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City: MYRTLE BEACH
State: South Carolina
Country: US
Signup Date: 10/17/2006

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Monday, January 12, 2009 

Current mood:  aggravated
It's obvious that right now, as I type this (and as you read this) the whole world is in an economic slump. The Stock Markets have plummeted, and every single industry is feeling the hurt.
The Music Industry has been in a general downfall ever sence 2005 when Nickel Back was the biggest band around. Obviously its a crisis.
Although many members of the Active Myrtle Beach Music Scene are trying their best, it's no doubt that shows are falling short of what they should be.
Recently I attended a show with 3 awesome local acts (Sleeping Policeman, The Baboon Brigade, and Aftermath) that in my mind should have had three to five times more people attending.
So I feel more now than ever, we need to all make this scene, or give up.(HOPEFULLY "make this scene")

Lets think about what we've been doing in this past:
*Note that I speak of the main/active part of the MBMS
*Also: this is just what i feel are the main factors hurting rather then helping our scene. Feel Free to post comments that contain other factors you feel are hurting our scene.

"5$ at the door"  We all recognize this as the standard pricing for Shows entrance, and for most situations thats not a big deal, and if you have respect for the MBMS you will pay it. However, I will admit that although I would like to see everyone in the scene making everyone else in the scene by donating this nominal fee, I would much rather see more people at shows. The only possible Suggestions I have for this are to slash the basic asking price. 3$,  would be my suggestion. As a band, you're not taking to much of a hit, and as a venue you can still expect your regulars in, who may come back for this band at later times, as well as a bunch of new comers who may very well want to buy drinks or food.

"Canceling Bands" There is a usual number of bands playing at one show. The reason being, that normally four or more bands are booked, and only 2-3 will show up.  In this area I must scold the bands without mercy. To bands that cancel shows they've been signed up for, at the last minute (which can be up to about a week in actual time) you are only ruining yourselfs.  Nothing infuriates me more then when a band commits to a show, and has the nerve, to either show up late, ask for a different playing time, or not show up at all. This hurts EVERYONE. First, you as a band lose respect from your local peers, next you lose the faith of your fans, who will then not come back for other shows, or even stay for the show you were supposed to be playing. Which can cause them to miss out on something they could potentially love. So if you're going to play a show, do whatever it takes to play it, i've seen quite a few bands who had to play without a member, or while they were sick, or just while they had other problems, and they get all my respect for it.

"Fickle Fans" Some of you may be saying "I hate those" not realizing that you are one of them. If you don't quite understand what a "fickle fan" is; then check out this dictionary entry i've made.

Fickle Fans- Adjective, Noun- A fan who goes to a show, doesn't pay attention to the band, then leaves during that band, or during the set of another band.

I understand that of course there are circumstances in which you have to leave. (I do) However, that does not mean, that you should leave if you don't have to. When you leave, you cause other people to leave. If you come for one band, and then leave, you have a problem. I have seen even kids who are part of the "hardcore scene"  come into a show for "The Majora" and they had more respect for the other bands than 90% of the rest of the crowd. (so hats off to them)*a special note on that show: it was not a "hardcore" show.
As a fan you are there to support your friends, idols, co-workers, and brothers in some respects. So it only makes sense that if you want them to survive, you would support everyone else that they're playing with, who in some occasions are the only reason they got that show. Bottom line, if you have to leave, do it during a set-up/break down of the bands, so that you don't absolutetly disrespect the band playing, and the bands who have yet to play.

"Getting Paid Upfront/Money Gurantee" This part applys to bands and venues ( the few that there are). In a nutshell, don't be so stupid. If you are SAVAS(arguably the biggest band Myrtle Beach has birthed) even you should not be demanding money upfront. It's disrespectful to all parties, from the other bands on the bill, to the venue you're playing at. (Editors note: not an attack on Savas) As for the bars that are willing to shell out 400+ dollars on a single band, don't do it. Instead invest that money into you're venue. The sound Garden, was the perfect venue for MB. However, it's dead. So it's up to the living venues to try and make your establishment just as ideal. Considering that they made quite a bit of money, and became the scene favorite. If you take the four hundred dollars you were gonna spend on that band, put it towards making your venue a tiny bit better, and tell the band they make a slice of the door price, you can easily attract more people to show with the impoved venue, which will make the band more moeny in turn, and it will force the band to convince more people to come, which will again, in turn, make all parties involved more money.
There are a thousand more aspects of the scene that need to change. Most importantly to make the scene a family. The Late Wicked Awesomes, and Chicken Day, worked feverishly with many local acts to show them, they had a crowd here, they would be supported, and they would be respected, as long as they respected and supported everyone else. (Kind of like Rock' N' Roll Communism.) There are a handfull of bands that refused to support/ respect the other bands of the scene, and they declined greatly or ceased function as a band.
So Lets all try and make this scene, come together, go to a show. Spend a couple bucks on a drink, by some of the cheap merch (Editors note, to bands: keep your merch prices down, people already paid to come to your show, don't make them bankrupt just SO THEY CAN SUPPORT YOU OUTSIDE OF THE SHOW) and lets try to save this scene.

-One Imaginary Boy 
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$K3TCHY J@K3DUD3 fuck you! =)
Jake Anderson

 
Hey What's up this is Jake from Hey Dude! (myspace. com/heydudemb) we are from this scene you are speaking of and I deffinetly do see where you are coming from when you say this scene is dying. However I think the best way for this scene to not die is by reaching out for help from bands maybe not from this scene like bigger bands. I mean I understand where you say garuntees are dumb and $3 should be enough to support a show seeing as my band has only ever gotten paid for one show ever and that show was actually promoted by micheal from savas ;).
But basically I think local bands should not be so anal about garuntees because that is just arrogant to charge this much money to play for your own best friends but I think if you lower the door prices you wont be able to afford the garuntee of a nice touring band who could potentially bring many new kids to shows because people will be tired of seeing the same few bands within the scene. I mean yea it would be very nice if everyone just magically cared about this place and all the bands in it but thats never going to happen so in order to keep anything going some form of marketing techniques are going to have to apply, like maybe bringing bigger touring acts who, yes unfortunately for you promoter people, do require a garuntee. But lets face it, if you put $3 at the door to see the same 5 bands you see all the time around here and the same few kids will come who were going to already basically because they are friends with the band but you bump it up to $10 and are able to afford a band that maybe has been played on a music channel and possibly warped tour chances are the venue will be packed and you will make your garuntee money back and then some.
Plus there is that much more exposure to local bands of our scene such as Chicken Day, Hey Dude!, or The Majora!
 
Posted by $K3TCHY J@K3DUD3 fuck you! =) on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 1:47 AM
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Charlie
Charlie Nash

 
It's going to be alright . Listen the scene is not dead it's stail . It's the same bands , same songs . Each band brings thier own crowd and that's it . The bar owners have to book 4 or 5 bands to get a crowd . Now the $5 door fee is not bad . Has for the $400 dollar bands i play in one of those . We are a cover band called Fourplay . I know none of the local SCENE fans have never seen us , except for Sharklegs they hang out at Wimpy's and we played there a couple of times . not to mention someone spread the word around that there are cops in the band . Well I'm a firefighter and we bust our asses at our jobs , I challenge anyone to do what we do , work our hours for a little pay . We started the band for stress release . We have all played in bands most of our lives , I've played in Metal , Country and Theater bands . We are out to have fun . Now why do we charge so much . Well our gig days are about 7 hours long from travel , I come from loris , to set up , we have our own PA and sound guy . We play for 4 hours sometimes longer , and then breakdown . Our crowd that comes out will spend $100 at the bar . Last weeks show you mentioned , half of the crowd wasn't old enough to drink , I actually saw some of them leave and go to Dunkin Donuts to get coffee . They had coffee there , I know I drink it all the time and it's good . So they made no money at that show for those people . Remember the venue has to make money they can't put anything in unless they make money . Touring bands are Ok if thier promoted . I have seen bands with platnum albums play for a handful of people here . The scene needs someone to Identify itself with . To get the Broadway crowd , wich is your target crowd 18-25 . you need to get the girls out . if there is girls there the guys will follow . Sound stupid it's not . How do you think the bands from 80's got so big . Now the talent here is amazing . you all need to be getting some new stuff out I know you all got some . Throw a cover or two in there for fun . I noticed at the shows there's nothing going on between the long breaks and then when the band starts they just start playing . I mentioned this to the bar owner last week and told him we needed an MC for the show to get everyone pumped up . I'm not sure what his name was but he knew who to ask and he did a great job and I saw a difference in show after that . Everyone needs to go out and see everyone , St Jack , Sharklegs and Tortioned are my favorite bands , and i mean favorite bands , not just local favorites. I'm old and like more of the 80's sound so they appeal to me more . I thought sleeping policeman's acoustic version of thriller was awesome . We just need to hit the pavement . Just don't talk about it or be thier friends on myspace go see them , they might be out seeing you . Remember summer coming up tourist will be out and these places will be filled again . Meanwhile keep writing and playing , no matter who shows up , it only makes you better . Until someone with some money comes around and throws money into radio and other forms of media for these shows we just need to out there spreading the word . Work hard and don't give up .

 
Posted by Charlie on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 11:40 PM
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Pachón
God Thompkins

 
I doubt whether the MB Music Scene is dying, or will ever die. It's been the same way it has been for a long time. Like the other person commented, it's stagnant. It has always and will continue to rise and fall within the same stagnant range. While this is not acceptable, I believe it is the truth. There will always be high school kids in this city, and as long as they exist, there will be a music scene, however minimal it is. To say that it is dead or dying perpetuates a false idea. With that said though, a boring music scene isn't really much better than a dead one anyway. Reducing the standard cover charge rate is a ludicrous proposition. It's just $2 more than your proposed $3, and most (if not all) people will pay $5, it is not a deterrent. If someone wants to see a show badly enough, they will pay it, and secondly, if they got all the way to the venue without knowing it was $5, that $5 will probably not prevent them from coming inside.


The real problem then lies in promotion, that is, getting larger numbers of people to show up (and like I already wrote i don't think the $5 makes that much of a difference). With a venue like the sound garden, it was easier. The place was large, it was comfortable, it was enjoyable. Also, they had a bar, so it drew a 21 and over crowd. (Not saying that you need a bar to have a show, but it helps draw older people). Venues need to get mainstream promotion though, that is, news papers, magazines (though, the surge did a pretty good job), and a slot on Myrtle Beach TV talking about the active night scene (those tourists watch it in the summer, it would really help I believe).


The venues need to appeal to people they wouldn't normally appeal to. Club Kryptonite (or however you spell it) draws a huge night club scene. But thats not just because people want to dance, it is because to go to a night club is the "cool" thing to do. Even people who don't like night clubs get dragged to them. This needs to become the predicament of our small venues (hopefully turned larger ones). This is how the MB music scene will grow. "fickle fans" matter now, but if you scale everything up, their impact will be significantly less. Effectively, The MBMS must become cooler. When people have nothing to do on a Friday night, we must make it so that this is the idea that pops into their head.


Yo espero que todo va a mejorar.

 
Posted by Pachón on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 3:50 AM
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The Sound Garden

 
I was not in the Music Scene long but I have taken a long look at it. To me, these are the problems.

1. What is missing from the crowd? Other musicians. Perfect example-Morrison Hotel: Excellent show, these guys practiced for a year and had their first show on a Thursday night so that local musicians can come see it. Hardly any showed. If you are not playing and you are going out then go to clubs that give you gigs and see other bands.

2. If the sound is shitty and the setting is shitty then to someone new to the scene- you are a shitty band. It's great when it is all friends getting together, who cares about the sound. You want to grow the scene, quality has to be addressed.

3. Two, three or four different shows at different places on the same night. Come on now.

4. Your up on stage, dress the freaking part, every show should be treated like some music executive is coming to see you.

5. Support other bands especially the out of town ones. I use to hate seeing an out of town band play and every one would be in the parking lot.

6. Stop playing MB more than once a month. Make your show an event. If people miss you this time, it may be a while before they see you again. The attitude becomes that if they miss you this time and can wait until next week or the following one to see you then something will always come up and it will always be "I'll go see them next week.
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7. If you get another Venue, rally around it and help it grow. I can prove to you that The Sound Garden broke even in February. It went from a nothing place in September and consistently grew every month in the off season. A venue is possible but it will take the music scene to make it happen.


In the old days, there were no guarantees. A band had to sell themselves. If they didn't bring in a crowd, they didn't get paid. What they would do is walk around in between sets and get peoples addresses. They would go to the clubs when they weren't playing just to get addresses. Then they would go to a printer and pay to print up flyers and then buy stamps to mail them out. It was a competition between bands to see who had the biggest crowds.

Now you can design stuff on your computer and email them out for free. In 18 months, I have only seen two bands collecting email addresses.

 
Posted by The Sound Garden on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 4:58 PM
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