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Bethany Wenner


Last Updated: 12/10/2009

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Gender: Female
Status: Single
Age: 19
Sign: Aries

City: Milwaukee
State: Wisconsin
Country: US
Signup Date: 11/13/2006
Saturday, September 26, 2009 

Category: Music
I don't watch much television or listen to the radio, so I have no idea about what's going on in the world of popular music right now up on the surface. I've dug myself a hole to live in and furnished it in only what I deem positive for my mental health. All I know of that's going on up there are a few things that are abhorrent enough to circulate back to me through the sources I rely on (I'm not gonna name names; that's unnecessary and beside my point).

I was just on YouTube revisiting the years of my mom's aggressive pop CDs when we moved into the townhouse after my dad's death, and a question struck me in the middle of Pink's "Family Portrait". Who are the female role models now in pop music? Is there anyone left up there demonstrating that music that makes you feel or think in some way doesn't have to come from an all male indie-pop group or acoustic solo artist? I feel like we're losing so many potential great intellects to mind erasing conditioning. I'm not a very sympathetic or altruistic person, but I like art, and art comes from people, so I've got to be concerned here at some point.

The last time I surfaced to check things out, for female figures, we were still stuck in the mindset of strong sexuality being linked with the strong individual. Women who knew they were adored by men and could use them were the stars of the show (faux feminist double standards, hooray). If you wanted something a little less sexual, you could listen to the acoustic or electro songs about if he leaves me I'll just die, or he left me and I'm just going to die, etc.. It seems like for a little while, though, we had a handful of icons who had a certain fancy to express themselves in notable ways time and again. Pink, for example, at least made an effort to do something expressive and different sandwiched between her standard stuff. I think for mass-produced pop music (which obviously can't be too enlightening as a rule), she went a good deal more than business-necessary over the ever lowering bar. That's cool enough in my book of low expectations.

My question is (to whoever reads my driveling, brain vomit here), who is doing this now? Is there anyone? Are we going backwards up there on the surface still? And I'm talking about the top of the charts pop music deal, like Christina Aguilera performing "Beautiful" (I say performing because she did not write the song), not the good things from respectable people that leak their way in. You gotta help me out, because I'm stuck down here. I threw away my latter to peek out on my own years ago out of disillusionment. I don't want to come up, just want a visual of the war-field. (;
Sixtyfold

 
Hon, there's a reason you're down there and we tend to not listen to the radio or watch MTV. :P That's basically my opinion, because every time I turn on the radio to find female or male 'role models' presenting any sort of intelligent thoughts through their medium, it's to complete and utter fail. The radio never was impressive and for the most part neither was MTV except at certain times of the night, like 120 minutes or MTV AMP, Alternative Nation maybe even. It's what you start to realize when you reach the age of 15-16-17 years old, it's what you know already. They want to package music as a product to sell, their job isn't to cultivate art, its to sell units, so that's what you get, a TV dinner in a case, on a plastic disc, ready to rot your mind instead of your intestines. Only occasionally can the worlds of art and 'pop/product' meet in an industry controlled by three companies, trying to make money, at any cost. People just don't in general have the time or patience to take out of their days to find anything better, so these corporations keep thriving on, that and the fact they prey originally on children who don't know any better at the time and aren't in general listening to the lyrics anyways and get hooked into listening to this music and continue on, because its what they're used to. Fuck the radio, I don't understand why anyone even listens to the radio anymore anyways unless at that exact point in time you have no other alternative, because your CD player is broken or your mp3 player is out of juice, etc. I could say lots more, but that's all I have right now. I suggest not putting your head out into the 'mainstream', because you're only going to get what they want to sell you anyways. The way you're doing it now is much better in general.

 
Posted by Sixtyfold on Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 5:49 PM
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Bethany
Bethany Wenner

 
I realize that, but I'm not hoping for anything substantial or obvious. Nothing like a feminist popstar (I really hate the word feminist because it is outdated, but you know I mean gender ambiguous and not anti-man), so much as just someone who makes music in an androgynous way. The subtle things are important, so I'm just wondering what figures are the current example for the current batch of minds-in-progress. I think the saddest part of it is that it's such a small thing, but it would generate such an important effect for people to see things like a minority who is racially ambiguous, or ambiguous as to their sexual orientation (to show that these things are such insignificant parts of who you are and that you don't have to be stuck in this boxed identity crisis). Erik Erikson theorized that social development played an enormous role in our establishing of identity, which I agree completely with. I think he pointed out pretty well that there is such a thing as a standard of necessary social health, and in my eyes this would include strong figures to learn feelings of respect for and show you that there is a moral standard of sorts to live up to.
 
I figure, knowing that people are emotional creatures, this creates a demand that the entertainment market wants to supply for, because they're such greedy fuckers there is no target audience they will not cater bullshit to. So this is a need they're gonna fill. So we do (or did when I last checked, which was years ago) get stuff out there that deals with crisis in human emotions instead of the general SEX SPEND MONEY SEX CONSUME SEX BUYING STUFF IS SEXY deal. Like break up songs and James Blunt or whatever. So, there is a small hole there to get through and still be a fairly honest musician inbetween selling your soul to commercial advertisement. It's mostly filled with a bunch of white guys though. I just want to know what's gotten through there in the past few years I've been absent, I guess. Not that it would be anything amazing or anything that I would want to be listening to. Just for research purposes.

But yeah, basically, my cynicism and lack of faith in my fellow human forces me to agree with you. That's why I'm down here in the first place. I'm sure things are more fucked up than they were when I left them.

 
Posted by Bethany on Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 6:33 PM
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