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Kenneth Deel - Demonologist (Catholic faith)

Kenneth Deel


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Age: 48
Sign: Scorpio

City: SPRINGFIELD
State: MISSOURI
Country: US
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Saturday, August 16, 2008 

Category: Dreams and the Supernatural

FRANKS BOX

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I am going to give me stamp on FRANKS BOX, and similar devices saying "Demonic"

Here is why.

 

History:

 

Frank Sumption is the supposed the inventor of the box, how it came to be alone sounds demonic. Are we to believe 'Aliens' or some other otherworldly beings gave him the instructions on how to build and use this device?

The first time I really heard about the box in detail was at the Chris Moon's 2007 Arkansas presentation (The first annual NWA Ghost Hunter Conference in Eureka Springs).

He said only one of the 30 chosen people can use the box.   Some "chosen" set of people, yes that is only about 30 in the world. This was March 2007.  Later that summer at the Stanley Hotel, the box announced that [another] was now one of the few who could use the box. (Yes i said the BOX annonced this)

So now the number was over 30.

I found that "Thirty" people seemed like a low number, in that it is really nothing new for a person with an attachment to simply detune any AM radio to a blank spot on the dial and hear voices appear on it.  Voices through a TV, Stereo equipment, even, as a truly 'Haunted' individual might experience some of these things.
So, the thought is why is there a need for this particular box when these 30 people probably are already 'haunted' in some way enough to get results with other household radio/audio electronics?

But this was on the idea that indeed only 30 could use it, and not anyone.

But lately, you don't hear of any such limitations, and many have built their own box or purchased one pre-built. The buzz from the Moon camp isn't spewing out that ONLY 30 can use the box, perhaps because now it has become profitable to sell the box, not just perform a demonstration.

The (supposed) operation:

The box is suppose to 'scan' radio broadcast frequencies, and pick out small samples, and build words from these fragmented portions of varies broadcasts. The end result is often garbled and not intelligible, and takes some imagination to hear it. Sort of like gazing into the clouds and seeing ani9mal shapes.

Some have hard answers to intimate questions, more clearly I will say, just that often I think maybe only 30 in the world could make sense of the garbled mess of so-called words coming through the device.

 

SCANNING BROADCAST:
Let's say this is in fact how it works and it is NOT simply a hype as to how the electronics really works. (I'll look at the schematics again, but my point here is NOT if the box works the way they say or not, it is about the moral issues of using the box.)

 

What the spirits whom communicate through the box will have to do to manipulate the electronics internally is this:

 

  • SCAN- They will have to tell the box where to randomly scan to, which broadcasts to sample from. In other words induce a control over an otherwise 'random' scan, therefore manipulating the internal electronics, in 'nudging' the scan over to specific radio frequency at just the right time.
  • Second, they will have to preconceive what is going to be said on what frequency, to best assemble an intelligible word.
  • Third, they will have to do all of this at lightening speed.

 

Now this is an Extraordinary feat, even for a Spirit, usually "extraordinary" = Demonic alone.  

 


OUIJA ANYONE??

For some reason people shy away from the OUIJA board, and are clinging to this BOX as though it is safe.   It doesn't take much to nudge an Ouija Board planchette/pointer. It isn't so complex.  In my opinion the BOX leans more to 100% demonic, where it is possible for the board to have a mix of different types spirits.

But the demonic is always looking for ways to get in. If will push its way passed any spirit to get a shot at you.

 

PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT:

You use the Ouija board, speculum mirror, or even stare into a snowy TV screen. EVENTUALLY you will start to se things, that others do not. You will he EVP (voices) through radio hash, your sensitivity training has opened you up.  But also made you venerable to demonic influence and oppression and worse.

The box is no exception, the more you use it the more it might be easier to understand what the sound is. But to others it would be garbled as the TV will still look blank and snowy. To onlookers. Just consider that.  I know of people use Ouija so much they don't even need to touch the planchete to have it move. You might think that is a good thing, but it is not. You are not simply getting better at it from practice.
They are solidifying their foothold with you!

This is not a video game…

 

THE MASQUEADE STILL APPLIES
I spoke before of the 'masquerade' the demonic can do, quite often portraying s childs spirit to pull on 0ones heart strings in manipulating the people it seeks to oppressed into opening door as they try to help the "poor lost little girls spirit, whom misses her mommy". And yes you psychic-mediums/sensitives, ALL 'Six' senses are fooled by these spirits… With the box I have already heard stories of one using the box talking with Thomas Edison and Nicola Tesla of all people. Remember a demonic can even know Tesla like to where green socks, or name his favorite Adult beverage. Again with the masquerade here folks. Don't be fooled!

CHRISTIANS TAKE NOTE!

Lastly, with all the indications pointing to this device and others like it as "DEMONIC", I will mention this lastly, as I was not merely basing my opinions on this biblical/Christian perspective. I made my point without mention BIBLE sources once.
But I'll need to remind you professed 'Christians', that it should be no surprise that I can find this box to be demonic.

For in the least, the Christian/Judeo faith, Necromancy is forbidden.

This is NOT necessarily ghost hunting, heck I have to get knee deep at time to investigate haunted houses, what I am referring is attempting to communicate with the spirits, by any means.  Using EVP , KII, or other devices trying to establish communication is forbidden by church teachings. LOOK IT UP.

 

HAUNTEDERIE PA!
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you are 100% CORRECT.
 
Posted by HAUNTEDERIE PA! on Saturday, August 16, 2008 - 5:53 PM
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Florida Paranormal Research, Inc.
Florida Paranormal Research

 
Well said Kenneth...

It goes by many names: The Ghost Box, Ghost Hack, Frank's Box, Mike's Box, Joe's Box, etc.....many people are building them now.

I have never used one of these devices. However, I have done extensive research and have discovered that they open up portals and/or attracts entities that you don't want around you. Anytime you try to summon the “other side,” you stand the chance of bringing something through the door...and once the doors are opened, and they (demons) have a foothold on you...it can be extremely difficult to get rid of!

I believe the Frank's Box is like using an Ouija Board on steroids!

Like I said above...it will open up portals (doors)....and most people don't know what they are dealing with when they play with these "objects."

If you summoned something(s) from the "other side," you will have an extremely difficult time removing them. It may be calm now, because it is trying to "trick" you. (It’s the oldest trick in the book! (Demonology 101)...but the longer it stays...the stronger it will get!

My advice.....STAY AWAY!
 
Posted by Florida Paranormal Research, Inc. on Saturday, August 16, 2008 - 9:59 PM
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Florida Paranormal Research, Inc.
Florida Paranormal Research

 
Well said Kenneth...

It goes by many names: The Ghost Box, Ghost Hack, Frank's Box, Mike's Box, Joe's Box, etc.....

I have never used one of these devices. However, I have done extensive research and have discovered they open up portals and/or attract entities that you don't want around you. Anytime you try to summon the “other side,” you stand the chance of bringing something through the door...and once the portals are opened, and they (demons) have a foothold on you...it can be extremely difficult to get rid of!

I believe the Frank's Box is like using an Ouija Board on steroids!

Like I said above...it will open up portals (doors)....and most people don't know what they are dealing with when they play with these "objects."

If you summoned something(s) from the "other side," you will have an extremely difficult time removing them. It may be calm now, because it is trying to "trick" you. (It’s the oldest trick in the book! (Demonology 101)...but the longer it stays...the stronger it will get!

My advice.....STAY AWAY!
 
Posted by Florida Paranormal Research, Inc. on Saturday, August 16, 2008 - 10:02 PM
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Mhhm,,I have to agree too Kenn,,good blog,,but just another of many thats already been thrown out there with the very same words. I hear and understand also what you are saying about it being possibly no more than an electronic Ouija board,,BUT,,just like the KII, pendulum,recorders, dowsing rods,,and even your so called psychic sensitives,,etc.,,these are all "TOOLS" in which are used to capture "PROOF" of the other side,,NOT necessarily using it as a communications device. And as you know,,every tool needs experimenting with in order to be able to say,,yes it works,,or no it doesn't,,trial and error,,coincidence,,or fact,,

To me,,its all about the intentions of the individual in the first place who picks up any such tool,,before you can claim it to be necromancy my friend. You certainly wouldn't claim a carpenter picking up a cordless drill as being a murderer now would you?? BUT,,his intention picking up that cordless drill "could" be for that very reason,,see what I'm trying to say here?? I agree 100% with you my friend,,it definitely has its potential as being used for the wrong reasons,,as well as misleading to the naive if they have no clues as to what they are getting themselves into,,but again,,its all on the intentions of the individual who picks it up,,

I have seen with my very own eyes on SEVERAL occasions,,the TTTD(Telephone To The Dead) and Chris Moon accomplish great things,,bringing closure to painful situation such as working with the law on missing persons cases,,murders,,as well as helping people who need closure with personal situations as well. My point for even posting to this, because I swore to myself I wouldn't to any more because of the complete ignorance, one way minded,,thinking of most people out there,, is ONLY because I consider you a good friend,,I stand firm on my beliefs on the TTTD,,its on 100% the intention of the individual that uses it,,as well as having the knowledge to know the differences of what or who you are listening coming through,,

That right there is what I believe was meant in the first place by only the select 30 who would be able to use it,,no one ever said it wouldn't work for anyone else,,its about having the discernment of knowing exactly WHAT/WHO you are actually dealing with. So there you have my two cents on it all,,lol,,

Now, you kind of got me curious,,you yourself are an investigator too,,so if you don't use any of the tools investigators use such as recorders,,KII,,etc,,what actually do you use to capture your evidence then?? Just a camera?? Could that be considered as necromancy too?? Seeing the intention behind the pictures is to try and capture evidence of the spirits?? PROOF of their existence?? See what I'm trying to get across about intention on the individual themselves??

All in all,,I give your blog big kudo's Ken,,as a forewarning to those who have no clue when it comes to Frank's Box and the TTTD. For the rest though,,I would have to say,,do your own research on all of these devises before you take on someone elses opinion of what exactly these devises are or what they can do ;o)

Love~N~Blessings to you my friend <3
 
Posted by on Saturday, August 16, 2008 - 10:07 PM
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reap sow

 
I like Frank, I don't think the box works but I find Frank likable. He believes in what he is doing and if he chooses to pursue seeking answers through the box so be it. he is not harming anyone and none of us knows for sure all the answers.
Mr Moon is quite another story. Mr Moon is irresponsible and seems to be a slave to his ego. He makes statements that are presented in a fashion as to make people believe they are factual. Chris Moon has practically proclaimed himself some kind of messiah. He wants people to believe he is in the forefront when it comes to contacting the spirit world. I don't know how he came to such a conclusion but if Chris Moon has been chosen for any type of 'holy mission' or as the 'chosen delegate' to the spirit world then we have a much larger problem than some people hearing their grandma tell of her secret recipe for cookies 10 years after she has passed.
He has a disclaimer posted regarding the box and its use yet he does not behave as if he knows it exists. I wonder which it is Chris, for entertainment only or the answer everyone has been searching for in a little broken radio.
The way chris behaves is nothing short of moronic. He thinks he stands a little higher than his critics because he has no negative remarks. He seems unable to realize that his bullshit claims and victimization of those too weak-minded or grief-stricken to make intelligent reasoned choices are far more insulting and negative than the statements made by people who use common sense and apply it to the subject of the box.
I have reached the point where I have less than zero respect for Chris Moon, he is in my opinion one of the most self centered and foolish people I have ever encountered, in real life or in a work of fiction.
Chris Moon tarnishes the reputation of countless others by his lame claims and pathetic 'good soul' act. I can only hope for his sake that he is correct or at least believes so in his mind because the day will come when he will be answerable for what he has said and done to people.
I hope the popularity is worth the price.
And let's say that I am the fool and the box really does work. How can we know that the people who are using it are reaching the spirits of loved ones and friends? Isn't Mr moon being a little too trusting? Exactly the type of behavior I would expect from someone with his limited ability to acknowledge the obvious but that does not do anyone much good should it be the case does it?
In conclusion let me say that I can only feel embarrassment and pity for Chris Moon along with an overwhelming feeling of disgust and annoyance.
good blog Ken (except the stuff about Demons, that was scary, almost as scary as the parts about religion)
 
Posted by reap sow on Sunday, August 17, 2008 - 10:09 AM
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Paul "Wild Turkey" Udouj
Paul Udouj

 
You are right and if anyone goes to a box that scans the airways for loose pieces is going to get a loose message. Their intentions are flawed from the started no matter what the box or anyother piece of machinery spews out.

Good blog.
 
Posted by Paul "Wild Turkey" Udouj on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 7:03 PM
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Kenneth Deel - Demonologist (Catholic faith)
Kenneth Deel

 
The push button on the K-2 I though was odd immediately. Thinking a relaxed thumb can give spikes.
What my thought on Frank box is *IF* it works as they say, it is quite extraordinary even for a would be spirit to manipulate.
I don't expect "Good" spirits to communicate through it in other words. In these cases a demon or one of their minions (human spirits) would be the ones behind it.
 
Posted by Kenneth Deel - Demonologist (Catholic faith) on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 4:33 AM
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The Society for Paranormal Intervention

 
I don't respect Chris Moon, especially after he tried auctioning "package" sessions on ebay for hundreds ($600+).

 
Posted by The Society for Paranormal Intervention on Monday, March 02, 2009 - 2:40 PM
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