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John Öberg



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Gender: Male
Status: In a Relationship
Age: 22
Sign: Gemini

City: Phoenix
State: Arizona
Country: US
Signup Date: 3/31/2005
Thursday, July 16, 2009 

Category: School, College, Greek
In case you haven't heard, I'm staying in Michigan.

I am currently (unintentionally) unemployed and taking this free time to choose a (bachelor) degree to pursue for the next 1-4 years. In an attempt to hear different perspectives, I figured I'd mention the degrees I'm considering. Maybe you guys will have helpful suggestions or opinions.

Please keep in mind I don't have a desire to get a skilled degree (like accounting or engineering or something). At the same time I don't want to get something too liberal arts-like (like political science, or even international studies) that is just too broad and saturated that won't get me some sort of non-dead-end job. Also, I'd love to be involved in some sort of activist organizations and/or non-profit organizations. Or even NGO's. Peace Corps/UNESCO/Volunteering abroad stuff, too.

I still think the "Nonprofit Leadership & Management" degree is my ideal degree,  but unfortunately that is currently out of the question.

My considerations...

"Bachelor of Science with an option in Community Development" (CMU @ University Center by MCC)

-I'd say this is probably the closest degree in Michigan when looking for something community-focused/making a difference-focused. The "option" I'd be choosing is "Public Administration". With the way CMU's semesters are set up along with how many credits they'll accept, I could be done with this degree in roughly a year and a half to two years. I'm just worried this degree is one of those that are too broad and are the equivalent to a "general studies" degree when it comes to trying to get an actual job.

"Bachelor in Public Administration" from UM-Flint
-I really don't even know what Public Administration is or if there are many jobs out there for a person with a degree like this. Well, I do know that it can land you a job with the government or non-profits, but thats as far as I know the extent of that. I'm mainly interested in it because they'll accept my (useless) Associate in Law Enforcement (Why did I get this) and apply it to a 2+2 program, which could speed up the time it takes to graduate.

"Bachelor in Spanish & International Studies" from UM-Flint.

-This degree is sweet because I'd become fluent in Spanish (one of my passions, once I get passed this degree-choosing business) and I'd study one of my favorite subjects-International Studies. Plus it really wouldn't take super long to graduate, probably as much as the CMU degree, maybe less. The main reason I don't want to pursue this degree is because (aside from learning Spanish), the degree is so broadly based that it would be of no help when applying for most jobs. I don't think it would be a good idea to get a degree in international studies when 99% of the jobs out there aren't really internationally-based and when I'm 30 or 35 or 50 (haha, I hope) and am done traveling the world and want to settle down, where am I going to get a job with this degree, ya know?

"Bachelor in Secondary Education majoring in Social Studies or Spanish and minoring in one of those two or History" from either Oakland University of Wayne State.

-I am considering going into education. I think I'd be a good teacher and teaching is something I've always been interested in. I always told myself I was just interested in it because I enjoyed being in school and never wanted to leave. At the same time, as much as I think I'd enjoy it, I don't know if I am passionate about it enough to spend the next 3 and a half to 4 years studying it like I would be at Wayne State, which is how long it would take. Wayne will only take 39 of my 104 credits and already a teaching degree is 20-30 more credits beyond the usual 120. I have an appointment at OU on Monday, but I assume it will be along the same lines, maybe a little shorter with their STEP program.

In my opinion, there are not enough resources out there to guide undecided college students as to what degrees to pursue. Sure there are counselors at MCC and stuff, but they're so busy that they're hardly any help. And there are not nearly enough reasons given for each degree to give a concrete feel for how the career will assist you in the post-college world.

So I look to you for any thoughts, opinions or suggestions. Thanks.

John Öberg
7-16-09
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kara
Kara judd

 
i believe at OU the education program is considered a 5-year program fyi. ive only heard good things about their program. i looked into it, but decided against it.


and hey i hear ya about there not being enough resources to help guide undecided college students. totally. story of my life. the counselors dont do shit. 


good luck! 

 
Posted by kara on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 3:14 AM
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Curtis
Curtis Adams

 
I agree that resources to help guide you seem pretty slim.  The only advice I have is just make sure it's something you know you'll enjoy.  Talk to some of the teachers you've had that you've really enjoyed and see if they have any good advice for you.

 
Posted by Curtis on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 3:45 AM
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Nichoas

 
Choice D.
I'm going into secondary ed for English (at OU, and the STEP program is 5 years because you have to take 24 more credits than a normal degree)

Change a kid's life.
Open up the youth's eyes to something more than they can see by themselves. It may not pay the best, but I feel like it could be the most rewarding job.

 
Posted by Nichoas on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 8:13 AM
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Mike Rajnicek
Mike Rajnicek

 
i would say to try and stay away from the teaching aspect of it solely because of what my mom just went through in the last few years. she had to go back to college for a master's program for teaching so she could get a job, and after all the hard work she barely found any teaching positions. she got hired and had a terrible time at the school for the few years she was there. she's still trying to find anywhere to teach but currently teaching jobs are super limited.

and i agree about lack of help in choosing a major that school's have. my advice as far as trying to figure out what to pursue is to keep an open ear when talking to people, see what they compliment you about, it's how i decided to pursue art. i noticed people telling me that they couldn't do what i could do, so i figured why not pursue the trait that is special to me. so search yourself for things along those lines and then see if a major falls into place.

also, take chances and make mistakes when it comes to employment. rather than trying careers i would like to do, i tried other opportunities and by doing so figured out what i don't like doing which is equally helpful

 
Posted by Mike Rajnicek on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 8:20 AM
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kara
Kara judd

 
oh yes, and teaching jobs in michigan are VERY limited. So you might wanna consider that as well!
 
Posted by kara on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:55 AM
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*Luvme*

 
Peace Corps would be sweet..... degrees... hum....

 
Posted by *Luvme* on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 4:25 PM
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audra
Audra Klein

 
OU should take all of your credits from MCC, I'm sure more than Wayne State would at least. We could take classes together! lol. And for teaching, the best majors (as in which areas you are more likely to get a job) besides spec. ed and math/science, are languages. So I think spanish would be a good major for you. Plus you can take a few extra classes and get certified to teach ESL...I think you would be really good at that!

I don't really know much about any of those degrees. I think in the end you have to go with what you have the most passion for. I can ask my dad for you though, he should be an academic advisor lol students go to him for advice more than they go to the mcc advisors.

 
Posted by audra on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 7:01 PM
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Kevin

 
You already love speaking Spanish, why not go into that? Once you become fluent you could probably go to Spanish-speaking countries and teach English, maybe talk to Rob from EE about that.

 
Posted by Kevin on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 8:39 PM
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audra
Audra Klein

 
So my dad suggested environmental science for you lol. Like you could work for the environmental protection agency or something lol. Cuz it's along the making a difference line, but you could actually find a job is what he's saying lol.
 
Posted by audra on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 5:07 PM
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Sack

 
well you've gotten hired by kroger...welcome to your career.

 
Posted by Sack on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 8:35 PM
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Thirteen Dead

 
its easier to kill yourself - 13 dead
 
Posted by Thirteen Dead on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 6:10 PM
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