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Bryan Carro


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Gender: Male
Status: In a Relationship
Age: 19
Sign: Virgo

City: HIALEAH
State: FLORIDA
Country: US
Signup Date: 4/17/2005

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January 26, 2009 - Monday 

Current mood:  happy
Category: News and Politics



Lately, I have been working with my dad in lieu of a real job (not to say it isn't hard work- its just weird to be employed by your father). He loves talk radio. Conservative talk radio. So, suffice to say, I've heard a LOT of Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and Schnitt over the last couple of weeks.

A topic that seems to come up continuously on these programs is torture. Namely, the torture of detainees in Gitmo (the detention facility in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba where suspected terrorists are being held). Now, being a program run by (possibly radical) right-wing conservatives, any objection to torture is shot down by "You're unAmerican!" or "Crazy liberal!". My issue doesn't so much lie with the provincial pundits, but with the callers to these shows.

There are a huge number of callers claiming that America should "kill the bastards", or that they "deserve it". Some even go so far as to say "We're being too nice to them". The sheer barbarism and apparent bloodlust of these people is appalling. 

America was started by a band of rebels who drafted the United States Declaration of Independence. The opening line of said document contained the immortalized phrase:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator certain unalienable rights..."

This philosophy doesn't seem to ring true in America today. It is the only country to legalize and endorse torture. Rush Limbaugh stated on his program (verbatum) "Whats the big deal with torture? So we stick a water hose in these guy's noses! So what?!". Limbaugh is referencing waterboarding. This act, which is "no big deal" is described by Wikipedia (the omniscient encyclopedia of errthang) as follows (I encourage you to research what it highlighted):

[Waterboarding is a form of torture consisting of immobilizing the victim on his or her back with the head inclined downwards, and then pouring water over the face and into the
breathing passages. By forced suffocation and inhalation of water the subject experiences drowning and is caused to believe they are about to die. It is considered a form of torture by legal experts, politicians, war veterans, intelligence officials, military judges,and human rights organizations. As early as the Spanish Inquisition it was used for interrogation purposes, to punish and intimidate, and to force confessions.
In contrast to submerging the head face-forward in water, waterboarding precipitates a gag reflex almost immediately. The technique does not inevitably or in all cases cause lasting physical damage. It can cause extreme pain, dry drowning, damage to lungs, brain damageoxygen deprivation, other physical injuries including broken bones due to struggling against restraints, lasting psychological damage or, ultimately, death. Adverse physical consequences can start manifesting months after the event; psychological effects can last for years.] from

Now, please don't get me wrong. I fully support the government giving these detainees a trial, and sentencing them (if need be). Even if that sentence is death. There are crimes that are heinous enough to warrant death, and the attacks on our coutnry easily fall into that category.
But the United States cannot parade itself around with a tongue that speaks comforting words of "justice and liberty" and in the same sentence spits curses of "torture and hate".




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TwiGGy

 
Well said! 100% agree.

 
Posted by TwiGGy on January 26, 2009 - Monday - 2:58 PM
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Mar10

 
Only in fuckin' America is torture an issue! EVERY governments has and continues to use torture as a means of information gathering.. but Americans want to know everything about everything. Then when they find something they don't like they bitch and moan. Torture is a stupid way to get informants to confess.. shit, they'd say what you want to hear so you'd stop... but it has worked enough, right? I mean, we still use it after hundreds of years don't we?? I'm not supporting it..because I'm certainly not allowed to do it according to the Geneva Convention.. but Americans need to realize that torture has been used for centuries and guess what? Even if we make it illegal it's still going to happen. Some people have powers that bypass federal laws for national security. But I agree with what you're saying, B-Dawg. "...The United States cannot parade itself around with a tongue that speaks comforting words of "justice and liberty" and in the same sentence spits curses of "torture and hate".

 
Posted by Mar10 on January 26, 2009 - Monday - 2:58 PM
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Jordan

 
I agree.
the US can't "the United States cannot parade itself around with a tongue that speaks comforting words of "justice and liberty" and in the same sentence spits curses of "torture and hate"

torture and abortion

same deal.
we trample over the same rights we allegedly run to protect

 
Posted by Jordan on January 26, 2009 - Monday - 8:41 PM
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roselind

 
Infinite kudos for you. Extremely well said. It's my turn to feel a twinge of jealousy.

 
Posted by roselind on January 27, 2009 - Tuesday - 12:57 AM
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Allenson

 
Sometimes I just want to punch you in the face. You need a fucking reality check here Bryan. I don't think we should torture anyone for the sake of punishing (not all the time, at least. I have a feeling that a majority of torture as well does not involve forcing confessions) but when you catch one of these fuckers and you have a feeling the guy has shit he's not telling you, then fuck him and rip his nails out with pliers. You can't come up with the "America stands for something" bullshit and can't say that hypocrisy is wrong. People asked for security, and that's what they're getting. They didn't say "you can do it like this, but not like that." They asked for the job to get done, and it's getting done. No one should give a shit how except for the mothers of the assholes that are in Guantanamo right now. There are some situations where "whatever works" supercedes everything else. I only bother replying to you cause you're Carro's little brother, and I know you're not a retard so I get mad when you're being one.


I'll be over at your house within the next few days to go further in depth why we should carve designs into people's eyes with X-acto knives and blow up the middle east, including Israel.

 
Posted by Allenson on January 27, 2009 - Tuesday - 2:43 PM
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Bryan
Bryan Carro

 
Hah hah. Alright princess. Looking forward to it.

 
Posted by Bryan on January 27, 2009 - Tuesday - 2:44 PM
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