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Thursday, March 15, 2007 
Kevin - on the unofficial Dexys book.

I really enjoyed doing a 3 night stint at BB6Music a few weeks ago. Great radio station and people, totally music driven.

One negative experience was on coming out after the 3rd programme, a guy came up to me and asked me to sign something. No problem, I thought. He passed me a book on Dexys and made a comment on it. I'd obviously heard about the book but hadn't read it as a matter of principle. I said to him; "Don't know mate, ive never read it and don't intend to" He said; "Oh, but you wrote the foreword to it" and passed it to me, and there in within the foreword, in the first few pages, was quote a from me.

Like I said, I haven't read the book and I don't intend to. I cant take seriously a book about Dexys that didn't interview myself, Jim Paterson, Kevin Archer, Helen O Hara or Billy Adams. If someone I meet mentions it to me, I immediately say "Don't tell me anything about it, I don't wanna know". And I don't, so please don't write anything about it here. I don't wanna be upset by it. And in case the assertion is made that I was offered the opportunity to be interviewed, yes I was, its true, but far too late to give it serious consideration.

I was approached a few short weeks before the book was to be delivered for printing. The bulk of the book had been written by the time I was approached. I was told that previous efforts had been made to contact me, but that I was 'hard to reach'. That's not true. It's easy to find a way to some sort of representative of any artist, including via their label (or ex-label in my case) EMI, which is how I was finally contacted by the writer.

I pondered the request for an interview for a few days and took advice, then decided not to get involved. The general opinion from those I trust, was that by giving an interview, I would lend the book credibility. So I didn't. But it pains me to know that at least one person thought I had been involved with it. Still, that's life, as the great Esher once said. :}
St John

 

“I don't think anyone should write their autobiography until after they're dead.” Samuel Goldwyn


 
Posted by St John on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 10:21 PM
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lucy

 
Include me out.
 
Posted by lucy on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 2:20 AM
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Walkingstick
Walkingstick Mountain

 
Esher. Wasn't he a D.J.or something?
 
Posted by Walkingstick on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 10:53 PM
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North by NorthEast Comedy

 
I didn't know about it and on your request wont read it. Looking forward to your book though Kev. The right situation always comes to the surface in the end mate. It's what we call Karma.
 
Posted by North by NorthEast Comedy on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 1:23 AM
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glenn

 
don't worry Kev,
just be true, i believe in your soul.

(and if it still worries ya, make a song about it, do what you do best and the rest will take care of itself)

llap
^.^/,,,



 
Posted by glenn on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 10:27 AM
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Giovanni

 

I know it may not mean much, but that's the beauty of  the blogs you can use here.

Years back, any thoughts or frustrations like this may have needed a full-page redress printed in a music magazine. As you of course would know. And even then there was no garantee the intended viewer would have seen it that 'week' and the message could be lost. It would have cost money too, money you shouldn't in principle even have to spend.

But now I feel anyone who has bought this book already, will surely somehow [as long as they have a computer] know of your Myspace too ..because by virtue of buying it at all, they're probably admire you enough already to have wanted to check out your page?

So with luck, I think any purchaser's will get to know your thoughts clearly just through the blog. It's there for ever, that's pretty useful. Even in a year.... Shilpa will still be 'classist' on Jan 18th 2007 ;)

Legally though, there must be something you can do if you wanted to, there must be? I know it's the principle that may bother you more, but you may have a small claims here at least!? But it's one of those things you weigh up yourself, but I know I'd hate it. It's fraud basically when it's without permission. False advertising... and they will rather give you a cut and let it go than fight a point they know they can't prove.

I know people who have let things like this go because they know there's only 24 hours in a day. They want to be creative to there next project, not bogged down in legal things which stiffle them practically. Ok, I see I've gone waaay off track, because I understand that's not what the blog was about.

I just wanted to say by writting blog statements like this, I trust the purchases will get to know about the book they bought in time, if not today, then tommorrow... and that I hope will be, a comfort to know. And I'll tell 'em for ya! ;)

Keep Creavity

Peace, Gio


 
Posted by Giovanni on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 10:58 AM
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Blogs and comments about a book you never read! Common!! Despite missing the big interviews, it was a good book. It's The best Dexys Midnight Runners book ever written!! (So far.)
 
Posted by on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 2:26 PM
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Giovanni

 
Are you the author? ;)
 
Posted by Giovanni on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 1:13 AM
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Crannie
stuart cranston

 

Well I have read the book and lets be fair, Richard White who wrote it, is (as far as I know) the only person to do so yet. So lets not criticise him for it.

I also spoke to Richard on a few occasions and he is clearly a fan.

 

And he was kind enough to give me a mention in the book so he has been put in my will!!

 

I suggest people read it before having a go though.

 

And as my old Mucker John says up there, perhaps one day we will find out why Paul Gormans "official" book got pulled at the last minute...

 

As you were!


 
Posted by Crannie on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 11:22 AM
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Giovanni

 

Hi Crannie:).. I wasn't trying to have a geniune pop at anyone [especially not the geniune writer that's for sure] and that's why I put the wink afterwards afterwards. So it didn't look serious. I see some people on here actually know the people involved so things I see will seem more personal to them. I don't so it's was just about the anominity of the poster at the time they posted and they having just Tom and no photo at the time :).. it was too tempting not to say something. No offence to anyone, the guy who wrote it, Hugz and especially you Crannie.

Peace, and as we were :)

Ps:hasn't anyone one taken that bottle off you yet mate? ;)


 
Posted by Giovanni on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 1:18 PM
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Crannie
stuart cranston

 
don't worry mate it wasn't a pop at you. I probably shouldn't have replied to you but to others! And you get the bottle over my dead body!! ;-)
 
Posted by Crannie on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 4:30 PM
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KK

 
True words, never judge a book by its cover, but in this case we are judging a book without reading it! We are all adults and should be able to make our minds up on what has been written.
What ever the contents(I haven't read it, but I think I should) it won't affect my view of Dexys or Kevin, I have got this far and I haven't been defeated by the detractors out there!
 
Posted by KK on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 5:38 PM
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Eddie Cooney

 

I've read the book and reviewed it. It's a good book and it makes no claims that Kevin Rowland is involved. If people don't read the book properly and form an inaccurate opinion of who is involved then that's their problem not the author's.

As Crannie points out Richard White is a fan. A big-hearted, good guy fan who tried to tell the story as best he could. As far as I can see any criticism of him is mean spirited. His book is a labour of love and anyone who sees fit to criticise a labour of love needs to look deep into their own hearts to examine their motives.

He interviewed all of those who said yes and made it as credible as possible in the circumstances. Because some people said no to him he made a painstaking trawl of the music press and included a number of historical quotes to fill in the gaps. This is a weakness and I pointed it out in my review but Richard White is no fool; he knows how good his book is. I'm sure he will be as pleased as the next fan when his effort is bettered. There is no doubt it would have been a better book had more people said yes.

The facts of the matter are -

There are no other Dexys books. Official or otherwise. Time passes and nothing is completed. Only Richard White got up off his arse and did something about it. His effort is an honest one and honesty is always credible.


 
Posted by Eddie Cooney on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 3:38 PM
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We have also posted a blog on the subject.
 
Posted by on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 7:43 PM
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Stevo

 

Never read a book not from the horses mouth ! everyones a fan but in music # the music does the talking not a book let the music talk as Kevin and Dexys intended it to do !!


 
Posted by Stevo on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 8:04 PM
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Gracey - Gardener of Love (Adam for short)
Adam Grace

 
I've read the book and have no problems with it.

It is what it is.

It was a good read and brought back some great memories, but there was nothing really new there to upset the applecart.

I'm sure a book written by Kevin will be even more fascinating  and I can't wait for it.

Let everyone make their own decisions. We are all adults here and have freedom of choice.

Adam
Brother Grace  
 
Posted by Gracey - Gardener of Love (Adam for short) on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 6:41 PM
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robert

 

My only thoughts on this subject are not personal or defensive ,quite the oposite in fact ,when i recall the amount of wonderful music i discovered purely from reading magazines and books ,this would include the likes of Ennio Morricone in a Smiths interview and Marvin Gaye in a Jam article ,these are just two examples of my curiousity being aroused before id heard any music ,the point im making is that anybody who reads this book or even browses through it could also have their curiosity aroused ,this can not be a bad thing  no sir ,like the song says Kevin ,"millions never will",but he was talking about something competely different ,but if one person reads this book then buys a record on the strength of that ,then you are a lucky man ,but im sure you already know that ,now please hurry up and get that record out.     Love and Respect  RW

 

 


 
Posted by robert on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 9:55 PM
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Not to drag this out - and it seems to have veered into a public dialogue way off the point of Kevin's heartfelt and interesting blog - let's correct a few assumptions, misguided views and speculation.


1. The reason the book he and I worked on didn't come out is simple. It wasn't right, the time wasn't right and it became clear during the process that the only man who can tell the story is Kevin himself. Which he will, in fine style. Just be patient.

2. We worked very hard if you don't mind, and lots of people - everyone of significance - gave of their time, generously and honestly, so to deride us as having not gotten "off our arses" is derogatory.

3. Having published six books in - or around - this area of popular culture, I don't think a book is worth writing if you do not include direct input from the central characters. A book about Dexys certainly isn't worth reading without the participation of KR let alone JP, KA, HO'H and BA. How could it be?

4. To include a quote from Kevin to infer that he has in some way given his imprimatur is egregious and unprofessional. The publisher ought to be ashamed of themselves.

5. I politely contacted the author direct to ask him about the book prior to publication. He didn't even do me the courtesy of acknowledging my emails.

PG
 
Posted by on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 3:36 PM
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FatBoy

 
Good on you - nuff said
 
Posted by FatBoy on Saturday, March 31, 2007 - 9:26 PM
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Eddie Cooney

 

But it isn't 'nuff said' at all. Mr Gorman's post is argument at best and argument by its very nature requires a reply. The introduction to Richard White's book in no way infers Kevin Rowland has given his approval to the work. The quote is in italics and dated 1993. Richard's introduction, dated 2005, quite clearly states Kevin Rowland has not contributed. The words are in black on a white page and only inches from the quote. Anybody who argues anything other than actual content of the introduction has either not read the book or wants to discredit it for reasons I cannot fathom...:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

I'm sorry others have taken my reference to Richard White's arse as derogatory but I meant no offence or hostility. I meant only to illustrate a truth. His effort has been the only one that has produced. I and many others are acutely aware that others have made efforts to write a book but so far there is no end result. How many times have Dexys fans been told to be patient? I'm 47 this year and you know what?... This is a mortal life. Still no book.

To say that Richard White is 'egregious and unprofessional' (only another way of calling him an arse) is actually derogatory, hostile and personal. Richard White is no demon author. He tells no lies. There is no titillating rubbish in the book. A stab in the dark but I bet he's made little or no money. He's just a fan who had a go and beat everyone else to the bookshelf. At best he infers (not actually says) 'go on then, if you're hard enough do better than that,' but nobody has yet.

Should the publisher be ashamed? Of course not. They present a fan's perspective and whoever does or does not contribute, a fan's perspective is still valid. I would be delighted to buy and read an official book. So would Richard White, I'm sure. Until then I applaud the only effort that has pride of place on my bookshelf. Go on then, if you're hard enough, write another and take my attention away from it.
 
Posted by Eddie Cooney on Saturday, March 31, 2007 - 11:53 PM
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Crannie
stuart cranston

 

better frame this one Eddie. But agree totally with your post.

 

I am assuming many of the people above never read biographys which as their title would suggest are not written by the "subject" Heaven help us if anyone were to publish a Biog of Jesus Christ, chances are it would make an interesting read. Trouble is not many of those involved would have much input!

 

But as I always say, hey ho!!


 
Posted by Crannie on Monday, April 02, 2007 - 5:52 PM
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DrPB

 

Eddie

A well articulated reply. I too found it strange that Richard White was accused of giving the impression that Kevin Rowland had cooperated with the book. This is certainly not my impression from reading the book in 2005 and re-reading the sleeve and introduction yesterday. In fact, he states very clearly on page 3 that Kevin - and the other main players - did not take part. Although I've posted my own criticisms of the book, I've also stated that Richard White should be applauded for his effort in putting the book together. One thing I would say though is that at times Richard is a little careless with quotes from interviews and I think this is where the issue of inference arsies on page 1. To the less-than-obsessive fan that quote could give the impression that the author has interviewed Kevin for the book, when 'we' know it's lifted from a pop magazine interview.

Best wishes

Phil


 
Posted by DrPB on Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 6:33 PM
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Anthony Heath
Tony Heath

 

Interesting Blog, to say the least. There’s a comedy sketch programme called (I believe) ‘TittyBangBang’ ; one of the sketches is of a maid, in a stately type home, whom, whilst visitors pass by, does outlandish things to be noticed whilst at the same time says  “oh no, no, don’t look at me please, I’m shy”.

The reason I mention it, is because this Blog brings that sketch to mind. On one hand you are saying that you have no interest in the book, wouldn’t read it, don’t want to read it, would become upset by the mention of the book, don’t even want people to write about the book on here. Yet on the other hand you are that uninterested and upset by the thought of the book, that you publish a Blog on it knowing that it will be commented on and written about. I just find this strange, as I’ve always thought that one of the reasons behind weblogs was to invoke a response about the subject at hand.

Obviously it would be nice to read a book written by your good self, but in the absence of such a book we are left with Richard Whites’ offering; a guy who is not just a fan, but a fan who put is time, work, effort, and sweat where is mouth is, got of his backside and produce the goods. That’s something you haven’t done, maybe you should think about that before you criticise his efforts.

My comments are not made to annoy you, or anyone else for that matter; they are just my ‘opinion’ and thoughts, which will no doubt be deleted. It just pisses me off that people who don’t or wont, criticise those that do and will.

..[if !supportEmptyParas]-->Cheers
..[endif]-->


 
Posted by Anthony Heath on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 12:30 PM
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mary cigarettes

 
oh lighten up kevin..does it really matter?...it's just a bleddy book...why have such an overheated sense of self importance...be happy someone writes a book at all .
 
Posted by mary cigarettes on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 11:47 PM
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Eddie Cooney

 
I was just thinking... I'm 48 this year and still no book.
 
Posted by Eddie Cooney on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 11:46 PM
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Eddie Cooney

 
Oh well, 49 next year... and guess what?
 
Posted by Eddie Cooney on Monday, September 22, 2008 - 9:30 PM
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