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Arrington de Dionyso



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April 22, 2007 - Sunday 
so- your question was this-
What place, if any, does the music and culture of the nomads of Tuva have in the west? How has it influenced your own music? etc etc.

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I think I have gone through several phases in my understanding of these kinds of questions in my process over the years-

Whereas at one time I may have been, I am no longer so interested in making any music that "sounds" like Tuvan music. I am not Tuvan and never will be. I may or may not ever have the opportunity to visit, and if I do it would only be as a guest- so, what exactly does my music have in common with music in Tuva?

Throatsinging and the awareness its practice brings of the very intentional utilization of harmonics and timbre in sound are extrememy important to me and in my musical expression. By all accounts, throatsinging does impart or is at least conducive to encouraging a broader awareness of oneself as a part of the natural world around oneself. It may at certain times in history been a much more widespread practice in the world of musical expression and perhaps we see it residually in certains types of shamanic musics throughout Asia and Africa- Howling Wolf or Blind Willie Johnson, anyone?

There is a very strong tendency in the more priviledged quarters of the Western world to romanticize or idealize the supposedly idyllic situations of the Noble Savages all about the world- primitive conditions in culture and economy somehow signify an advanced form of ancient shamanic wisdom. I suspect this tendency to be very dangerous, not only does it put non-Western peoples up on a very high pedestal; it also serves to invalidate the realities of what is really going on around the world and the urgency with which we must immediately address the issues now confronting us as a human, not a tribal, species.

The practice of throatsinging has been an enormous springboard for me in such a multitude of ways I would not know where to begin- it is not enough for me to imitate recordings of Tuvan singers or judge my output solely upon imagined Tuvan aesthetics- I would like to create a musical expression that is completely real and honest for me myself in the age I live in, perhaps there is enormous potential for healing and spiritual communication to be found in this new discovery of forgotten musical idioms? I don't really know for sure, I just try to follow where my spirit guides me and see what happens next.
BlakK Sweat

 
<P>---it also serves to invalidate the realities of what is really going on around the world and the urgency with which we must immediately address the issues now confronting us as a human, not a tribal, species.---</P><P>This idea is shortsighted, but can you explain your perception here... Is this statment related to the facets of the "shamanic" nature of the music, or, as i suspect other "realities" which would make us all in jeopardy?
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Posted by BlakK Sweat on May 23, 2007 - Wednesday - 7:10 PM
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Arrington de Dionyso

 
I don't see what is short-sighted, but of course my glasses are tied together by rubber bands.
I was just trying to say in as many words that I don't think it serves anybody to romaniticize other cultures that seem "exotic" or whatever you want to call it. I am wary of "spiritual materialism", maybe to a fault. We all have access to the experience of imminence, or transendence, even within the experience of day to day reality.

Many people today in highly advanced, technology-driven societies find themselves deeply involved in "bringing to light" various kinds of ancient knowledge or spiritual practice. There are many, many reasons why one should exercise caution when, uh, "extracting" such knowledge from exoticized sources. Speaking personally, as someone who has all my life been very interesting in learning about other cultures in all times and places of the world, I learn alot about myself when I question my very interest in the experience of "foreigness"- i.e. what is it in my own culture I might be trying to escape from?
 
Posted by Arrington de Dionyso on May 24, 2007 - Thursday - 12:18 AM
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Morgan
morgan olson

 
that is a really good view of how to explain using a root music as a spring board into something larger than the context it came from. i enjoy where you are going with it and and forget the nay sayers that are over thinking it i love it rock on and be well
 
Posted by Morgan on December 15, 2008 - Monday - 12:15 AM
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gary

 
oh, i dont know about all this i just want to learn it for musical purposes. and what ever else i might feel when im singing. after a while i seem to get into a meditative state. after singing all day or however long my mind just clears and i feel .. i dont know. im not a religous person i dont meditate or pray or anything but playing music is just very ...... i dont know i cant describe it. ive just recently started singing and find thatits easier to zone out doing that than say drums. well at least for me. i just feel that music is universal. heck more than that. multiversal. omniversal even.
i guess i just want to say thank you Arrington.
you make some of my favorite music.
i wish i could have seen you when you came through Arizona.
next time.
_gary

 
Posted by gary on October 29, 2009 - Thursday - 1:45 AM
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