The RIAA and similar groups have failed to wrap their heads around the notion that the "Pandora's Box" of copyright enforcement was splintered into a bazillion pieces at least 10 years ago (I was getting all the Aphex rarities via FTP as early as 1998; obviously it's only gotten easier since)...so any plan and any model that fails to account for the utter hopelessness of curtailing file-sharing is most certainly dead in the water.  Which would apply to almost all of the mainstream Western entertainment industry, wouldn't it?

 

Its about the $$$

Thats all; RIAAs pockets and everyone involved but the artists.

 

Western Artists are rapidly learning (within the music industry) it is far more profitable to sell their music under independent labels as opposed to major labels. Personally "piracy" isn't for me. Making music for free doesn't pay the bills. I feel that the artist has done an exceptional job for me and should get paid as such for allowing me some creative freedom with their works. The reality of it cannot be changed regardless of how you make the argument - stealing is stealing. And on that note I thank all producers that keep DnB fresh and alive! For me I'll continue to pay unless you GIVE me the tune personally.

 

Personally I think it's wonderful. I simply wouldn't be aware of over half the quality stuff (including your music, Amit) that I've discovered out there if I didn't first stumble upon it through filesharing. With that being said, I believe that respect should be paid when it is due, and I will gladly buy an album even after having downloaded it if I am really into it, as I did with Neverending through the Breakbeat Science store. You've got to realize that most people aren't really content with what they are forcefed through the radio and television set. Most of the time we long for deeper, more introspective experiences that are in tune with our personal motifs. At times it's hard to find that in a Best Buy or Tower Records store (especially for me, here in the States). That's when I resort to finding it on soulseek or through torrents. The internet is a truly amazing place once you start exploring its depths.

 

On having a fan-base: It can be said that piracy is stealing, and of course it is. But new artist, even some old artist, have to be aware that their fan-base lives in the digital world. They talk to eachother, share ideas and art and music. And although it goes to the personal respect level of an individual ultimately, the digital medium is easily the best place to promote beyond the word of mouth process.
On having money: Remember when Radiohead gave out In-Rainbows on a donation basis over their website? I would love to know the gross income that was made out of that level of confidence in the music they were trying to "sell".
 

P2P/filesharing/piracy is a modern day replacement for free advertising. In my opinion it even entails a subtle but persistent lowering in quality, much in the same way as an irritating radiojingle or a 30sec TV-ad does. For one it lowers the threshold of culture/music, which is of course important, but it also lowers the threshold for quality. A blade cutting at two sides.

Let's look at the manga-industry the other way: let's pretend that one way or another it had as much exposure as with the piracy-way of distribution, but then wìthin a regulated frame. Those artists/manga-designers/developers still have missed their gazillion of dollars.


 

i guess it depends on what youre selling, it your fans truly want to support you they will buy your music. This new digital age where everybody is stealing, the best thing you can do now as an artist is to play live. I like file sharing to an extent , for things i can get over here , but now you can buy almost anything online , so to me its stealing and it can effect the artist i think.

 

i grew up in the 70s,80s and as kids we always were swapping cassette tapes of the latest kool music amongst ourselves,,some just tagged along for the ride and were content to listen to whatever the scene was reppin,,then there was the percentage of us who were obbsessive music nuts from the word go,,we would put all our pocket money and spare change from afterschool jobs into butying the music we liked becuase we got so much out of it and didnt have any issues suporting the efforts of those we so greatly admired,,i dont see whats changed at all ??? its just the delivery systems a bit different theese days thats all,,i think at the end of the day there will always be a percentage who actively shop and purchase music and there will always be a percentage who are happy to take whatevers on offer,,,when it comes to making money out of music ,,as a general rule of thumb,,the more obscure and underground your music is the smaller the fan base yeah,and allthough you will be competing against all your fellow artists(and at  the rate that modern music is sprouting hybrids and scenes it wont be long till everybody is in a band and there will be no more fans, just competing artists haha) from within that genre for the limited consumer/fan$$ available ,anyway most underground music people nearly always support the musuic they love by either attending live performances or through buying merchandise so as long as you dont have unrealistic expectations about touring the world on lear jets and trashing fancy hotels then you wont suffer to many dissapointments,,i mean the best music is made out of love anyway right music thats made to generate $$$ may fool fool the sleeping zombie hordes of suburbia but not the true purveyors of good art ;),,oh anyway getting off the track a bit,,,piracy - ownership - profits = big can of worms and there is so many angles & scenarios to consider,,maybe we should begin with sampling ? remember in the mid 80s when a handfull of of old soul-funk artists went on a crusade against the hiphip kids of the time for using various breaks and beats from ol tunes,,most of those producers then were only pressing very small amounts of wax and were not likely to have been making any real money from it,,the recorded efforts at that point were more of a promotional tool to bolster thier live bookings (where the real profits are)anyways what happened during this whole thing was that dozens of old forgotten soul artists ect were given a new breath of life and introduced to a whole new generation ( and a massive new white audience haha) due to the promotion of their music via the samples being used in most hiphop at that time,,a lot of theese people were fading into obscurity and thier sales if any ?were dwindling and probably restricted to the second hand re-selling conducted by hardcore collectors & crate diggers worldwide,,anyway im a bit pressed for time right now so lets just call that my first post in this thread to do with piracy and illtellectual copywrite,,like i said there are so many angles and shades or grey inbetween,,at the end of the day maybe music is something beyond us that has a life of its own and will get out there one way or another whether its channeling through us or not ? i always hear new music and paterns in my head constantly sadly though ive still got lots to learn to be able to channel it effectively enough to share with you but it will happen in time ;) trust,,back laters :)

 

The only way I got my hands on your cuts Amit is thru torrents. Sorry, but I will buy your albums, because 192k mp3's arent so clear.. Foobar Noise Enhancer plugin works wonders on em..
 

IF YOU ENJOY IT PAY FOR IT!

 

I've been able to give people good recommends based on viewing fan-subbed content, and certainly have contributed much, over time to animation sales. Great post.

 

just posted a big rant but it didnt show ?

 

It is a reputation promotion, not a commercial one, anyhows mp3's changed a scene, now to "survive" with sound u need to dj at least for few bucks and have a job...Your tracks are the best things I ever heard man, nice one for the insane bitch 
 

For sure! People who download and don't buy, would never buy anyway, I like to get a taste of things, if it's good, I'll part with my money for it!
 

wow!

 

I think that If We promoute music, artists by inlegal music and dont think about money only on dream and support artits its good, but if we make only form money, it it's good!