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City: London
Country: UK
Sunday, June 28, 2009 

Category: News and Politics
Stop Islamist oppression of women
Ban the burka
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Milan Polak

 
very well put as always.
 
Posted by Milan Polak on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 11:37
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Seanie Ruttledge
Sean J Ruttledge

 
Good job Pat !

Only Ninjas should be allowed to walk around like that

; o )
 
Posted by Seanie Ruttledge on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 11:53
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Missa

 
Excellent.

 
Posted by Missa on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 11:56
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Sammy
Sammy McLeod

 
I like your shirt, almost as much as your brilliant video.

 
Posted by Sammy on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 12:05
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Ron
Ronald Williams

 
I agree with every word, Pat.  So.........let's see if all of those cowardly feminists will at last find their normally loud voices again!

 
Posted by Ron on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 12:05
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Tommy The Death Dealer
Tom Lambert

 
the only reason they are worn is because the husband demands that his wife covers her body and face and hair, so nobody is attracted to them. it is nothing to do with muslim culture, its pathetic.
 
Posted by Tommy The Death Dealer on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 13:13
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Tommy The Death Dealer
Tom Lambert

 
i also cannot believe that recently i read that alll muslim men in the uk want all the english women to dress like that as well! its fucked!
 
Posted by Tommy The Death Dealer on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 13:15
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Kevin

 
Freedom? I remember reading something about that in some old history books I found that had survived hidden away from the societies that let it fritter away as the governments took over more and more control from those societies and gave in to the very medeival thinking they always said they were totally against. It sounded like such a good idea at the time (freedom), but now that we are once again living in a science and truth free repressed society like those of the early and middle medieval dark ages...well it is so much better now don't you think!
 
Posted by Kevin on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 13:23
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Glenn Cox

 
If you weigh more than a duck we'll burn you as a witch! 

 
Posted by g on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 19:10
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Faye

 
Well said!
 
Posted by Faye on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 13:25
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I Don't Fear The Chaos!
Phil Tha Infidel

 
Yeh, that's true! I was talking to a western covert to Islam on youtube the other day. She converted because her bf, a muslim, decided to get serious with his religion again. She's now wearing a Hijab, so I said to her it only said in the Koran that women should cover their modesty, and that could have meant a simple pair of nickers and bra! Well she says modesty is the whole body, I don't think she realsies that idea of modesty is a male idea! Not just a male idea, but a middle eastern male idea AND tradition. Anyway, she then said that Mohammad's wives wore head scarfs etc, and because they wore it it's surely good enough for her? It is just male domination pure and simple!

And yes, how very curious the feminists are quiet about the male subdgation of women! It has alot to do with political correctness/cultrual sensitivity!

I've also noticed the anti-Facist/Nazi groups are silent about muslim extremests AND the rights of women in Islam! I suppose their hardcore stance againts facism can't cross the lines of cultural sensitivity?
 
Posted by I Don't Fear The Chaos! on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 13:54
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Taric

 
What's wrong with cultural sensitivity?

 
Posted by Taric on Wednesday, July 01, 2009 - 03:33
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Prog Rock Girl

 
I don't see any "cultural sensitivity" coming from the Islamic side.

 
Posted by Prog Rock Girl on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 14:58
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I Don't Fear The Chaos!
Phil Tha Infidel

 
Quite alot when that culture you're being sensitve to is a direct threat to some of your freedoms and culture. Would you show some "Cultural sensitivity" if your government gave presidence to a minority group of Nazis (btw I'm NOT compairing all Musilms to Nazis)? Islam is a threat to our way of life, just look at any musilm nation to see that. Where ever it goes it obliterates the native culture and replaces it with Islamic culture and religion.

There's nothign wrong with a little cutural sensitivity, but when that culture surpresses women and many freedoms of the individual it DOESN'T deserve anything. I'm fine with the Hijab, but not the Burka. Muslims would have you believe women choose to wear the Burka, some do, but alot are forced or coerced in to wearing it.
 
Posted by I Don't Fear The Chaos! on Wednesday, July 01, 2009 - 22:06
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Taric

 
Ah...Xenophobia at it's finest. But then again, you live in the UK. In the United States, the thought of any sort of islamic takeover is laughable; seeing as how our neighbors are also primarily Christian countries. Do you really think they're going to force you to convert?

 
Posted by Taric on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 06:07
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I Don't Fear The Chaos!
Phil Tha Infidel

 
No, NOT Xenophobia. I am not concerned with the ethnic make-up of England! All colours will run in to one eventually! Where the hell did you get the idea from that I'm Xenophobic? It's ridiculous! Islam is NOT an ethnic group, it's a religion, a religion that is growing at a fast rate in the UK because of immigration, there's over 2 million now, and that was only over a period of 30 years. If the same people who're coming here from the Indian sub-continent came without Islam, I wouldn't care! Your accusation of Xenophibia is baseless! You've been conditioned to think that an attack on Islam is an attack on a ethnic group, it isn't. It's an attack on a pointless, repressive stone age religion.

I'm not worried about an Islamic takeover in my life time, I'm worried about my freedoms being limited because it's "disrespectful" to muslims. I'm worried about the Sharia Courts currently operating in the UK that are actively denying women and children their rights! Yes, it IS happening! I'm worried freedom of speech will be stifled when ever it concerns Islam! For instance, a group of moderate Muslims were going to storm the House of Lords if a anti-Islam film was shown and then debated. These moderate Muslims would stop this debate but not the extremests calling for the death of the west and non-believers?

I don't hate Muslims, I just dislike their religion that is getting so much respect when it deserves none.

Further more, you and people like you's cheap use of the word Xneophobia/racist has been said so many times to the wrong people in the wrong situation that it's lost all meaning. Well done!
 
Posted by I Don't Fear The Chaos! on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 14:24
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Taric

 
Maybe you could...

1-Adapt laws that protect both Muslims and the secular

2-Stand up to them, collectively.

America is real good at both of these. If a group of bearded men paraded our streets demanding Sharia, they'd need bulletproof vests!

 
Posted by Taric on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 04:18
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I Don't Fear The Chaos!
Phil Tha Infidel

 
You seem to miss the fact that cecular rights are not guranteed because it's disresepctful to ALL muslims. There's already a piece of paper saying I do have rights, but then there's another saying those rights don't apply to me if what I say, do or wear is seen as disrespectful to muslims or a threat to "community cohesion". So muslims get their rights but I don't get mine.

Secondly, the UK is so paralyzed by the word "racist" or your choice "Xenophobic" that no one opens their mouths on any subject involving minorites, especially Islam. Because when they do some people like you crawl out of the woodwork and shout "Xenophobic" along with the moderate muslims. Even moderate muslims don't do anything about the extremests or the Sharia courts that operate. However, I, Pat and many others have done what you've said and you call us xenophobic?
 
Posted by I Don't Fear The Chaos! on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 14:47
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Taric

 

xen⋅o⋅pho⋅bi⋅a

.. [zen-uh-foh-bee-uh, zee-nuh-] Show IPA
–noun
an unreasonable fear or hatred of foreigners or strangers or of that which is foreign or strange.
Origin:
1900–05; xeno- + -phobia

Related forms:
xen⋅o⋅pho⋅bic, adjective
Dictionary.com Unabridged
Based on the Random House Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2009.


 
Posted by Taric on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 04:10
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I Don't Fear The Chaos!
Phil Tha Infidel

 
Well you're strange and foreign, I don't have a unresonable fear and hatred of you. Further more I have friends from different ethnicities/religions, I don't fear or hate them. Have you seen my Myspace freinds list? I suppose I added the non-white/English people on there to make myself look less xenophobic?

I'll tell you again, I DON'T hate all muslims, I just dislike the religion because it's backward, stongage, repressive, male dominated rubbish that is rubbing counter against British society and law! And I don't want such a religion being seen as good and respectable and actually being called a religion peace and tolerance when it denies women and children rights. Least of all I don't want it operating here in the UK.

 
Posted by I Don't Fear The Chaos! on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 15:03
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Qntkka

 
 Wait! Did you just dis Darth Vader?!!! Now you've gone too far!
 Hahahahaha!
 Great vlog, Pat!
 
Posted by Qntkka on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 14:13
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Qntkka

 
Sometimes I like to walk around with my skii mask and ninja swords, but I am told that this is unacceptable, clearly my persecuters are racist! Hahahaha!
 
Posted by Qntkka on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 14:17
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Sketch

 
good info this time

 
Posted by Sketch on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 14:42
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Wanda

 
The young women walking around in the "Americanized" version of the burka on my univeristy campus may not wear all black and may have their faces showing, but I've seen many of them suffer from heat exhaustion during our hot, humid summers here in Florida. I think it's utterly disgusting that their male counterparts walk around in whatever they choose to wear. I think your idea of forcing them to wear the burka is great. Maybe then we'd see just how popular it is.
 
Posted by Wanda on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 15:08
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Tony Slug
Tony slug

 
On the ball as per usual, Pat.
You will see countless "Pac-Man ghosts" as I call them in Amsterdam-West, Amstrdam-East (or in any Dutch city for that matter).  Needless to say, some claim these women's "rights" are brutally violated by for instance, bus drivers who want to see picture ID of bus subcription card holders.

But the plot thickens.

Amsterdam - Theatres should not be permitted to reserve seats exclusively for women, Dutch integration minister Eberhard van der Laan said on Tuesday. Van der Laan was commenting on a Rotterdam theatre's new policy of reserving 50 seats on its first rows exclusively for women during certain performances.
The theatre said the new policy should bring religious Muslim women to the Dutch theatre who would otherwise not to do so to avoid sitting next to a man.
Minister Van der Laan said the theatre's policy contradicts equal rights legislation.
The Rotterdam city council, which is one of the sponsors of the theatre, had not protested against the new policy.
Separate facilities to accomodate the needs of religious Muslim women are not a novelty in the Netherlands

 
Posted by Tony Slug on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 15:23
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~-NMW-~
Your Mom

 
so true, so true.

 
Posted by ~-NMW-~ on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 15:42
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Jonathan

 
Phil Tha Infidel wrote: "I've also noticed the anti-Facist/Nazi groups are silent about muslim extremests AND the rights of women in Islam! I suppose their hardcore stance againts facism can't cross the lines of cultural sensitivity?"

You got that right! Neither the NUS, Hope Not Hate, nor the amusingly titled fascist group "Unite Against Fascism" would reply to my emails asking why they weren't campaigning against Islamofascism. And when I asked EHRC whether they'd lodged a complaint against the black only "Black Police Officers Association" (after they launched their action against the BNP, and no I'm not a member), they said they don't answer "silly questions like that" and hung up!

Anyway, great vid, Pat. Absolutely spot on as usual.

 
Posted by Jonathan on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 16:23
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Abu Cihan

 
Do tell me, what is this Islamofascism you talk about???  And, more importantly, what are your first-hand experiences with it???  I do not mean whether or not you saw this or that clip on YouTube, but in the real world, have you ever encountered Islamofascist behaviour??  I sure have encountered a lot of carofascist terrorist activities, cars killing and maiming people all around the world, in the East as well as in the West, similar to Surah al-Baqarah:142, to murderous cars belong the east and the west, yet no-one decries carofascism???

High Scores Pictures, Images and Photos

 
Posted by Abu Cihan on Wednesday, July 01, 2009 - 08:30
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Prog Rock Girl

 
I do remember working with a recent Muslim convert who said, around 2001, that America deserved 9/11 because we were morally unclean. He also defended the clothing that women in Afghanistan were/are forced to wear b/c "the bible and the quran say women should be modest" and "look how women dress here, that's crazy". Defending 9/11 terrorists and the Taliban sounds pretty Islamofascist to me, and if he acted like that in front of a crowd of "infidels", he probably showed his extremism even more when around other Muslims. Other Muslim friends of mine have acted tolerant at first meeting, but when I've gotten to know them they talked about how stupid every other religion is and then gotten furious when I pointed out things about Islam, and said that terrorism was justified. Have you seen the video of the British Imam, who when asked did he condemn the London subway bombers for killing innocent people, said "I cannot condemn my Muslim brothers" and "they are not innocent because they don't believe in God"?

 
Posted by Prog Rock Girl on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 15:06
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I Don't Fear The Chaos!
Phil Tha Infidel

 
They wont answer silly questions like that because they must think it's obvious white people can't be trusted in a group, but every other type of person can. It's just insulting to white people and completely idiotic!
 
Posted by I Don't Fear The Chaos! on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 18:56
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Abu Cihan

 
So, here I go again, what is Islamofascims??
 
Posted by Abu Cihan on Wednesday, July 01, 2009 - 16:26
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I Don't Fear The Chaos!
Phil Tha Infidel

 
I never said or wrote the word "Islamofacisim". I don't really need to because most religions of the world are facist in nature anyway.
 
Posted by I Don't Fear The Chaos! on Wednesday, July 01, 2009 - 21:46
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doctor mario

 
ROFL.

That's bloody genius.  Men in burkas.  My stomach hurts.  :3

Total agreement about the silent feminists worried about stepping on toes.  What's sad, is that the feminist voices in the Middle East are imprisoned, banished, beaten, or killed.  Ask a female Iranian protester right now.  They'll show you the bruises. 

The only thing I would add to your Burka argument, is how flimsy it makes men look.  For real.  Men can't control their trouser snake enough, so an entire gender must be frankly oppressed, to compensate for male insecurities?  Sorry.  That's retarded.  It's deficient.  It's just plain old paranoid.  

dr.m

PS have you ever looked at an affluent woman in a Burka?  Be sure to notice the makeup caked on to the eyes.  Forgive me, but isn't that a little bit like Helen Keller doing a pole dance at a gentleman's club.  Just saying.

 
Posted by doctor mario on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 16:41
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Chuck

 
Pat, I love your videos and commentary.  Hope to visit the U.K. again soon.  Would love to meet you someday!
 
Posted by Chuck on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 17:59
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God is a Delusion!!!(Ask Me Why)

 
Dude, I usually agree with you but not on this one. You trample on one persons freedoms you trample on everyones including your own. You cannot become so obsessed with rebutting and rebuking Islam that you lose what you stand for. Anytime there is freedom there is risk. Its the drawback of such a fruitful idea.

 
Posted by God is a Delusion!!!(Ask Me Why) on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 19:06
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Grinnin' Sinner
Bob Thatcher

 
In my religion we beat our children for God.  Thanks for your support.

 
Posted by Grinnin' Sinner on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 23:48
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God is a Delusion!!!(Ask Me Why)

 
lol. Except children are not being beaten in this case. This is about wearing a vale over your face. This is a case similar to a saying refering to freedom of speech, "I may not like what you have to say but I will fight for your right to say it."

 
Posted by God is a Delusion!!!(Ask Me Why) on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 04:04
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Glenn Cox

 
You miss the point. If it was "voluntary", women would still wear them because they'd be beaten by their husbands at home. They would still wear burkas, not because they want to, but because they live within a culture of intimidation and fear.

 
Posted by g on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 19:17
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God is a Delusion!!!(Ask Me Why)

 
Well them there are laws against domestic violence. Banning the burka won't change the fact that your husband is abusive.And you fail to take into consideration that some women do it voluntarily. Pentecostal women don't shave there legs and wear really long skirts. They do it because their delusion leads them to believe it pleases god. Should the government ban long skirts next and demand that all women shave their legs. I would be all for that but its an infringement on their liberty.

 
Posted by God is a Delusion!!!(Ask Me Why) on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 23:17
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¤ Black Rose ¤

 
Very well said, as usual!!!

 
Posted by ¤ Black Rose ¤ on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 23:08
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Grinnin' Sinner
Bob Thatcher

 
I think women should be able to go shirtless anywhere a man may; let's be fair.

 
Posted by Grinnin' Sinner on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 23:47
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Prog Rock Girl

 
And I'm pretty sure if there were a referendum, that would be legalized with a large majority.

 
Posted by Prog Rock Girl on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 15:08
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Glenn Cox

 
Yup. 

 
Posted by g on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 19:17
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EricBrooks.Com®
Eric Brooks

 
"Walking around in a Mobile Tent" HAHAHA!

I didn't know you had a MySpace dude... I love your videos on YouTube.
*friend request sent*

Black Rose sent me. Blame her.

 
Posted by EricBrooks.Com® on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 00:15
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Rob

 
Intelligent and well put, Pat, as always. Don't want to offend anyone here in the U.S., Pat, is generally the double standard. Don't want to uncover your face for a driver's license, you shouldn't be allowed to get one no matter how much one protests. Need a separate screener to inspect you if indeed you are pulled aside at security. Oh, it's my religion is all b.s.. Double standards. No adult can wear a mask in public here, it's illegal but Muslim's are allowed to do so. Muslim women are blowing themselves and others up because it would be disrespectful to scrutinize them. Want to wear that crap go back to your homeland where women are killed for being seen with a male who is not a family member and women aren't even allowed to drive in most Arab countries. I once went to the King Hussien hospital in Jordan and men had actually locked metal contraptions around their wife's heads. Always freedoms for the males esp. when they come to the West. They certainly try to draw attention to themselves being free where as the women draw attention for being prisoners. Time to ene the old religious controlling crap.

 
Posted by Rob on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 01:16
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Harvey
Harvey Cotton

 
No kudus for you, Pat.  The government should remain silent on questions of personal wardrobe.  Any law that seeks to bar the burka has exactly as much logic and validity as a law that makes it mandatory.  Womyn should never fight for the ability of the State to restrict what they can wear.  If anything, they should join civil libertarians in fighting this ban.

 
Posted by Harvey on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 03:14
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Glenn Cox

 
Let's just ban Islam instead, or ban burka wearing woman from driving or visiting airports.

 
Posted by g on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 19:20
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Abu Cihan

 
How about we just ban stupid people who can't think for themselves, but need a bald geezer to tell them what to think???
 
Posted by Abu Cihan on Wednesday, July 01, 2009 - 16:23
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Prog Rock Girl

 
If we couldn't think for ourselves we wouldn't be having discussions. Anyway, people should at least take the burqua off for a driver's license if they want to drive. And in an airport no one should go around with their face covered, esp since we can't even bring a bottle of water on a plane!

 
Posted by Prog Rock Girl on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 15:33
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Mark J.A.

 
Well said!
 
Posted by Mark J.A. on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 14:27
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