases, snapping was a function of how angry I was. Furious. Unreasonably, irrationally angry. Angry. Anger. Hey, waitaminute... haven't we figured out where anger comes from?

"FEAR leads to anger."

Damn.

Some of my reading[3] suggests that it's only with the ones who make us truly crazy that we can become truly sane. This suggests, further, that I should consider connecting with AF again.

I try to be introspective, though the good Lord knows I fail as much as anybody else at it. I try! But in this case, I don't think I can manage to overcome my emotional response and reconnect. Too much water under the bridge? Maybe. Maybe too concerned about the emotional toll of reconnecting with someone who can get under my skin so easily. Fear....

So, this blog was not about soliciting advice. I have been told in no uncertain terms, by a few people whom I trust, that I need to hunt this one down again. I don't think I can bring myself to do so. But tell me, does this situation resonate with you? Have you been in a similar position? How can you tell between the ones who piss you off because you are vulnerable to them, and the ones who piss you off because they're self-absorbed brats without a shred of insight? (No, that was not a comment directed at AF)

Sheila Delaney
Sheila Delaney

 
First off....thanks for the link. ;) I feel honored, especially from you.

Now, to the meat of the thing.

You talk about relationships in such a clinical way, as if you're completely separated from it that you're discussing your rat subjects. Only because I know you well enough to do realize that this is real for you.

You did solicit advice though, even though you said it wasn't that. I appreciate that you are listening cause I'm gonna tell you what I think in a non clinical way.

It sounds like you're unclinically and unreasonably in love with her or you wouldn't be wondering if you should search her out. Don't worry about why she pissed you off. That will lead you into more undecisiveness. Just ask yourself....do I want to see her again? And if the answer is yes, then ask yourself why and if you like the answer then go for it.

Truthfully, I think you need some counseling about your anger. Being furious with someone and still wanting to see them later sounds weird to me.

Passion is good and opposites attract is good but furious sounds like toxic.
Just my opinion. Hope you get it worked out. :)
 
 
Posted by Sheila Delaney on Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 6:07 AM
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That Guy Duncan
Duncan That Guy

 
Most of the time I don't get angry. The loss of control was a total shock for me.
 
 
Posted by That Guy Duncan on Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 11:53 AM
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Melissa

 
I am simply too far away from knowing what I'm talking about with relationships that I've got nothing. If you don't look her up, though, you're going to keep wondering.
 
 
Posted by Melissa on Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 7:24 PM
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That Guy Duncan
Duncan That Guy

 
Wondering I can handle simply because my memory is so abysmal, ha ha! On the other hand, the loss of control was difficult to ... "accept"?
 
 
Posted by That Guy Duncan on Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 2:37 AM
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K

 
If fear is what is stopping you from rekindling, be upfront with her. Tell her you do want to be with her (if that is the case) but there is this fear, not just fear, but actually knowing that it will happen again...... however, tell her the specific behaviours of hers that seemed to be the trigger, and let her be part of the solution. I believe if both of you are willing to work on these problems, they can be resolved. The bigger questions are "Do you want her?" and "Does she want you?". Don't answer the question for her. Ask her. Also, the only way to tell if someone pisses you off because you are vulnerable to them or because they are brats is through time. Take time to get to know the person, then you will be able to tell. My two cents.
 
 
Posted by K on Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 3:35 AM
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